Why did Everyone Stop Using this Broken Pokemon?

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@gaminggranny1541 Ай бұрын

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@GDKsan Ай бұрын

short answer: incineroar Long answer : the second DLC came and re introduced the seventh gen first partner pokemon litten enabling through its evolution to get incineroar.

@haydeniskander5306 Ай бұрын

Eh, Incineroar certainly didn't help, but if Landorus-Therian couldn't stop Iron Hands, then Incineroar alone shouldn't have been able to either. I think the bigger culprit is actually Raging Bolt, who almost literally does Iron Hands's job but better. It's faster, has better priority w/ Thunderclap, has more utility with Snarl, has a better Paradox ability in Protosynthesis, and isn't vulnerable to Intimidate. Not trying to suggest that Incineroar didn't play a role. It certainly did. But without Raging Bolt, Iron Hands would still have a unique niche that nothing else could really fill, even w/ Clear Amulet over Assault Vest.

@namo2403 Ай бұрын

if we are talking about reg f and before, the rise of incine+rila means that if you do run a physical attacker, it either has to have covert cloak, clear amulet or inner focus, which was why when incine first came back, he was the 2nd most used fire type behind entei then came raging bolt, a bulky av special lightning type which does the job of iron hands without the drawback of getting intimidated iron hands is just a weaker mishmash of incine, rila, rbolt if we are talking about reg g, incine is always the goat of restricted formats, there's nothing much to really say intimidate, fakeout, dark stab, parting shot = good into almost every restricted mon except kyogre

@agamerjoinedyt 29 күн бұрын

raging bolt might fall off a bit cuz of miradon

@haydeniskander5306 29 күн бұрын

@@agamerjoinedyt So far, it actually appears as though Miraidon is falling off a bit because of Raging Bolt! haha But who knows, maybe someone will start cooking with it. Edit: I could be wildly off about all this, though.

@namo2403 29 күн бұрын

@@haydeniskander5306 and kyogre is falling off because of pelipper caly-ice, zacian, zamazenta, solgaleo, dialga all benefit from the rain to remove fire super effective meanwhile for caly-s, lunala, giratina in rain heavily cuck koraidon funnily enough, kyogre loses to pelipper due to wide guard and tailwind and raging bolt already has legendary stats so you might as well use another restricted

@hotcoldfire8273 Ай бұрын

Ray got sponsored by raid shadow legends, he’s a real KZfaqr now

@nathanieljones8043 Ай бұрын

Trust me that isn't the bar the bar is getting so big you don't need to do ad reads for garbage games

@georgecortes3416 Ай бұрын

Ray sponspored by Raid Shadow Legends...Ray'd Shadow Legends...

@lordgrub12345 Ай бұрын

@@nathanieljones8043 yeah, if you aren't like on 10 million range you aren't a real youtuber 😡

@wastedninjadude Ай бұрын

Iron valiant is only trash in open team sheet formats. It’s high speed and (assuming closed team sheet) having the opponent not know whether it’s physical, special, or mixed is very powerful.

@quanghoang6901 Ай бұрын

@wastedninjadude still really underwhelming tbh. Iron Valiant is just too frail and dies to pretty much anything above average and doesn't get resisted.

@hmmmmmmmmm1708 Ай бұрын

"Iron Valiant is complete garbage and is always nowhere to be seen in competitive play" As a singles player, that phrase is so weird to hear

@mandalorianhunter1 Ай бұрын

Yeah it's really weird to hear but we will see what happens when Miraidon comes

@blazechaos212 Ай бұрын

I think it's because how mixed attackers are not good in VGC.

@why3994 Ай бұрын

@@blazechaos212It's just weird when people say "competitive play" when actually they meant to say VGC

@xaviersgd Ай бұрын

⁠@@why3994because vgc is official competitive play.

