Man, those run defenses were so bad....Didn't Jacksonville break 400 yards on them one game? Anyway, they did get their act together in that game against Kansas City. Larry Johnson was the running back IIRC

@@bremflo I believe it was 375. And one of my favorite jokes about that game - Jacksonville would have got 500 yards , but the endzone kept getting in the way.

I also blame jim irsay. I’m not sure what for, I do not like him

@@bremflo The ravens of this day would school the colts than

That’s no lie!! They never got the defense right

tfw Ben Roethlisberger chases down a defensive back from like 15 yards back and you fail to cruise to a relatively-bagged SB Win.

Better then Brady

@@joesmith6524 Manning can't become 3 black guys on the spot like Brady can. #NotMyGOAT

Can make a case for Manning being the regular season Goat, but he struggled more often in the playoffs.

@@poizie85g83 his numbers and performance is no worse than Brady's in the post season. Brady is something like 8-2 in playoff games with 3 interceptions. Had Manning played with Wade Phillips running the defense for 18 years you have seen stats like that too.

Competence is a necessity at QB to win point blank just don’t lose the game sometimes and sometimes you gotta be the reason they win

the fuck?! so it's okay to have Good numbers and not win a Super Bowl

Great, great point. Elway hung 2 trophies as an old QB with the most dominant run game in the NFL. But as a younger man Elway was the best in the league and carried garbage teams to the slaughter in the SB 3 times. Meanwhile Montana was essentially Troy Aikman but gets thought of as the gold standard for QBs with the greatest team in the league. Montana on those Broncos teams has no rings; Elway on those Niners teams probably had 5 or 6 rings.

@@Un_k_noWN This isn't boxing, swimming, MMA or track events. You're not alone out there. QBs are overrated in wins and over-scorned in losses. It's a team sport. We love Ali, McGregor and Tyson for their brash personalities, ego, cockiness and trash talk but despise any football player that dares say he's good or the best in the league or the teams best player or the reason they won. Team vs solo performance.

They could have took my grandma to the title with that defense.

@Harry Engel exactly Peyton took so many bottom tear defenses to the playoffs but he could only carry them for so long.

We (Colts fans) still got a ring though.

@@dannygoodlet8840 true but man a couple more wouldn’t have been that bad either with that good of a team for so long.

Respectively Peyton Manning is The GOAT. It certainly helps to have a top rated defense all but 2 seasons of his career as defense usually wins championships! Manning 5 MVP's Brady 3 and Manning 7 1st team All-Pro teams Brady 3. Brandy's team went 11-5 in his fill injured season while Mannings went 2-15. Manning has had a 15th or worse defense all but 2 seasons of his career. I can't even imagine how many Super Bowls Manning might have won if he had a top 10 defense all but 2 seasons of his career. Also all records that Brady has passed Manning in took more seasons played than Manning took to achieve them in. Manning also proved his versatility as the only player to get to the Super Bowl 4 times with four different head coaches proving he could win in any system under any coach.

​@@jonathonbevers170 Peyton had 7 top 10 scoring defenses in his career. Scoring defense is far FAR more important then yards given up. Both QB's have taken a team with a bottom half of the league scoring defense to the superbowl. Patriots went 11-5 without Brady, but that was a 5 game drop off from the previous season. Patriots were also trying to win games. The Colts without Manning were actively trying to lose games to draft Andrew Luck. Very bad comparison. Brady took more years because he had less passing attempts then Manning. When you look at them with equal passing attempts, which is more important, they are very similar. Brady has edge in some things Manning has the edge in some things. This past year Brady also proved his versatility winning with a different team and coach. You can make the argument Manning is a better regular season QB, but Brady was definitely better in the postseason. Brady's QBR is better then Manning in both regular season and post season. I do think Manning is one of the best all time, but I don't see how you can put him above Brady (I do think the margin is very slim).

Maybe a career breakdown video about Drew Brees or even the class act himself Ben Roethlisberger

Which Manning we talking about ?The Manning that played for the Giants was better.

@@thomasisaacs5358 I love Ben.

Drew Brees is a better QB than Aaron Rodgers imo and a tie with Peyton.

@@RealOGMudbone Quarterback list goes like this Brady greatest of all time, Brees, Montana, Rodgers then Manning. That's just the honest truth

Facts Yt is the new tv

Bro his luck is on level 10, he’s a great QB but it seems like whenever he’s having a bad game the D or his run game bails him out. When is the last time you ever saw him lose to a last second missed field goal . I think I saw that about 4 times in this video in just 18s playoffs .

