Why did Palpatine CHOOSE to SAVE Darth Vader? 🤔

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16 күн бұрын

What was the reason why Palpatine chose to save Darth Vader?
Cuz he could have left him and moved on to another apprentice like he did to Darth Maul and Count Dooku but Palpatine had his reasons for keeping the The Chosen One.
And the Legends book Dark Lord the Rise of Darth Vader helps answer this question.
In the book, it says that as Sidious walked over to where Vader was lying but he struggled to figure out what to do with a now half burnt apprentice.
He even thought about letting Vader die to punish him for not being able to beat Obi-Wan.
But in the end, he realized that it would be a waste to leave him after spending 13 years grooming Anakin Skywalker to be his Apprentice.
And not just a waste of time but a waste of power as well.
Cuz Palpatine knew that he would never find another person even half as powerful as Vader to replace him.
But there was something else Palpatine thought of that was now in his control
And that was the fact that Padme was dead and this left Vader with no attachments which Palpatine used to manipulate him.

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@definitely_not_Hirohito 14 күн бұрын

"13 years grooming Anakin"😮

@bradlawonn9042 13 күн бұрын

He could have used the word, "Watching over."

@DanielTAKD 12 күн бұрын

Why do you twist the meaning? Why do you must put something dirty into Palpatine manipulating Anakin?

@gawthic1 12 күн бұрын

@@DanielTAKD That's actually the more traditional meaning of the term "grooming". It didn't have any sinister implications until a few years ago. It used to be perfectly normal to say that you were grooming your successor and generally no one would assume anything shady was happening unless there was already reason to believe that the one doing the grooming was shady in some way.

@DanielTAKD 12 күн бұрын

@@gawthic1 Yes, that's correct. But as I mentioned, not Hirohito surely meant something dirty. That emoji displays it well.

@definitely_not_Hirohito 12 күн бұрын

@@DanielTAKD What, like that's a good thing?

@The_Griffins_99 14 күн бұрын

Little did Palpatine know his apprentice would turn on him decades later.

@StarWars_Insider 14 күн бұрын

😈

@farakhhanif 14 күн бұрын

He knew he would do that some day. The whole point of “the rule of two” is for the apprentice to one day kill his master to become the master himself.

@MarioBrosJediKnightXD 14 күн бұрын

@@farakhhanif The rule of two isn't it a Jedi code? Can a Jedi master have two Padawans then?

@farakhhanif 14 күн бұрын

@@MarioBrosJediKnightXD No, it is not a Jedi code. You are right that a Jedi can only have one Padawan at a time, but the Padawan isn't looking to kill his master and take over. A Padawan graduates to master himself/herself, and the master finds a new Padawan.

@MarioBrosJediKnightXD 14 күн бұрын

@@farakhhanif But it's the rule of two again. A Jedi Master can only have one Padawan, it applies to the Jedi code too the rule of two, besides the not killing the master part.

@Iamnotandre6 13 күн бұрын

The built up hate and anger would make him more strong of a sith

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

😈

@mobythemerpup1515 14 күн бұрын

I like that nurse hat.

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

Thanks 👌

@colindaniels945 14 күн бұрын

Other factors: 1. Palpatine realized that it would be years or even never to find someone as strong in the Force as Anakin was. 2, Palpatine realized that he needed a public face of his Empire, someone to press the proverbial flesh/interact with the public while he pursued his goals of learning as much as he could regarding Sith legends, especially the ones about immortality. If Palpatine had to do the things I mentioned earlier, he wouldn't have been able to go out pursuing Sith legends. He figured it was better to keep Vader alive so Vader could do the things Palpatine didn't want to

@StarWars_Insider 14 күн бұрын

Very good points 👍

@colindaniels945 13 күн бұрын

@@StarWars_Insider I believe point 1 is mentioned either in the Revenge Of The Sith novel or Dark Lord:The Rise Of Darth Vader

@dangdroideka3185 10 күн бұрын

I thought palpatine still remained the face of the empire. His plan was to have Anakin be his public figure since to them he was already beloved and viewed as a hero. But when he lost at Mustafar all that went out the window faster than Mace did, and Palpatine chose to mask his appearance to the public with holograms like we see him do in Rebels with Ezra.

