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Why didn't Belgium get more land after World War One? (Short Animated Documentary)
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Ай бұрынDespite a terrible occupation and suffering immense damage, Belgium received very little territorial compensation after World War One. So why didn't it get more despite asking for more? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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@Ray-xq3cx Ай бұрын
Least insane Belgian politicians:
@utredmaethor769 Ай бұрын
We still have them with 6 government today now 💀
@seronymus Ай бұрын
Idk in hindsight they seemed pretty reasonable
@idontlikerome2744 Ай бұрын
MAKE ME POPE!
@ninonysoft6865 Ай бұрын
@@seronymus punishing the Netherlands for being neutral is not reasonable? It would be like punishing Switzerland or Sweden for being neutral. It will set a horrible precedence that you need to pick a side, and demanding land from the Netherlands would just alienate and antagonize the Netherlands in the future. Doing so would've probably had the Dutch joining Germany in WW2 instead.
@seronymus Ай бұрын
@@ninonysoft6865 nah I mean firstly consider the butterfly effect, there would have likely been no WW2 at all, God knows. Plus I mainly meant Belgium getting land from Germany. The Entente should have just made a smaller Kingdom of the Germans.
@angelb.823 Ай бұрын
"Today's weather: Look outside idiot". Had me rolling :)
@galatheumbreon6862 Ай бұрын
wait, time stamp?
@Wolfe1966 Ай бұрын
@@galatheumbreon6862 read the paper😂
@angelb.823 Ай бұрын
@@galatheumbreon68620:19
@channel_lurker Ай бұрын
fellow news paper enjoyer, you to have heard where the shells come from!
@CloudWalkBeta Ай бұрын
i gotta get me a copy of that newspaper.
@obiwanfx Ай бұрын
fun fact: a 110 years later these parts are still speaking German and don't give a toss about the Flemish vs French speaking struggles, basically making them the happiest out of all the Belgians
@SubNL96 Ай бұрын
Yep they are called "the last Belgians" bc they were final to join, but also bc they are said to be the last ones to fully believe in the concept of a Belgian indentity, at is means they don't have to be Germans...
@Wazkaty Ай бұрын
@@SubNL96 Interesting, didn't know that !
@AnasSaahirHuq-or9bv Ай бұрын
@@SubNL96They still speak German and I doubt they would ever switch to Flemish or French, also their ancestral history and culture is mostly with Germany not the Low Countries. They are only Belgians because of current politics.
@FragLord Ай бұрын
@@AnasSaahirHuq-or9bv Correct. I've had an ex that lived near Eupen, both German speaking parents. If they wanted to do something special, usually they would go to Germany. Especially when it came to things like the movies or leisure stuff. They also spoke a bit of Dutch and French. And from Eupen you are "close" to Maastricht, Liege and Köln. Most German speaking Belgians go to Germany at least once during the Christmas holidays. Especially since the Köln X-mass market is world famous. Their nationality is Belgian, but their culture very much feels German. Just like the other groups in Belgium, they all share a nationality, but have their own separate Culture, language, tv stations, etc. Since the German part is so small, many to most German speakers tune into the German TV stations. That might be part of the explanation why the German speakers aren't as politically involved as they could be. Also it's demographical. There are not even 80 000 German speakers in Belgium on a total of 11 000 000 people. For people not knowing this. The German community in Belgium has their own government and a decent degree of autonomy. And if you look at their political parties, you can clearly see that it doesn't line up with the rest of Belgium.
@SamBrockmann Ай бұрын
There's happy Belgians? My whole world is rocked.
@jorenbosmans8065 Ай бұрын
Belgian politicians couldn't agree in what they want. Some things really never change.
@Thanadeez Ай бұрын
You’re right about that one
@Pr0m3th3us Ай бұрын
And the more they change the more they stay the same.
@DoomsYann Ай бұрын
Ikr
@m1234ee Ай бұрын
😭
@hoilst265 Ай бұрын
I have a belgian mate I used to mock about him being without a government longer than Iraq after the invasion...
@D2RCR Ай бұрын
0:20 I love that the newspaper actually has readable text this time. I hope Dave's son liked his new pointy helmet.
@MesaperProductions Ай бұрын
The newspapers usually have readable text. And are *well* worth reading!
@channel_lurker Ай бұрын
news paper gang hooooooO!
@Alpha1200 Ай бұрын
I hadn't read it until I saw this comment. Omg, it was hilarious.
@howiehall4622 Ай бұрын
So happy they brought it back!
@cbjlbal915 Ай бұрын
Dave? Even Dave?
@ryanmann1416 Ай бұрын
They wanted more waffles, not land
@bluecontroller6857 Ай бұрын
They actually wanted land lmao did you even watch the video I know, its a joke I made
@JerdyKhagan Ай бұрын
@@bluecontroller6857 he is straight up lying it was cuz of wafles remember when randam belgian said we need rhineland because wafles were ocupied and stolen into germany by germans
@aaroncousins4750 Ай бұрын
@@bluecontroller6857u missed the joke.
