Why did the American Political Parties Switch?
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Mr. Beat finally tackles the complicated story of the Southern Strategy and the Party Switch...aka The Big Switch...aka The Big Lie. Wait, the Big Lie? Some people think it's made up? Really?
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@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
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@bruhtify9150 2 жыл бұрын
legend
@arielkarat4338 2 жыл бұрын
the Democrats are the bad guys and the Republicans are the good guys
@tijojose7966 2 жыл бұрын
Video came out 35 minutes ago. Mr. Beat wrote this comment 8 hours ago. Time Travel confirmed.
@griffongaming4474 2 жыл бұрын
The whole concept of a political party switch is actually false, the Democrats and Republicans are literally the same party from a policy perspective(which should be obvious to everyone since they both split from the Democratic Republican party) the only difference between the two parties is superficial stuff primarily culture war based topics, if we completely ignored the culture war everyone would realize how completely trash these two parties are and would find a "third party" to support instead
@griffongaming4474 2 жыл бұрын
@@arielkarat4338 see my comment above ^
@John-tr5hn 10 ай бұрын
One thing you failed to mention is that politics was more regional before, so the politician from both parties tended to look the same in the same region. For example, the Republican Party has always been strong in New England (look at how many GOP governors and senators they've had even recently), but New England Republicans tended to be liberal, like their Democratic counterparts. Similarly, Democrats from the Deep South tended to be conservative, like their Republican counterparts. In general, until about 1994, Republican politicians from New England were much more liberal than Democratic politicians from the Deep South.
@dsxa918 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying, that makes sense in the manner or style of an explanation I've heard before. One thing I've heard before is that the Civil Rights determined especially, "defined after so many years", the way Republicans held black rights - generally speaking - above the belt while Democrats formed the KKK... there was a way of interpreting the questions, bringing about these results... let me think or remember
@hollywoodroux9154 9 ай бұрын
got in reading recs where i can learn more?
@skoop651 9 ай бұрын
@@dsxa918 and
@highgrounder 9 ай бұрын
This is still going on to an extent in New England, with Republican governors such as Phil Scott in Vermont and Chris Sununu in New Hampshire. One could also argue politicians such as Senators Joe Manchin and John Tester from West Virginia and Montana respectively are also a part of this trend.
@GreenArt4 9 ай бұрын
@@highgrounder Tester no, but Gov Andy Beshear in KY and until recently AG Jim Hood in MS. Manchin is probably the last southern Democrat.
@lazerbeam134 9 ай бұрын
Remember friends whenever you hear someone mention "states' rights" always be sure to ask them "states' rights to what?"
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@tauntingeveryone7208 Does your State own you? I've never heard of a State owning someone. Unless I'm missing something?
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@tauntingeveryone7208 We fought a war to prevent State's rights to owning people?? Bahahahahahaha
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@tauntingeveryone7208 Read your own comments bro. You aren't making a lot of sense. I don't know what to tell ya.
@baron6588 9 ай бұрын
@@Dougie1969 I don’t know what to tell you racist pro-slavery bigot.
@zkuru19 7 ай бұрын
Just admit you’re pro federal overreach and oppression and support minimizing regional differences in order to put everyone under one totalitarian boot.
@susanheath5467 Жыл бұрын
As an ex-History teacher I really appreciate the clarity of your stories, and your presentation. Wish I had been as good!
@tonyfrederickson6692 10 ай бұрын
really lol
@markbeckens 7 ай бұрын
Former student?
@brandonbenson6804 4 ай бұрын
To bad it’s full of crap
@markbeckens 4 ай бұрын
@@brandonbenson6804 in 1860s the South voted Democrat and the North had a new party called the Republican party, which was for big government and civil rights. Now the South votes Republican and the North is Democrat and votes for big government and civil rights. Don't let facts get in the way of your ignorance!
@bethflynn4278 4 ай бұрын
I was confused by this since Lincoln was a republican. So I did a study of our history and saw that Mr. Beat is correct. The democratic presidents in the 20th century did more for civil rights, and for Americans in general, than the republican presidents.
@dankcoyote 3 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about Republicans is when they claim they can’t be racist because Lincoln was a Republican. Amazing how quickly people can help inform on whether or not you should take anything they say seriously.
@spikenn616 2 ай бұрын
oh oh oh... now do affirmative action. You can't be racist because you alleviate your white guilt by helping people you think you are superior have a better life because you don't think they can actually do better if they were asked to meet the challenge of standards.
@nooblord1233 2 ай бұрын
literally no republican says that ever. Amazing how I can figure out that you care more about "owning the conservatives" than having an actual discussion and recognizing that the truth isnt black and white
@markhennessy7598 Ай бұрын
BS
@gballdadon312 Ай бұрын
@@nooblord1233 they actually do lol. They say republicans freed the slaves
@nooblord1233 Ай бұрын
@@gballdadon312 which they did actually but thats not the point of the original comment anyway
@adamr4198 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beat totally nailed me at 10:00. I was cleaning the dishes, it made me nervous laugh. 😂 How did he know!?!
@dustinpetersen7730 Жыл бұрын
I was listening at work, because, you know, I'm at work. He got me too!
@Crowens Жыл бұрын
@@dustinpetersen7730 same lol
@Profligateslayer Жыл бұрын
@@CadaltosCorner You copy-pasted your talking points on the wrong comment, bruh
@JZTechEngineering Жыл бұрын
@@CadaltosCorner Understand how people think that that prop was racist but not really. Let me use a school analogy. If it was harder for single parent children to get good grades and it would hurt their chances at getting into collage. The solution to this was to make it easier to have single parent student to get into collage. Now in reality African Americans are generally poorer that white Americans.The solution that came up was affirmative action, Now most people would say this is unfair because students should get there based on work. But the way we measure this SAT scores and grades have been proven that AA students have a harder time achieving the same grade. So without any intervention we would have white students who work less get into collage based on those scores that African Americans would find hard to achieve. that is the point of affirmative action
@PoliticsMS Жыл бұрын
i was washing my hands
@nicklee8160 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna hurt a lot of PragerU fanboy feelings.
@redblaze8700 2 жыл бұрын
But facts don’t care about your feelings 😎
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions 2 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell in these comments, it already has! Of course, they are exactly what this video says they are: straw-man arguments and political rhetoric!
@oblitusunum6979 2 жыл бұрын
what most mean by "the switch" is claiming that the Republicans are now the racist party and the democrats are the heroes. Its a propaganda piece used to point the finger and ignore anything you say with the accusation "you're racist". Its literally the song and dance done constantly
@kauswekazilimani3736 Жыл бұрын
@@oblitusunum6979 It goes both ways. Most Republican responses I hear aren't like your comment. It's more along the lines of "the switch never happened, you guys are the actual racists. We're Lincolns party." Everyone just talks over each other.
@amaramzk Жыл бұрын
Nick Lee .. only people taking this video at face value are politically inept
@Tkeist890 3 ай бұрын
I know this is late but thank you Mr. Beat. I’ve heard “do you know which party actually ended slavery?” far too many times and having to explain that ideas change is so trivial it’s exhausting.
@Abattoir23 2 ай бұрын
It's insane anyone tries to argue against the switch. I mean, who flies Confederate flag? Protects Confederate statues? Who does the KKK vote for? The Confederate states are almost all Red today and teach the "silver lining" of slavery. Willful ignorance is the only explanation.
@TheGymBroSkii 4 күн бұрын
Neither party really resembles what they were in their origins. It’s almost entirely redundant to argue that Lincoln’s policies better represent democratic policies. The main constant is that republicans are more independent and for individual or local government and that democrats are more for government control
@christopher3834 9 ай бұрын
Please don’t stop making factual and informational content. They should just be showing these videos in school for history class.