@MelodyLumina Ай бұрын

tho to be fair don't ppl mainly run val in ou cuz flutter isn't an option

@Matthias-pj6th Ай бұрын

Haven't watched yet, but I'm going to put my guess here and double-check later. 1: Iron Hands was the only good Electric STAB for the longest time, but we now got Raging Bolt who's better in practically every way. 2: The main utility Iron Hands brought to a match besides it's bulk and Electric STAB is Fake Out, but now we got Rilaboom and Incineroar who are both MUCH better Fake Out users. 3: Incineroar and Hisuian Arcanine means that Intimidate is more common than it has ever been in VGC, which means that all dedicated physical attackers like Iron Hands are fighting an uphill battle. EDIT: Finished watching, and good to see that I was pretty much on the money.

@altariamotives16 Ай бұрын

Thanks, saved me 20 minutes

@christopherballero866 Ай бұрын

When seeing Incenerior every other Pokemon says either I'm doomed or how do I work with you

@akshayreddy4071 Ай бұрын

Doubt that's gonna be the case for reg G, most of the huge threats seem to be special attackers this time as opposed to gen 8, tho ofc big cat incineroar always finds a way

@nerdyfalco408 Ай бұрын

Short answer: incineroar. Long answer: incineroar.

@InsaneAsylumResident8 Ай бұрын

That’s the longest explanation of Incineroar I’ve seen in a while

@inferno7892 Ай бұрын

Wolfey:hi

@Nagatem Ай бұрын

Poor Brian Hands has hit some hard times

@cjchu2597 Ай бұрын

I can't believe his wife left him

@inferno7892 Ай бұрын

@@cjchu2597and she took the car

@cjchu2597 Ай бұрын

@inferno7892 no, you can't be real. how is Brian supposed to get to the next regional now?

@Short_Bloom Ай бұрын

I think once Reg G rolls around, Iron Hands could have a place in Miraidon teams as an answer to Pokemon that could give it trouble like Flutter Mane, Zacian, and opposing Iron Bundle. It'll probably remain a niche pick, though.

@zomorion9183 Ай бұрын

You mean G?

@Short_Bloom Ай бұрын

@@zomorion9183 Whoops

@Endershock1678 Ай бұрын

Flutter Mane and Bundle I get, but how exactly do you propose Iron Hands lives a Zacian Play Rough without committing its Tera?

@Abalamski Ай бұрын

Yeah running 2 electric types on the same team sounds fantastic, like what? Lol can’t even justify it for fake out since it’s outpaced by Incin,Rilla, hell even mienchao Double ground weakness and double fairy weakness? Will get deleted by flutter and and lando. Both of which have been top 10 meta picks for months

@calapai7 Ай бұрын

I've been using min speed Clear Amulet Hands in a Miraidon team and it's great against Trick Room, especially BloodLuna

@jerisj.8971 Ай бұрын

The effective base stat total concept is something I haven't actually put to practice before. That's a great side note for me.

@blazechaos212 Ай бұрын

Why are mixed attackers non-existent in VGC but are thriving in singles?

@snider1365 Ай бұрын

Well part of what makes mixed attackers so dangerous is that it’s hard to know what moves they have, but vgc is open team sheet so you always know what their move set is.

@christianherrera1322 Ай бұрын

Additionally, part of the reason you used a mixed attacker is to hit a broader selection of targets. In doubles/vgc it's a lot easier to have different pokemon specialize in hitting other targets because you can have multiple pokemon on the field that naturally or can simply compensate for what your pokemon may lack coverage or power for

@Endershock1678 Ай бұрын

@@snider1365 Even before OTS, mixed attackers weren’t great. In singles, you want Pokémon to match up into as many things as possible, so Blaziken for example, should matched up well into both special walls and physical walls to prevent switching, but in VGC, you have your partner to cover for your bad matchups, so you don’t need as much coverage

@hanscaniagochan8448 Ай бұрын

part of it because of ots, but even then why you want use a mon with mediocre (kinda) sattack/attack instead of using another mon with high attack and help it with its partner. in some situation it can be helpful to some extent but unless the meta somehow got warped to mixed attacker is needed you better off not doing that

@ClasIsMid Ай бұрын

@@Endershock1678 not the best example bc blaziken will never run a special set but a mon like infernape would be a traditionally better answer thanks to its good stab coverage and decent ability to threaten a lot of targets. even now you can say iron valiant and be right bc it can also use mixed sets on top of purely physical or special sets

@LexClone5 Ай бұрын

With Miraidon on the way, Iron Hands just needs a rebranding so it can check the top threats. Fake Out alone is insanely good to have in High Power Level Formats, and when you have the damage output and the bulk to live strong hits, it has the chance to provide value

@kiwi40238 Ай бұрын

I don't think Hands is ever gonna be mainstream again because with Miraidon Groudon also comes and Groudon has phenomenal coverage so a tera grass/flying Hands isn't gonna cut it.

