Why Did The SEGA CD FAIL !? - Gaming History Documentary

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Lady Decade

Lady Decade

2 жыл бұрын

In today's video, we look at the history of the Sega CD or Mega CD depending on where you are from in the world. Why did this Sega Megadrive / Genesis Add-on not live up to expectations? Let's discuss its rise and fall further. #SegaCD #MegaCD #gaminghistory
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@johntracy72
@johntracy72 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Sega CD. Some of the best JRPG's were on it: Lunar: The Silver Star, Lunar: Eternal Blue, Vay, Shining Force CD, Dark Wizard, and Popful Mail. Silpheed was a great shooter.
@jemiebridges3197
@jemiebridges3197 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. They seemed to be home to Working Designs, who did jrpg translations, but as there motto says, cranked them up to 11. And of course segas own RPGs. Too bad it didn't have time for a Phantasy Star to develope.
@jaysea5804
@jaysea5804 2 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaas it was hardly a failure had some of the best games pretty much what you listed and also snatcher and the space adventure cobra
@yeroc5033
@yeroc5033 2 жыл бұрын
Snatcher was another gem.
@yeroc5033
@yeroc5033 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaysea5804 Have to replay SACobra that game is so weirdly awesome
@albertabramson3157
@albertabramson3157 2 жыл бұрын
It had about 20 of the best games ever... and about 184 other mediocre titles.
@smoothALOE
@smoothALOE 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the greatest era of console gaming ever. Arguably the greatest arcade era, as well. I love the Genesis and the SNES, but there was also the TG-16 and the Neo Geo. All four of those were solid systems.
@Darxide23
@Darxide23 2 жыл бұрын
The Genesis was the pinnacle of console gaming. It's all been downhill ever since.
@smoothALOE
@smoothALOE 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darxide23 it’s my absolute favorite.
@datanyc004
@datanyc004 2 жыл бұрын
I was Super Nintendo. I felt they were ahead of their time. Many of the other consoles would copy Nintendo's innovativeness... I preferred 6 button's.
@Darxide23
@Darxide23 2 жыл бұрын
@@datanyc004 The Genesis/Mega Drive came out more than two years before the Super Nintendo. It's clear who copied who. And what Genesis owner didn't have a 6 button controller? lol
@datanyc004
@datanyc004 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darxide23 Nintendo was founded before Sega. They already had their prototypes. Just didn't put it out in the market yet.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of shocking when you realize that Microsoft has been in the console business longer than Sega was. And that it's been over 20 years since the Dreamcast was discontinued.
@JamesChessman
@JamesChessman 2 жыл бұрын
Well Grampa it’s just not the same world that you grew up in, anymore, but you can always enjoy the memories!!
@Nick_Nightingale
@Nick_Nightingale 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesChessman All these young whippersnappers talkin bout then pee ess five and Ex boxes one. Back in my day, vidya game decks didn't have no numbers on then. We played with our Robs the Robot and we liked it!
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky 2 жыл бұрын
That's just in NA. In Japan, Microsoft was associated with the MSX computer, often used as a game console. That started in 1983. One reason the OG Xbox had success in Japan is that many people who grew up playing games on MSX were making their own games by the time the Xbox came out and had a lot of love for Microsoft. It was not a name new to video games at all. At least in Japan.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 2 жыл бұрын
@@LatitudeSky The MSX wasn't made by Microsoft, per se. The computers themselves were manufactured by a bunch of different companies like Sony. As I understand it, MSX was a standard. I would equate it more like an OS like Windows. I was talking specifically about consoles. Obviously MS has been in the computer business for decades. Many people grew up playing DOS games before the Xbox.
@CaramelisedNipples
@CaramelisedNipples 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite console as a kid, I played sonic CD until my eyes bled.
@ripsnort8194
@ripsnort8194 2 жыл бұрын
I hated sonic cd man no fluidity
@B33FY2011
@B33FY2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@ripsnort8194 Same, It's the worst Sonic game of the classics for me.
@teddyaldridge7871
@teddyaldridge7871 2 жыл бұрын
…was the summer of 69 😎
@Scorpiove
@Scorpiove 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic CD was great. It expanded greatly on the first game.
@CaramelisedNipples
@CaramelisedNipples 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scorpiove Agreed, once I got used to the past, present and future system I really got into it. I'd still say sonic 3 and knuckles is my favourite but this is a close second.
@DragoonMS
@DragoonMS 2 жыл бұрын
The CDX was the best iteration of the Mega CD/Sega CD in my book; a Megadrive, Mega CD, AND portable CD player all in one? I totally wanted one when they were on clearance...as my first portable CD player, since the actual games I wanted were already fairly hard to find at that point.
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Xeye/Wondermega myself, I think the CDx is too small and light
@DragoonMS
@DragoonMS 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenkoopa Yeah, it is pretty tiny, but I think that deep down, somebody at Sega's R&D intended it more as a portable CD player first, and the combined force of the Megadrive & Mega CD afterward. But who knows?