@@hoosierfilms5350 well multiple teammates of TB have talked about how the game never felt out of reach when 12 was your QB. Defense plays harder because they believe they just need to give TB one drive and he will score. That's what they talk about when they say that great players elevate those around them.

@@estebancoronel7639 It helps knowing that your offense will get bailed out by the officials who love to call ridiculous penalties on third down when Brady's on the field. That extra couple minutes of rest helps a lot.

@@wvu05 Not to mention the refs suddenly turn blind whenever one of Brady's teammates or even Brady himself commits a penalty. It helps when your offensive line can get away with stuff like holding or false starts every now and then.

@@matthewcrispin4070 Indeed. It's a lot harder to win a game 17 vs. 11.

U think his name is actually Barry? 😂😂

@@instinctive6714 😂

@@instinctive6714 no 😂

😂😂😂

Robbed twice of 2 fmvps

Now they have all of the supporting pieces but no luck or manning.

@@patrickferguson8775 And a lot of people in the Philadelphia area laughing about being proven right about Carson Wentz.

2011 with vaunted Purdue QB Curtis Painter at the helm......that ship took on water before it left the docks.

@@halowarrior917 And how were the defenses?

@@halowarrior917 The Colts defenses routinely ranked near the bottom of the NFL. The Asterisks routinely ranked near the top. When they tried to win on the strength of their offense, they had a ten-year drought.

AND, and win five MVPs

no other qb played as badly in 4 superbowls as Peyton did

SO, WHAT?

@@joegordon2915 Jim Kelly

​@milandonhowe9556 In the first game he was ok, but the rest were disasters

Its football....players get hurt

@@ChillConservative2k15 But given what we know now about CTE, some of these hits are better left in the past

It's a dangerous game. They are compensated extremely well to take that risk. Big hits are what a majority of fans like to see. Don't want to get hit, don't play football

@@iblizzard7573a big hit isn’t the same as a a concussion and all op was trying to say is that the game is better without concussions People understand there’s a risk that’ll never go away, but players are hurt less severely less frequently

Thats cuz legendary offenses really arent that legendary when you go up against a legendary defense. Gotta play big boy football to beat a defense like that and that Broncos offense was as finesse as it gets.

Great defense beats great offense ANY DAY. Broncos just ran into a JUGGERNAUT and a top 10 all time defense.

07 Patriots were an ALL TIME great offense. Putting up Rookie Madden numbers 30,40,50 points in games. What happened when they ran into a GREAT Giants defense that was clicking on all cylinders? I’ll take Defense over Offense

@@jaynyce5923 Their offense was slowing down in the second half as well. Because they weren't a very good run team, defenses started playing them tougher and it got cold as well. Not making an excuse, but I say their lack of a run game doomed them in the end as well.

@@jaynyce5923 Yeah but come on one TD the whole game.

And because of all the damage he took in his career he couldn't take advantage of that Brincis defense by the time it formed in 2015, if he could've played 2 or 3 more years at just 75% of what he once was with that defense he'd have won more in 2016 to 17 they could've easily won either of those superbowls vs the eagles or Falcons they'd have destroyed Matt Ryan and nick foles and Brady doesn't get 6 rings in New England and with the Broncos on top the afc west The chiefs might not get Patrick Mahomes

@@vulcanraven9701 Exactly, people need to look at his playoff game log, its trash. He played poorly most of the playoff games of his career, including every super bowl. He had maybe 5-6 good games his entire career and he regularly shit the bed in the first round against easier competition. You give Tom Brady the exact situation that Manning had and I guarantee you he ends up with more than 14 playoff wins.

@@dash4800 Brady wouldn’t win more than 3 of those games with that shitty defense go look at his rings 4 of those were won through strong defense which Manning didn’t get until it was to late

@@dash4800 You give Tom Brady the situation Peyton Manning got without the multiple cheating scandals or ridiculous calls in his favor, and he's forgotten. Give him a terrible defense and no running game for most of his career (and a coach who knows exactly what play is coming), and he doesn't win two titles, let alone seven.

