Why did DISNEY Give up on Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser?

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Жыл бұрын

Disney announced yesterday that they are going to close the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser. This was quite a shock to me, not that they were closing it, but that they were giving up so easily. But I think I know why, as well as a real reason why it failed. PLUS, we'll talk a bit about the also canceled Lake Nona project in Florida.
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@TheREALStampey Жыл бұрын

The Galactic Star cruiser should have been a dinner show experience similar to Medieval times. That would have put it in the price point if a lot more guests, and made it more accessible.

@perceivedvelocity9914 Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking

@AStageForTheKingdom Жыл бұрын

Ironically, Galaxy's Edge was originally supposed to have a dinner show restaurant, but it got cut for budget reasons, along with the third ride and a lot of the characters and interactivity.

@shadowlessxpan Жыл бұрын

Disney unknowingly started competing with themselves when they built Star cruiser. The price point made families choose whether they wanted to spend a week at Disney World or a weekend at Star Cruiser. Wanting to do both in the same vacation would double your vacation costs. Disney forgot who their fan base is, and created an experience that was out of reach for most Disney fans.

@AStageForTheKingdom Жыл бұрын

Good point! If they were smart, they would have built this somewhere like Texas where there isn’t currently a Disney themed experience, and people want to be indoors anyway due to the heat.

@BAGOMS Жыл бұрын

i pointed this out to my wife, we could go to the GSC for 3 days or we could go to Disney land for like 15 days, which one sounds like a better use of money

@tim.kaiser_aka_timmaay Жыл бұрын

Truth.

@lucash5446 Жыл бұрын

Great point. The vast majority of families will choose WDW over the star cruiser.

@pcollins1000 Жыл бұрын

They haven’t forgotten who their fan base is, they despise us and think (thought) we could be replaced by the very wealthy.

@13LadyRedBug Жыл бұрын

It was priced for the wealthy and not for the majority of the population.

@agentmaine8126 Жыл бұрын

The Wealthy would rather go to Monaco over a Large Indoor Warehouse hotel.

@QuincyDisneyVegan Жыл бұрын

@@agentmaine8126I know allot of wealthy people that spend $6k frequently at casinos (some of which look like warehouses), and some never leave home and spend it on the stock market! My point is, if people have the money to spend it, they will on anything anywhere or joyfully give it to anyone wherever. There's no limit to how wealthy people will spend their money, and yes, Galactic Starcruiser was aimed for those people

@harmonvlog Жыл бұрын

I'm not wealthy and we went. Actually, going a second time.

@agentmaine8126 Жыл бұрын

@@harmonvlog clearly you didn't make them enough revenue to keep it open. You went twice but they wanted Daily attendence plus spending, my friend went and he said it was like just being locked up Ina. Warehouse with cool rooms but not all that fun after a while

@alucard2010 Жыл бұрын

@@agentmaine8126 define wealthy!!

@mindyschocolate Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t only the price, it was the fact that it was some random characters, most we didn’t know. That theme could have belonged to any sci-fi movie. It just didn’t scream the Star Wars we’re all familiar with.

@LanceMiller87 Жыл бұрын

I think that pretty much sums up most of the Disney-era Star Wars... it just doesn't feel "familiar." The Resistance vs. First Order scenario was probably the biggest mistake Disney has made with Star Wars. It doesn't feel like Star Wars, it feels like a big-budget rip-off with the Star Wars name...

@JaneDoe-gp7so Жыл бұрын

I agree with this. We had an amazing time, so much fun, and were planning to go back, but I was disappointed in the lack of true connection to the storyline. I also felt that they should have just made it a little easier/more transparent about what you had to do to get invited to the secret events. Instead of forcing so many awkward interactions with cast members, just say, “here are the potential assignments you can complete; you’ll find them on your app. The more tasks you complete, the more events you’ll see,” for example. I figured that out quickly, but other family members were frustrated that they weren’t getting invited to all of the events.

@braxxian Жыл бұрын

If the cruise to you to a reconstruction Luke's old homestead of Tatooine and say cloud city or Echo base from Empire now that would be worth paying for. But the sequel setting with sequel characters?. Yea no thanks.

@naderzein2435 Жыл бұрын

Very true. The first few ads made the place look very bad, to the point Disney actually pulled down the first ad. Plus the wealthy tend to be older which means less likely to be interested in the sequel era.

@patriciaa65 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate your honest thoughts

@Jessie-ow7pw Жыл бұрын

The price was insane for the average person. Despite them hosting sooooo many influencers to try and push it and hype it up. In fact that was a huge turn off. I feel like everyone knew this was going to happen. So expensive and kinda lame for the price.

@3drage Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. I remember when folks on social media caught wind of the price tag for a 2-night stay. I'm a die hard Star Wars fan, but can think of about 500 better ways to spend that kind of money.

@dustyfedora Жыл бұрын

Like a full set of Mandalorian armor.