@GeneralOgueri 5 ай бұрын
@@lesleyt8984when you forget mr beat is a history teacherr
@JustMe-gw3eo 4 ай бұрын
That would go well with all that other bs taught in school... this dude is wrong. He's just repeating the leftist lie
@markhennessy7598 Ай бұрын
This video is literal propaganda and leaves out so much information it isn't even funny.
@gballdadon312 Ай бұрын
@@markhennessy7598like what?
@aauwhatitdo1582 2 жыл бұрын
I would add that many people forget how much of a state's vote is influenced by what each candidate will do for their state. When the south was uber racist, guys like Wallace won states, despite being fairly unpopular elsewhere. Carter won the south in 76 because he was a fellow southerner, with southerner values, and was southern baptist. Goldwater won many southern states because the feeling of betrayal felt around Johnson. We also have to understand that back in the day, the political party meant less.
@The.One.True.B 2 жыл бұрын
Political parties still don't mean much but people assume more from the label. That happens with lots of things these days. People on both sides see groups more than individuals.
@tonyetzu 2 жыл бұрын
"Southern values" like segregation.
@The.One.True.B 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyetzu you'd be surprised how many people in the south aren't actually racist and how many people outside the south actually are.
@tonyetzu 2 жыл бұрын
@@The.One.True.B Wouldn't surprise me.
@The.One.True.B 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyetzu so why are you trying to label all (or most) southerners as segregationists?
@hatlesscoati3610 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen so many people say it didn't happen, but also seen so many people sum it up as "Richard Nixon used the Southern strategy so the parties flipped immediately afterwards", when both are so blatantly missing the entire story
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
You got it
@sissiroxie 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically people who liked Nixon don’t like how he got us off the gold standard and made all of the losses in privacy in banking.
@dafuq355 2 жыл бұрын
True very very very true
@Xpwnxage 2 жыл бұрын
Like most things in life, there's nuance involved.
@michaelcozzi9637 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 The major significance is that while Nixon worked slowly behind the scenes to enforce desegregation, he did not vocally support it. Instead he favored socially conservative racial dogwhistles such as appeals to "Law and Order."
@Murpie2u Жыл бұрын
That was an excellent presentation!! Thank you for making it so clear!
@AkProdiG 7 ай бұрын
Never stop doing what you do, the visuals are very crisp and keep my ADD mind glued to the screen
@superduck6456 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously I haven’t seen the video yet, but from my understanding, it wasn’t simply a “party switch.” I call it party evolution. There were always conservative and liberal factions of both parties that slowly won out over time. Let’s see if I’m right.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Party evolution is probably a more accurate way to put it.
@pictureperfect3211 2 жыл бұрын
Also the integration of non-white males into the parties (Mr. Beat didn’t include how this changed the fundamentals of each party) that aided on the changes. The modern Democratic Party have a massive number of African American elected officials in it. That’s obviously going to change the core values of the party, in a way that the Republican’s large white elected membership does as well. That’s how you know the right is lying that the switch didn’t happened.
@caydcrow5161 2 жыл бұрын
I like this a lot! I definitely think we should shift to use this more accurate way of understanding the two parties. A switch is stupid and didn’t happen. I just see it as a weird way of understanding how policies and people change. People don’t just wake up one day and have totally different ideology. Don’t see how a switch benefits or hurts parties in the modern day but whatever lol
@HVACSoldier 2 жыл бұрын
@SuperDuck64 That’s what happened over time. Today, there are very few “political machines.” Liberals took over the Democratic Party, and moved to the left. Conservatives took over the Republican Party, and moved to the right.
@triple_x_r_tard 2 жыл бұрын
@@pictureperfect3211 :|
@writingwyvern6065 2 жыл бұрын
What the actual fuck, I was multi tasking man. Didn't have to call me out doing the dishes like that
@ZackaryAsAlways 11 ай бұрын
Thank you MrBeat, it’s great that you can give a very good history lesson while not trying to get to semi-political. Thanks so much your like a second history class for me 😊
@renata-tsekhanovetskaya 9 ай бұрын
How can this be covered in any way without it being inherently political? it is quite literally about politics, and MrBeat covers almost exclusively the history of Politics. Do you mean to say that he remained objective without divulging his own personal opinion? ps sorry if it is a misunderstanding english is not my first language so it may be a dialect thing
@oneofus6924 4 ай бұрын
it blows me away how many people are still so ignorant to recent US history.
@TylerSmith-gj1ui 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Beat for making me enjoy learning about history outside of school! Despite being in college, it feels like reading a book that’s not for a class… you don’t realize how cool history is when you’re not required to throw info back up on a test.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you think learning history is cool. This always makes my day.
@dafuq355 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beat is so cool learn more they click on the funds up and I'll tell you more history
@ryanchristopher8848 2 жыл бұрын
@@iammrbeat you are a joke
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@@ryanchristopher8848 if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all
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@@ryanchristopher8848 don’t insult my god!
@jeffburnett2905 2 жыл бұрын
When my father, from a small southern county in northern Florida, registered to vote in the state in the mid 80s, he was automatically registered as Democrat by the old fart behind the counter. When he asked what if he had wanted to be a Republican, the old guy just old him “But then you can’t vote in the election” My dad was uber confused, until my grandpa explained the old guy meant the Democratic primary, because the Dems were so assumed to just automatically win any election where they were, your vote in the vote in the primary was seen as more valuable than the vote in the general election.
@Thobeian 2 жыл бұрын
They still are, just less people get involved in their local politics on either end of the spectrum.
@glenparks5175 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like the Republican party of today
@woodchuck003 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thobeian if you live in a partisan district that leans left your statement is correct. Or are you trying to push the progressives conspiracy theory that there are millions of far-left people who don't vote because no candidate is far left enough. If people paid more attention to local politics there would probably be more moderates. However both parties seem to believe in federal supremacy.
@simplegarak 2 жыл бұрын
It was almost like that for me when I registered and that was the turn of the century.
@frisco21 2 жыл бұрын
The system of "registering" to vote is corrupt and frankly un-American. We should emulate Canada and permit people to vote as their conscience dictates for any fielded candidate, without regard to "party" affiliation. One person, one vote, for whomever you choose. So simple, so democratic. The Founders would agree.
@marginalhero4783 Жыл бұрын
It bothers me when Republicans think they have this "gotcha" moment when they ask what party Lincoln was from. Then they state he was a republican and think it makes any kind of point about the current Republican party.
@josephimperatrice5552 Жыл бұрын
Donald Trump's Alt-Right Groyper MAGAtard base would call Abraham Lincoln a woke cuckservative RINO for ending the enslavement of Blacks!
@MrChoco409 Жыл бұрын
@@josephimperatrice5552 hell of a word salad. Touch grass
@java4653 Жыл бұрын
Just remind them Lincoln wanted all the slaves to leave. While President. Then tell them *he quit the Party* and was reelected on the "Unity Party" ticket. And no, the Democrats had nothing to de with the founding of the KKK, that was drunk, war losing confederate soldiers. It did not last & was a taken down by one of it's founders. But when the KKK was refounded, Republicans embraced it as the Party of White Anglo Saxon Protestants.
@akallstar5 Жыл бұрын
It’s a gotcha in the sense that you believe the republicans have roots in racism when they do not, evolutionary and otherwise. There was no “switch.”
@biggibbs4678 Жыл бұрын
More like you have some delusional conspiracy theory to justify the democratic parties horrible past.
@Lukastar1 Жыл бұрын
This was actually REALLY helpful but this will always be one of the hardest aspects of American politics for me to fully wrap my head around
@rudiruttger 11 ай бұрын
It's a case of correlation not being causation.
@Dom-vo9ni 11 ай бұрын
Because it never happened.😂.