@joe_schmoe_420
@joe_schmoe_420 2 жыл бұрын
@@DragoonMS the cdx was supposed to be a portable cd player with game options It ran on AA batteries(I never used the feature tho as I kept mine at home)
@wills.364
@wills.364 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my CDX in possession. Played a ton of Spider-Man vs the Kingpin on Sega cd
@albertabramson3157
@albertabramson3157 2 жыл бұрын
They were cool looking, to boot. How much were they when they hit clearance? I paid full price for the Genesis AND Sega CD and was plenty ticked off when I heard that SEGA was trying to bring out a $160 addon and a $400 Saturn at the same time. What about your fan base?!
@GodsSoldier2
@GodsSoldier2 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Sega CD. That system was amazing at the time!
@lostboy626
@lostboy626 2 жыл бұрын
Doodle Pigeon! I’m so glad you covered it’s development correctly being a response to the PC-Engine CD, and not the SNES or to extend the life of the MD. So many incorrectly report that part. I learned something new too with this video, about the styling being designed to mimic the look of a Hi-Fi stacked setup. It makes so much sense! Great video for one of my favorite childhood consoles.
@javierespinazopagan3172
@javierespinazopagan3172 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically the "lazy" FMV games must've been more expensive to produce than a regular game or a port of an arcade
@Fangarius
@Fangarius 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, from the US perspective here's how Sega of America had attempted handing the Sega CD. Since they were not given a prototype for them and developers to work with, they had been forced to look at the next best thing: the CD-ROM, which was just coming out on its own in the PC market. Observing these games, they acknowledged the use of FMV in them, and as you said immediately went with this angle when marketing the add-on. The problem was, people here kept confusing CDs with LaserDisc (LDs) presuming the Sega CD could produce more vibrant and animated graphics like in Dragon's Lair (or by today's comparison, Pokemon Arceus Legends), so when the actual footage came out, despite JVC's efforts, the graphics were a bit lackluster. The other issue was the original hardware itself. If SOJ had let SOA have a basic prototype, they might have been able to prevent one major design flaw: the heatsink issues. Since the add-on did use the Genesis itself as a processing source, the power caused it to create major heat. Now if you were playing say Sonic CD or some arcade like game, this wasn't a major concern. But if you were playing an RPG like Lunar or Shining Force CD for several hours, where the original add-on reached a critical temperature, the emergency cut-off would activate, and you had to wait for it to cool down. The reason why I recall this was my friend had purchased one directly from its launch date, and after playing with it for several months, the unit had actually burned out due to this. Regrettably, the Sega support team couldn't offer any solutions to it, so he wound up with a $400 door stop. Until he could eventually replace it with the more sleeker, compact disc like model, which had addressed the heatsink issues. Also came the problem of Sega 'converting' some of their Genesis titles into CD format. Expecting the graphics, or at least the gameplay itself, being improved, they were disappointed in finding out the only upgrade was the processing/loading time for the games, since it was simply the same game. Making some players feel cheated, despite the fact the Sega CD did have a few original titles out there.
@TheT3rr0rMask
@TheT3rr0rMask 2 жыл бұрын
Yah and the PCE CD had a way better library in comparison, even in the West. Didn't have as many FMV games, more and more actual video games. Plus CD games on it looked particularly better as well. Sega CD games didn't offer as much a leap graphically but Genesis is a more powerful beast than PCE
@SegaCDUniverse
@SegaCDUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
When I first played a game with FMV on the Sega CD, I couldn't believe my eyes. I remember thinking that I couldn't believe I was playing a movie, and it would never get any better.
@redstratus97
@redstratus97 2 жыл бұрын
$300 in 1992 was just laughably high for my family. My dad laughed off the thought of ever getting one for me due to the price alone. For years as a kid I viewed anyone that had a Sega CD as someone who was quite wealthy. Well, that was up until the PS1 came out and by that time $300 wasn’t as bad.
@hepwo91222
@hepwo91222 2 жыл бұрын
price came down over the years and the install base was in the millions, wasn't really a failed add on. I got the Genesis model 2 with the Sega CD clamshell model which I don't remember the price but was significantly cheaper than its launch price.
@OpenMawProductions
@OpenMawProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@hepwo91222 It was a failure.
@hepwo91222
@hepwo91222 2 жыл бұрын
@@OpenMawProductions it was successful for the time all things considered.
@Joshallenbigballs
@Joshallenbigballs 2 жыл бұрын
@@hepwo91222 no no it wasn’t
@narcopsy
@narcopsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@hepwo91222 even sega gave up on it fairly quickly. As a kid my parents told me it was too expensive, it was out of the question
@blushslice
@blushslice 10 ай бұрын
Your narration is so good I wouldn’t be surprised to see err hear you in a gaming doc
@reggiebenes2916
@reggiebenes2916 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue is that it was just priced too high. Although it wasn't much more than standard CD players at the time, their target market weren't the people that would be purchasing CD players. They should have spent the time and money developing a better stand alone disc system with Sony.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
As I recall, both Sega and Nintendo considered partnering with Sony but then backed out of the deal. Playstation's multi-generation success story is probably the biggest instance of "fine, I'll do it myself" in video game history.