@dangdroideka3185 10 күн бұрын

@colindaniels945 10 күн бұрын

@@dangdroideka3185 It was Vader, more than Palpatine,who interacted with the Empire's public

@shindarygermangodzilla3799 12 күн бұрын

“I spent too damn long getting you, whether you like it or not you lazy bastard”

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

😂

@jerrylou9285 14 күн бұрын

See Palps, that is the reason why you got thrown down the reactor

@user-wx8nq9xh1p 12 күн бұрын

Fr🤣🤣

@the_sith 12 күн бұрын

LOL😂

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

😂🤣😂

@tedcowart6524 12 күн бұрын

In a deleted scene, Palpatine mentions that he created Anakin by manipulating the Force. So in a way, he is his father, which he says himself.

@Ally.Cat.252 12 күн бұрын

Another apprentice? He had pretty much killed all force users so I don’t know where he’d find another one from? He’d have to wait for one to be born I guess.

@mr.s9783 13 күн бұрын

Palpatine’s entire goal since he met Anakin was to make him his apprentice. He knew Vader would be still be powerful, even if he was severely handicapped. Also, he was going to need another Sith Lord if he was going to dominate the galaxy the way he wanted.

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

He needed him even if he didn’t want him

@SlimDaSavage 11 күн бұрын

He did not think of letting him die to punish him for losing to Obi-Wan. After the Yoda fight Palpatine said ready my transport, I sense lord Vader is in trouble. He went there with intentions of helping him so how does what you say even make sense?

@ProphetOfDoubt 13 күн бұрын

I mean, he also designed the suit, so that Vader wouldn’t have the courage to overthrow him. Not dying by your apprentice is pretty good incentive

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

He made him suffer in that suit

@ProphetOfDoubt 12 күн бұрын

He sure did. And it made him a powerful Sith Lord

@GrampaSheevie 14 күн бұрын

So many of these videos are like "what is the reason Luke decided NOT to freeze to death."

@M12GProductions 13 күн бұрын

Short answer: Sunk-Cost Falacy.

@isaac1374 12 күн бұрын

Vader read the book… the gigs up palp

@sarahcook2818 14 күн бұрын

Wrong! “I was pleased that when Anakin is almost brutally destroyed, Palpatine is relieved to not only find him alive but also because he is Anakin Skywalker. There is one moment that George scripted in a rather casual way where I touch Anakin’s forehead. I think that’s really the only human moment we see from Palpatine-just a moment of sympathy and compassion for another human being. Not the usual ingredients of the Sith.” -Ian McDiarmid Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga: The Official Movie Companion

@sarahcook2818 8 күн бұрын

Also, you didn’t even use the right book for reference. Lol. It’s the junior novelization, (where everything is dumbed down for kids) where he thinks about leaving him.

@d.o6356 14 күн бұрын

Idk maybe because he is the chosen one😱

@MarioBrosJediKnightXD 14 күн бұрын

Right there, there is no reason for Palpatine to not clone Anakin while being Darth Vader...and use a inhibitor chip so he would not turn on him eventually. There should be a What If... series on this plot.

@codename1176 14 күн бұрын

Both legends and Disney canon cloning had great trouble producing force sensitive clones. It took palatine a while after the clone wars to succeed

@Landotp 12 күн бұрын

After spending 13 years grooming Anakin skywalker 💀 💀

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

😵😵😵

@_Emf0rever 22 сағат бұрын

Fr it sounds way more dirty than it needs to 💀

@MrTimPL 11 күн бұрын

Didn't Palpatine sensed that Anakin is in danger, but intentionally chose to let him lose to control him?