@Ynhockey Ай бұрын
There was a famous song by Georgian-Russian singer-songwriter Bulat Okudzhava about a war where they won and took pryaniki (honey gingerbread cookies) as loot. Doesn't sound too implausible for Belgium :D
@jonbaxter2254 Ай бұрын
Chocolate waffles, mmm
@threaruscamuwundra7417 Ай бұрын
That newspaper at 0:20 is some top quality journalism
@2Links Ай бұрын
there is a typo (France will get the place if lost -> it lost) but definitely great stuff
@rosiefay7283 Ай бұрын
If only it were readable.
@Ggdivhjkjl Ай бұрын
@@2LinksHow can you be sure that's a mistake?
@2Links Ай бұрын
@@Ggdivhjkjl how would it not be when they're referring to Alsace-Lorraine? genuinely curious how it could be anything but a typo
@hebl47 Ай бұрын
@@rosiefay7283 Maybe you need to get some better glasses, mate. Or not watch it on a 5 inch screen.
@hammer3721 Ай бұрын
'The Entente was never going to punish Luxembourg for being invaded.' Montenegro: Wait, wait! That was an option?!
@CCCPRusRus Ай бұрын
Different scenario. Both Serbia and Montenegro agreed on uniting to form Yugoslavia.
@hammer3721 Ай бұрын
@@CCCPRusRus That's why 100 years later the Parliament of Montenegro declared that the union had been in breach of Montengrin law?
@CCCPRusRus Ай бұрын
@@hammer3721 Keyword: 100 years later
@hammer3721 Ай бұрын
@@CCCPRusRus Key word: Nikola, the King of Montenegro, had been protesting for several years after the end of the war that the Serbs usurped his throne. But sure, go ahead and ignore all the irregularities, legal or othwerise, with Montenegro's integration within Yugoslavia. Looking at your user name, I shouldn't be reall surprised, though.
@mybodyisamachine Ай бұрын
@@hammer3721 montenegro and serbia are basically the same it's honestly surprising they didn't just assimilate after being annexed for 100 years
@guilhermecesar9185 Ай бұрын
"Well, first of all a lot of things that some politicians are asking for are nuts!" - Best descrition of a regular politician ever!
@mahieuwim Ай бұрын
"Give us the Moon" I laughed. Out loud, even.
@SeverityOne Ай бұрын
And don't forget Kyushu (one of Japan's main islands).
@ellismarquez8410 Ай бұрын
Anyone familiar with MetaBallStudios knows that is not a good thing.
@algonquin91 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: The Belgian city of Eupen is where the parliament for Belgium‘s German-speaking population is located. The cultural region of Ostbelgien or East Belgium is the name given to the areas where this community is concentrated.
@dabbasw31 Ай бұрын
Fun fact II: Eupen is a town with less than 20,000 inhabitans. If it belonged to Germany today it would probably be a small town in Germany hardly anyone would know or care about.
@jackpavlik563 Ай бұрын
I’ve went to Eupen for a music festival, worth the visit. If you go into a shop the workers will speak either French or German, if you respond with a dumb look they will switch to the other language in a half second.
@dabbasw31 Ай бұрын
@@jackpavlik563 Kinda like in Disneyland Paris. While I was still trying to understand the spoken French they already spoke in English to me. 🙃
@jrcat2258 Ай бұрын
Can't they give it back already?
@hirocheeto7795 Ай бұрын
@@jrcat2258 Why would they? It wouldn't contribute much to Germany and has already been Belgian for over 100 years. Seems like a lot of bureaucratic hassle for some town.
@looinrims Ай бұрын
“They accept we will occupy everything west of the rhine and steal everything not nailed to the ground.” Saarland: “he’s not kidding”
@timmccarthy9917 Ай бұрын
2:19 Belgium getting Rwanda (and Burundi) led to them establishing a minority Tutsi ruling class over the Hutu majority, which was one factor causing hatred against the Tutsi which culminated in the 1994 genocide. Great job Belgium, managing African colonies splendidly as usual.
@timmccarthy9917 Ай бұрын
To clarify, Tutsi domination of Hutus was not invented by the Belgians. But they sure threw their whole weight behind it.
@CultureCrossed64 Ай бұрын
Don't forget that that genocide wouldn't have been possible (or at least not nearly as destructive) without the direct military aid the French were giving to the Hutu.☠️ maybe it's the language
@utredmaethor769 Ай бұрын
I had this subject at my exam two weeks earlier. It's REALLY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT, and all the thing between Hutu and Tutsi begins even BEFORE the arrival of germans and belgians (Belgians didn't help it though, they had an european vision about the people, not an african vision, really complicated topic...) it's a MESS. I wanted to cried during the exam because of the three documents that we have to analyse were so complicated 😭😭
@jeremybertz796 Ай бұрын
Its easy to blame the colonizer of a genocide that happened 30+ years after independence
@AH-sp8vi Ай бұрын
@@jeremybertz796good explanation. Hope the exam went well!