@Zaileir Ай бұрын

LMAO the shot of Nick Donnelly at 11:48 is so good

@Mysterious-Stranger Ай бұрын

Once again, props to the editor. The memes and references in here are killing me (in a good way)

@nicholaschan5022 Ай бұрын

the gurren lagann refernece

@SilverScarletSpider Ай бұрын

the editor should just remove the awkward camera shots and making it more visuals

@LordKamek Ай бұрын

I have been using clear amulet Iron Hands on my Reg F team for ages because my Archaludon was always using assault vest and I am rarely disappointed. Iron Hands survives so much, even Flutter Mane (as long as Flutter Mane isn't choice specs). Hilariously, all 4 moves my Iron Hands has were the ones in the pool lol. HIGHLY recommend clear amulet Iron Hands

@Darkwater2013 Ай бұрын

Your editing has once again been fantastic. I see Iron Hands coming back, the damage boost in electric terrain is big and Miraidon likely everywhere. Although they have many shared weaknesses. On a site note, I would like to see a buff for Mewtwo. I am not even sure what ability could be strong enough to give Mewtwo a lot of viability, I guess shadow tag could be nice. But seriously, Calyrex is just OP and Mewtwo just sits there crying or something and Tera makes Calyrex even more broken. Dark type Pokemon will be more important with Calyrex around and maybe normal type Pokemon, too, so Iron Hands might just get some more targets that way.

@MsVilecat Ай бұрын

It's so easy to negate electric terrain with grassy surge or even psychic terrain (which are very popular), and that means you'd likely end up with 2 electric type on your team.

@Darkwater2013 Ай бұрын

@@MsVilecat It is just as easy to set it up with Miraidon again, since it gets Volt Switch. Terrain and weather just work that way. Plus, I didn't say you have to run Iron Hands on a Miraidon team, you can also bring it to matches when the opponent has Miraidon which now potentially helps the trick room mode of your team, if you plan it that way. Iron Hands isn't limited to a supporting role, it can deal serious damage with the ability related attack boost and electric terrain boost for wild charge. Doubling down on types isn't as bad anymore, since tera is a thing. Double water/grass/fire have all been strong. It really depends on how your team works and related dual-type combos. In single restricted formats getting the most out of your restricted Pokemon is usually very important, so using those to enable Paradox Pokemon to carry some of their weight is a good idea.

@RyChu376 Ай бұрын

Ray Rizzo making a DBZ Abridged reference… I’m happy this evening

@manlikevirus Ай бұрын

the editing in this video was so fun. Loved the assault vest bit especially!

@TheVenusaur Ай бұрын

Hey Ray! I just wanna say I'm thankful for your informative videos. I've been playing pokemon for a very long time but I've never got into vgc until recently. It truly is a different side of this franchise and I've been really happy to learn it. Thank you :)

@96Gorilla Ай бұрын

Loved the editing in this video. Very informative and very funny!

@chazzburke9073 Ай бұрын

The Wo Chien slander was uncalled for

@paulsteaven Ай бұрын

Pawmot before 2024: *He can't keep getting away with it...*

@kza6648 5 күн бұрын

Talking about stats, its good to point how hp base stat contributes about 40% more to your bulk than the defense stat(2 hp stats are 40% better than 1 in each defense usually), the math would be more complicated there but it means iron hands has a insane effective stat total because of that aswell

@Kazeshindo Ай бұрын

For someone new to VGC, this is probably the best type of video around. It explains the meta, as well as giving advice for getting around it. Thank you, Mr. Ray Rizzo, sir. 😂

@submit2darkseid Ай бұрын

You either die a hero or live along enough to shill for raid shadow legends.