@rudiruttger 11 ай бұрын
@@Dom-vo9ni watch out, you're going to face the same screeching that Ukrainians do when they dispel Kremlin talking points.
@freepro 10 ай бұрын
@@Dom-vo9ni Man gave a detailed example of what happened. There are literally videos on youtube from that era where people on both sides are talking about this who were in politics. You have historians conforming this, newspaper articles but since it does not align with the regurgitated lies you filled you dense head with , all of a sudden it " never happened". Lmao. The fact that this eats at you so bad you have to lie to yourself makes me smile so freaking hard. It's hilarious and so so so sad at the same. I'm actually embarrassed for you. Cause no matter what, I know in your head you know it's the truth and it's eating you Lmmaaoo. This is great man.
@casteanpreswyn7528 9 ай бұрын
@@rudiruttgerI'm glad we agree that the republican party and the kremlin are basically the same.
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Regardless of wether or not the switch happened, it's of no consequence for the party colors. A lot of people say that the reason why, unlike in european countries, the conservatives are red and the liberals are blue, is this switch, however, the association of party colors actually goes back to i believe 1980, and it wasn't even inspired by the parties themselves. Basically, in that years electoral period, NBC decided to cover the election live, featuring a map of each state that would be colored in as the vote is decided. Notably, however, this map featured the republicans in blue and the democrats in red, and there is no specific reason why they did this, other than blue and red being colors that are easy to tell apart. When a competitor did the same thing 4 years later, they decided to color the republicans red and the democrats blue, to set themselves apart, and when other competitors also decided to do the same thing, over time, red republicans and blue democrats won out over the original coloring that NBC used.
@nikoking825 9 ай бұрын
The republican red/ Democrat blue really solidified in 2000 when news media all adopted that use and it entered popular imagination of "red" and "blue" states.
@dashkostka9281 9 ай бұрын
it's also because CBS used "Red for Reagan" and it caught on
@Riley_Mundt 9 ай бұрын
I always understood it as the 2000 election making it the standard because of how long that election got extended due to litigation.
@almightysamwhich4203 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting because here in Australia the conservatives are called the liberal party and are blue. And the progressives are called the Labor party and are red. Confusing? Yes it is
@BS-vx8dg 9 ай бұрын
@@dashkostka9281 That's not supported by the facts (though CBS did use Red for the GOP at that time).
@KaiserBob99 2 жыл бұрын
Often times I see on the internet "but the parties switched platforms!" used as a response for, let's say, criticizing Democratic policies from long ago. It's way too simple to just say the two parties flipped and did a 180. I agree there was a realignment in the South specifically, and I agree with you that it wasn't like some people say - just happened all of a sudden. Democrats still held a majority of Southern congressional seats until the 90s. I think the best idea is to look at it like this - both Democrats and Republicans were massive coalitions of diverse ideologies. They still are coalitions, but they ditched, at least partially, some of their wings. Everyone knows conservative Democrats, and to a lesser extent liberal Republicans still exist; they haven't gone away, they just lost a lot of influence. Yes, the Democratic Party moved more to the left and the Republican Party moved more to the right, but saying that today's Democrats are the Republicans from the 1950s (or the other way around), just feels very dishonest. Like you said "party evolution" sounds much, much more accurate than "party switch". Obviously there was a shift and a realignment but those always happen. Just not on as large of a scale.
@survivalsuiters5982 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree the Republican party and the democratic party have both shifted much more liberal especially on social issues. Democrats just shifted so extremely compared to Republicans it make them look far right. But in actuality trump would be liberal back in the 80's or 90's while biden would have been extremely leftist.
@andrewbrady6154 2 жыл бұрын
@@survivalsuiters5982 What you just wrote is nonsense !
@andrewbrady6154 2 жыл бұрын
@@survivalsuiters5982 ..... check the Overton windows of the U.S. compared to all the other Western Democracies of the world . Biden's policy platforms are considered centre right anywhere else in the developed world !
@survivalsuiters5982 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbrady6154 i dont care about politics in foreign nations every nation has unique values and what is considered conservative and liberal. Right and Left are non sense terms anyways i just used it because those are phrases people understand.
@josephkempinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@survivalsuiters5982 but not in the 30s and 40s. You picked the most right wing time in our country possibly. If not then the second most
@bluedancelilly Жыл бұрын
So useful. I've always wondered this. Much more complicated than I thought.
@catherinecrawford2289 Жыл бұрын
The problem seems to lie in our national desire to see everything as a binary. There are regional and ideological nuances to so much of this.
@jakefromstatefarm6969 Жыл бұрын
Not national, global
@johnweber4577 9 ай бұрын
@@jakefromstatefarm6969 There is indeed a global dimension to this being missed. Specifically, that the professional class which used to be the base of support for right-wing parties has been moving Left while the working class which used to be the base of support for left-wing parties has been moving Right. It's expressing itself in various ways in different countries due to how their unique systems are set-up, but it is observable in some form across many if not most Western nations.
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@johnweber4577 Everything you said is definitely observable in the US. It's nuts how fast it's happening too
@superdavid002 2 жыл бұрын
Each party must constantly counter react to actions of the other party to survive and reach new voters. They do what they do in order to win.
@ayojamro 11 ай бұрын
yep
@urwhitefriend 8 ай бұрын
couldn't have said it better myself
@theperfectmix2 8 ай бұрын
If we had a system that incentivized more political parties then party switches would probably happen less often.
@DiegoF1ores 3 ай бұрын
@@theperfectmix2 yeah but sadly in the rest of the world, two parties still (de facto) are the only ones who can control a country, like in UK, Spain or Germany
@Raptorman0909 3 ай бұрын
That sugar coats what's happening by playing the 'both sides-ism' bullsh!t. The Democratic party pushed for changes through the Civil Rights Acts but the Republican seized upon that as an opportunity to expand their power AT THE EXPENSE of blacks. There is no both sides-ism there, it was a one way street that resulted in the disenfranchisement of blacks.
@rickyn.1567 2 жыл бұрын
The “party switch” myth isn’t really a myth as it is an oversimplification. It’s really three periods where the parties changed: 1934-1936 when the New Deal coalition among Southern Democrats, business-type Democrats, Union Democrats, and Academia led to decades of constant Democrat control in the WH, Senate, and especially the House 1968 when the New Deal coalition among the aforementioned groups collapsed due to infighting concerning civil rights and the war in Vietnam 1992-1994 when the Cold War ended, neoliberalism kicked into full gear, and the Gingrich wing of the Republicans took over Black people switched during the 1930s era, from overwhelmingly Republican in 1932 to overwhelmingly Democrat in 1936. Why? Because they decided that it’s better to face overt racism from Democrats and make money during a depression under the New Deal, than to face covert racism from Republicans and stay poor from their “markets fix themselves” ideology. Eisenhower did great with blacks both times (but didn’t win them in either election), which is why people think they suddenly went Democrat in 1960. The 1960s change saw Republicans winning the South only in presidential races, once again due to that destroyed coalition. Congress-wise, they were hardcore Democrat. Republicans during this period also turned into “globalists” who promoted international trade, while Democrats were more protectionist due to unions (This in particular is the most obvious and simplest example of the parties switching). Republicans under Reagan we’re also (ironically) very anti-gun, pro-amnesty, and interventionalist: three policies that Republicans in 2022 won’t even dare run on. The 1990s was when the South switched Republican, with some states (like MS) not being a Republican-majority state until 2010. Likewise, it was the time the coasts turned Democrat due to more favorable white collar work policies then. All of these, blended together, make the parties look like they switched in the big picture. But it’s multiple policy changes within decades, not a single policy within a year. But parties in their current forms hardly last longer than 30-40 years, if you look back in history and the 7 party eras we had. At that average, we’re due for a party “switch” this decade (although Trump could’ve started that in 2016-18).