@@wvu05 but you're ignoring the fact that he played extremely poorly in playoffs and his teams won superbowls almost inspite of him. people always compare him and brady but i dont think brady was much of a problem for him as he had a 3-1 afccg record against him. also a lot of teams get calls favoured for them and also every dynasty has a cheating scandal except maybe the cowboys.peyton is still the greatest regular season qb ever and 2004 imo is the greatest season a qb can ever have

This is the same problem with lamar and why he has to scramble or extend pass plays

Don’t include Kelly or tark. They both made man sb and remember the purple people eaters? Oh and I forgot about Andre reed thurman and that badass linebacking core. Oh let’s also throw Bruce smith a top three d end of all time

Chargers, Colts and Steelers were robbed by the pats in all the afc championship games , the lockers were bugged that’s why there’s Astrix Around the New England SB wins, It’s fucked up how the information took so long to come out, How do you think the Pats played perfectedly against these teams yet they were so dominant in that season and post season before the game, Hell the pats even lost to these teams in the regular season

He went 32-43 but ya that was a funny mistake😂

My god, how many Hail Marys did he have to throw?

lmao i was on 1.5x and thought i just heard it wrong

32/43 was the real stats

Peyton’s stats targeting anyone else other than Marvin Harrison in the playoffs exceed Brady’s in every category except TD%, & even there it is close.

Yes! Absolutely. There’s a lot of great videos on Marino already. But the world needs Barry’s take on it

Yup. A lot of people forget he broke ALL of the nfls offensive records and lost in the super bowl just a year prior. But he did win the greatest super bowl of all time. SB50

@@vulcanraven9701 the last one definitely. The first Denver playoff Peyton threw 400 yards.

Autumn Leaves, imagine Ryan Leaf naming his daughter Autumn 🤣😂🤣😂😭

@@vulcanraven9701 He played far better than Brady in both of their AFCCG matchups in Denver.

lets be honest that defense won the SB, that said you can say the same about Brady 1st one.

@@erikmerrill8280 peyton gets picked and the guy goes back for six. tom brady gets picked and the #2 CB breaks his arm and their #3 corner was a practice squad guy that got shit on the rest of the game.

@@immaculatesquid Tom also led them back from down 10 against one of the best defenses ever... luck comes into it but you can't take away from Brady from stuff he can't control

@@ethanscully3455 People don't remember how different the secondaries were tho. 2013 they had all healthy Sherm, ET3, Kam, Maxwell, Browner, Lane, Thurmond in 2014 they had Sherm, ET3, Kam, and Lane they had no depth behind them and 3/4 went into that game playing injured, and one broke his arm in the first Q.

@@immaculatesquid Aside from that, the Patriots style of offense matches up extremely well against the Seahawks' LOB. The Broncos were the complete opposite and the O-line couldn't handle the 4 man pass rush.

@@erikmerrill8280 then how come sysTOM is 1-3 versus Peyton in title games?

@T Paine agreed!

Brady has two 3ints wins in the playoffs big difference

Dang, you sound mad, AJP!

@@zechariahcameron3645 nah just stating a fact

yep, barry is 100% biased against brady & pretty much admits to it.

Its barry, hes openly and unashamedly biased against brady. In his recent video on brady vs mahomes he litetally ends the video saying that objectively brady is still the goat but he hates brady so much that he gave the goat to mahomes instead 😂 hes a fan of mahomes, not because he loves mahomes, but purely because he thinks mahomes has the best chance of surpassing brady in rings, i mean fuck he was even rooting for the bucs in the playoffs just so that he could make a point about them not needing brady to win a playoff game, the lengths he goes to shit all over brady is more funny than anything imo and i dont even hate brady myself

That's not funny but I guess il burn in hell cause I Laffed

if sysTOM is so amazing why he did he only win 1 of their 4 championship meetings?

@@36timesbetterthanu he was too busy winning 7 Super Bowls lmaooo. You want a cookie for gettibg to the super bowl?

Brady boys are bad.

I'm very confused why this isn't more commonly noted on social media. Some people really look at football like it's a 1 on 1 sport

So then why did Edge, and Faulk put up twice the numbers than JoJo did?

Running doesn’t win games

@@reppingl Time of posession, red zone effectiveness and turnover differential win games. However these things are accomplished doesn't really matter in the end.

@@garak55 time of possession is not strongly correlated with winning. These things have been studied and researched and you should read the research before saying things like that

because that probably was the last time it happened 💀

They never won anything with Marino either

Yeah, winning is a team stat, like TDs or yards. Those measure the guard's blocking, the receivers ability to run decoy routes etc. Heck, they even measure the Line Backers ability to stop the opponent so they don't have to force it.

