Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?

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Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?

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Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?
On April 21 1980, Rosie Ruiz was awarded first place female at the Boston Marathon. 8 days later, she was stripped of that title after it was declared that she had cheated, and in fact had only run the final mile of the race.
40 years later, I wanted to understand how and why did Rosie Ruiz cheat the Boston Marathon?
My sincere thanks to writer Will Cockerell and broadcaster Toni Reavis for their authority and input on this fascinating story.
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@Artilectual 3 жыл бұрын

Well, that was incredible. Great storytelling. Bravo, well done.

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s a pretty crazy story - thank you

@christophermorgan3261 3 жыл бұрын

Funny how we remember her name but not the real winner.

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

That's a great point Christopher - often it's the unusual or the more 'out of the ordinary' aspects after years of an event that are more widely remembered. Excellent surname by the way. Harry

@christophermorgan3261 3 жыл бұрын

@@thisisjogon Thanks Harry. I was in Boston at the time but didn't care for the Marathon and fanatic jogging craze then at its peak, esp with "preppies" which Boston is full of. Mor is a phoneme for the sea, gan for les gens, "people", Celts, the "people by the sea", we somewhere have Welsh ancestry. Wales is a wonderful place to visit, by the way. I was welcomed home by so many folks!

@bidmcms3 Жыл бұрын

Jacqueline Gareau

@jbsavluk6691 8 ай бұрын

It's the same thing with Tonya harding people remember her but for all the wrong reasons.

@SuperYtc1 4 ай бұрын

We don’t remember the real names of any winners of that long ago though. If she didn’t cheat, no one would still know the name of the real winner.

@marksprinkle Жыл бұрын

Running a mile feels like a marathon to me too.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Ha 🏃‍♂️

@kagemaru259 3 жыл бұрын

Who remembers on Fresh Prince when Geoffrey ran the marathon but got caught taking a cab to the finish line? Geoffery Butler- THE SHAME OF A NATION!

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

🏃‍♂️ 🚖 oh Geoffrey Thank you for watching Kage

@stoundingresults Жыл бұрын

Hey Jeffrey Get me a sandwich...or take a cab.

@carlcounts1 Жыл бұрын

I've always been a little fascinated about this story. I'm a little surprised she never came clean. I learned as a child that lying is SO exhausting. She could never pull that off today.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting

@jspaingreene6350 Жыл бұрын

It IS exhausting! Definitely points to someone with serious problems.

@wvu05 5 ай бұрын

Considering the rest of her life story, she may well have been a pathological liar.

@EbonAvatar Жыл бұрын

As an amateur marathon runner myself, the idea of cheating like this makes me angry beyond measure. The best part of finishing a marathon is not the congratulations, but the knowledge that you did it, that you actually ran 26.2 miles. I can't imagine cheating and lying about it like this, the whole time knowing you didn't do it

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

wild isn't it

@wvu05 5 ай бұрын

Indeed. I ran two in a very slow time at 18 and 19, and I haven't run one since because of how out of shape I was leading up to the second (you could choose at the race for the latter if you wanted to run the full or half at around the 10-mile mark, and if my roommate wasn't cheering me on at that exact spot, I almost certainly would have decided "this isn't my day, so I'll just do a half"), but I'd _never_ think of doing a shortcut and claim I ran the whole thing.

@pants1359 Жыл бұрын

What a well put together mini doc. Bravo

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it

@bev9708 Жыл бұрын

BRAVO... that is the best video about Rosie Ruiz I've seen, and your emphasis on compassionate understanding rather than superior judgement is an example to us all!!!! I'm extremely moved!!! I'm so happy to subscribe and check out more of your channel!!!

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you Bev

@dyer618 Жыл бұрын

Liars caught in a large lie, tend to dig in further into their lie. They rarely fess up and admit they have lied.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

It’s amazing isn’t it

@raywest3834 Жыл бұрын

A similar story of cheating occurred in the 1968 solo yacht race around the world. The cheater, Donald Crowhurst, had also not intended to win, with all the scrutiny that would entail, but the leading boat broke its mast on the final leg, and Crowhurst's trimaran 'The Teignmouth Electron' slipped into first place, with Crowhurst descending into stress-induced madness. The film 'Deep Water' is a fascinating look at a family man in desperate circumstances, trying to avoid financial ruin, with an unsuitable boat, who gambled his life and reputation, and lost them both.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@teddy1234599 3 жыл бұрын