@FailedKing 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great analysis, but I would also like to add that so many people that it had to have been the same people that had voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976 that voted overwhelmingly for Reagan in 1980.
@potstuck 2 жыл бұрын
@@FailedKing Interesting assumption. Is there a source that would indicate individual votes from 1976 and those same individuals voting differently in 1980? That source should certainly be cited. Most citations I've come in contact with use generalized voting patterns not individual votes cited to demonstrate your claim.
@MrRetluocc 2 жыл бұрын
@@FailedKing - My parents were among those who switched in the 1980 election. I've got a feeling we may see a similar flip in 2024.
@Gigadanopoly 2 жыл бұрын
@@potstuck so even if he provides a cite you won’t accept it? Because you think generalized information is bad? By that logic business shouldn’t use focus studies, the FBI shouldn’t make crime reports, and the concept of categories should be erased for the books.
@grnmjolnir 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Clinton pulled the D's further into neo-lib style politics as a response to the last dem getting elected president being Carter.
@user-rp1rk8ku9u Жыл бұрын
Pov: you went to new comments to look for angry people
@ddesmarais7251 9 күн бұрын
Lol
@Kozakology Жыл бұрын
HAHAHA! I was literally listening while washing my dishes when he called out the audience. Always great videos. thanks -
@rickwrites2612 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the issue is traditionally *each* party had both a liberal wing (with people we would recognize as liberals) and a conservative wing (with people we would recognize as conservatives). The parties themselves were not more conservative or liberal than each other by today's values. They were less defined by the left/right political spectrum especially regarding social values, but even to some degree regarding economics. It's only in the 21st century that that they really fell into line into 2 completely different tribes. But in a way that was bound to eventually happen in a 2 party system.
@biggibbs4678 Жыл бұрын
No that's not true. This is just another case of Americans thinking they're so special and unique and the rest of the world doesn't deal with the same problems they do.
@treader3126 7 ай бұрын
@@biggibbs4678 two things can be right at the same time. But to tell the truth it isn't because "we are American" it's because our voting system is first past the post, which many other countries have. We aren't that special ;)
@omimo12 5 ай бұрын
Well yes and no. What we call Conservative are Conservative Liberals and NeoConservatives vs the Paleoconservatives that we traditionally had as they mostly died out. Meanwhile The Modern Liberal are Progressive Liberals who merged Clasical Liberalism and Progressivism vs traditional Classical Liberals of the past. The terms has stayed the same but not the definition.
@kylerenglish5698 5 ай бұрын
Regardless of the truth of any 'party switch' it has little or no bearing on the state of the parties and voters today. 99% of Southerners are racially equalitarian, and so are both parties.
@AnthonyBlamthony 4 ай бұрын
@@biggibbs4678 dude what are you yapping about?
@potatomahonman5008 2 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that the switch was very slow on the state and local level. Alabama’s state legislature was controlled by conservative democrats till Obama’s term.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it was a very slow process
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI 2 жыл бұрын
Likely generation politics, people vote how their ancestors do and the party switch was really top down
@michaelnguyen9348 2 жыл бұрын
Dem guvernor lost in 2002 by like 2,000 votes
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnguyen9348 once again generational politics
@Carewolf 2 жыл бұрын
Hell, Biden is so old, he is a pre-switch Democrat
@Crossover_boss 9 ай бұрын
10:00 I was literally laying in the sun just listening lol. I love your content! I’m trying to be a better voter and understand American politics better!! Thank you
@chicoventura Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was curious about additional perspective on this.
@scp_sixtynine4203 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is southern democrats still had a voice in local govts until 2010. In 2008, democrats had 3/4 of the Mississippi house delegation, with similar trends being seen in other southern states like Arkansas which had 2 D senators and a trifecta in the local govt. That domination only ended in 2010
@oaa-ff8zj 2 жыл бұрын
Obama killed them all
@GageEakins 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that is because gerrymandering has basically eliminated democrats in the south.
@oaa-ff8zj 2 жыл бұрын
@@GageEakins which comes from GOP control of state governments…
@TheAlexSchmidt 2 жыл бұрын
Obama was the first Democrat ever to win the presidency without Missouri (which he only lost by a few thousand votes). I think he might've been the first not to win Arkansas, at least since Arkansas became a state.
@oaa-ff8zj 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAlexSchmidt Missouri was really close. If McCain didn’t have Palin he probably would have got it
@jtgd 2 жыл бұрын
It would be ignorant to pretend the parties haven’t changed in the last 50 years. Both have, for better and worse
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Or the last 250 years!
@auramaster8459 2 жыл бұрын
@@iammrbeat the republicans didn’t exist 250 years ago
@jtgd 2 жыл бұрын
@@auramaster8459 i think he means the parties in general in American history
@TheBabyDerp 2 жыл бұрын
@@auramaster8459 The United States of America did not exist 250 years ago.... God save the King?
@jerimiahstephens8580 9 ай бұрын
Mr. Beat always keeping it real. He's human and flawed to personal biases as we all are and with that said I think he really is more focused on th3 truth then any allegiance to a political party or ideology. Besides the Bill of rights and the pursuit of liberty and happiness.
@amapparatistkwabena 9 ай бұрын
Dear Republicans, “I’m not saying you’re racists… I’m just saying that the racists believe you’re racists.”
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
Dear Democrats: The real racists are the ones that are the most concerned with race.
@Sh0ckapollo 9 ай бұрын
If only they had the self awareness enough to realize this 😂😂
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@Sh0ckapollo I know right
@jrabele 9 ай бұрын
Dear Rebublicans I'm just saying you're Racist I'm not saying you're Nazi, not more than 70% anyway.
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@jrabele Let's say you're right and i am a racist. Now what ?
@bishopbling4115 2 жыл бұрын
The party switch could also be said to have started in the 1920's when Herbert Hoover cracked the Solid South & won a few traditionally Democratic southern states.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Oh good catch there
@sickzappybeef9209 2 жыл бұрын
That’s mainly because Al Smith was Catholic
@bishopbling4115 2 жыл бұрын
@@sickzappybeef9209 Yeah that was also a factor, but Hoover did actively court Southern whites with his lily-white strategy which alienated many black voters.
@GreyWolfLeaderTW 2 жыл бұрын
@@bishopbling4115 Funny you should say that, because Herbert Hoover won a majority of blacks in his first presidential election win.
@bishopbling4115 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyWolfLeaderTW I'm not saying that Herbert Hoover performed poorly with black voters, but that the GOP's lily-white movement which Hoover did court started the alienation of black voters from the GOP. As this video points out, it wasn't any one event that caused the parties to immediately switch, but a long evolutionary process that I'd argue started in 1920's with Hoover if not the late 19th century with the birth of the lily-white Republicans.
@JXY2019 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video about an often misunderstood topic. One thing I would add is that not every issue or constituency switched. The republicans remained the party of business.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point, and thank you!
@nicolaseito5172 2 жыл бұрын
Both parties are the parties of the business
@12KevinPower 2 жыл бұрын
Both parties had big business factions. The Democrats used to be the Party of Big Agriculture or only white property owning southern landlords until 1896.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaseito5172 Definitely over the past 40 years.
@GreyWolfLeaderTW 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaseito5172 Define "Party of Business". Because there is a difference between the support of Laissez--Faire Free Market Capitalism and businessmen running for office or allying with and cooperating with politicians (the latter is found among factions of both parties, whereas support for Laissez-Faire Free Market Capitalism is a feature of only the Republican Party and is not liked by the aforementioned fascistic public-private partnership factions).
@shaney8275 Жыл бұрын
Both parties, indeed, "suck all the time." Mr. Beat, you're doing a fine job - keep it up. Your videos are very informative.