@justtheilluminativ282 Ай бұрын
Good video ideas: - Did Belgium really have no government in 2010? - Why does Namibia have a panhandle? - Did pharaohs really put curses on their graves? - Why does Venezuela claim half of Guyana? - Why did France keep French Guiana, New Caledonia, and Réunion? - How did America’s adversaries react to 9/11? - Why does India own the Andaman Islands? - Why did Germany support Ethiopia in 1935? - How did Spain survive the 1848 Revolutions? - Why did Montenegro declare war on Japan in 1904? - Why do Nebraska and Maine split their votes? - Why was Portugal allowed to join NATO in 1949 despite not being democratic? - Why are Rwanda and Mozambique in the Commonwealth?
@Zadlo14 Ай бұрын
"Why does India own the Andaman Islands?" The wildest part of that is Andaman Islands were Danish colony until 1868. And they were Austrian colony for 6 years because they thought Denmark abandoned these islands.
@cynicat74 Ай бұрын
"Why did Montenegro declare war on Japan in 1904?" - WHAT I need to know this, too, now.
@justtheilluminativ282 Ай бұрын
@@cynicat74 apparently, Montenegro declared war on Japan in 1904 as a sign of support for Russia. While there was no official fighting, a Montenegrin killed a Japanese samurai in a fight
@obiwanfx Ай бұрын
- Did Belgium really have no government in 2010? We indeed did not for over a year, however the system states that the old government stays in place until a new one is officially formed and accepted by the king (this is 99.99% ceremonial but wathever). The old government is called 'government of current affairs" until the new one is sworn in. SO no new laws, higher appointments, trade deals, etc. for 400+ days indeed.....Many of us remember it as the smoothest time the country ever ran
@bruhbruh-us6gl Ай бұрын
@@justtheilluminativ282 The japanese are very lucky that montenegrin space marines didn’t actually end up fighting in the far east
@looinrims Ай бұрын
The weather section of the London news is always accurate
@humbertoquackenbush3932 Ай бұрын
It’s due to James Bisonette being spiteful to Belgium
@arifhossain9751 Ай бұрын
Kelly Moneymaker sold the land for cash
@utredmaethor769 Ай бұрын
James Bisonette ? Who is he ? And why he hated Belgium ?
@BorkersBork Ай бұрын
Dont forget Kushowolf 🤭🤭
@leeham1405 Ай бұрын
Can't say I blame him to be fair
@tom13king Ай бұрын
Who wouldn't?
@jeffreybrewer8649 Ай бұрын
Using the Magritte at the end was a nice touch
@Louis-sq3ws Ай бұрын
To be fair, he always uses that background for the credits. But it fits especially well when the video is about Belgium.
@Elitist20 Ай бұрын
Also, Tintin would be copyright. And Jean Claude van Damme would just be silly.
@steveweidig5373 Ай бұрын
@@Elitist20 How about Hercule Poirot then?
@christopherbowen1836 Ай бұрын
2:03 - I love the fine print at the bottom.
@Martmij07 Ай бұрын
0:20 you know he had fun writing these headlines
@dapylot1227 Ай бұрын
"Today's weather. Try looking outside. Idiot." Lol
@mellon4251 Ай бұрын
You should make teritorial gains on maps in a different colour, not just the before and after picture in the same. Sometimes its really hard to see what new one percent got added to a complex shape. Nice video overall though :)
@akhasshativeritsol1950 Ай бұрын
Definitely! I was feeling the same thing
@jeffreybrewer8649 Ай бұрын
2:04 The fine print get smaller, but we can still see it !!
@ellismarquez8410 Ай бұрын
I was imagining the Looney Tunes Rubber Band music playing while I read it.
@AlexanderRM1000 Ай бұрын
They did at least ask the Irish and the Poles at the end of WW1, which is when they came up with this rule
@francis_p Ай бұрын
1:10 They wanted the mouth of the Scheldt river for a reason. It commands the entrance to the port of Antwerp. But as the estuary is held by the Netherlands, it was closed at the outset of the war to respect neutrality, thus hurting the Belgian effort. Also the Dutch were suspected of trying to suffocate Antwerp to make more business for Rotterdam.
@JusticeMildenberg Ай бұрын
I was just wondering this the other day!
@pigeononbread5477 Ай бұрын
I think a video on why south korea has been through so many republics would be cool
@2Links Ай бұрын
actually good idea
@napoleonfeanor Ай бұрын
Military coups.
@Ggdivhjkjl Ай бұрын
Imperialist occupation causes instability.
@kingofcards9516 Ай бұрын
Because Republics are pretty unstable.
@royale7620 Ай бұрын
@@Ggdivhjkjl" imperialist " 🤓🤓 clown 16 y/o redditor
@mullermylonas Ай бұрын
The reason why there were thoughts about Belgium annexing Luxembourg after the war was not "to punish Luxembourg for being invaded" but because Grand Duchess Marie Adelaide of Luxembourg was accused of collaborating with Germany during the war (and eventually had to abdicate mainly for that reason). Ultimately Belgium found little to no support among its allies, UK and France, for its grand designs so they had to be abandoned.
@MM22966 Ай бұрын
A salute to HM, who probably went back & forth in the map editor adding/subtracting these proposed border changes.