@BryanW. Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@benderrodriguez2996 Жыл бұрын

Imagine Universal Studios announcing a Harry Potter experience, charging $6000 to enter, then giving it a generic European theming and throwing in a couple of Fantastic Beasts characters. That's what Disney did.

@wesjackson7437 Жыл бұрын

It was too expensive AND it was too niche. I don't think everyone wanted to be "in the story" and cosplay and have every minute of their stay on a schedule. It was expensive and it wasn't even a full two days.

@Popculturehero11 Жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for Kevin from Defunctland to make a Galactic Starcruiser episode. People will think it’s all a wild story years from now like Beastly Kingdom

@Davaldod Жыл бұрын

You are 10,000% dead-on-the-money regarding the psychology of guest participation. Absolutely right. MOST people do not want to "be responsible for their own entertainment." It's the same reason why so many people cringe away from audience participation in theater. Not only is it often awkward, but it cancels out the "surrender" necessary in good storytelling. Anyway, I think your insights are correct.

@FunAtDisney Жыл бұрын

ANd that is why Pirates and Mansion, more than 50 years later, still gets guest lining up for them. But, there are a lot of people, mainly the under 30 crowd that do like the immersive participation experience. Half their lives have been spent not just “watching” but participating in everything.

@Davaldod Жыл бұрын

@@FunAtDisney No question about it. But, given how the modern American economy makes it nearly impossible that under-30's have the money to meet the Galactic Cruiser price points, perhaps Disney could be said to have litrally priced out the very demographic that would be attracted to this experience. I'm just speculating, of course. I don't have the credentials, internal numbers, or market research to know for sure.

@FunAtDisney Жыл бұрын

@@Davaldod I agree, but my older daughter and her boyfriend went, both at the time 29. They have good jobs but since we all live in the Orange County (Calif) area with all the California taxes, prices, etc. it’s hard for them to save for a house. But it was worth it for them to go and something they will always remember. I think if you a re into it, on anything it maybe, folks will find a way to at least go once. And there is where I agree with you and David. Spending $5-$6K once for a couple day “event” is usually a one-time deal.

@Davaldod Жыл бұрын

@@FunAtDisney I certainly get it when it comes to CA house prices. I live in L.A. and home prices are sheer lunacy (although, to be clear, I absolutely love CA and wouldn't live anywhere else). As for the Galactic Cruiser pricing, of course you're right. Everyone has a different calculus as to what's worth spending and what's not. Everyone has different tastes and interests. One person may spend thousands on a safari to Mt. Kilimanjaro, pitching tents and camping in the bush. But another person would rather lounge for a week at a resort being brought umbrella drinks. I suppose all we can say for sure at this point is that Disney did the math and decided that Galactic Cruiser was more of a burden than an asset.

@FunAtDisney Жыл бұрын

@@Davaldod I think you are right about it being a burden. I also think they did not look at a long-term logistical view of how this would go. It was a bold idea and they should be applauded for that. I think it could still work by, as David said, they change up the stories, bring the original characters in and so on. And of course get the price down - but then if they lowered the price, how much of the cast and experience would they have to cut back? It’s a tough choice. As Mu original comment said, it would have better to build a fully themed Star Wars hotel and then have an all-day extra cost experience where all this could have been done for those who wanted it. If you ever saw some of the KZfaqrs who went on that first “cruise” (invited by Disney) if was all compressed into about 6 hours or so for the media - That would have been perfect. Price it at about $300 0r a bit more per person and it would have been a sustainable hit!

@CaliforniaDreamin. Жыл бұрын

As most things Disney does today - it was out of touch with what the fans wanted AND out of most their fans price range.

@tim.kaiser_aka_timmaay Жыл бұрын

Destined to fail from the beginning. Great concept indeed, great experience indeed, great value or return experience, absolutely not. They really messed up by advertising it for everyone while really excluding 98% of their fans. All that waste of money could have gone to rebuilding Tomorrowland at both US parks which we've all been screaming for over the years!

@FrugalFamilyFliesAgain Жыл бұрын

Such a good point! That would have been a way better use of those funds!

@veromikes Жыл бұрын

Amen. Horizons could have been rebuilt.

@Shonufff88 Жыл бұрын

I wanted to do the starcruiser, but the cost and needing to interact with cast members to get the full experience, held me back.

@QuatroAtYale Жыл бұрын

I'm the kind of person who WOULD'VE interacted, and even then, it came down to cost. If I'm going to Florida from California, I'm going for much more than two days. It always cost me a lot just to get there and stay. I thought, hey, eventually, if it drops in price, I can incorporate the Starcruiser into a longer vacation. But we ordinary types never had the chance.

@QuatroAtYale Жыл бұрын

In fact, at least four of my kids would be willing to interact, and the other two would go along with their siblings. And then there's at least one of my daughters-in-law who would be willing to do the interaction. But the more family I have that would've gone with us, the less possible it becomes that we could've afforded it.