@byunbaekhyun2283 7 ай бұрын
Suck all the time?? FDR and JFK say hello to you
@Phoolonahill 3 ай бұрын
Dude you totally friggen got me with that “you’re only listening put the dishes down” I was literally doing just that at that exact moments. Subscribed
@hmpz36911 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until the party system collapses and we start looking at politicians as individuals. Did you ever buy a variety pack of something and go, "I want those 3 flavors, but I don't like the other 2"? That's how I view the party system. Pre-packaged politics 🙄
@loglogic7846 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly when you're voting democrats you're ranging from people like Bernie to Biden
@TheArkDoc 2 жыл бұрын
The collapse of the party system is intriguing, and I agree with you on "pre packaged politics," but I'm not sure a collapse is going to happen. For so many people, their political party is like a team sport with fanatical backing regardless of what the party is doing. I think most independents vote one or two issues at most--and that also leads to the party system getting by as is. As long as either is true, the party system is going nowhere--sadly.
@w00master 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fantasy. Even without parties, coalitions are inevitable.
@pleaseenteraname1103 2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@hmpz36911 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArkDoc Well yeah that's true. Realistically, I don't expect it change any time soon, if ever.
@SEGASister 2 жыл бұрын
I keep saying it (and you’re right): it wasn’t an instant switch. It was gradual.
@patrickdrazen8411 2 жыл бұрын
This wasn't like a single lightning strike; the realignment was more gradual. When JFK was killed in 63 and LBJ became the President who pushed through the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act, Nixon and John Mitchell realized it was their time to approach the Southern States to tell them that Democrats had abandoned them; this was the Southern Strategy. Republicans who hated the GOP as the party of the Union Army now had permission to embrace the GOP for upholding Southern values, while the Democrats took the side of the Black Man. And that's where we've been since then.
@GreyWolfLeaderTW 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickdrazen8411 Problem with that claim is Nixon lost the Deep South to "Segregation Today, Segregation Tomorrow, & Segregation Forever" George Wallace, a Dixiecrat running as an independent in 1968. Also, blacks joined the Democrat Party back in the 1930s, voting overwhelmingly for FDR for his first term. The blacks did not switch in the 1960s/70s.
@suarezguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyWolfLeaderTW Nixon of course wanted and hoped to win the Wallace voters next time in '72 (although he managed to win most of the whole country then).
@patrickdrazen8411 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyWolfLeaderTW (a) Yes, Wallace ran an overtly racist effort in 1968 and may have drained votes from both parties; the final margin of Nixon's win was very tight. History did not repeat itself in 1972; that spring, Wallace was shot on the campaign trail and had to drop out of the race. It was an easy re-elect for Nixon, which meant he probably didn't need to have his people bug the Democratic office at the Watergate... (b) Black voters didn't switch, because the GOP made it clear that they weren't interested in the Black vote as far back as the 30s; Truman reaffirmed the commitment to Black voters after the war.
@moviemaestro800 2 жыл бұрын
@Dr SalTeeNeutsMD This video proves that it all did happen, my friend. Those who are rewriting history are those insisting that it didn't happen, despite all impartially sourced evidence.
@mcox565 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks especially for the quote from Atwater about the Southern strategy.
@sgrant9814 9 ай бұрын
Basically the south was the problem in 1860 and 1960 and in 2023 continues to be the problem. Hmmmm
@BenjaminWirtz 2 жыл бұрын
The real key in terms of the racism aspect is in the Dixiecrats, the Democrats were factionalized. If it was as some claim, Nixon would have won the deep south in 1968 but Wallace did, with support of Dixiecrats. Then the next election as shown Nixon got 49 states, so not even just the South. I do like how you pointed out the other issues, such as how ab abortion was not something that was split along party lines like it is today. It is often portrayed as a 180 switch but it was an intricate shifting of policies, that didn't all happen at once. As for dog whistles, I hear it thrown around but when asked for specific examples, about all I hear is state's rights, a concept that has a much longer and deeper history than merely being supportive of racism, being supported in the North prior to the confederacy.
@onomatopoeia162003 2 жыл бұрын
Dixiecrats started to walk out after Humphrey's speech in '48 (yes, born and raised here in MN)
@suarezguy 2 жыл бұрын
"Southern Strategy" of course racism and trying to appeal to it was part of the Republican strategy but trying to making it sound as if that was the core of Republicans or their success crudely ignores that Nixon in '72 and then Reagan won landslides, had and were successful with 40-49 state strategies.
@marknavarro953 2 жыл бұрын
The democrats are still fractured and the Dixiecrats now call thems loves progressives.
@MrDj232 2 жыл бұрын
Dog whistles are whistles that only dogs can hear. I'm not being literal, that's the definition of the term in politics. This nonsense about using coded words to make normal people support racism is just left-wing bs. Actual dog whistles can only be recognized by members of the group they're addressing. They serve as a signal that someone is like-minded, and it's safe to privately discuss controversial beliefs.
@TheGlock30owner 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDj232 which explains why only Demoncrats hear the so-called "dog whistles" of the Republicans.
@Nairnpeters Жыл бұрын
I love that you base most of your videos on facts not just opinion it's mostly facts. I love it, it helps for people to actual learn and it's great. Thank you
@jacksonb.valentine8208 Жыл бұрын
Was listening while doing my oil change and that call out made me bonk my head pretty good to try to look at my screen lol
@yogz90 10 ай бұрын
Sir thank you so much for covering this topic
@NicWeaverMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beat thank you for all of your great content over the years. I appreciate your well researched and presented videos and especially your dry sense of humor. You cutting straight to "I'm losing my hair" after finishing the discussion about race based politics had me legitimately laughing out loud. I've heard you're from Lawrence, and I'm only about 25 minutes east in Lenexa! If you have any events coming up I'd love to meet you in person, you've really kept history interesting for me in the last couple of years.
@jmurphy6767 2 жыл бұрын
What I find odd is that since the Southern Strategy began, Republicans have run few Prez/VP candidates from the South. W. I guess you might count Romney, McCain and Dole, but they’re not from the traditional South and they lost. Maybe Agnew? But none of them were who you’d pick to appeal to segregationists. Dems, however, had Carter, Clinton, Gore from the traditional South. Of course, they were considered progressive on race but they had their moments when they needed to appeal to conservatives.
@rimfire8217 Жыл бұрын
Ironic.
@Krosskaos Жыл бұрын
I think either party using the "Southern Switch" or the "Southern Strategy" as talking points against the opposing party is just not called for. Neither one identifies with what their own party supported one hundred years ago by and large. So why bring it up? It means nothing! It just mucks up political discourse.
@devvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Жыл бұрын
i completely agree. we make 0 progress with these kind of arguments
@Isaaac165 Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, who cares what people did 100 years ago? We can’t control that.
@Mzee1084 6 ай бұрын
As a historian I find it fascinating to see how things evolve over time, and seeing how history repeats itself so much. The Southern Strategy is more than just a talking point though as it is something that actually happened. One thing I think the US needs to learn from Germany is that we can't whitewash or ignore history. We hear "white guilt" a lot as an argument for why we shouldn't talk about History (particularly with the way indigenous groups were treated) in the US. Germany really embraced their country's role in the Nazis and make sure that their citizens understand the country's role. A large swath of the US is still engaging in "The Lost Cause" rewriting the history of the Confederacy and the Civil War. We can't learn from the past by trying to ignore it because it makes people uncomfortable.
@NyanCatMatt 8 ай бұрын
A lot of people deny the party switch (crazies), but others acknowledge it but say "Democrats used to be the racist party" to make the Republicans sound better. It's like, yeah, but you'd vote for them.