@ConnorQuimby Ай бұрын
Earlier this year I went to Eastern Belgium for a day whilst on a Europe trip and specifically went to go see the German speaking part. Took a bit of a scenic route; a train up from Luxembourg to St. Vith, then a bus to Malmedy, and then another bus from Malmedy to Verviers, then the train from Verviers to Helgerath in the German speaking part. I then walked from Helgerath to Kelmis and did the tour of Neutral Moresnet before walking up the Vaalserberg (the tripoint of Limburg, Belgium, and Germany) and descending down the Dutch side. The countryside of Eastern Belgium was stunningly beautiful. All the chapels and cathedrals I saw had plaques to the men who died in the first world war (and second for the more firmly Belgian parts), on both sides. The fields and paths were beautiful, Kelmis was beautiful... It was somewhat refreshing to be in German speaking part because its so small and also I don't speak French. I wanted to do the railcar ride on the Belgian railroad that cuts off Germany but unfortunately it was closed for the season. It's a rural area, but if you like history, and like deep travel, I highly recommend.
@valmid5069 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for more historical content from this channel!
@marmalade101 Ай бұрын
what i love the most in these videos is to pause at the newspaper and read the articles
@hanswoast7 Ай бұрын
Said railway is called "Vennbahn" and it is quite a strange border.
@AB-on1on Ай бұрын
Fun fact: the rail was disused 20something years ago and is now a bike path on Belgian territory surrounded by Germany.
@KGI_KlikoNL Ай бұрын
Funny as they gave German speaking South-Tyrol to Italy. Even the South-Tyrolians did not wanted that. And the Dutch part against the coast is called Zeeuws-Vlaanderen. Dutch speaking part of Belgium is called Vlaanderen. Also to get to the Antwerp harbor from the North-sea, you need to go over the Westerschelde and both the land on the north and south side of that (sort of river), is within the Netherlands. So basicly the Netherlands could block acces to the Antwerp Harbor.
@arjenh7214 Ай бұрын
Most importantly, it was also part of the county of Flanders until the Dutch conquered it in the Eighty Years War.
@Carewolf Ай бұрын
Well, that was Italy's war goal, just like German speaking Elsaß was France's. Self determination was only for neutral countries. Remember in WW1 every side was the bad guy ;)
@KGI_KlikoNL Ай бұрын
@@Carewolf The US wanted that countries were about, who spoke the same language, so it was not what the US initially wanted. But it was done as the current border with high mountains was easier to defend (Brennerpas).
@KGI_KlikoNL Ай бұрын
@@arjenh7214 Not that simple. If you look in County, yes it was part of County Flanders. But as County it became part of the Low Countries (Bourgondische Nederlanden), then that became the Habsburgse Nederlanden. Then it became the Spanish Netherlands. Then the Dutch Revolt started and the 80 year war for independence.
@bv2623 Ай бұрын
@@KGI_KlikoNL Yeah and? It was part of the county of Flanders and thus, as the Habsburgs hold the title of the county, personal Habsburgian lands. Habsburgian Netherlands, Bourgondian Netherlands or Spanish Netherlands (as they refer to non-nation states and are just geographical connotations) has nothing to do with the Netherlands after the 80 year war (first nationstate) except for the name. It has been a sham ever since the Dutch claimed the geographical title of "netherlands" for their own nationstate....which was a logical thing to do, as the territory of the Dutch republic had been a marginalized area without no real economical or historical meaning until the late 16th century. Using the term "Netherlands" made it easy to claim some fictional ancestory and succes connected to the geographical term, succes which was mostly due to the achievements of what is now Northern France and Flanders. Ironical all territories outside of the nationstate.
@1rjbrjb Ай бұрын
I have to admit: "make me Pope" was pretty funny. There are Simpsonesque secondary and tertiary gags (e.g. "please visit only with your own prisoner") that enhance the experience considerably, thank you.
@CultureCrossed64 Ай бұрын
Before watching the video my assumption is that the reason is- Their King was a good man and knew that too much punishment wouldn't solve anything. Edit- boy was I wrong.
@howtoappearincompletely9739 Ай бұрын
Good of you to leave the wrong prediction up, though.
@Berstalin Ай бұрын
Your assumption is right though. Albert I didnt want Germany being punished so harschly as it was with the versailles treaty. And thats why the allies punished Belgium by giving it little to nothing. The bickering of Belgian politicians (still going strong on that front till this day) will have been a factor aswell but Albert forgiving nature was a thorn in the side of those greedy politicians. If they had just listened to Albert I. Round 2 would have never happened and the western world would be in a better state as it is now.
@bruhbruh-us6gl Ай бұрын
@@BerstalinIncredible how the king of the Belgians, who actually fought on the battlefield, resented the germans less than the politicians who sat pretty doing nothing useful the entire war
@heftyordinanceindividual4015 Ай бұрын
@@bruhbruh-us6gl That tends to happen when you meet the other side.