@albertabramson3157
@albertabramson3157 2 жыл бұрын
One of the problems was that, a bit late in development, SEGA of Japan decided to expand it by adding nearly one megabyte of RAM, the custom ASIC, another 12MHz 68000, and a lot of extra hardware to play perfect arcade ports: none of which would ever come to market. Worse was the fact that SoJ decided to get costs back down by using a cheaper consumer grade laser for the CD-ROM itself., resulting in grainy FMV and cut scenes for a $500 addon. By the time it reached the U.S., SEGA had to lose money trying to sell the drive for $300, resulting in abysmal sales and very few developers jumping ship. Instead, they could've just used the 32-bit 68EC020 and built a new console with 4,096 colors like the Amiga CD32, not limited by the bandwidth and color limitations of the Megadrive/Genesis. Once the sales of Genesis began to decline, SEGA would already have a powerful 32-bit CD-ROM console on the market with a library of great games to move to... and no 32X/Saturn/Jupiter/Neptune debacle.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
@@albertabramson3157 on the one hand it would be cool to go back in time and tell Sega not to make the 32X and Sega CD, or at least make the CD add-on more reasonable as you suggest, and see what kind of parallel future arises where Sega might still be a power player in the games market. Newcomers like Xbox might never have come about in such an environment, or been failed upstarts like the 3DO. Playstation might not be the phenomenon it is now if the Sega's fifth gen console had been a more successful platform. Perhaps Atari's reentry into the market is a completely different machine than the Jaguar due to different technological pressures and they succeed, remaining a console maker into the 2000s. It's impossible to predict for certain, but fun to consider the possibilities. On the other hand, hard industry lessons were won and if avoided in the early days, they might have just been kicked down the road to smack someone in the face in a later generation. It'd be like going back in time to tell the folks making the Titanic all about the disaster. Save lots of lives, but then humanity's weird penchant for writing rules in blood isn't satisfied and we possibly we end up making the same mistakes about lack of lifeboats, wimpy rudders and constant radio communication. We'd also be losing out on a rather rich history that must include all those failures we enjoy the luxury of picking on in hindsight. Potential alternate timelines are interesting, but I'm pretty attached to this one, scars and all. I can never get enough of these documentaries talking about the years that might be considered the adolescent era of video game development, when the industry was suffering the equivalent of zits, growing pains and weird body hair, trying to figure out exactly what the heck it even was and what it was capable of doing with its life.
@AndysInfamousArcade
@AndysInfamousArcade 2 жыл бұрын
@@albertabramson3157 If someone mods the SEGA CD with an upgraded high end laser. Would the FMV still look grainy?
@johnjay6370
@johnjay6370 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysInfamousArcade He is wrong in his theory! The laser has nothing to do with the video being grainy. It was the lack of colors and CODEX being used. If you remember the quality did improve over its lifetime and that had nothing to do with the hardware and everything to do with the updated CODEX that were developed for it. The Sega CD was a whole lot of nothing. NEC(turobgrapx 16) Had a much better idea with how they implemented the CD tech. The Sega CD is big upgrade to the Sega Genesis but the SEGA CD still used the graphic chip on the Genesis so unless the programmers took advantage of the extra hardware for some effects, most games did not look that much better over the cart version. Meaning developers hardly used any of the extra hardware in the Sega CD and just increased the sound quality. Looking back the way they did the SEGA CD was a mistake. They could have just released a CD addon with a RAM cart like TurboGraph did. As Ram got cheaper they could have released ram carts with more RAM and that would have given us some great arcade ports. RAM and ROM were a big limiting factor during the 16-bit wars. Sega put 640k of ram in the SEGA CD and that was a lot, but not enough...Over all the SEGA CD to me was SOLID and not a failure. It was not the upgrade it could have been, but much better than the 32x....
@TheAshCooper
@TheAshCooper 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest downside was needing multiple adapters and a massive space to fit the sega mega CD and 32x
@JamesShow
@JamesShow 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video as a neat change-up. Felt like a throwback of sorts. That said I would love to hear more about the SegaCD boombox at the end of this video.
@dark4209
@dark4209 2 жыл бұрын
What could be worst than the Sega CD? Sega 32X: "Hold my beer." Keep up with these Console Failure Series.
@danieldavis2055
@danieldavis2055 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah - having the US and Japan wings of the company fighting against each other really was a bad idea.
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 2 жыл бұрын
Under-powered and hard to program for... Thats not even factoring in the marketing problem of having multiple consoles launch at once
@BurnedRetinas
@BurnedRetinas 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get my hands on a CD until just recently, my neighbor sold me his, which was just sitting in his attic for years. Only playing it a few times as a kid, mostly with Lunar: Silver Star, it remains very fascinating to me as a platform.
@HighDefBNG
@HighDefBNG 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I love a bit of Lady Decade in the afternoon. You seem to dig the same vibe I did from back in the day. Massive respect! Absolutely mega backing music selection.
@LordSephleon
@LordSephleon 2 жыл бұрын
I was the only one among my friends to own a Sega CD (I owned a first Generation console, the "block" that the Sega Genesis rests on as opposed to the later one that sits beside it), and I loved the console despite its lackluster library and low popularity. The FMV games were, at the time, awe-inspiring even if the "games" sucked, but the real gems were the RPGS (Lunar, Vay), strategy RPGs (Dark Wizard, Shining Force CD), and games like RIse of the Dragon and Snatcher. Ports of older games, like Final Fight CD and the 4-in-1 Classic Sega games that was packed in with the console, were also just absolutely great games, with Final Fight CD still being my favorite version of that game to this day. My friends warmed up to the system after playing some of its games at my house, but for a little while, I was the only die-hard fan of the console in my class. Also, I loved that many of the games could be played in CD players; I spent so many hours doing homework or working on my next D&D session with Final Fight CD, Lunar or Shining Force CD music blasting from my CD player. Note that I didn't learn of Snatcher until much later, but I totally would have played it consistently if I owned it back then. I owned - still own - the other games mentioned.