@nooblord1233 2 ай бұрын
people who disagree with me are crazies. Wow. Thanks for doing your part in polarizing the country even further. I hope you realize how dumb you are one day
@carl-antonluninck6113 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the intermission! You caught me right in the act. I was literally doing my dishes.
@jacobfrizzell542 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beat, the way you bring people back to paying attention is funny. thank you for making history fun
@raysaunier8071 9 ай бұрын
This was covered very well. If could have written a piece on this subject it would be “I Don’t Know This to be True, I just Know It’s True. The two groups switched places, but I couldn’t prove it. Thank you.
@jacobb2984 Жыл бұрын
You almost got me a second time mr beat. This time I was trying to go to bed not doing the dishes
@marvincool3744 2 жыл бұрын
Hell I've seen Democrats and Republicans basically switch positions on tariffs in my lifetime
@vincentdobbel5407 2 жыл бұрын
As a non American I have always been confused by the colours of the American Parties, because where I'm from the Conservative Party, or the right wing Parties usually are shown in blue and the social democratic or as I think you would call them liberal Parties are always in red. But if the US-Parties kinda switched over time it makes sense that they would keep their associated colour.
@johnweber4577 2 жыл бұрын
Neither party had any particular color officially attached to them for most of their history and ultimately didn't really pick the ones that they have now either. But the first electoral television news coverage to feature one of the color-coded maps which wound up popularizing the practice was done by CBS in 1972 and actually used blue for the Republican Richard Nixon and red for the Democrat George McGovern. NBC followed suit during the next election cycle in 1976 by giving blue to Gerald Ford and red to Jimmy Carter. They cited the color scheme that had been adopted by the British parties, blue for the Conservatives and red for Labour, as the reason for assigning them the way they did. Though if you want to go back further, there was a printed electoral college map for the election of 1888 approved of by both candidates that also used blue for the Republican Benjamin Harrison and red for the Democrat Grover Cleveland. They were inconsistently applied across all the various news stations following the 1972 CBS broadcast, with the modern color associations only being uniformly agreed upon by the major networks in 1996 for the sake of not confusing audience members who switched between them and finally solidified in the public consciousness by the long-drawn-out process Bush vs. Gore turned into in 2000. If one needs some kind of an explanation beyond pure chance for why the red for Republican and blue for Democrat motif was even considered in the first place, there are two commonly-held theories. One is that the media as a whole simply likes the alliteration of the words red and Republican. The other is that they were playing defense for the Democrats by helping to distance them from the color traditionally linked to radicalism when the looming fear of communism remained ever-present. However, I still tend to believe it was just an accident of circumstances at the end of the day.
@zeged Жыл бұрын
they got their colors late 90s early 2000s
@biggibbs4678 Жыл бұрын
Makes more sense. Communism is leftist and red.
@user-sp7rc9nu3z Жыл бұрын
From what Ive seen, NBC was the first to use "red for reagan" in '80 and the other networks follow suit to avoid confusion
@beasley1232 9 ай бұрын
Actually, they got their associated colors in the early 2000s, before that the colors would switch between them in the 80s and 90s
@oneofus6924 4 ай бұрын
you can safely assume any single word that comes out of dinesh's mouth is not only false, but inflammatory.
@jakepockets4977 2 ай бұрын
Keep doing the good and hard work 💜
@doubleoyimmy1572 2 жыл бұрын
This video was done very well and clear as can be. Thank you so much
@hozonkai9967 2 жыл бұрын
Woodrow Wilson was left-wing on economics, but incredibly racist.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
And that's why so many dislike him today! History is complicated.
@abrahamlincoln937 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, except I think that Wilson gets way too much hate online. Everyone would agree that Wilson’s racism is a bad thing about Wilson. Conservatives and libertarians would oppose his liberal economic policies and his liberal internationalist foreign policy. I mostly agree with Wilson’s economic policies and I partially agree with his foreign policy. Wilson is a C tier president in my opinion.
@abrahamlincoln937 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 We already had a conversation about Wilson in the comments on Mr. Beat’s presidential tier list video with Vlogging through History. I know that you are very conservative and even though I disagree with you I understand why you hate Wilson. Apparently Theodore Roosevelt was also a supporter of the Lilly White movement.
@jeffredfern3744 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 when did Woodrow Wilson ever publicly seize the means of production?
@TheBabyDerp 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 I mean he did keep us out of the war for as long as he could. although I definitely do think it was justified that we joined in 1917. other than that I hate him
@henryhohl5595 2 ай бұрын
Bro shook me when he told me to stop doing the dishes I tweaked
@diannt9583 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!!
@andrewsutherland133 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Literally other than myself, you are the only person who doesn't teach it, "Johnson signed the Civil rights bill, he said he lost the south forever, and he did" Literally every history class I had was them saying it, me going, "what about Carter in 76" and their response is just something vague like, "it was different then"
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's so much more complicated
@suarezguy 2 жыл бұрын
He did lose the South in terms of it being a partisan "Solid South" although a moderate can still win.
@andrewsutherland133 2 жыл бұрын
@@suarezguy when it comes to presidential elections, yes, but as the video pointed out, most congress people up until 1990 were still democrats.
@cedricparsels8350 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is coming to you third hand, but I've always wondered if there isn't more to the story about Carter. I worked with an older man maybe 15 years ago who was absolutely disgusted with Carter. When I asked why, he said that he had had a friend who was African American and who had worked on the Carter peanut farm. His friend told him that the Carters had treated him and his fellow African Americans pretty poorly on account of their race. Now, I've no doubt that Carter doesn't hold racist views (at least, not anymore), but could it be that part of the reason why many in the South voted for Carter was because they believed Carter was on their side when it came to race relations? That seems to make a lot more sense than simply saying, "Well, Carter was from the South. So, people from the South voted for him." Doesn't it make more sense to say, "Carter was from the South. So, a majority of Southerners believed that he would represent their interests, possibly even their perceived interests when it came to race-relations." As I've said, ever since that conversation 15 years ago, I've wanted to delve into this deeper.
@muttgooch 2 жыл бұрын
Could Ford pardoning Nixion played a role in Carter winning?
@jackmunch6978 2 жыл бұрын
Southern Strategy denial isn’t too far off from flat earth nonsense, or holocaust denial.
@gtaylor2455 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Nixon had a Southern Strategy. And a Midwest Strategy, and a Northeast Strategy, and a Mountain West Strategy, and a West Coast Strategy. Every campaign has a strategy for every region of the country. This has been politics since the begining of time. What we have here is a leftist conspiracy theory. Lee Atwater gives an interview in 1981 where he briefly mentions Nixon's 1968 southern strategy (Atwater would have been 17 and has #^@^ all first hand knowledge about Nixon's 1968 campaign), and leftist imaginations ran wild. Unrelated events are now explained by thos grand conspiracy by an administration that ultimately couldn't pull off a simple burglary. The Nixon administration was too much of a cluster #&#& to pull off anything like "The Southern Strategy" as the left defines it. Today we have conspiracy theorists making all these connections that do not exist. Strom Thurmond leaves the Democratic Party in 1964. Leftist conspiracy theorists attribute this to Nixon's 1968 "Southern Strategy."
@alexrogers777 2 жыл бұрын
@@gtaylor2455 Lee Atwater explicitly laid out what the southern strategy was and that lines up perfectly with what republicans are doing today, how do you explain that? How do you explain the Southern Manifesto, and the Republican's formal apology for using the Southern Strategy in 2005 then? I mean shit dude, they've already admitted to using the Southern strategy in 2005, it's too late to back peddle and say y'all never used it.
@gtaylor2455 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexrogers777 Lee Atwater was a 17 year old highschool student in 1968 you moron. He knows fuck @^^# about what Nixon did in 1968. It "lines up perfectly" because it's your narrative. You are cherry picking you dip #^&$.