@nekhumonta Ай бұрын
He was a good man, but had only a ceremonial function
@jerronmellon7105 Ай бұрын
Another reason the Entente wasn't so keen on giving Belgium any land was because they didn't fight with the Entente in their large (and also very deadly) offensives. Albert I, Belgium's king, only wanted his soldiers to fight to protect Belgium, but not the other Entente members. This was because he kept holding on to the idea that Belgium must stay neutral, even when 90% of it was occupied. During the war Belgium was seen as a poor and defenseless country that was being raped by the Germans, garnering lots of sympathy abroad. But after the war had ended the Entente leaders weren't so happy Belgium didn't really help them. If the ming had send his men to help in the great offensivea he probably had more sway in gaining some of the claimed lands, but the Belgian army would have suffered much greater losses. The reason Belgium claimed so much land was in the hopes that they would at least get the bare minimum they actually wanted. Asking a lot and getting a little was better then asking little and getting nothing. Also, a little fun fact. Belgium claimed the region of Palestine after the partition of the Ottoman Empire because Godfrey of Bouillon was born in a place that is now Belgium. Godfrey was the first crusader to be the ruler of the kingdom of Jerusalem, and therefore some in the Belgian government thought that they had a claim to the region.
@xroytheduck 17 күн бұрын
Really needed that hug. Thank guys ❤
@zombieslayer1468 Ай бұрын
it's always a good day when history matter uploads (upload 3 of asking you to release your maps NOW PLEASE)
@nanucit Ай бұрын
Belgium got James Bizonette to shut them up
@rosieroti4063 Ай бұрын
This time it was Gustav Swann and boogilee woogilee
@redhook1961 Ай бұрын
The Rules about Land are both tragically true and hysterically funny (in the context of the video). Another great piece of work
@TheFrenchClipper Ай бұрын
0:20 - Point 5 - typo at "laugh at the Kaiser's silly moustache" I love these scripts
@WaterShowsProd Ай бұрын
There isn't any typo there, though there are a couple in other sentences.
@TheFrenchClipper Ай бұрын
@@WaterShowsProd The text in the video says "[...] will blame Germany for the war and laugh and the Kaiser's silly moustache." Yeah, typo
@WaterShowsProd Ай бұрын
@@TheFrenchClipper Oh, yes, you're right. My mistake. Well, they can laugh at me, too. :)
@michellegiacalone1079 Ай бұрын
Those gains led to a marvelous video by Tim Traveler called 'Venbahn: The World's Weirdest Border".
@Totgehoert Ай бұрын
Another problem would have been that a bigger German ethnic minority in Belgium could have further destabilized their socitey which already struggled with its Flemish and French speakers' in-fighting
@sebe2255 14 күн бұрын
The problen would more so have been German Nationalists. Belgium has the perfect framework for incorporating a new language group into their country, at the cost of National government functionality
@Totgehoert 14 күн бұрын
@@sebe2255 yeah that is complety correct
@nolongeramused8135 Ай бұрын
"Shut up and deal with it" is pretty good advice in many situations.
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639 Ай бұрын
Another amazing video
@joermnyc Ай бұрын
I believe the channel The Tim Traveller explored the strange rail line border (the Vennbahnweg, which no longer has rails) with Belgium in the middle and Germany surrounding both sides of it.
@mennolente4807 Ай бұрын
1:10 Perhaps interesting to add, at the treaty of London in 1839, the definitive borders were established, and Belgium renounced its claims on Zeeuws-Vlaanderen, in exchange for receiving the western half of the duchy of Luxembourg. The historical claim they renounced was from when Zeeuws-Vlaanderen was part of the duchy Vlaanderen, before the 80 years war. Ultimately, the Belgian plans to annex Zeeuws-Vlaanderen led to the rise of anti-annexation groups, and the writing of the Zeeuws-Vlaamish anthem. Nowadays, the conflict might seem resolved. Or is it? In recent decades Belgian farmers started buying up farmland, at this time 25% of the farmland is owned by Belgians. And every year, over 600 Belgians (without even doing their inburgeringscursus!) invade Zeeuws-Vlaanderen to buy a house. Perhaps they are executing a nefarious plan to retake Zeeuws-Vlaanderen by buying it polder by polder. Who knows?
@sonjaverlinden7993 12 күн бұрын
Buy or take , huge difference. They took and Belgians buy back what 's historilic there's.
@tankaddict9147 Ай бұрын
0:20 “Todays weather: Try looking outside, Idiot” 💀
@someonewhoexists1 Ай бұрын
I noticed the detail of the trench background was much better than the last time you used that background. It’s cool to see how you improve your art
@DardanellesBy108 Ай бұрын
I always love reading the newspaper when it shows up in the videos. Always hilarious.
@SteventheOrigin Ай бұрын
I feel like if James Bissonette was a Belgian diplomat he could’ve persuaded the entente to allow Belgium to annex Germany whole.
@jorenbosmans8065 Ай бұрын
I would say it is impossible for us to take over a much longer country, but euhm history and stuff.
@alltat Ай бұрын
It would have been the Belgermaustrian Schwetherlands by now.
@FragLord Ай бұрын
In hindsight he did Belgium a big favor. There is a certain fella that 20 years later would've had a big problem with Belgium having a very large German population...