I RAN BOSTON THAT YEAR. I ran qualifying times other years; but not that year. But, I was in the area and so went there and ran it. Highlights: 1) Pre-race, I went 1/4 mile up the course and took a picture of "Boston" Bill Rodgers going by; (then jogged back to the start line and started running from last place. 2) I passed over 2,000 runners (I counted along the way). 3) I broke 3:00:00 - so it was a great run for me at that time. (My PR: 2:39:00 in 1981, San Diego Heart of San Diego Marathon - I finished 9th overall there). 4) THE THRILL: Going past Wesley (Women's) College: both sides of the road were packed with women screaming their heads off for us - neither before nor since have i experienced anything like it! 5) Totally unexpected, there was chaos and confusion at the finish area when I got there - lots of people knew there was something wrong. BY FAR THE strangest post-race scene I ever witnessed. Great elation for most of the runners; mixed with disbelief and anger over Ruiz. (Pictures of her at that time showed a woman NOT at all in condition to run a marathon; much less a world-class one - her thighs were loose / out of shape - like, if she even ran, it wasn't much or serious.)

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this Pablo, a fascinating read. I appreciate you watching! Harry

@teddy1234599 3 жыл бұрын

@@thisisjogon You're most welcome.

@elizabethgould994 3 жыл бұрын

If you have a TikTok you should story time this

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethgould994 I do not. I tried TikTok but it wasn’t quite the right format, perhaps I need a TikTok manager

@woopiwoo1 Жыл бұрын

This was very cool to read thank you!!

@bettstp 3 жыл бұрын

If she had waited another 20 minutes and crossed in 2:51 she would have probably got away with it

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

A great point Timothy - mad to think Cheers for watching

@sean2015 Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that she never intended to finish first - supposedly she just wanted to finish in the Top 10 and get her name in the papers. But she mis-timed it and jumped into the race too early, thinking the lead female runner had already passed her.

@SuperYtc1 4 ай бұрын

Which makes you wonder, imagine how many people have cheated and gotten away with it.

@jspaingreene6350 Жыл бұрын

I just want to clarify - did they ever acknowledge Jacqueline Gareau in any way??? It would be so nice to see them do a formal recognition even now. If Jacqueline Gareau is on the record books, did they give her a medal and a wreath at any point? The prizes aren't so important, but I'm curious. Thank you for an interesting documentary - very well done.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Believe so, but worth researching. Thank you for watching it’s appreciated

@jbsavluk6691 Жыл бұрын

I know after Rosie Ruiz was officially disqualified they did another ceremony where they presented the wreath and medal to her. But unfortunately it's not the same thing as if she crossed the finish and been declared the winner. Like Lance Armstrong look at all the people who came in second because of him.

@BigCrashTrackLoop 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Good editing too. Really like the way you cut back and forth between the interviewees.

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for commenting

@pete6705 2 жыл бұрын

I have a fascination with famous liars. My favorites are Elizabeth Holmes, Tania Head, and Rosie Ruiz

@thisisjogon 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you watching Pete

@Heccasav Жыл бұрын

Casey Anthony was the worst

@TheDizzleHawke Жыл бұрын

I love the editing! Well done sir!

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

@g4wfr 3 жыл бұрын

A great & interesting video Harry - thank you.

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Richard, I appreciate the support very much

@bfgolf Жыл бұрын

Great job on the video, all the main points in 10 mins.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@sallylovesparkrun 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Really enjoyed that, Harry, thank you.

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sally

@BruceLeroyUK Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t aware of this particular cheater. Great mini doc.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you watching

@geoffhennessy275 Жыл бұрын

I remember standing at the corner of Hereford St and Boylston and noticing the ADIDAS shirt and thinking “no serious runner wears that.”

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Amazing Geoff

@kevincruise3521 3 жыл бұрын

This is the best video I've seen on The Marathon Cheater. Too long, straight to the details

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@hellogoodbye4061 Жыл бұрын

Ruiz died a few years back, I heard, and she stuck to her story right to the end.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, quite a crazy story. Thank you for watching

@riddlescom Жыл бұрын

I watched the twilight zone marathon in 1980 . I got through it. But I was exhausted after.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Crazy

@stanleyhape8427 Жыл бұрын

Such a crazy story. Thanks for filling in the details. 👍 This theme has been replayed in so many sitcoms.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Littlejoys24 9 ай бұрын

I love this video, I’d love to see more running history videos from you Harry - you’re a great storyteller

@thisisjogon 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Olivia, there are some ideas floating around

@cormaconeill1 2 жыл бұрын

Class video Harry

@thisisjogon 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that Callum

@alolkoydesigns Жыл бұрын

I didn't know that part of the story. That is so sad

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

@patactually Жыл бұрын

Not sure how I got here. But a very interesting story!