@thebruceleefan 2 жыл бұрын
Explain the comparison
@jackmunch6978 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebruceleefan Both have a lot of historical documentation from the planners themselves.
@Sparrows1121 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I appreciate it!
@iloveplasticbottles 4 ай бұрын
"an agenda to make the Republican party look good" Theyre doing a horrible job at that
@celticmulato2609 4 ай бұрын
Agenda?? This is all historical facts! Cognitive dissonance is strong with you! SMH
@ryandryja6639 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Beat, I've been watching your videos since I was in the tenth grade and needed to find some info on the election of 1876 for my APUSH class, I'm almost 20 now and I haven't regretted subscribing for one day. This has honestly been the best video I have seen on the subject and all I can say is, *Mr. Beat voice* See you in the next video buddy!
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Aw that's really cool to hear. I'm so glad you stuck around these past 7 years 😊
@jandrashriker5861 2 жыл бұрын
Elanor Roosevelt was a anti-segregationist campaigner. FDR wanted to include African-Americans into the New Deal program but racists of that time fought really hard to keep them out. There is a great book on it by Ira Katznelson called "when affirmative action was white"
@jandrashriker5861 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if there were any mistakes made. I am just an ameraboo Indian.
@RealDemimondaine 2 жыл бұрын
You’re correct. FDR had to compromise with those sorts of democrats if he even wanted to pass any of his policies.
@GreyWolfLeaderTW 2 жыл бұрын
And the Southern Dixiecrats forced FDR to put whites at the front of lines to receive benefits from his New Deal programs. Isn't that peachy /s, he basically bribes blacks to vote with him with promises of government benefits, then stabs them in the back in order to retain Dixiecrat support.
@jnayvann 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyWolfLeaderTW But we can't that in school because of you know...Critical Race Theory *signs*
@nathandrake5544 2 жыл бұрын
@@jnayvann What Greywolf just said (albeit oversimplified) is Critical Race Theory
@coughfee1416 2 ай бұрын
10:00 that is the exact moment I alt-tab'ed and you hit me with a 4th wall break. Goddamn, you beat me :D
@kman8749 11 ай бұрын
I had no idea the right wing was pretending like the southern strategy wasn't a thing. I thought it was widely accepted for what it is, a fact.
@sandman4663 10 ай бұрын
They deny it because they try and blame the other side for the racist policies and practices of the past. But the reality is that the switch happened evidenced by all these people flying confederate flags are *not* voting for democratic candidates where as their great grandparents would have voted for democrats....this is part of the issue with the USA though, extreme misinformation and loud screaming. It doesn't matter who is right because the facts of history are conveniently misconstrued to fit the agenda of my side good, your side bad. If you don't want to live in a populistic theocracy, for the love of freedom, vote blue.
@willmont8258 9 ай бұрын
It is BS. Republicans never supported the racist policies which the Democrats in the south supported. The only "switch" was the south became less and less racist, and as a result began voting Republican. Republicans never adopted the racist policies of Democrats.
@raptorfromthe6ix833 7 ай бұрын
some especially democrats and republicans simplify to benfit themselves not stating the amount of nuance and that they used coded languages to this day
@Mzee1084 6 ай бұрын
Republican talking heads like Dinesh D'Souza and Candace Owens are always denying the southern strategy occurred. Another made up argument that has grown a lot in recent years in Republican circles is the notion that the country is a republic and not a Democracy.
@austinheath9439 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always Mr. Beat! This felt very unbiased and covered a lot of political history that people are not always comfortable recognizing. Also, around the 8 minute mark I started falling asleep and listening instead of watching. So when you said that thing about paying attention it definitely freaked me out. Thought I was dreaming for a second!
@fromthefireside5677 2 жыл бұрын
He had to do that or he loses his audience wiht his crap.
@dmitrikrosikio2684 2 жыл бұрын
Southern republican here. Yeah, the switch happened. My grandparents were all conservative democrats, but my parents switched from democrat to republican in the 1980s to vote for reagan. The switch was a weird gradual shift into neoconservatism from what i see from my family. Grandparents were traditional conservatives, parents are neocons, now i'm a libertarian republican
@adam3496 2 жыл бұрын
a “libertarian” Republican is a contradiction in terms
@TheManWhoTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@adam3496 the republican party was created to fight slavery. How is it a contradiction?
@GAMEOVER-yy6zj 2 жыл бұрын
At this rate your next generation will lie between moderate democrat to extreme .
@adam3496 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheManWhoTypes ye it was, but now its just a bunch of authoritarians who don't care one bit about freedom or liberty. the patriot act was passed by and created by republicans.
@josome7451 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheManWhoTypes did you even watch the video lmao
@jeremylesh7098 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for being 100 percent factually correct.
@user-zz6vo3de1i 9 ай бұрын
George Wallace was right
@davidquintanilla3267 3 ай бұрын
“Put those dishes down” 😭😭😭
@h_in_oh 2 жыл бұрын
Those who argue against the existence of the party switch and the Southern Strategy generally categorize everything as good and evil, so "the good guys and bad guys did not switch." The switch is easier to see objectively when looking at conservative vs. liberal/progressive without branding either as good or bad. Making the switch focus only on racism, while it certainly played a part, puts conservatives on the defensive and leads to those denials.
@thebruceleefan 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong the switch did not happen at all the racist did not switch the well fare proponents did not switch and the people looking out for working Americans did not switch those that say other wise can neither read nor do math
@RottenInDenmarkOrginal 2 жыл бұрын
Not true! Because the switch has EVERYTHING to do with racism in the South. The Dems created the KKK, JIM CROW LAWS and the like.
@h_in_oh 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, two responses from exactly opposite ends of the pendulum. It's simple to see that when the Republican party started out, it was the party of progressives while the Democrats were the conservatives, and today the Republicans are the party of conservatives while the Democrats are the party of progressives. That is a switch. However, it is incorrect to think that the switch was quick or based on only one issue. Think of it as one of those puzzles where one word changes to a completely different word with entirely different letters through steps where in each step it changes only one letter at a time. Were some of those steps about racist policies? Yes, particularly at the end. Were all the steps about racism? Not necessarily. Are there still individual issues that did not move along with the general conservative vs. liberal divide? Yes. We have a diverse country with a multitude of hot issues, and the party switch reflects that.
@RottenInDenmarkOrginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@h_in_oh That is NOT even true. The Democrat created the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, and tried at every turn to NOT free salves and to keep them "on the plantation". The Republican Party was the party which wanted freedom for ALL! The Republican party was the party of BLACKS. You aren't very good at true history, are yah?
@h_in_oh 2 жыл бұрын
@@RottenInDenmarkOrginal Yes, the Republican party started out as the party for freedom for slaves. At the time, you could not get more radical progressive than that. At the same time, the Democrats were the conservative party with the hot issue of preserving slavery and segregation. When did I indicate otherwise? The point is that the parties eventually flipped which was conservative and which was progressive though a series of phases, not one big flip. Some of those shifts were focused on race and some were not.
@joshparnell7755 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours that I have watched, and I am very impressed. You don’t resort to oversimplification and you are easy to listen to. I’m going to check out your other videos now.
@Kcam9608 Жыл бұрын
Great videos! Truly appreciated
@lynettemourning5086 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I learned a lot from it.
@Lakupeep 2 жыл бұрын
I love all of the people in denial about the party switch lol
@vincentmattiello351 3 ай бұрын
This is just untrue facts created by liberal trying to prove this fake party switch.
@alexking7262 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Mr. Beat, I’m now a fan of your channel, I honestly don’t understand why your videos don’t have millions of views & why you don’t have millions of subscribers, keep up the great work man! 👍 Also I just remembered I have a second account so I used it to subscribe to you a SECOND time!