@amyelnah8717 Ай бұрын
@@FragLord he still did even with the minor bits of land we gained. In WW1 one of the largest universities in the country was also burnt down, along with some of the largest cities, in retribution for Belgium not instantly surrendering. That same university, after years of fighting for permission, added a small line of text to the building to remember the tragedy. Can you guess who had the whole thing vandalised a few years later...?
@FragLord Ай бұрын
@@amyelnah8717 I don't care, your stupid story isn't relevant. Also you have not presented any evidence to support your outrageous claim. The war wasn't as bad for Belgium as Belgium pretended it to be. Historians researching German Army records have discovered 101 "major" incidents-where ten or more civilians were killed-with a total of 4,421 executed. 4400 executions are 4400 executions too many. But let's not pretend this was a holocaust. You are complaining about a fucking library and a fucking university. When the entire northern border of France and many major cities, industries were reduced to rubble and a total wasteland... On top of that France lost 16% of it's male population, Germany 12% , Italy 10.5% , UK 8%. Belgium 2.3%... Of course Belgium got way less, it was overrun, hardly defended itself and the Belgian king making the most outrageous and ridiculous claims after the war made everybody realize what Belgium is. A JOKE
@ivanvladimir0435 Ай бұрын
Denmark after the entente/allies push to give them more land they don't want: "guys stop" Belgium after the entente wants to give them a fair share: "T H I S I S N O T F A I R"
@RedXlV Ай бұрын
Denmark: "That land's no good, it has too many Germans in it."
@imwinningthisone7613 Ай бұрын
It's not a fair share though. Belgium wanted to get their rightful land back
@user-mg2ip8cr8z 29 күн бұрын
Belgium al so got Neutral Moresnet , something not covered in the video .
@deweybrightside2276 Ай бұрын
Love these. Thank you.
@jrproductions1818 Ай бұрын
These should be played in museums.
@realhawaii5o Ай бұрын
Reminds me of that video from 2 years ago on why the Netherlands didn't get more land after WW2.
@luckyluciano1584 Ай бұрын
But that was kinda funny, because the Netherlands probably could've gotten cleves and Frisia due them both being either Frisian or Dutch (don't know if cleves was Dutch in 1900, but it was in 1850)
@propagandalf123 Ай бұрын
"the allies valued self determination" Silesia, Danzig, Eupen Malmedy, West Prussia: Am I nothing to you?
@dabbasw31 Ай бұрын
Silesia mostly remained German after WWI. Danzig became a Free City because Poland should gain access to a Baltic Sea port not under control of a foreign power. The plebicite of Eupen was in fact rigged. The parts of West Prussia which fell to Poland after WWI were mostly settled by Polish or Kashubians.
@matthings4133 Ай бұрын
Those we're already agreed upon which is also why Belgium hot so little, to not further upset the Germans
@sliftyy Ай бұрын
Hungary too. Along the entire Hungarian border with their neighbours, there are Hungarian minorities.
@daanwolters3751 Ай бұрын
Dont forget about elzas lötheringen
@dabbasw31 Ай бұрын
@@daanwolters3751 The inhabitans of Alsace-Lorraine would have probably voted for France.
@HarvestStore Ай бұрын
Great video.
@BlahCraft1 Ай бұрын
Love the newspaper gags.
@saladspinner3200 23 күн бұрын
If Belgium actually gained that large swat of land West or the Rhine, German would be the most spoken language in Belgium today.
@iwuedfh Ай бұрын
another belgium video, i like this whole focus you have on belgium, very interesting country methinks
@davepratt9909 Ай бұрын
I loved the footnote.
@Gorboduc Ай бұрын
2:24 - You can tell this is peacetime because the fire isn't consuming a little square running man for a change.
@markphilipp224 Ай бұрын
Have you ever considered doing longer form content again? I enjoyed those videos a lot.
@masterchinese28 Ай бұрын
You mean when the channel used to do 10-minute history videos? Those were great! But the reality is that the KZfaq video community is populated by ADHD people who won't click on anything that long.
@alanpennie Ай бұрын
Sally Marks, An Innocent Abroad: Belgium at The Paris Peace Conference (1981) is an excellent source on Belgian haplessness. Incidentally, i know this is short but I think thete should be some mention of Neutral Moresnet. Its SUCH a cool name.
@howtoappearincompletely9739 Ай бұрын
Thanks for that. Neutral Moresnet made for interesting reading!
@mikecronis Ай бұрын
Was not expecting "The Son of Man", 1946 by Rene Magritte but is amazingly and cleverly appropriate.
@andromeda331 Ай бұрын
I love the weather report.
@3chmidt Ай бұрын
The Politician thing also counts for Germany, people nowadays always say if Germany won ww1, then they would get this territory and this and that, but in the end not everyone was like this, like Wilhelm Ⅱ that didn't pursuit any territorial expansions in Europe, while some German politicians thought differently.
@NeichoKijimura Ай бұрын
Slight correction: The region of The Netherlands that you say they had no historical claim over. Is known as Sealandic Flanders and used to be a part of Flanders, which is the Dutch part of Belgium. The dialect and culture is also more closely aligned with Flanders than Holland
@Thanadeez Ай бұрын
Exactly
@bernd_das_brot6911 Ай бұрын
God Belgium as a state was a mistake
@enemy-rogue Ай бұрын
At least "Holland" - for those bears just wearing shirts, or the Netherlands - for those in a suit, has a solid explanation for it's existance. Belgium is just a bug that hasn't been patched.