Chargers, Colts and Steelers were robbed by the pats in all the afc championship games , the lockers were bugged that’s why there’s Astrix Around the New England SB wins, It’s fucked up how the information took so long to come out, How do you think the Pats played perfectedly against these teams yet they were so dominant in that season and post season before the game, Hell the pats even lost to these teams in the regular season Brady never won the afc championship outside of Foxborough

@@albernard180 It’s about the dark humor. Brady is going to go down as the GOAT for good reason, he’s the best at his kind of game & he can pretty much turn any game into his kind of game. The only difference I ever noticed with Manning was that he had to play almost mistake free to win where Brady had more breathing room. The Bucs won the SB this year because Brady got them to change their offense half way through the season. There won’t be another Brady for a very long time, if ever.

Brady didn't always have an elite defense. The years he did were the times they won the SB. Those middle years had some brutal defenses and I'd even say 1 or 2 of those SBs were won with a far from elite defenses

@@jc8943 far from elite, but very good especially for the players they had. Patriots would get scrubs from other teams and turn them into solid players. Not the end all be all stat to judge defenses by, but the amount of top 10 defenses by least points allowed that the Pats had during their 20 year stretch with Brady is unreal. It's like 17/20 seasons of a top 10 scoring defense or something like that. I highly doubt anything like that has happened in NFL history, at least after the merger.

If Brady wins this year with a bad defense yes this defense is bad than its no doubt he is goated

Weird bc mannings defense held the opponent under 20 in nearly 50% of his playoff games. Brady’s defense only did that for him in 40% of his

Let’s be real here the pats defenses were good but that 2015 broncos defense was all time

No, Peyton manning shitting the bed in every game that mattered killed Peyton manning

Especially now

"he almost never ran the ball even though he weighed 230 pounds" is this a troll

Because that was the only bright spot for the Bears in that game.

100%

I would take marino in elway over brady as well.

Thats cause you guys are clowns

Tom Brady just has a really boring play style

@@julianbell9161 Oh, thanks I didn't catch that part.

Also said Adrian Peterson was a child respecter.

You know that is an interesting point. I thought when realignment happened the Colts were going to end up in the AFC north with Pittsburgh, Cincy and Cleveland. And of course the Steelers would have been though competition in the division. It would not have been a cakewalk like the south is.

His defense ranks equally with what Tom had in DVOA

Yeah, and it’s not like it was really a leadership thing, he had that in spades, I think it was honestly just that Bill and Brady got on people tougher and people respected them more than they did the coach in Indianapolis when Peyton was there.

dumbest thing i’ve heard in my life. He was the heart and sole of the team for over a decade he ran the offense basically as the coordinator and he ran the practices, did pre game speeches, and broke countless records what else to you want from him.

@@josephchandler2203 your exactly right. He was the freaking GM.

@@NathanJakobMichaelThomas then why is peyton 3-1 vs the cheaters in title games?

It's because of arrogant ownership of Jim Irsay. Hes a mediocre owner Great teams usually have great ownerships and management Colts weren't that honestly since the Unitas Baltimore era

@Cfc7ninja 12 cry harder

Both are unclutch

It seems most people only know or care who QBs and receivers are. They also think the most important position on the field means they are responsible for 90% of the outcome.

god imagine the patriots with manning, nobody outside of Mass. would ever watch an NFL game again

Don't forget the chargers

@@TwenOalley Then Peyton would be having like 15 rings

Better graded O-Lines? By whose grades lol

Tom has 10 SB appearances not 9

I think if you switched them from teams we would've seen Peyton do the same as Brady

The Patriots were that good*

@@Christian2496529 Peyton always had way more weapons than Brady.

@@mashiegamie7443 no he didn't, but he did have more quality weapons, specifically wide receivers. Only on the internet do people believe that wide receivers are the key to winning superbowls and long-term success. See: Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, the list goes on. Some of them got to the superbowl once, but no championships. It's almost like there are more crucial position groups to have higher echelon talent relative to your opponents (*cough O-line, D-line *cough)

Not all of his chokes were against Brady. He lost in 2005 to Rothlisberger and the Steelers were a mediocre team that year. He lost to the Jets in 2010 they were no great team although that loss wasn't on him but on their special teams. And lost to Brees and Wilson in the super bowl

He has one on Rodgers. One on Brees would be great.