@memekeeper-gaming3552 Ай бұрын

Short answer: Incineroar Long answer: iiiiinnnnnccccciiiiinnnnneeeeerrrrroooooaaaaarrrrr

@santajohnsduraorduraclause4678 10 күн бұрын

Bro got hit with the “I don’t wanna play with you anymore”

@Lilskeevs Ай бұрын

the King has spoken! love ya ray! always hype when I see you upload

@higdoooo Ай бұрын

Having the move cards change color for typing would be a cool addition to add Ray!

@PurpleSlays Ай бұрын

Such an awesome informative video, Ray. Also congrats on the sponsorship

@RockOrso2 Ай бұрын

Groudon,Koraidon & Miraidon gonna come make them more usable, especially the Violet paradoxes like Valiant or Crown, so Hands could possibly return.

@lj4888 Ай бұрын

12:25 ... did you just make a David Pakman reference 😂

@MikerrrTT Ай бұрын

That Starforce soundtrack hits hard

@se44th Ай бұрын

nice video ray. sad to see the downfall of hands, my second favorite paradox after slither wing and only one that was decently usable

@GunnarClovis Ай бұрын

The Rizzler Strikes Back

@Shadowmonunite Ай бұрын

16:17 unseen mistake caught me off guard.

@aoxVGC Ай бұрын

I actually see it picking up to be honest, with max spdef investment and clear amulet its high hp means you tank anything you need to on the special side and avoid intimidate, you benefit on the side with electric terrain in case your opponent has miriadon out and its good into terapagos as that will increase in usage

@byronsteel10000 19 күн бұрын

Out of all the paradox pokemon. Only Iron Hands and Brute Bonnet are my go to. Also Iron Bundle scares me kind of.

@darkcheaker Ай бұрын

Iron Hands one-tapping dark Moltres is hilarious.

@aesir748 Ай бұрын

And to think that past paradox pokemon are only going to get better once Groudon is legal. FM and RB now get paired with a bulky physical attacker with a 120 bp spread move

@tysondennis1016 9 күн бұрын

Imagine falling off due to a Pokémon that you have a type disadvantage against. That’s embarrassing.

@kalarse Ай бұрын

Seeing the owned counter brings me such great memories :'3

@kostasnikos5157 Ай бұрын

I would like to see a vgc battle between you and Wolfe! You both are living legends!! It would be amazing!!!

@jacobcross9415 Ай бұрын

Another beautifully edited video!

@typemasters2871 Ай бұрын

Talking about how Landorus-T would Tera just to have a strong physical flying type STAB reminds me of how there are Pokemon that lack a specific STAB option due to either no move existing besides certain signature moves or no option being available in the Pokémon’s move pool. I’m no competitive expert so I am not sure what type and physical/special combo need better moves (besides physical electric due to Supercell Slam being too risky) so I can’t make a list that include all the combinations that need better wide spread attacks. I could definitely see Tera Blast potentially being brought back and reworked to work without tera but that would end up becoming “Hidden Power 2.0”.

@zawaray4229 Ай бұрын

These thumbnails are amazing!!

@blacktarsalmon6697 Ай бұрын

Great video, but one small nitpick is that all the move carb backgrounds being green really confuses me and doesn't look particularly pleasant either

@KojayTV Ай бұрын

I’ll take this into account for future videos, thanks for pointing that out!!

@qweschuning Ай бұрын

7:02 awesome edit

@lamandyu Ай бұрын

I miss Ray at the competitive scene so much. Is he competing this year?

@zhanyao2481 Ай бұрын

valiant slander is insane, vgc a different world fr

@pato9467 Ай бұрын

Ray is back

@winterwatson6437 Ай бұрын

rip brian

@gavanator7 Ай бұрын

Rip Brian hands.. you will be missed 🙏😔

@SkyNinja759 Ай бұрын

I hope when Pokemon moves past paradox pokemon they take it as a learning experience and apply their knowledge to the normal, current day, pokemon. I want Hariyama to be as viable as Brian Hands is/was. The gen 3 sumo has gotten the bad end of the stick for decades now.