@robertmiller2786 12 күн бұрын

Sunk cost leads to another downfall

@hunterkiller1440 10 күн бұрын

Spent 20 years grooming Maul, Palpatine: OH no, he gone. Spent 10 years grooming Anakin, Palpatine: I'll save him.

@histguy101 8 күн бұрын

One was alive, one was thrown into a reactor shaft. Everyone knows that the reactor shaft is instant death

@raymondbond1468 12 күн бұрын

Nah. Palatine knew he needed vader alive so he could use him to turn like to the dark side. Father killing seems the easiest route after all

@bonbondesel 12 күн бұрын

Vader was better weaker for Palpatine. He knew that the siths work this way: the apprentice will try to kill him to take his position or the master will kill the apprentice at a moment or another. Palpatine took the advantage from Vader's defeat against Obi Wan. The other reason is that it's better for the apprentice to be in constent suffering and pain to fully embrace hate and rage, going deeper inside the dark side.

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

Yeah he really did take advantage of

@He-Rex 11 күн бұрын

For shits and giggles....

@joserolon4444 12 күн бұрын

Sideous had to save Vader because the prophecy of the chosen one was fulfilled... One master (sideous and Yoda) and one apprentice (Vader and obi-wan) on both sides and order 66 ensured a replacement was impossible

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

That’s an interesting way to look at it

@ReidMeyer-dr1mb 10 күн бұрын

“Grooming” was NOT the right word 😭

@venomfan2020 12 күн бұрын

Damn, Palps is a child-groomer 💀

@carscollection17carsgaming16 12 күн бұрын

Yes and that's why we love that's why we love copy he certainly yeah he is very much a groomer touching Him in many placesn many place

@carscollection17carsgaming16 12 күн бұрын

Sith name given to him by dark places and all the set they call him Lord child ghoomar

@carscollection17carsgaming16 12 күн бұрын

Him and his master groomed many children

@rjagad 10 күн бұрын

Imagine if bro did this legit. Would probably take like... 3 months to release? (1-2 shinies per day)?

@CrabbyO 14 күн бұрын

I played in the school band my freshman year of high school. When my sofmore year came up.I had to choose between Geography and Band. I chose Geography, and my band director came to my house to try to convince my parents to make me change my mind. 🤭 I'm basically Darth Vader.😂😂😂❤

@StarWars_Insider 14 күн бұрын

Wow 🤯

@mimoe7587 14 күн бұрын

Why Geography? That was an elective class or after school club?

@meatsauce4772 14 күн бұрын

@@mimoe7587might have been an ap geography class. I took an ap world history class back in my sophomore year of hs and the teacher assigned such an absurd amount of busy work that would’ve taken an extra 15-20 hours a week had I decided to actually do it. Instead I decided to not do it and drop the class so I could keep running on the cross country team and have a life. To be honest when I switched to the honors class I felt like I learned more in that one anyways.

@user-im7db9kn6u 11 күн бұрын

Becuz no one can get rid of the chosen one ☝️ should you be Palpatine yourself 😆

@Ben-ky8yb 11 күн бұрын

Who else was there? He had just killed pretty much the whole Jedi order

@JordanWilliams_Link7702 13 күн бұрын

Keeping the villain*

@MsGhoulz 14 күн бұрын

Sunken cost fallacy....

@Rab-pi8cf 14 күн бұрын

Simple he needed a good attack dog

@StarWars_Insider 14 күн бұрын

🐶

@dancooke8811 12 күн бұрын

So in a way Palpatine was a pedaphile

@StarWars_Insider 12 күн бұрын

🤷‍♂️

@albaniacommunistcouncil5705 8 күн бұрын

Also like the dozens if not hundreds of surviving Jedi wandering around the galaxy, now see likely none of them could actually kill or destroy the empire, but it could still do damage to the empire and slow its progress. Also Vader (in my mainly uneducated opinion) helped keep all these Jedi divided, because they knew if they let their location be known they could expect a visit from Vader. Although yes storm troopers could kill these Jedi, Vader was just, much more effective.