SO you agree with him saying that all the great qbs that are future hof always got let down by defenses and had povery ogranazions?

@@aaronkirk4361 I think you Brady fanboys and all them Brady haters look at this shit all wrong. Brady won without Bill, but with what.....a really fucking good team. Could anyone have done it? Hell no, you don't just plug in Mitch Trubisky. Are we comparing Brady to Mitch Trubisky? Hell no, so let's say a very good QB like Rodgers was on that team. Would they win the SB still? It's hard to say no. Matt Cassell? Very valid example of why the Pats were so good all-around, even with an easier schedule. Does it mean he was anything close to Tom Brady or could've been? No. At the same time, Brady haters can't see that Brady throwing bombs at his age is not something anyone ever sees. Brady is an all-time legend, Belichick though himself is an all-time legend as well. Hate how some of y'all don't appreciate the game and just dismiss the intricacies for absolutes like Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith.

@@jordancave3089 It's definitely insane as an accomplishment and I'm not taking anything away from it. I'm just trying to put it in perspective. Brady won without Bill...but he had a better chance with the team he went to. It's not like Bruce Arians is a slouch, and there was a dearth of talent, or Brady had to carry any particular part of the football team. They had a ridiculous amount of all-pro and former all-pro talent on offense, their O-line was solidified by season start, and their defense showed up in the playoffs a la Giants d line in 2006-07. Tom Brady proved he's the best 43 year old QB we've seen in the NFL, but I can see a few QBs taking the Bucs all the way last season. Brady tweaked the offense, he didn't make or change it. He was a huge improvement to leadership and passing, but to no one's surprise given he replaced Jameis Winston and his 35 turnovers.

@@jordancave3089 If Jameis Winston had way less turnovers, you're right that would've been an amazing season....that's....kind of what I'm saying about the Bucs. That they were never slouches. And I think you're underrating Tom Brady's performance at his age. I've watched a lot of old QBs, and none were as good as Brady at 43 especially with how much he's passed. It is the easiest time to do it in NFL history and the Bucs shored up the O-line just in time but still it's a testament to how amazing he's kept in shape. It was amazing for any QB to do? That's where I disagree. Yes it's great, but in this day and age, we see those kind of performances all the time, without the type of talent and blocking Brady had too. There are practically 5 QBs last year that had comparable or better performances than Brady. Again, this isn't knocking on Brady. I'm just saying I think you need to pull back the hype a little bit. In September, the Bucs were top 5 odds to win the SB for many, top 10 for even more - just google it and set the time range.

@@jordancave3089 context is indeed key - Tom Brady is one of the least impacted QBs when it comes to no preseason because of his experience with an amorphous offense in New England. He also went to Bruce Arians, not some coach that tried to force him into an offensive scheme with bootlegs and rollouts. Plenty of QBs have picked up Bruce Arians' offense. Brady had varying success until adding his own tweaks that worked well for him from New England (more safe reads). You said yourself that Winston was on the cusp of a epic season if not for 35 whopping turnovers. You can say it was one of the best seasons we've ever seen, that's quite subjective, but the narrative is one of the best, I can't deny that (the best narratives are sensationalist). You take sports analysts on tv opinions as the opinions of the masses? Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Wilson all had very very good years and were in the MVP discussion over Brady (minus Watson because of record) for a good reason. Instead of looking at just the stats on papers and nitpicking between 40 and 43 tds, maybe look at ALL the stats to get a better frame of reference or better yet, WATCH THE GAMES. There are also resources like some people on twitter (Bill Barnwell for example) that will show you the top-down all-22 view for many key plays. Peyton Manning's last season at Denver had no arm, he was already throwing ducks when he broke that TD record, they were just the best ducks anyone has ever seen. His injury and age caught up to him, is that really who you want to compare Tom Brady to? Washed up Manning? Also, I already mentioned many times that was the best part of Brady last season....he was 43 and throwing deep balls. Ultimately, you are using wins and stats that other QBs have compiled in the same season with less talent and little to no favorable play calling in comparison to hype up last year. I already said it was a very very good year for Brady, but it seems we disagree on the reasons why it was standout and I think it comes down to your outlook on the hollywood narrative and my outlook through the on-field performances while paying heed to the performances around him.