@Freezefort Ай бұрын
please dont say that about us. it hurts
@Ggdivhjkjl Ай бұрын
What would Homer say about that?
@jessetorres8738 Ай бұрын
Trivia note: The U.S. game show The Amazing Race has been on for 36 Seasons, & yet they have been to Belgium for just 2 of them; Season 19 & Season 30.
@boonlincoln Ай бұрын
Reminder that if you have the time, you should definitely put the highest resolution you can and pause to read every newspaper in History Matters videos.
@stephenfoulard3484 Ай бұрын
A rare flag error! At 0:30, the stars are in the pattern from the 1908-1912 flag, prior to the admission of New Mexico and Arizona, i.e. with only 46 states/stars.
@mevrouw28 Ай бұрын
0:44 The Flemings wanted this part of France as much if not more than the Walloons. It borders the modern Province of West-Vlaanderen, was part of the historical County of Flanders and (albeit decreasingly) Flemish speaking.
@edmerc92 Ай бұрын
But the Entente was not going to ask France to give up land after fighting that bloodbath on its own soil for four years.
@mevrouw28 Ай бұрын
@@edmerc92 I don’t disagree. I was only pointing out it was the Flemish politicians, as much & likely more than the Walloon politicians, advocating for it.
@__Timmerman__ Ай бұрын
Flemish isn't a language, it's a dialect of Dutch.
@mevrouw28 Ай бұрын
@@__Timmerman__ Are you Dutch?
@__Timmerman__ Ай бұрын
@@mevrouw28 Yes, but why does that matter? Flemish isn't a language it's a dialect. I have nothing against the Flemish and their culture, I love their culture even. But by that logic all the dialects in the Netherlands would be considered a language aswell, which would mean that nobody even speaks Dutch.
@soccerguy2433 Ай бұрын
0:19 the news paper articles are awesome lol
@goldeagle8051 Ай бұрын
Great video. A few remarks: 1:08. This part of the Netherlands actually has a strong connection with Belgium and there is historical claim. It was part of Flanders until 1600 and it still has strong ties with Flanders/Belgium. It is still called Zeeuws-Vlaanderen in both Belgium and the Netherlands. 0:45: This part of France was also part of Flanders until around 1700. The region is still called Frans-Vlaanderen in Belgium and 'Flandres' in France. It is a rich region, which forms an economic metropol with the adjacent Belgian cities of Kortrijk and Tournai and it has the second biggest city of France (Lille) after Paris. The cities in this part of France much resemble Flemish medieval city infrastructure with a belfry in the center. Until recently some Flemish was still spoken there. These suggestions weren't crazy from a historical, cultural or economic perspective. The only crazy thing is that France was an ally and the Netherlands were neutral and helped our refugees. Fun fact: 2:29. This railway is now gone and replaced with a not economically important cycletrack but we're still not giving it back, lol.
@gustavocarvalholoboleite3526 Ай бұрын
Hey History Matters sugestion make a video about the western saharaa.
@timmccarthy9917 Ай бұрын
All the maps will say "no data"
@ujimasahojo7144 Ай бұрын
By that time, their hands off approach in the Congo probably affected the allies' decisions.
@MacGuyver85 Ай бұрын
"hands off" you say? 😬
@The_War_Pug Ай бұрын
Please do a video on the Battle of Samar. It doesn't really fit with lesser known events in history but it's a cool story nonetheless.
@GamerzFanz1 Ай бұрын
calling Dr. Howard Dr. Fine Dr. Howard will never fail to make me laugh
@ThatScottishAtlantic57 Ай бұрын
Something something James Bissonette Something something
@Steeyuv Ай бұрын
Something something ironic comment something something
@houssamassila6274 Ай бұрын
Something Something oh stop it already with this James Bissonette joke something something
@j.a.yjustanothertiredguy8696 Ай бұрын
Belgium didn't need more because they had funding from James Bissonette
@FragLord Ай бұрын
In hindsight he did Belgium a big favor. There is a certain fella that 20 years later would've had a big problem with Belgium having a very large German population...
@eric-wb7gj Ай бұрын
TY 🙏🙏
@pricel141l Ай бұрын
One thing important to notice is that Luxembourg at the time was in the middle of a HUGE controversy about the grand-duchess' role (Maria-Adelaide) in the german occupation, since she was of german ascendance herself and had authoritarian political views which made Luxemburg a potential candidate for german statehood and a unofficial collaborator of Germany, which turned into both an internal crisis in which the government asked for Maria-Adelaide's resignation, and an international crisis in which in spite of the refusal for said resignation, both Belgium and France claimed that because of its collaborationnist stance Luxembourg should be punished by annexation The main reason why this didn't happened is because in the end Belgium, France and Britain all agreed that it was overhaul better for them to have Luxembourg independant as a sort of neutral spot
@neededathrowaway1818 Ай бұрын
You should do a video on Operation Margarethe. Why did Germany invade its own ally during WWII, Hungary, while already losing the war?