@sconettilda8580 Ай бұрын

Hariyama actually was very good in the reg1 for quiet long time, it either had offensive and defensive tools in guts + fake out + wide guard and was really usable

@SkyNinja759 24 күн бұрын

@@sconettilda8580 He can compete with cherry picked regional dex formats, but as soon as the power levels get any higher he falls off hard.

@opressora2436 Ай бұрын

YOOO, RAID AD 🔥🔥🔥

@axelblaze4088 Ай бұрын

Guys I might be wrong on this, but I have a small feeling The Champ doesn’t like Urshifu

@javiersantinopanganiban9613 Ай бұрын

Me over here in showdown playing reg g with miraidon and iron hands

@Beegsire Ай бұрын

No matter what, I will always be a Brian Hands believer.

@leaf_plant_thing2 Ай бұрын

damn i already use clear amulet iron hands lmao

@terrysalt 28 күн бұрын

Just out of curiosity, does intimidate always activate before booster energy? Or is it just because Iron Hands is so slow that it activates second?

@doginpillows20 27 күн бұрын

Abilities activate in speed order

@terrysalt 26 күн бұрын

Thanks. :)

@KneeckohGaming 26 күн бұрын

Hey, I made it in a Ray Russo video! Pretty cool!

@gligarguy4010 Ай бұрын

Why must Ray bully my boy Pincurchin 😢

@Ringoismybirdo Ай бұрын

Are you ever gonna re enter the competitive scene seriously a rematch between you and wolf would be the biggest battle in vgc history

@BunnyWitchcraft Ай бұрын

STOP DISSING THE GOAT PAWMOT

@harleyjo4875 Ай бұрын

I miss the Hands

@rebornreaper194 Ай бұрын

Wait, are you that guy that Wolfey talked about?

@evelyie Ай бұрын

Video resume: Incineroar

@MH61632 20 күн бұрын

GURREN LAGANN REFERENCE 🌀

@gaminggranny1541 Ай бұрын

IronValiant haters when a pokemon doesnt invest into HP/defenses

@kayladecant7332 Ай бұрын

Absolute banger video

@Blizzi88 Ай бұрын

Still using Hands in Trick room and I am place 500 something

@patrol2omega Ай бұрын

I keep spamming Iron Hands on my Trick Room teams, but only on Switch or Showdown since Pokémon has NEVER held a tournament in México and we're in 2024 🙄🙄🙄 I'm not Mexican but my wife is ❤

@ThewiseOrangutan Ай бұрын

in short it was INCINEROAR!

@andrewarmstrong24 Ай бұрын

Raid Shadow Legends more like Ray-d Shadow Legend!

@lelandwhitehead56 Ай бұрын

Small note: Trick room reverses the speed order for the most part, but not entirely. It is actually possible to be fast enough that you outspeed ‘slow’ Pokémon inside trick room.

@doginpillows20 27 күн бұрын

It's hard to set up, but true, also priority still acts in the same order

@rhesapratama4194 Ай бұрын

unseen mistake thats good

@raizen4597 Ай бұрын

Miraidon 👀

@dade97asd96 Ай бұрын

Damn (Ray Rizzo) is good

@aprildesy4133 Ай бұрын

inciniroar happened

@blakecurtis23 26 күн бұрын

Crazy that people even watch cheaters like wolfe when content like this exists

@BarrettC9 Ай бұрын

I didn’t!

@chefdunsparce4254 Ай бұрын

Mfw reg g (no more reg f! Good luck iron hands)

@Joe-cp5ud Ай бұрын

I’ve had more fun this gen than ever before, and on the same note, gen 10 and the new switch can’t come fast enough.