@smoothALOE
@smoothALOE 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a Sega CD in person was when I was at a friend’s house. His older brother had one. I thought it was incredible, haha! I enjoy playing it now, too.
@joe_schmoe_420
@joe_schmoe_420 2 жыл бұрын
Lunar and vay were amazing Loved my sega cdx
@hidarimak
@hidarimak 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. With over 200 games in its library, it had more support than probably any other console add-on. Sure there was shovelware (like with any video gaming system), but there were some must own titles as well. Besides the games you mentioned, Eternal Champions on the Sega CD was not the same game as on the Genesis, with much better controls and animation. Both Sonic CD and Flink were excellent platformers, and Heart of the Alien was the sequel to the often ported Out of this World (AKA "Another World), with that earlier game included on the disk as well. Lords of Thunder was one of the best video pinball games of the generation. Final Fight had larger sprites than the SNES version, and supported two players. The Sega CD supported excellent scaling effects, as evidenced by the game Soul Star, which Sega failed to capitalize on. (Why no ports of games like Power Drift or Galaxy Force, for example?) More valid than failed, IMO. Even the "blast processing" slogan is more warranted than many give credit for. The CPU in the Genesis/MegaDrive ran at 7.6 MHz, whereas the CPU in the SNES/Super Famicom ran at 3.58 MHz. That's why so many games from the first few years of Nintendo's unit were plagued with slowdown, such as in Gradius 3 or Thunder Spirits, or many of its sports titles. Developers were able to figure things out eventually, but while Sonic had 5 layers of parallax scrolling with high speed animations simultaneously, I don't recall any games for Nintendo's unit being able to match that. I'm not bashing Nintendo here, just trying to give Sega its due.
@mikeg2491
@mikeg2491 2 жыл бұрын
@@hidarimak what’s funny is a lot of people who hate on the Sega CD probably never owned more than 5-10 games as a kid per console to begin with, you could have easily built a similiar sized library of great games for the CD to justify owning one by picking out the gems.
@Melvinvanharn
@Melvinvanharn 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever have the pleasure of playing Popful Mail?
@sniper007uk
@sniper007uk 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. No helpful suggestions I’m afraid as I’m still working through the back catalogue and wouldn’t want to suggest something you’ve already done. All your retro gaming content is great and really well researched, so they’re a pleasure to watch. Also, since you asked…. Doodle pigeon ;-).
@brianoconnell6459
@brianoconnell6459 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the best things about the Turbographics CD ROM drive, was that it could double as a portable CD player. Something not one single game console would do, up until the Sega CDX platform, which incorporated the Megadrive and CD ROM drive into one ridiculously compact package. Expensive too, so much so that it's extremely rare and expensive today.
@GrumpyBearRawr
@GrumpyBearRawr 2 жыл бұрын
But you could take sega CD games and put them in a regular CD player and play the game tracks. Early PS1 games were like that too. I loved pausing Ridge Racer after it loaded a track and swapping my Korn CD.
@internetjunkie5241
@internetjunkie5241 2 жыл бұрын
It fills my heart with joy that someone converted Snatcher to work on a modded ps3 and a few other rare games for the sega cd .
@LadyDecade
@LadyDecade 2 жыл бұрын
One of my patrons is doing a remake of Snatcher and some of the original voice cast are reprising their roles x
@internetjunkie5241
@internetjunkie5241 2 жыл бұрын
@@LadyDecade that’s awesome.
@jeremybell9087
@jeremybell9087 2 жыл бұрын
I Love your content. I love your amazing knowledge about Games/Consoles. Stuff I always had questions about you have answered. The 3DO was my fav so far because I had one when I was a kid. Gex enter the Gecko was my and possibly still my fav game of all time. I don't have to tell you but please keep up the amazing work! 🙂
@DaniSarfati
@DaniSarfati 2 жыл бұрын
I think the “most 90s thing” was an obscure drink called orbitz. It wasn’t even around for a full year. I loved it though haha
@thaneros
@thaneros 2 жыл бұрын
Are you forgetting Surge?
@DaniSarfati
@DaniSarfati 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaneros haha, don't think we ever had that up in Canada!
@Guernicaman
@Guernicaman 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how well the SEGA CD could handle scaling & rotation FX, why SEGA never bothered to make "CD" versions of their popular ip's is something I'll never understand. If they wanted to do FMV games, that's fine, but ALSO be sure to invest in new fancy versions of games based on your arcade hits, which could now use the SEGA CD hardware. Imagine SEG CD versions of OutRun, After Burner, Space Harrier, Super Thunderblade, Power Drift, Outrunners & more! With hardware scaling & rotation, plus redbook CD-quality audio & extra modes & features that could fill up a CD, don't tell me those titles wouldn't be a hit. Also, the fact SEGA was able to pull off a great 2 player port of Final Fight meant they could've done the same for Captain Commando, Michael Jackson's Moonwalker Arcade, The Punisher, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs Arcade, King of Dragons & stuff like Knights of the Round. Heck, they could've perhaps even done a decent port of Golden Axe Revenge of Death Adder (maybe).