@gissneric Жыл бұрын

If you're an introvert, this is definitely not for you 😂

@blair9056 Жыл бұрын

@@gissneric which leaves out a lot of Star Wars geeks 🤣

@JaneDoe-gp7so Жыл бұрын

@@gissneric I’m an introvert and don’t like interacting, but I made myself do it for my son’s sake. It turned out that the interactions were actually less important than completing missions that came through the app. Those were like scavenger hunts/ exploring and discovering things on the ship, and were soooo fun. I had the best time.

@RetroFett Жыл бұрын

You're right, Disney can't just convert it into a "regular" SW themed hotel without dumping a LOT of money into the property. None of the rooms have windows. There are no amenities (food court/swimming pool/exercise room). There is no bus stop for transportation around the WDW resort. The outside of the building is a bare slab. The rooms are small. There is a main dining room and a small bar and a gift shop. As WDW info said today, Disney COULD convert the existing Dining room/rework the story into a Hoop-Dee-Doo type dinner show, where you pay $70 a ticket for an all you can eat meal and have a character story unfold in front of you during your meal. Close off the hotel rooms and just leave the atrium, gift shop, and dining room open.

@vwellons Жыл бұрын

I would definitely stay there for a couple of nights, even without a window or balcony. The lack of pool, yeah that would be nice and wouldn't be too difficult for them to put in. Bus routes can be changed and I think the response would be huge getting people in there. Plus it has direct access to the park which is pretty amazing.

@Riceball01 Жыл бұрын

@@vwellons It only has direct access to Galaxy's Edge and even that is only via shuttle bus, there is no stepping out of the hotel and then stepping right in to any one of the parks.

@douglasvitrano Жыл бұрын

For me, the experience would make me somewhat extremely claustrophobic because you can’t go outside, except for the climate simulator, and the price was absolutely ridiculous

@squishyshelli Жыл бұрын

Exactly! This was my big issue with it, as well as the insane cost. I wasn't about to drop 6+ grand to be locked in a hotel with no windows for 3 days/2 nights!

@azdesertrats729 Жыл бұрын

Not being able to go outside wasn't the problem...making the rooms look like prison rooms that you see in Andor, was the problem, plus the cheap plastic looking ATARI BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Chucky Cheese expensive birthday party inside...that...was the problem

@butterfly2218 Жыл бұрын

Also the characters would be up in your face throughout your entire experience

@lindamemo5224 Жыл бұрын

About 8 months after it opened sales quickly fell off. It was a one and done too expensive. They shorted them from 3 nights to 2 nights due to lack of demand. They began cancelling ones that were not filling up offering 50% off discounts. They gave CM and DVC big discounts to try to fill the 100 rooms. It just wasn’t selling. That’s it.

@ladysensei1487 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the demand just wasn't there. If Universal opened an interactive Hogwarts hotel... it would never close and people would never leave the hotel and they would keep coming back over and over.

@FunAtDisney Жыл бұрын

I don’t recall it ever being 3 nights? Maybe I am wrong but every KZfaqr that went, and we watched a lot, it was only two nights. Arrival day 1 at 1pm, full day of activities, Batuu, dinner show and then the Kyle-Rey battle on day 2, then just a simple breakfast on day 3 before you leave. Perhaps they were initially planning to have a 3-night cruise at one time before it opened but never did.

@QuincyDisneyVegan Жыл бұрын

Demand actually fell off before it opened. Until Disney released promotional spots for it people booked their stay on it solely based on hype alone. And when the ad spots debuted during the Superbowl two years ago, people cancelled in droves and demanded their money back because the Star Cruiser looked like an over priced laughably cheap knock off of what Disney promised us.

@AggieMara Жыл бұрын

@@FunAtDisney You’re correct that it was for two nights.

@JaneDoe-gp7so Жыл бұрын

@@FunAtDisney correct, it was never 3 nights. We went not that long after it opened, and it was 2 nights.

@AtomicAgePictures Жыл бұрын

I think one of the major reasons that the interactive portions of Galaxy's Edge have not worked out so well is that they simply chose the wrong vehicle for it. If instead of saying bright suns they had said May the force be with you more people would know what that meant and might reply. The same thing with the galactic starcruiser. I hate to say it but if this were Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia and Han Solo a lot more people would be interested in it probably not at this price point but if they were to reduce it some I think they would have a lot more traffic.

@StreetNoise Жыл бұрын

They should've either had a regular hotel that was Star Wars themed or else a scaled down version of the interactive stuff where it only lasts a few hours. Combining the two and having it be so crazy expensive can't work long term.

@jordanwhite352 Жыл бұрын

The worst part is that behind the scenes all the interactive stuff was apparently supposed to be involved in the original galaxies edge theme park only to cut that out not only as an incentive for people to pay the way more expensive themed hotel but also because she said cost in the actual theme park did you get it out on schedule?.

@ainzer2903 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the screen that supposed to replace the window. It cost them money just to maintain it.

@MB-xl8nx Жыл бұрын

Disney continues to make bad decision after bad decision. I love Disney and always have (classic Disney, Walt Disney’s Disney) but it is getting harder and harder to support them. Star cruiser was destined to fail, it was so outrageously insipid to think people would pay for that.