@Trusty25 Ай бұрын

Loved the video, not so much the sponsorship, you will never see me supporting an israeli company

@wentoneisendon6502 Ай бұрын

Lmao the memes

@ammonbert1707 Ай бұрын

I feel like you ignored the concept of a mixed attacker entirely in this video 😅 Mixed Iron Valiant is definitely a threat with hardcore '4-move syndrome'

@bazuso6494 Ай бұрын

mixed attackers really only exist in singles

@blazechaos212 Ай бұрын

@@bazuso6494why are mixed attackers not threatening in VGC?

@kachebelka3416 Ай бұрын

Except mixed attackers typically aren’t great in VGC because the ability to hit on both sides of the spectrum is rarely more valuable than additional bulk or speed. The difference in damage you can do for hitting on one side as opposed to the other typically isn’t as large in VGC so you’d rather have a Pokémon that can actually take a hit unlike iron valiant Edit: also wanted to add that although you do see mixed attackers in smogon, in generations past gen 3 they are quite rare due to the phys/spec split making it usually unnecessary. While running both physical and special can help you deal with walls like chansey, again this is coming at a sacrifice to something usually. Whether that’s getting rid of a useful move to throw on an attack on the other side of the physical special spectrum, ev spreads not being optimal, or item, usually there is some sort of loss.

@bazuso6494 Ай бұрын

@@blazechaos212 Mixed attackers typically don’t hit as hard as single stat Pokémon and evs are also much more important and matter more in doubles so you would be wasting additional bulk or speed

@rockowlgamer631 Ай бұрын

I'm starting to notice how easily one sided it is for this whole Physical versus Special matchup is. Maybe they should make an ability that's like Intimidate but for special attackers. Bring Frostbite from Legends Arceus into the proper games to replace Freeze, and make a Huge Power version for special attackers to help balance out the new "nerf" suggestions I've made.

@DungeonMaster6 Ай бұрын

Raid Rizzo lol

@joopvanhedel1372 Ай бұрын

I think we'll see him on teams again now that miraidon can be used. Iron Hands can now use his ability while still using his Assault Vest

@Abalamski Ай бұрын

Double electric type with double ground weakness?

@Abalamski Ай бұрын

Double ground and double fairy weakness? I highly doubt

@joopvanhedel1372 Ай бұрын

@@Abalamski I don't think most ground type pokemon would like a tera dragon Draco Meteor. Groudon is the only good restricted ground legendary which is useless if you decide to use koraidon which is also a good option to set up the sun

@Abalamski Ай бұрын

@@joopvanhedel1372 ting-Lu doesn’t care about Draco meteor

@joopvanhedel1372 Ай бұрын

@@Abalamski Iron Hands is a fighting type. And Iron Bundle with electric Terrain. I wish you good luck

@byRicky9 Ай бұрын

Pole

@diamonddeity4607 Ай бұрын

I’m sorry bro but crazy how people are still taking Raid shadow legends sponsorships

@antoniogamboa8550 Ай бұрын

Love how this self proclaimed “competitive “players bash into urshifu, here is when the lack of skill comes to fruition. Every Pokemon has a counter, even something as urshifu, unseen fist is just another ability, if the ability is the problem get rid of it. There is plenty of moves, abilities and strategies to do so. Urshifu and its ability is not a mistake , skill issue is. That is why smogon be banning and creating imaginary tiers, the lack of skill is so vast, that they need to control it like 10 year olds

@jakariashafin8685 Ай бұрын

Tell that to mega Ray

@icarlygod Ай бұрын

Who are you?

@trick6pokemon624 Ай бұрын

This has to be satire lmao

@isuckatgaming1873 Ай бұрын

Says someone who clearly doesn't play the game lol

@Rafi_Imam Ай бұрын

who the hell is this dude

@idkdk569 Ай бұрын

will you be playing at japan nationals? worlds at hawaii without you would be too weird

@byronsteel10000 19 күн бұрын

Wow....the legendary Ray Rizzo. Pokemon Champion 3 years in a row.🫡

@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe Ай бұрын

Look just because you play VGC which is the official way that you're supposed to do competitive Pokemon does not mean that you should discount iron Valiant it is a very good competitive Pokemon.

@doginpillows20 27 күн бұрын

He discounts it because its bad in HIS format which of course is what he familiar with