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
I blame sega for releasing a add-on where they don't know how to program its hardware.
@Guernicaman
@Guernicaman 2 жыл бұрын
@@maroon9273 - But they did know. They just didn't take it seriously enough to produce those aforementioned games themselves. Instead, they relied heavily on 3rd party publishers to do it for them.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guernicaman very sad, even the 32x had more 1st party support early on than the sega cd due to the hardware and mixing video/audio cables.
@BaronLector
@BaronLector 2 жыл бұрын
With the release of WWF Rage in the Cage, I almost sold my SNES to buy a Sega CD. Almost. I dodged that bullet.
@brunomoraes9967
@brunomoraes9967 2 жыл бұрын
Doodlepidgeon. Great vid as usual! A vid about the cinematic platformer genre would be SO great!!!
@szlash280z
@szlash280z 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I bought with my first pay check from my first real job was a Sega CD from a Pawn Shop for $100 in the summer of 1995. I loved that thing. It was already "dead" at that point but I was able to buy all kinds of games real cheap for it because of that reason. Lunar 1 & 2, Wing Commander and Snatcher were my favorite games that I had for it. Man I was SO GOOD at Wing Commander on Sega CD! I miss it. My Sega CD was the type 2 but my Genesis was Type 1. It hung off the side of it and looked so stupid but it was awesome!
@saintcrock
@saintcrock 2 жыл бұрын
I love your catch phrase, and it's origin story!!! Never fails to make me smile and chuckle. ❤️
@kytaem
@kytaem 9 ай бұрын
Your videos are so high quality, you really deserve way more viewers and hope you get them
@cabbitkisser2620
@cabbitkisser2620 2 жыл бұрын
my mom & dad bought me the sega cd 2 for Christmas & it came with sewer shark. over the time i did picked up a few games for it. i did picked up popful mail. it was an ok game. but i wish sega did more with the sega cd by adding more colors & have better graphics to make it equal or better then the snes
@evildoba
@evildoba 2 жыл бұрын
love the back to the future "it's a babies toy" reference. great video, Lady Decade!
@JammerJay
@JammerJay 2 жыл бұрын
In my very early 20s, I bought one of the original Sega CD models for almost $400 brand new around Christmas time of 1992 or 93. I ended up selling it, roughly 30 years later, for a nice chunk of change to a collector in 2019, at my new bride's behest. Moral of the story: don't marry someone that doesn't understand the sentimental value of your video game collection or else it may get liquidated. 😆 jk
@JammerJay
@JammerJay 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whats.Next.Videos, marriage is a good thing. At least, mine is. I simply wish I had not discussed how much it was worth in front of my wife. *lol*
@redstratus97
@redstratus97 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily I married a gamer who understands why I have my small collection and how important gaming is to me. She has physical PC game collection. Mine is console games. Today she plays on Steam while I still play on console. Her first gift to me while dating was Uncharted 2 for the PS3. That’s when I knew I had to keep her.
@JammerJay
@JammerJay 2 жыл бұрын
@David Mander, sounds like you may have had a bad experience. Unfortunately, that happens all too often these days.
@robzilla730
@robzilla730 2 жыл бұрын
$400?? I bought mine back then for $213. I remember it cost that much because m3 & my cousin pooled our resources to get it. ballpark figure, how much did you get for it? I had mine, still working up until a few yrs ago. still worked. lol
@skwashua
@skwashua Жыл бұрын
I sold a very large sega collection a few years into marriage. Admittedly we didn’t really have the storage space, but I do regret it now.
@TheRealDustinNunn
@TheRealDustinNunn 2 жыл бұрын
The best Sega CD/Sega Mega CD add-on is the model 2 Sega CD/Sega Mega CD add-on.
@djmance198
@djmance198 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I adored the Sega CD system. I was hooked the first time I played Sewer Shark. I still enjoy playing FMV games, which are my favorites.
@ghostito
@ghostito 2 жыл бұрын
Great content as always, and since you ask about possible ideas for videos, what about a twist to this one with the counter video about How could the Mega CD had been a success? I mean, it has some great games that really show what could've been possible with this machine, like the Batman or any Core Design games, titles that use the scaling and rotating capabilities in a great way and led us to imagine some arcade scalers ports for the system; had Sega focused on that instead of FMV games this machine could've been a little more successful. Or not...
@zerogravity6990
@zerogravity6990 2 жыл бұрын
I was always interested in buying a Sega CD but there were only a couple of interesting games for me. I think Sega CD failed because Sega was focused on action/arcade games and these do not necessarily need CD technology. This blue AIWA controller looks gorgeous!
@arashjahn
@arashjahn 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! Maybe something about MSU-1 games would be intriguing.
@gabealterio2219
@gabealterio2219 2 жыл бұрын
Those are a riot, been playing them on a sd2snes for over 6 months now.
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 2 жыл бұрын
This console should've been the way Sega continued forward. I mean that too, used a the cartridge port for memory carts and you can still play your old Genesis games on it too 😉
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 11 ай бұрын
So basically, a Saturn, but with its cartridge port being for more than just memory.
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 ай бұрын
​@@zacharyrollick6169 yup
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 3 ай бұрын
@@greenkoopa It would have greatly helped Saturn sales.