@Jay-wk9xj Жыл бұрын

This was a GOOD business decision. And the lake Nona move was misguided to begin with.. then Lil fascist Gov. Of Fla. gave em all the reason they need to cancel. Another great move.

@perceivedvelocity9914 Жыл бұрын

@@Jay-wk9xj People on the Internet love to call people fascist. It used to mean something. Now it's just what you call someone who votes for another political party.

@stanfordite1 Жыл бұрын

This is why I have plans to seize Disney in a hostile takeover and bring back the Disney of Walt's time by ushering the Make Disney Great Again era. "What would Walt do?" will be the guiding mantra again like it was after his death.

@Pantheragem Жыл бұрын

@@perceivedvelocity9914 There's a whole list of words that have been rendered meaningless.

@justimagine2403 Жыл бұрын

Also, remember the Disney Institute? Disney Quest? La Nouba? Pleasure Island - Adventurer's Club - Manquins... Original EPCOT - never realized. River Country. Discovery Island. NBA Experience. BUILT THINGS - now gone. Alien Encounter.

@sarah91182 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos! I was at Hollywood Studios Wednesday. I’m a Star Wars fan but could not fathom dropping so much money on the GSC. I had a great interaction on Rise of the Resistance with the First Order. I had a Porg on my shoulder and he said, “I see you brought lunch.” I said they are delicious roasted and he asked if I’ve tried “Pulled Porg.” I said I have not and he recommended it. That’s the type of interaction we need more of in the parks. It doesn’t take much to give someone a magic moment. I also got to see Mando and Din Grogu and might have teared up a bit. 😂

@RegenerativeHomes Жыл бұрын

Great analysis. Imagine spending all the money to travel to and stay in Florida and most of the time you are kept indoors in spaces not unlike a prison. There is time set aside to visit Galaxy's Edge but one can do that without staying at the hotel.

@AtomicAgePictures Жыл бұрын

Let's say even a family could afford the $6,000 to go to the galactic starcruiser this year. Next year they're probably not going back to Disneyland or Disneyworld, they're probably going to go camping cuz it's what they can afford to do after spending $6,000

@jeremyrohr3876 Жыл бұрын

The Lake Nona project was shut down not only because of a fight with Florida. It was unpopular from it's announcement. 200 imagineers did sell their homes and had already relocated but the problem is bigger than Disney now. Because the state keeps making draconian laws that they just drove off a huge part of the work force down there. So, I imagine with the scarcity of workers that the cost to build was about to go through the roof to where even a 1 billion dollar tax break might not be worth it.

@doodybound7761 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that they built a hotel for this experience and not have a themed cruise instead. That way, you could have generic SW themed activities, plus you could do the role play for those who wanted a more immersive experience. Plus, going to different ports would work with the theme of roaming the "galaxy." At 5-7 days, it would be worth the price.

@resikat Жыл бұрын

This is what I was thinking, it'd be better off as a themed cruise.

@workingmothercatlover6699 Жыл бұрын

They touted it as a cruise anyway. This is a good idea.

@kevindrake4529 Жыл бұрын

Wow! There is some truly excellent analysis here. You made points that I have not heard argues anywhere before. You are 100% right about the Adventures By Disney being something that no one is ever upset about…but this price tag was just mercilessly pilloried in the press. One thing I will add to this is that when you pay $100k or whatever for AbD trips, I am sure you get World-class everything. But Starcruiser looked cheap. Four Seasons or Ritz hotels charge a fortune but everything inside looks expensive. You would be angry if a Holiday Inn Express charged as much as a Four Seasons…and Starcruiser looked like a very cheaply made and thrown-together Holiday Inn version of what could have been amazing if they spent more money to really make it look spectacular. The other thing that no one at Disney will admit is that they made a huge mistake in not having this be Luke Leia and Han with Vader as the villain. They keep trying to force the Disney sequels on people. But those movies do not have the same emotional resonance.

@GnpHiker Жыл бұрын

Yes. I agree really excellent analysis. I have never been on AbD disney trips, but looking at some of the itineraries, I don't think you get world class hotels. A lot of itineraries are in national parks where that type of luxury accommodation does not exist. Most people could probably book a similar or better itinerary at a fraction of the cost. What you probably do get is a full time tour guide. Looking at AoD US itineraries, they probably only make sense for people from overseas who might have trouble driving in the US or speaking English. I took a 'luxury' vacation with a company that had vacations similar to AbD. There definitely were not any luxury accommodations. The benefit was primarily having a full time tour guide so you never had to order your own taxi or struggle to try to decipher a foreign menu.

@_M_M_3 Жыл бұрын

I think the audience that would love to role play in the universe (myself included) were priced out. Sounded amazing, but the price wasn’t favorable. Got to see you walking into the parks today! Woohoo!

@BryanW. Жыл бұрын

If it was OT centered it would have had a better shot. Most fans (not all) are not interested in the Disney Sequel timeline. The cost was too prohibitive to the vast majority of consumers.