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, well thanks for subscribing to me twice!
@FREEM1ND Жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Beat! I was looking at the literature linked to this topic, and I was curious to know if there was a defacto, #1 choice for literature on this topic. Maybe one book you'd recommend? Would that be Nut Country or something else? Thanks in advance!
@2smokindukes 9 ай бұрын
I was actually doing dishes and I now think you are magic Mr Beat
@EnigmaticLucas 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how it's even possible to argue otherwise. If you compare the original platform of the GOP to the original platform of the Democratic Party, it's quite obvious that the GOP was originally the more progressive one.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@emerica21ful 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 go watch your wwe women’s moments creep-o
@EnigmaticLucas 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 At the time, abolitionism was _extremely_ progressive
@onomatopoeia162003 2 жыл бұрын
The Whigs were the more Progressive Party at the time. The Republican Party was more liberal leaning. (hence Lincoln was a moderate whig when he was in the House)
@danktank9869 2 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out video. Presented with great context and all of the facts instead of everyone else having an agenda to make their party look better.
@williamj7343 9 ай бұрын
How did he know I was washing the dishes while listening…I mean watching this video…😮
@cursorguy Жыл бұрын
Bro I normally “watch” (Really just listen to) Mr. Beat while doing the dishes. And if it wasn’t for one of the few times I watch videos like these on my Xbox while NOT doing the dishes, 10:00 would’ve scared me lol
@NefariousKoel 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the rural and small business Democrats of the baby boomer generation I've spoken with, in my extended family, said they vowed never to vote Democrat again after voting Carter and getting the results. Economic issues were the huge factor for that generation, and the results of the big change were evident in Reagan's landslide elections. Obviously some of the switch voters went back to voting Democrat again, but many didn't. It was enough to make a permanent change in voting habits on a large scale.
@java4653 Жыл бұрын
"After voting Carter and getting the results". Carter inherited Inflation from Nixon & Ford...and it was his policies that ended inflation, they just took until 1983 to make a difference...and the Republicans stole credit. We now know the Right coordinated a false memory field in this era, including folks like pundit George Will. They had no Fox News, but most reporters were very naive about partisanship in their ranks.
@reggiefreeborn2143 9 ай бұрын
Yeah this just seems to play down the role the southern strategy and roe v wade had. Reagan had a huge economic down during his first term and he only got better results.
@Dougie1969 9 ай бұрын
@@reggiefreeborn2143 Hold on to that thought
@bvm3925 9 ай бұрын
On the flip side of that, the majority of Trump voters are between the ages of 41 and 55. They're the ones who have destroyed the Republican party.
@porscheoscar 9 ай бұрын
Reagan never had full control of Congress despite two landslide wins even taking a massive beating in the 1982 midterm election. Now contrast that to Bidens midterm election where he didn't lose a single seat in the Senate, only lost the House because Florida governor DeSantis redrew the Congressional districts himself to give his party 20 of the 28 districts despite Biden losing the state to Trump by only 3% in 2020. Perhaps the most blatant gerrymandering of any state. A more representative redistricting would have been 15 Republican and 13 Democrat. That would have resulted in Republicans falling short of 5 house seat needed retake the House. Biden also held every Democrat controlled state legislature. This was the first time in 70 years where the incumbent didn't take a midterm beating like Reagan, Clinton, Obama and Trump. Sometimes the country are more into the person than the party like Reagan in 84 and sometimes they agree more with the party than the person like Biden in 2022 midterm.
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Mr. Beat. There is lots of misinformation on this topic and this was definitely huge clarification.
@iammrbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dafuq355 2 жыл бұрын
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@PeachWookiee 2 жыл бұрын
@Louis XIV: But they did switch, or evolve. It’s pretty obvious that they switched. The Dixiecrats moved to the Republicans on the argument of “states’ rights,” and it cannot be denied. And before you ask, until about 2012, I was fairly conservative.
@11th_defender51 2 жыл бұрын
@@night6724 Did you watch the video?
@levigriffith3324 2 жыл бұрын
Something ironic about seeing someone with the username @@night6724 argue for states' rights. As your namesake would say, "L'etat c'est moi!"
@Riley_Mundt 9 ай бұрын
Another aspect that should be noted is large amounts of interstate migration during the 1970's. After the steel mills and auto factories in the northern states closed, many of those workers moved to find work. In addition, California has long had a revolving door of residents, with nearly as many people leaving as there are those coming in. Realistically, it is not so much of a switch as it is a broadening of each party into a massive umbrella that has no real identity anymore. Regardless of what the parties claim, they are basically the same... equally worthless.
@dawnmitchell11 9 ай бұрын
Very astute observations! I'll cheers to both parties are basically the same and stink!
@JusticeMildenberg 9 ай бұрын
10:02 I was listening to this at work and stopped in my tracks when you said that 😂 like "HOW DID HE KNOW?!"
@Leotv19 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I encounter so many who deny this simple historical fact.
@hellothere4765 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the southern democrats used to to be super socially conservative but economically left wing, like with candidates like Huey Long.
@Ben-xg3ht 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Shattered_Universe Жыл бұрын
10:00 - I had been watching while eating dinner, and had just gone over to take care of said dishes when that popped up. How the feck did you know?!
@austinpierce6746 2 жыл бұрын
I also really appreciated your nuanced telling of Goldwater. We always simplify Goldwaters decision as a matter of racism when it was devoid of that, looking at his history. I would actually push back on your characterization of him as leading the push for civil rights. He was always supportive of them, as seen in his push for desegregated schools in Nevada. But in my opinion, was never extremely devote or fierce in his pro civil rights stances, at least when compared to his other policies, and other civil rights advocates.
@blackknightjack3850 2 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking for a while that the reason Reagan switched parties was because of racism based solely on the timing only to find he really did only do it because he hated FDR's New Deal.
@alwillk 2 жыл бұрын
@blackjacknight that is incorrect. Reagan switched parties for three reasons. Number 1 Reagan didn’t like that he was be investigated in 1961 by democrats RFK and the justice department while being a Union president for violating anti-trust laws. #2 the people that paid for Reagan to run for political office Holmes Tuttle, Alfred Bloomingdale, joesph coors, etc were staunch anti-labor and anti -union and saw what Reagan was able to do while spokesman for GE. The “kitchen cabinet” as his donors were called hoped Reagan being a union president could convince workers to relinquish their rights and and remove regulations like OSHA. #3 Reagan’s wife Nancy and her family were republicans and she had a major influence on him.
@pjpredhomme7699 2 жыл бұрын
@@alwillk well explained - you nailed it - he literally was playing a part
@MrMike855 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Goldwater distanced himself from the Reagan Republicans because he supported abortion and gay people openly serving in the military, toward the end of his life he even told Republicans "Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you've hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have.", despite being regarded as the founder of modern conservatism.
@Black_Caucus 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, it's a bit more nuanced but he was no civil rights hero. A big tip for anyone: any time you ever hear someone bring up 'state's rights', remind them and let them know that that was literally the same argument people used 150 years ago when supporting slavery. It's a pretty lame dog-whistle now.
@codycampbell4880 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for calling me out Mr. Beat I was literally doing dishes when you told me not too 😂
@Steinwagner15 4 ай бұрын
You should’ve seen my face at the 10:08 mark. Listening and doing dishes and having him tell me to put the dishes down !!!
@xxiv168 5 ай бұрын
According to one historical analysis, of the 1500+ racist “Dixiecrats” only Strom Thurmond and about a dozen others left the Democratic Party for the GOP (less than 1%). Furthermore, Thurmond didn't switch parties until 16 years after Truman forced his hand to create his “Dixiecrat” party.
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