@JamieKitchens6
@JamieKitchens6 2 жыл бұрын
That was a brutal journey. I don't usually feel so deeply about a topic, but you nailed this one.
@ARHaslage
@ARHaslage 2 жыл бұрын
I had the second generation of both the Genesis and CD. With the 32X, this is my favorite video game console setup. To this day, I regret selling it and my games. Luckily, I have gotten everything back but Knuckles Chaotix on newer hardware.
@deadninjastorage6160
@deadninjastorage6160 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my Sega CD. It had the best version of Sonic and imo the best port of Final Fight on any console, and that’s including the arcade version.
@josexestevez
@josexestevez 2 жыл бұрын
your channel is GOLD!! glad I've found it!! 😎🎮👍
@khiladi
@khiladi 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, your channel is one of the best, you always give us top info with a twisted humor, really jilarious. Hey, I loved my cousin Amstrad 464 XDDDD It could be great a vide about retro accesories, legal (like the shega phot) or not solike Datel cheat and exploid cartidges and cds or the playstation 1 game blaster game enhacer to play in any ragion console.
@nateamshey
@nateamshey 2 жыл бұрын
Doodle Pidgeon and love the content. Always very informative.
@42ndStreetMatthew
@42ndStreetMatthew 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content as always. Would love a Jaguar/Jaguar CD doc!
@abcmaya
@abcmaya 2 жыл бұрын
If only Sega put the power of the 32x into the Sega CD and made it as a stand alone system. That would've been a dream come true.
@michaeldemers2716
@michaeldemers2716 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I got a Everdrive MD Pro before the War. Hope it ends soon. So sad.☹
@timothylewis2527
@timothylewis2527 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that "What are you waiting for Nintendo to make one!?" commercial. I felt like it was a personal attack 😂
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 2 жыл бұрын
I got to play Sega CD at a friend's house when the Sega CD was at retail. We laughed at how hokey some of the games were, but there were really good games for it too. I am glad I made a RetroPie so I can enjoy Sega CD games without spending hundreds of dollars on snatcher, rise of the dragon, keios flying squadron, shining Force CD, final fight CD, and the Lunar Games.
@demonsty
@demonsty 2 жыл бұрын
retro pie respect and represent!
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 2 жыл бұрын
@@demonsty it's the only way to go these days with the insane prices on every video game.
@demonsty
@demonsty 2 жыл бұрын
@@marccaselle8108 i know man. my life is divided into two parts. before retro pie and after retro pie!
@trtlphnx
@trtlphnx 2 жыл бұрын
Love You And Your Incredibly, Informative Channel ~ I'm A Gamer And Over 60 Now; Loved Night-Trap and Sewer Shark ~
@hepwo91222
@hepwo91222 2 жыл бұрын
My fave Sega CD games, Final Fight CD, Sonic CD, Silpheed, and Lords of Thunder.
@SegaCDUniverse
@SegaCDUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
I knew I heard a Sega CD video cropping up over here! NICE!
@Nelbroth
@Nelbroth 2 жыл бұрын
If Sega had come out the gate swinging with the Snatchers and Final Fights instead of the FMV shovelware we got at launch, it would've been a day 1 purchase for me.
@mrtiff99
@mrtiff99 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very funny. Thanks
@earlosandwich7433
@earlosandwich7433 2 жыл бұрын
Good info, Lady Century.
@shannonshepherd5365
@shannonshepherd5365 3 ай бұрын
Man, you’re taking me back, I forgot all about that Sherlock Homes game 😊
@_kikaso
@_kikaso 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so well written and funny
@aquilaastral2102
@aquilaastral2102 2 жыл бұрын
You pull the like out of me without asking, on every video, is my genuine reaction for when you say something clever or make me laugh :D
@aquilaastral2102
@aquilaastral2102 2 жыл бұрын
The fuzzy picture frame... LMAO!
@loganmartin1682
@loganmartin1682 2 жыл бұрын
Doodle Pigeon! I like your style, especially the ludicrous comments interjected throughout the narrative. Straight to the top!
@colinewen8536
@colinewen8536 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Lady Decade . Do pigeon's doodle? More to the point do they do it well?
@willwidrick8039
@willwidrick8039 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Toys R us discounting Sega CDS to $20, I wish I had purchased one back then
@TheWarmotor
@TheWarmotor 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my SegaCD :) I wish they'd made more use of the scaling/rotation functionality but I had a lot of fun with it.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
Scaler chip was difficult to program due the add-on having any video in/out cables connecting to the genesis. If the chip was a enhancement chip instead of being part of the sega cd. We would see more scaler games.
@InJeffable
@InJeffable 2 жыл бұрын
As cool as the Sega CD looked back in the day, it was still just an add-on for the Genesis. $300 was too high a price for an add-on. It should have been priced at half that amount even if Sega would have had to sell it at a loss for a while. They fixed the add-on pricing problem with the 32X ($160), but Sega of Japan unfortunately harpooned that one by focusing on the Saturn.
@lazarushernandez5827
@lazarushernandez5827 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Back then consoles weren't really known for their add ons, home computers of the era? Sure, they needed a tape or floppy disc drive to get the most functionality out of them. For a console, adding these peripherals especially expensive ones, just served to split the userbase. The larger user base is always going to get priority from the developers, if they had time they would develop something for the CD, but more often they'd take the safer route of re-releasing a cartridge title with maybe some enhancements (mainly CD audio). Of course being among the first to do this sort of thing, Sega didn't have the foresight to know that things could go this way.