@clementwang7097 8 күн бұрын

Palpetine had no other candidates to be his apprentice before he met luke, so he saved Anakin.

@deralbtraumritter8573 8 күн бұрын

That and he’s essentially his Father. According to Disney Tie In Comic, Pappy Palps influenced the metaclorines in the force and made Shevi(?) I’m terrible with names. He basically stalked her on her way home. So when Rey and Ben kiss (I don’t exactly they are to one another, but Ben is Annie’s grandson an Pappy Palps essentially made Annie, while Pappy Palps had a lame child and then a force sensitive granddaughter ). Side note: the Jedi were so arrogant in the movies: saying The Choosen on wud bring balance to the force. Then it was he who’d stop them then it was he who’d eliminate the Sith. But Annie did bring balance to the force by bringing the Jedi down to t he Sith. The Sith even knew more than two was enough and more would just be sheer arrogance , chaos, incompetence and stupidity. I think that both sides were meant to end, and ones who could balance both wud replace the Jedi and the Sith. I thought his even before the last minute McGuffin Esq “Diad Of the Force”.

@brewmaster2912 10 күн бұрын

Because Anakin needed to be in the Original Trilogy and this was a prequel

@bastionsea2829 11 күн бұрын

I thought it was pretty simple. He knew Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force, which implies he would kill Jedi

@histguy101 8 күн бұрын

How does killing the Jedi bring balance to the force?

@bastionsea2829 8 күн бұрын

@@histguy101 there has to be equal good and bad Only a handful of Sith and an entire temple of Jedi

@brutalstuff1653 11 күн бұрын

And his influence of Darth Malgus was the other reason as well

@philiplombardo4332 10 күн бұрын

If he would have left Vader for dead then order 66 would have been for nothing.

@KingJero1313 8 күн бұрын

He knew that Padme would die because of Anakin in his anger he was manipulating him the whole time but he had a attachment like the video said Padme if obi wan hadn't showed up padme would have been able to talk to him

@iamanevutable981 4 күн бұрын

"did have his reasons for keeping the Chosen One..." Because he's...the Chosen One?

@Canada1st___ 8 күн бұрын

Darth Vader could be unstoppable if he didn’t try to force jump over Obi wan like Obi wan did to Darth Maul which is why Obi wan said don’t try it

@everinghall8622 11 күн бұрын

Vader was too useful to let die, even if he was completely crippled he was the best general the republic had, and inspired foerce loyalty from the clone troopers. His strength in the force was only a small part of why you would want vader on your side

@nickgirdwood3082 6 күн бұрын

So in the end, Anakin had the very thing he needed to be a Jedi Master? No attachments? Ironic, isn't it?

@shantoreywilkins651 9 күн бұрын

🎁

@albaestrada8603 3 күн бұрын

It seems like a loophole and writing mistake if compared to reality circumstances. Sure maybe vader helps invade the universe quicker but he was a threat even if only somewhat compared to whoever was left in the known universe. Palpatine is ruthless and has killed his allies before for mistakes and weaknesses and failing him and it falls in line with his character not this mercy crap he should anakin in the prequels. At the very least he could have killed him after a few years. Just because the jedi were dead doesn't mean force sensitive users were still being made by the force overtime. He could have trained another. I mean within palpatines lifetime he seen his master who was elite, yoda, obi won, quid and dooku, mace, luke and darth, maul as very powerful users who blossomed so others could have been found as it was not some anomaly. Don't forget princess leau was full of luke level potential. Based on how the story played put through the prequels, it was out of character to save him. It was also stupid how darth vader was so loyal for so long when his love of his life never got resurrected. How long can you string along someone without losing patience?