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Glad you got here and thank you 🙏

@writeralbertlanier3434 Жыл бұрын

I'm aware of some Marathon winners but never heard of Rosie Ruiz. Interesting video.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@jess4metoo Жыл бұрын

I remember in 1980 Genuine Risk(a filly) had won the Kentucky Derby and Johnny Carson joked that perhaps she had also cheated using the subway.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Great bit of history

@wvu05 5 ай бұрын

Seeing the way this unfolded and Cloney's reluctance to disqualify her, I can't help but wonder if he was gun shy because of the way they so badly mishandled the Katherine Switzer run in 1967.

@thisisjogon 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@writeralbertlanier3434 Жыл бұрын

The Rosie Ruiz affair really seems like a script for a Hollywod movie. In fact, this really should be a movie based on what ive seen here.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Perhaps one day it will. Thank you for watching

@writeralbertlanier3434 Жыл бұрын

@@thisisjogon Yeah maybe . You are welcome.

@megofiachra3247 Жыл бұрын

Your explanation makes a lot of sense.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@Miakel Жыл бұрын

That's one lie that went way out of hand.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

A crazy story

@Slop_Dogg Жыл бұрын

I remember this story!

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

It’s quite mad

@rucianapollard7098 Жыл бұрын

I was 4 in 1980

@sandraandrews9907 5 ай бұрын

I do remember this very well in my teens. I just was wanting to know WHY?! If she had just admitted her fault, her life could've gone better. Such a shame that Ms. Ruiz took that lie to her grave. Also, I felt bad for Ms. Garceu (sic). To be the rightful winner and not getting the rightful spotlight, her just 🎉🎉. She knew what an interval was. She was the rightful winner.

@thisisjogon 3 ай бұрын

A crazy story, thank you for watching

@alexraymond5572 Жыл бұрын

this was tremendous. perfect ppl to interview.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@earljohnson2676 Жыл бұрын

I ran track in high school in the 80’s south of Boston oh this is all coming back forget about a lot of this especially after the Tom Brady era

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing and watching!

@simpatico4004 2 жыл бұрын

He sounds like the editor in the first Spider-Man, one of the commentators

@thisisjogon 2 жыл бұрын

My voice or one of the gentlemen I interview?

@LaLaBrave 9 ай бұрын

Idk how i got here but thanks youtube algorithm. Gotta say i love the understanding from the others runners here. No vitriol or demonizing hate. What she did was terrible but she probably was just a deeply troubled woman who got in way over her head.

@thisisjogon 8 ай бұрын

Cheers for sharing

@Shinobi33 Жыл бұрын

Not the Cuban we want representing our people. I do hope she found peace before and after she passed.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

🏃‍♂️ ☮️

@richarddixon7855 Жыл бұрын

Certainly a big story on NY news at the time.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Yup

@gerardcooney1810 Жыл бұрын

Would make a great Movie.

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

It would

@christopherperez6761 2 жыл бұрын

this is a screenplay

@thisisjogon 2 жыл бұрын

Genuinely agree

@SurvivorIce Жыл бұрын

Had she waited and let couple women pass before jumbing into the race and finish 4th or 5th. Would people notice she cheated?

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Far less likely, but who knows

@northernninjarunner5506 3 жыл бұрын

Wow what a sad story

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

indeed

@siaracastic2515 3 жыл бұрын

I love this.

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

🧡

@M-DVD 3 күн бұрын

And Did She even fake to be almost dying-tired while crossing the finish? woah

@thisisjogon 2 күн бұрын

It’s a crazy story

@DonGivani Жыл бұрын

" What is an interval ?"

@thisisjogon Жыл бұрын

Crazy, thank you for watching

@lisapratt329 3 жыл бұрын

Heard about her on The Goldbergs 😆

@thisisjogon 3 жыл бұрын

Lisa, I have no idea what that is, but I love that you watched this, thank you. Harry

@tellysantos2392 2 жыл бұрын

lol that's how i found out as well

@papadew1964 2 жыл бұрын

me too

@NastyWoman1979 Жыл бұрын

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