@thaneros
@thaneros 2 жыл бұрын
But we're talking about a cutting edge(for the time) add on.
@InJeffable
@InJeffable 2 жыл бұрын
True, but you have to keep your market in mind. By and large, their market was working and middle class parents. $300 for an add-on was undoubtedly a hard sell for those parents in 1992. That's $608 in today's money. Imagine a $600 add-on being released for the PS5. Even a single adult gamer with a decent income would probably scoff at that.
@bkslsh
@bkslsh 2 жыл бұрын
I still love the Sega CD today. It's a highly ambitious, overcomplicated machine, and the game library is really wacky with some hidden gems.
@MrCumstein
@MrCumstein 2 жыл бұрын
The combo of the model one Genesis and the model one Sega CD is still bad-ass looking. Perhaps the best looking setup I’ve still ever seen.
@Thekinggamelon
@Thekinggamelon 2 жыл бұрын
20:15 Let's not forget it was also that same day when the then president of NOA Howard Lincoln stated that Night Trap would never be released on any Nintendo console, only for two decades later...Night Trap Anniversary edition available on Switch. Howard: WHAT THE HELL, REGGIE?! WHAT DID I JUST SAID? Reggie: Not my problem.
@lazarushernandez5827
@lazarushernandez5827 2 жыл бұрын
Man, they really overreacted to Night Trap back in the day. They saw that one seen of the girl being attacked by the vampire/ghouls and freaked the heck out. Nevermind that your mission in the game was to prevent those things from happening, and the game never showed you the full scene. All of the media attention actually gave the game a resurgence in sales.
@AcornElectron
@AcornElectron 2 жыл бұрын
Price, fmv, not just plug and play simplicity of standalone. And obviously a bit of hubris. Keep up the good work lass and, as always, stay safe!
@sleepinglionarchives
@sleepinglionarchives 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the look back. I had the add-on and enjoyed it at the time, but I'd picked mine up used after a library had actually grown a bit. As a US viewer, the constant digs at our product ads and product appearances is tiresome. For those of us who grew up with these things, we've attached emotional and nostalgic value that seems irrelevant in your takedowns. It's easy to look backwards at these things and poke fun, but at the time, we kind of just went with it
@bryanx0317
@bryanx0317 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of games was all hype in the commercials. When you tried your friend's Sega CD, it was soon apparent he got ripped off...
@notaexistingchannel
@notaexistingchannel 2 жыл бұрын
Doodle pidgin. I keep coming to this channel for the crazy consoles and other variations I didn't know about, so some more of that please?
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 2 жыл бұрын
The prohibitive cost was the main reason for it's downfall. I knew loads of people who owned a Mega Drive, but not one who owned a Mega-CD. Despite most people being aware of it.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, lack of games that utilize its chipset except fmv games.
@davidbarlee4722
@davidbarlee4722 2 жыл бұрын
Lady Decade have you ever covered the Amiga CDTV ? With you doing the 3DO & CD-I it could make interesting viewing for your channel :-) ( love the channel by the way !)
@Rturn2609
@Rturn2609 2 жыл бұрын
I loved me Mega CD! I still have it to this day along with my Mega Drive (Japanese import) Still looking for a few missed games from years gone by. But oh the memories I had playing it. Sad I know, I LOVED Night Trap, Sonic CD to name just two!
@Disthron
@Disthron 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, why do people seem to hate the Mega CD 2 so much?! I think it looks great. I lament that the Sega CD didn't get it's due recognition. Sure it could play video but the other enhancement chips inside were capable of so much more and games like Soulstar and The Adventures of Batman & Robin really show this off.
@pnsmexico
@pnsmexico 2 жыл бұрын
why did it take almost a year for MEGA drive CD to arrive in the US when the sales of the Mega Drive in Japan was worse than the PC Engine in Japan, and the sales of the Sega Genesis in the US was selling by the millions and even outselling Nintendo?
@SalamanderLights
@SalamanderLights 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta appreciate how much this channel likes Green Jelly's Sega Genesis soundtrack work for the Spider-Man games lol.