@ttintagel Жыл бұрын

I'd like to know what your data source is for the claim that "most" fans are not interested in the sequels.

@BryanW. Жыл бұрын

@@ttintagel I’d suggest going to rotten tomatoes and looking at the audience score for the sequel trilogy compared to the original trilogy. The fans that could afford to go to this place or all of the original trilogy age like myself, I wouldn’t waste $6000 on rain Kylo for any reason.

@chloewildner167 Жыл бұрын

It was too expensive, but you also couldn’t book online. You had to call. If you’re at all worried it’ll be too expensive, it’s incredibly awkward to call to find out the actual pricing. Dissuades folks who might’ve been willing to consider trying to budget for it if they knew the actual price.

@alphaomega7433 Жыл бұрын

“They should have had a coupon day” - The Lawyer from Jurassic Park

@mocrg Жыл бұрын

Because the demand Curve looked like the head of a pin. The number of customers who could afford such a holiday was exhausted in six months . I could have told you that for free.

@lukashabrock9499 Жыл бұрын

Hey fresh baked love your stuff, can’t wait to see you in the parks one day

@zach1810 Жыл бұрын

I agree David. You nailed the GSC problems and what it would have taken to fix the problem. They eliminated 95% of their target audience with the price. I was very excited for this, and would have found a way to pay for it, but when I saw the price it immediately sidelined it. When I saw Adam the Woo's videos on this I was once again excited, but the price I just couldn't get over.

@katcalico9142 Жыл бұрын

I think it could have been more successful if they somehow managed to also include an option for those that don’t want to participate. If you have a 4 person family and 2 want to go and 2 have no desire, especially given the cost, it is not a family vacation. An opt out option, maybe even access to the deluxe resort pools, and the option to go do your own thing for family members not into it would make the prices slightly more palatable - in my case let them do their thing while maybe go to a spa or hit up Epcot or Disney Springs. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@jimcampbell Жыл бұрын

I think it was 2 things (that David hits on here). 1. It was too expensive. 2. Most people don’t want to work that hard at being entertained: there was a joke headline from the fake news site the onion about a stage performance “oh no they’re coming into the audience”.. I know some people enjoy live action role playing, but I think most people just want to passively enjoy entertainment. I might be projecting but I’m one of those people who don’t want to work that hard to be entertained, and I couldn’t afford it anyway. If it was a Star Wars hotel themed in the way the Polynesian is (which is to say more passive and a tenth of the price but still pricey, I’d be way more tempted.

@julieclarke621 Жыл бұрын

Very much appreciate the insightful and factual update!!

@mdduet Жыл бұрын

Influencers that received totally free or highly discounted trips were really the only "great reviews" they got. Seems like all full paying guests had some negative follow ups. Still believe Disney dropped the ball by pushing their Star Wars narrative and not giving what they knew Trilogy fans really wanted.

@itsalexvargas Жыл бұрын

thanks for the rundown

@lucash5446 Жыл бұрын

Great video David!

@parkerpowers2841 Жыл бұрын

Interesting topics. Crazy news. Fresh Baked!!

@ScreamieBirds Жыл бұрын

Excellent points, David! Well done!

@oneearrabbit Жыл бұрын

I went on the Starcruiser when it first opened and I will be going again in September. I loved the experience and I am sad to see it go. But kudos to you sir for offering one of the most insightful and even handed videos regarding its closing. And you hit the nail on the head about needing stakes in an RP game/environment. When Disney sent me a survey after my first stay I said the story needed to be more flexible. I also echoed your sentiments to improve the experience by adding more characters, improving the graphics of the bridge training and adding more amenities. But yes, good video and I guess after September I will have to just keep doing my roleplaying around Galaxy’s Edge.

@Boltman12278 Жыл бұрын

cause its too expensive

@QuincyDisneyVegan Жыл бұрын

My guess is, since they cancelled the lake Nona Campus, WDI is going to move into the Star cruiser. If they don't do that, they should make Batuu East an expanded world that includes the hotel as a reimagined attraction. It would be a total shame if we lose characters like Oanni and Gaya the Galactic Superstar --- i love those two characters especially and hope to see them on Batuu!

@pattiejune7596 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you that they should keep the characters in the park. Universal has Celestina Warbeck and the Banshees putting on a show in Diagon Alley so everyone can enjoy it.

@aaronoxen Жыл бұрын

Great rant. Keep them up.

@disneylovingmama Жыл бұрын

I agree with it being a one and done. After seeing the experience on youtube I was not interested. I'd hate to essentially be locked into an experience. I revisit the Grand Californian every year because there is so much to do around the hotel and you build your own experience. I also love lounging by the pool. The starcruiser seemed exhausting!

@magicrocksguam Жыл бұрын

Whoever is in charge of Disney PR knows this from the 48 laws of power: it’s best to spread out good news and dump bad news all at once.