@looinrims Ай бұрын
“Ferdinand Foch said: we, France, won this war all on our own and this train car will never sign another treaty again”
@thatotherotherbelgianguy Ай бұрын
finaly, some good content
@isotropisch82 Күн бұрын
This Brit says that Belgium is a fantastic country. So many beautiful places close to each other. Delicious food and beer. Lovely (eccentric) people. Long live Belgium!
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Ай бұрын
Because it isnt real
@Thanadeez Ай бұрын
it’s as real as you are
@LancerIHR Ай бұрын
Glory to North France, West Germany-Luxembourg, and South Netherlands
@2no9VR Ай бұрын
Crazy
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Ай бұрын
@@Thanadeez uh oh
@julianshepherd2038 Ай бұрын
It's more real than the bog dwelling to the north. And those castles built on sand, fall in the sea, eventually."
@gctzx Ай бұрын
Belgium didn’t get more land as Kelly Money Maker didn’t shake her Money Maker hard enough.
@galatheumbreon6862 Ай бұрын
I think I notice a slight art polish, You love to see it
@ebbu.planespotting1903 Ай бұрын
We also did gain Rwanda-Burundi as a mandate territory to oversee it until it became independent which it never received until we lost the Congo. Love to historical videos about Belgium! 🇧🇪
@coolguy... Ай бұрын
Yoo what is this Belgium grind!
@jorenbosmans8065 Ай бұрын
Just wait until you learn how our farmers recently tried to expand Belgium into France 😂
@coolguy... Ай бұрын
@@jorenbosmans8065 That seems.. intresting🤣 And that was an legit event?
@nickcorne6407 Ай бұрын
@@coolguy... yeah, there was a whole controversy around it, basically making belgium a bit bigger and france a bit smaller
@jorenbosmans8065 Ай бұрын
@@coolguy... Yeah, to be honest he just moved the landmark because it was in his way. No land expansion reason behind it 😂
@coolguy... Ай бұрын
@@jorenbosmans8065 I really need to check this shit out🤣
@satyricon65 Ай бұрын
Denmark got those lands back after WWI because the population was predominantly Danish.
@WeirdWonderful Ай бұрын
You didn't mention the weirdest German enclave resulting from this land transfer: Rückschlag, which is....just a single house.
@Remitonov Ай бұрын
Entente when dealing with Belgian claims: "You're insane!" Entente when dealing with Danish claims: "You're being too modest! Take more!"
@TNOBasedBatov Ай бұрын
Because James Bisonnete would only fund the Marshall plan in exchange for smoll Belgium
@hanswoast7 Ай бұрын
Marshall plan was after WW2 though.
@TNOBasedBatov Ай бұрын
@@hanswoast7he’s an immortal time god.
@FragLord Ай бұрын
In hindsight he did Belgium a big favor. There is a certain fella that 20 years later would've had a big problem with Belgium having a very large German population...
@sakshamrai1803 Ай бұрын
Make a video on Novogrod Republic or pre 1750 democracies.
@darkroastordeath Ай бұрын
Pause on the newspaper - some gems in there
@caervlevsmaximvs7518 Ай бұрын
Hi @History Matters! Please do a video on Baarle Nassau & Baarle Hertog. The part of this video with the railway made me think ''wait, we can easily one-up such bordergore!'' (Long time fan, pls notice :P )
@gabrielmontenegro9476 Ай бұрын
What were those Belgian politicians thinking when they demanded land from France, their co-belligerent? Did they really think that was ever going to happen? I have heard that asking for too much is a tactic, so then you can haggle until settling in what you actually wanted from the start, but this example is waaay too bonkers to be the case.
@luckyluciano1584 Ай бұрын
But half of this stuff was done by nationalist who wanted a greater Belgium, and they probably wouldn't have backed down either way
@boobah5643 Ай бұрын
Presumably in exchange for Belgian support for French territorial claims elsewhere.
@imwinningthisone7613 Ай бұрын
To be honest all the claims are completely valid. The part of France they claimed is historically flemish and all the town names and last names are Flemish, then the german part they got was historically Belgian before being annexed by Prussia, and the dutch/Luxembourg parts were also Belgian but were stolen by the Brits in 1839 to give them to the Netherlands
@OnionChoppingNinja Ай бұрын
@@imwinningthisone7613 All of Belgium (and Luxembourg) belongs to the Netherlands. I'd say they gotten off easy by just losing Limburg.
@imwinningthisone7613 Ай бұрын
@@OnionChoppingNinja and why would you think that?
@guilhermeroyama8842 Ай бұрын
Belgium - "We want a World Cup" Netherlands - "Me too, kid. Me too....."
@sonjaverlinden7993 12 күн бұрын
Actually, we have one ...the first of ... but Belgians don't take credit of it like the others do ...shame
@elKarlo Ай бұрын
I love the fact that the newspaper at :20 actually has legible articles
@dolitebalcon854 Ай бұрын
1:47 give us the moon lol 😂😂😂
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