@Buckdawg
@Buckdawg 10 ай бұрын
Idea for a future video... 3D in gaming... Can cover the virtual boy, 3DS, PS Stereoscopic gaming, early VR, leading into the eventual relaunch of VR. Would be cool to chronicle the level of immersion over the years, and getting a feel for where it's gonna lead :D
@kenknight5983
@kenknight5983 2 жыл бұрын
Diminishing returns for Sega from this point on. Probably a lot of lessons to be learned from their behind the scenes management
@jasonshouseoffunandvideoga7169
@jasonshouseoffunandvideoga7169 10 ай бұрын
Lots of great info in this vid. The system is my favorite to collect for. 💪🔥🙌🎃
@RetroRespawn
@RetroRespawn 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic opening line! (doodle pigeon)
@brianbojarski7721
@brianbojarski7721 2 жыл бұрын
The system would have benefited more from games like Sonic CD or something similar to Rondo of Blood (not a actual port of it, but a Castlevania Game on the Sega CD.......it might have helped)
@lifeIsSpacexTimexBodyxChaos
@lifeIsSpacexTimexBodyxChaos 2 жыл бұрын
👏Beautiful execution (Bravo) ...😁
@JaimieRain
@JaimieRain 2 жыл бұрын
I remember it so well. Oceania kinda mirrored UK/Eu in consoles, as in Sega reigned supreme and Nintendo was a lesser known beast, and in 1993 I had a Master System, as did my peers, (it was still going strong in New Zealand then), so when the MegaCD ccame out it just looked sooo unattainable, most of us didn't even have Mega Drives at this point. The flashy graphics and whatnot were just somthing we could dream about. And there werent many games, I remember the shelves at the stores with loads of Mega Drive and Master System games, but MegaCd just had n more than 10 titles on the shelves, and they all looked gimmicky, an INXS game for example. To me a 10 year old though, I always thought, if its more expensive, has amazing graphics like that, then it must be soooo much better. And to this day, I have never even played or seen a MegaCd except one time in a 2nd hand store in like 1997. ANd herein lies the problem, they just flooded the market with stuff, addons, new gaming devices etc.. I was at the point where I got a Mega Drive in 1995 and now was like....well....if I get the MegaCD what if it goes away? theres still like 10 games on the shelves, no one has one, you cant rent any at the video store, and they have a 32X and a Saturn out now too....and I thik it was like that for everyone else too, brand loyatly, but they shaft you by putting something out then discontinuing making games for it. They really should have just focused on it a bit longer, never made a 32X and then put out the Saturn in 95 or 96. Silly and greedy marketing was their doom. They should have been more patient.
@paulwestphal7336
@paulwestphal7336 2 жыл бұрын
Do an episode on Core Design and their work on the Sega CD.
@brichan1851
@brichan1851 2 жыл бұрын
You are a true gaming historian and a woman after my own heart. I love this video and all payout others! Great great job.
@robzilla730
@robzilla730 2 жыл бұрын
SUBBED!! 90s retro gaming RULEZZ!!
@OnlyEpicEmber
@OnlyEpicEmber 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like you to cover the Gizmondo also doodle pigeon, because yes
@DesertRainReads
@DesertRainReads 2 жыл бұрын
Doodle Pigeon! XD All that aside, I would love to hear you cover the Fatal Frame/Project Zero franchise.
@MrCarpediem6
@MrCarpediem6 2 жыл бұрын
great vid/content
@christlevania5933
@christlevania5933 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the maximum carnage soundtrack in the background. 👍
@Yakobu90
@Yakobu90 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just mention my favourite Amiga CD-16 game, Too Shrewd Dudes?
@icollectstories5702
@icollectstories5702 2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if Sega had put more effort into music video releases for their system that they'd've been more successful. Music videos would have been attractive to their teen demographic. A subscription service that would mail out compilations of popular videos sounds like a winner to me.
@Fat_Kids_Jiggle
@Fat_Kids_Jiggle Жыл бұрын
I remember playin Sewer Shark at a Sams Club as a kid and being blown away
@craigdavidson5613
@craigdavidson5613 2 жыл бұрын
I happened to be at the right place, at the right time with the Sega systems. I found a Sega Mega Drive Model 1 at a local charity shop for $5AU. It came in a Nuby case, and had two controllers. I tested it out, and it still worked perfectly. I then got myself a Sega Mega CD Model 1, and a Sega 32X for it. Now I have a good selection of games for it, and the combined system works perfectly, even to this very day. I absolutely love the system, given its abilities and variety, and let me tell you, it's worth the effort getting it.
@louispodob
@louispodob 2 жыл бұрын
I was the only one out of all my mates who had one back in 93,and we were all blown away by the fmv games, sonic cd and final fight cd. You had to own one back in the day to understand the unique experience in the small window of time before the playstation owned the world. The library of games is really different,lots of diversity and quite a few diamonds in the rough. The amount of games with unbelievable soundtracks is the real deal if you can get past the minimal graphics upgrade that dogged the system.Lady decade watch sega lord x the sega cd unsung add on. It might change your perspective on the subject
@kristopherbell7158
@kristopherbell7158 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the game music producers of the 16bit era...
@debrebuf1
@debrebuf1 2 жыл бұрын
Doodle Pigeon. Hey Lady D, I would very much like an episode focussing on the Sega CD 32X games. Thank you!
@joshuaerickson1969
@joshuaerickson1969 2 жыл бұрын
Got the SEGA CD in 1993 and it was amazing and cobra command with 3D sound and Rebel Assault and flashback CD and Sonic CD .
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 2 жыл бұрын
Star wars rebel assault was fun. I first played it on DOS then later Sega CD.
@owen800xl
@owen800xl 2 жыл бұрын
Ever thought of doing a video of when Gamestation ordered a mass destruction (which they worded as recycling) of approx 90% of their retro stock in 2008 after Game took over. I worked in for the store the time it happened and read the emails from head office and even remember reading through the (very small) list of titles that they weren't going to destroy. Always curious how it never seems to be covered online by anyone... but maybe not enough material for a full video.
@ChristopherR1981
@ChristopherR1981 11 сағат бұрын
I owned the JVC version and originally was impressed with the FMV stuff like prize fighter, that's until technology like saturn, N64 and PS1 was around... then my sega CD just collected dust. I loaned it out to my cousin and forgotten about it. The JVC consol version sells for almost $1000 now because it's collectable.
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