@naomiw7515 Жыл бұрын

Like you said David, Star Wars is for everyone. It’s generations upon generations. It needed to definitely have a better price point. The rooms needed to look more appealing. Would have been better to me if they would have had shows like they put on in Tomorrowland with the characters - think it was called the Jedi training- and the crowds knew before the main characters come out what to expect and how to participate. On a much larger scale though. Plus having the characters fans know from the movies and shows. I’ve never been. Only seen footage from KZfaqrs. Thanks for the update David. Have a wonderful day 😀

@justwatching2302 Жыл бұрын

Expectations = Westworld Reality = Upscale Chuck E Cheese’s

@MoonBunnietheBest Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@carlstokes9834 Жыл бұрын

The “spirit” of Disney is not the same anymore. It’s more of a thing where a lot of people go because they don’t want to be “left out” AND things like Genie + almost force you through the park and you don’t get to appreciate the little things like the smell of popcorn, the staff, the horses, shops on main street. When you’re an out of town guest (fly in) you can get caught in this cycle It’s sad…

@roberttg5108 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The “Park” is suppose to be a place you can get away from it all, relax and enjoy a few rides and entertainment. Exploring the park at your own place and experiencing the new places and things you discover. You paid your entry fee and you could enjoy all the facilities equal with everyone else. Now, it seems, you need to have to be on your iPhone, and constantly planning ahead, and run around the park to meet your appointed times while either paying more or having to endure longer lines and watching the people who did pay more get to the head of the line, making you wait longer for your turn.

@hidingfromsomeone Жыл бұрын

I saw an interesting discussion on Twitter about whether it could be turned into a Galaxy's Edge extension with an "immersive dining experience", which I think is a possibility. It all depends on whether there's an appetite at Disney to salvage the building and make it work, or whether they want to scrap it asap and forget it ever existed.

@jimcampbell Жыл бұрын

And I also agree and am super happy that imagineering is gonna stay in Burbank. Although I feel bad for the people who already moved or quit. But the successor of WED enterprises should be here where Walt built it and where the entertainment industry creatives live.

@thebluetarp Жыл бұрын

Best takes on the star cruiser I’ve heard! Good job DAVID!

@Paolo_DLR Жыл бұрын

I believe it. Surprised it lasted this long.

@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to the Defunctland video on the Star Wars Hotel 🤣

@curiouscreativenottalented6259 Жыл бұрын

It was announced as a hotel, then sold as an experience. Would have been more profitable as regular hotel, which it will probably end up becoming.

@donaldwhyte3634 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't they just make it a regular Star Wars themed hotel...?

@cbtink2 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with your thoughts on the way to get out of the mess they're in is to move forward - invest in the parks specifically. The parks are what keeps the Disney Corp afloat so put more into them and trust that by giving us the best possible will reap greater rewards. Good rant! 😄

@jediknight2883 Жыл бұрын

Good points. I guess the plan was for the rich to fly on the galactic star cruiser and the poor to fly star tours with C-3PO and R2-D2

@mattfloresrealtor Жыл бұрын

Aside from it being too expensive for sustainability, they gave us a product we didn't want. Disney keeps double, tripling and quadrupling down on the sequel trilogy. Their customers have spoken for years. They don't want those toys, they don't want those movies or shows, and they certainly don't want to drain their bank accounts on a Star Wars skinsuit cosplay experience.

@ttintagel Жыл бұрын

It all sold pretty well for something you claim nobody wanted.

@mattfloresrealtor Жыл бұрын

@ttintagel It all? Do you mean your evidence is a declining box office return data point that's almost 4 years old? Look at recent data my frend, something more contemporary than of that found in an Almanac.

@jeffreyh7951 Жыл бұрын

Hey Fresh Baked!!

@nonamegonzalez5711 Жыл бұрын

"They're for sale, but they're not selling it " that's the most accurate thing I've ever heard

@joncarlos716 Жыл бұрын

@ Freshbaked! So my question to you David is when do you think the show will be coming to galaxy edge? Or are they bringing us more blue sky ideas. Or do you think it’s going to be a premium dinner service deal with fireworks at galaxies edge? I really don’t understand why they can build a brand new hotel but they can’t put star tours and Star Wars launch bay with the dinner show in galaxy’s edge! It will literally pack the land with content and not have everything spread out. 🤔

@kayleep.2458 Жыл бұрын

It was for a VERY niche group of ppl. You have to LOVE star wars, have the $$$, be okay with doing "improv" & engage w/ the characters, etc. its so hard to find a big enough griup to last you years/decades. Especially if, like u said, its the same storyline everytime.

@cameronbyrd7671 Жыл бұрын

I think the Galactic Starcruiser can still work maybe by crafting a story that allows in-park guests to participate in a tour of the ship. They have the shuttles to transport guests to the "Ship." And then once guests arrive, they can chose the dinner show, or maybe flying the ship on the bridge. I think more people would've been open to something like that where they have a choice, but aren't forced to play along if they don't want to. Plus the cast members and performers wouls still be able to give top service because you would constantly have people coming.

@TheNerdStorm Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I was really curious about the construction/operating costs of the Starcruiser, because I've heard some varied estimates. A stream I watched earlier said "500 million" but that the increased costs of pandemic pushed it closer to a billion. Another video I watched said "Disney spent 2 billion" on the Starcruiser. I don't really have a strong opinion about it; it was never an option for me to stay there, and I probably wouldn't have wanted to anyway. The business side of it interests me, though. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts in this video

@BrandiCTX Жыл бұрын

If you can't count on repeat customers, then you risk going into the red. It also gives Disney the numbers when it comes to having to fire employees. Shut a whole hotel down and save millions in electricity, water, paychecks, etc.

@richletram539 Жыл бұрын

Thank You for the news updates. Sad that the Galactic Starcruiser failed, but honestly, I never could justify spending that kind of money on a two night trip. Seems like Iger is serious about cutting the fat and trying to save the company money in any way possible. I agree, that moving forward, they will only spend money on things that they know will bring in money. Thank you for keeping us updated on everything Disney. 😁

@moira329 Жыл бұрын

Besides the experience were guest given a role or character to play or was it more in the style of an role more NPC (Non playable character), because if that is the case that would play into the playability and people not willing or wanting to participate in the experience. I also think the market for the concept was very specific maybe too specific and the cost too high for the casual fan to want to play.

@ThunderMesaStudio Жыл бұрын

The Imagineers that I have talked to have no interest in returning after the absolutely horrible way they were treated by the Chapek team. He nuked those bridges.

@FearBeyond Жыл бұрын

it's not that it was just too pricey. it simply was not worth the cost. if it was worth the cost, enough wealthy people will book and rebook. but the product was not worth it to do it again and again. much better things to do with 6k. Plus, where was the star wars? Who were the characters? Was Darth Vader or Skywalker there? The product, which was for a limited crowd, failed to hook that crowd.

@lukeroberts3464 Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@FindingTheForce Жыл бұрын

Did anyone go on the starcruiser and felt like they did not have a good time? 🤷

@jerseyforhawks Жыл бұрын

I adore the newsman epi's.

@gissneric Жыл бұрын

They should transfer all the entertainment in the Starcruiser to GE like the Rey vs Kylo lightsaber finale. Gaya singing and Lt. Croy roaming around.

@michaelcalvillo2268 Жыл бұрын

David keep up the good work! Love watching your channel! As far as the plan to move all Imagineers to Florida with no Imagineering jobs left in SoCal, is incorrect. I have spoken to several Imagineers, and they have all said that most were going to be moved to Florida except the ones that work on projects specifically for Disneyland. I am glad however, that they canceled opening up the new campus in Florida, because Disney Imagineering belongs here where it all started by Walt to have a division within the company with the purpose of designing and building Disneyland.

@itzjoshh93 Жыл бұрын

I thought this was very well said. I agree with everything you said.

@lacanidjion Жыл бұрын

Alienation of the core customer fan base in media and over pricing of the guest experience with sub par technology.

@DocNo27 Жыл бұрын

and IP no one cares about.

@lacanidjion Жыл бұрын

Disney mismanagement at it's finest.

@stlgdroidst Жыл бұрын

They could think outside the box and leverage the Starcruisers location next to Galaxies Edge by turning it into an exclusive attraction instead of a hotel. How about a Star Wars version of the Space 220 restaurant or even a Club 33 location.

@michaelmadsen1222 Жыл бұрын

Great point about this affecting Disney risk appetite. We always say we want creatives to do what they do and not get shut down with money talks. To me the Star Cruiser is letting creatives build something new and cool, which they did do and were successful at. Everything I heard on the Star Cruiser talked about it being really really great. But if the business side is ignored, then it fails. It is the ying and the yang and you need both keeping each other in balance.

@mushieslushie Жыл бұрын

Hopefully this means they can now bring a show to Galaxy's Edge. Forget the Interactive stuff, just do something like they did on Star Wars night but less cheesy and with some more effects and wireworks n stuff.

@AStageForTheKingdom Жыл бұрын

There was originally supposed to be a dinner theatre in Galaxy’s Edge. They should finally get around to building that.

@jenniferschillig3768 Жыл бұрын

What with the cosplay, immersive experience, and running storyline that you have to be certain places to follow, this sounds a lot like your typical Renaissance Faire. The difference being that you don't pay five thousand dollars to spend two days at a Ren Faire.

@FunAtDisney Жыл бұрын

My option of the Lake Nona project was that it made sense. Yes I know they may be unpopular, but Orlando area is the center of the theme park industry. Universal Creative is there as well as many designs firms and studios dedicated to theme park development and a huge talent pool. This is also where IAPA is based and where their convention is held each year. And Disney has far bigger area there, more theme parks, more resorts and thousands of undeveloped property. Yes DeSantis and the Florida state government has basically pissed that all away now., but I think as negative as it would have been for the Imagineering workforce here, it made sense. (And the bonus for those Imagineers that would have moved, or new ones to come in, that pay goes a lot further in central Florida then it does in California!

@Alyssa-Michelle Жыл бұрын

THANK GOD. Keep Imagineering in CA

@MelissaAndAlex Жыл бұрын

I love the extreme theme concept galaxy’s edge originally had but it just doesn’t work in a theme park. It’s too busy and never will feel that way. And yes I want them to entertain me lol 7:32

@Kevinardo Жыл бұрын

I always went to Disneyland because I built many memories there and I wanted to build on those. Never had a bad day there because I wasn't looking for a premium experience, just entertainment, Disney-flavored if you will. It seems that the modern model is not about the quality like in the past, but to squeeze dollars from guests so shareholders get dividends. I feel Disney is being driven by marketing data - data that overrules creative decisions. I read somewhere that when John Lassiter became the head of creative decisions he said something like, "If you don't know how to draw, this is your last day." I know he had his issues but the notion that decision makers should be well versed in the creative process. I wash that Disney would consider something like this again. I bet they'd keep the parks full of happy guests, but what do I know...I'm just a music teacher. And a fan.

@Factoryf98 Жыл бұрын

I had 2 friends go, i was supposed to go, but the price tag was ridiculous, though i can afford it, i opted not to go, my friends that went told me they where disappointed and wouldn’t com back.

@pauls3253 Жыл бұрын

the starcruiser was not only too niche and expensive but it also required too much participation. a lot of people, most actually, prefer to not be stressed or have to do extra work they dont want to on their vacations. it was sold like cruiseship but you dont go anywhere, you are in one place and it cost 2-3 times more than other cruises. not only that but regular cruises has way more things to do IF the guests chooses, they can only just chill and relax and enjoy the trip and visiting a new country instead of being stuck inside a building with no real windows the starcruiser is simply put, a very expensive cosplay experience

@isleofredemption Жыл бұрын

I used to do a LARP-based experience at a Renaissance Faire between, like, 2011 and 2019. They did, in fact, have a leaderboard and points and winners and prizes. It became a toxic, cutthroat mess to where the casuals who were just in it for fun were trod upon by the veterans and cliques that inevitably emerged. And that was when people were only paying about 10$ for the game and 20$ for the ticket to the faire. Imagine the people who are not only entitled and cutthroat, but also paying 6000$ for the experience. ‘Stakes’ I dig, but not so much PVP.

@workingmothercatlover6699 Жыл бұрын

What he's saying reminds me of when I experienced Extra Terrorestrial before they changed it to Stitch. I went on it, and was terrified. I loved it. The second time I went on it, I sat there a little bored and thought in my mind how they pulled off the effect. Not exactly a great repeatable attraction. What is needed is something that people can experience the same enjoyable way each time. A rollercoaster gives the same adrenaline rush time after time. Most of the rides are like that. Disney really needs to think things through a lot more before spending so much money on it.

@brianburgess7510 Жыл бұрын

It will become a walkthrough experience!

@lani2649 Жыл бұрын

With completely sold out "Last Sailings" is GSC really closing?

@grahammalinowski1982 Жыл бұрын

“Star Wars belonged to all of us” Wow. You nailed it. 😢

@cathypatterson3407 Жыл бұрын

Yes, better role playing experience if you have a goal. Laser tag is more interactive and star wars like!

@AStageForTheKingdom Жыл бұрын

I still think Star Wars laser tag at Disney theme parks would be a massive hit. Think Battlefront in real life. Imagine getting to play laser tag, maybe even in costume, on the Death Star or other iconic Star Wars locations…

@kaleikealoha6775 Жыл бұрын

I'm so distraught about this... i can't even bring myself to finish this episode of Freshbaked. Maybe I'll come back to it later.

@catski23 Жыл бұрын

I remember you going to a community outreach event to explain to people the plans for Disney Forward; David! When the concept art was first shared; I was so excited, but talk seemed to disappear into thin air. I’m wondering if closing Galactic Starcruiser & scrapping the Lake Nona Project might be the catalyst for the renewed interest in Disney Forward; shops, rides, food, attractions & maybe even hotel space?!? This to me seems to be more commercially “safe”, but in the end profitable. California was supposed to get the Star Wars hotel; but Anaheim officials nixed that idea. Valiant & creative effort by Disney; but you’re right… The project was developed to be unique & high end… A once in lifetime experience for most; watering down the experiences would be in my opinion, the only way to cut costs. Excited that there are so many videos of Guest experiences on KZfaq. The only way my family would have been able to take part in the fun & excitement. Thanks for all of the videos… Absolutely love your channel! 🙏🏻❤️

@disneydad626 Жыл бұрын

I think they should turn it into a sit down themed restaurant. And another oga style bar

@authorRisenfromash Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this nuanced look at the Star Cruiser's failure.

@rogerricalde2567 Жыл бұрын

The price was way too high for the starcruiser. And the cast members don't go because of the price and didn't have the money to enjoy it. And some didn't want to go back because of the high price and were sad about it. And the governor of Florida ruined it and what a loss of tax money and now he is getting sued because he wanted more control and anyone else with him.