Not only that but the scandinavian kingdoms also took a major part in the northern crusades.

@@Nimroc Hail Sigurðr Jórsalafari! The Norwegian Crusader King 👑

Not to mention that king sigurd of norway himselve took part in it and was the first king to leave his homeland to do so

angry Finnish sounds XD

@Al Strider they Spike French aß a native tongue adobted the French Vincent of knighthood and wäre of French descebd aß the vikings intermarried with loyal einen Tiere was Hardy anythink skandanivian abou them

where in africa are u from?

pablo what the fuck you saying, i and my follow Scandinavians are as far from africa you can come!🇸🇪🇳🇴🇩🇰💪🏻

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@@JensontheBasterd question... how are all the others not vikings when the first recording or writing of a viking on england was from norway?... do keep in mind that viking is a word that did start in norway as both a job title and another way of saying raiding.. also the swedish did not do too much in britain as most of them invaided parts of russia, poland and other baltic countries yet most of them never came home as they mostly just stayed there... aside from that everyone could be a viking as long as they did a viking soo yeah..

@@JensontheBasterd You have no idea how wrong you are, and I'm Danish by the way...

They did the same thing here in Mexico de hecho

@@yagami1134 If it’s a winning strategy, don’t change it

@YeshuaTheSon Gonzo Lol. Same shit, different bucket

@YeshuaTheSon Gonzo Yeah yeah. Whatevs bro. No one here is interested

@YeshuaTheSon Gonzo Where? Boring land?

The Norse pagans had a very different view on these things. As most of them saw it, there were many Gods and Goddesses but you made a deal with one of them. You did your rituals (like pray) to them and they deliver their part of the deal, like helping you win your battles. If they didn't deliver, then you changed your main deity and that is likely what Gunthrum did. It is pretty unlikely he suddenly became monotheistic, foreign priests complains over that in Scandinavia even in the 14th century (or at least in Sweden) but I think the church took it's win when they could. So yeah, he likely honestly went from worshiping Odin to White Christ. That was not that big of a deal to a viking, as long as they felt that Christ delivered they were faithful to him but we have plenty examples of vikings that switched back to a Norse deity when they felt Jesus didn't provide his part of the bargain. The vikings were practical people and it might sound like an odd way of thinking today, particularly for a none Scandinavian, but it worked for them. By the year 1000 all Scandinavian countries except Sweden (and Finland but they weren't Norse and had their own a bit odd mythology) were Christians. In 1137 when a cathedral was built over the former pagan temple (which was a late thing in itself) in Uppsala Sweden was officially Christian even if Magnus Ladulås had 3 crusades inside his own country against pagans in the mid 1200s and Småland, Värmland and a few other places had plenty of pagans even further. There were trials in Sweden against pagans up to the 1500s but the last one was in the mid 1700s. My grandad who would have been almost 100 if he still was alive was super Christian, his bedroom was full of angels and a huge painting of Jesus. In his cellar though he had an iron statuette of Thor (he was a fisherman when he was younger). That is Swedes though, the Danes took more to Christianity, maybe because they were a smaller country with less population, open terrain and at least today, 75% live in the 3 largest cities and over half of them in the capital. Or maybe it just is because Danes and Swedes are a bit different.

@@loke6664 Great feedback. Thank you for that information. I also remember reading that Gunthrum relied heavily on the runes to make decisions. So I thought, "Whoever reads the runes, actually rules."

Just to point out, that is a very basic description of how Christianity became the religion of Rome... It is an old code, but it checks out...

@@Pedro_Colicigno It is a bit more complicated then that there. Constantine did have plenty of political reasons to pick a monotheistic religion he had more control over but sure, he needed to win his victories for the whole thing to stick. But Christianity in Roman times were very different from what it was during Harald's time, just as it have evolved today. Saint Augustine was probably the most influential there, the man was a philosopher and the church doctrines changed with him. The thing is that the Bible might be very similar today as it was during Roman times but people have interpreted it to work for their time. And if you act the same during Constantine's time, Harald's and ours you would stick out like a sore thumb during 2 of these times. Rome during Constantine were a relatively strong superpower and final say was the Emperors. Viking age England had not really any king that strong so just sending a missionary to a king was not enough. For instance were the Swedish king Olof Skötkonung baptized (even if we of course could wonder how genuine that was) but Sweden was still mainly pagan for another 130 years after that, people had to be converted one by one since the king just didn't have the power to force people to convert. Most history books like to simplify things but the process of changing religion in Europe took a lot of time and work and the vikings were more stubborn then anyone else. You couldn't just force someone like Guthrum or HArald Hårdråda to believe in anything they didn't feel like, those were strong independent persons.

@@loke6664 I in no way think it was as simple as that, it is just I found funny how is usually accept (tho not 100% accurate) that Constatine used the Chi Ro simbol on their shields in the battle of Milvian Bridge and won, claiming it was God showing favor to them (not native english, sorry), and one thousand years later a very similar thing happened. I know is a very crude simplification of the occurences in both cases

Also, the end of the Viking Era is generally considered to have been the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, while the crusades didn't start until about 30 years after that....

Plus there weren't 2 popes trying to "Out-Pope" each other.

@@TheNorwegian by Stamford bridge a large amount of the Vikings would have been probably Catholic

@@cariopuppetmaster The vast majority

Ye.

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And pretty women!!!

Jokes on you, christmas celebration derives from yule (germanic/nordic pagan tradition)

@@truthseeker1941 Why do you think the nords took to it so quickly?

@@truthseeker1941 Not quite accurate, the date was originally picked to overlap with the ancient Roman Saturnalia holiday around the winter solstice and Yule was also a winter solstice celebration (most cultures had festivals around this time) so yes in Northern Europe there are a lot of Yule influences down to the name of the holiday, but Yule is not the "inspiration" for Christmas as such. Early Christians deliberately decided to celebrate the birth of Christ around the winter solstice to take the place of existing pagan solstice holidays makes it a lot of an easier sell to the newly converted, just keep celebrating like you always have, just tweak the theme a little and add a church visit to the todo list.

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Yes and the Muslims came ad destroyed them

Many balts were Orthodox christians though, that's worse than heathens ;)

huh? Poland was Christianised in 966. Actually, Poland had launched their own crusades (f.e. against Suduvians) :P

@echoes222 would you mind going back in time and letting the Teutons know?

@@echoes222 Constantinople was christianised in 324 AD

No... But our prowess in battle has made them hire us to beat some Christianity into all of you... And beside, we got reel good gifts and trade deals if we where willing to include this Jesus dude in or pantheon. Ops... Sorry! Did I accidentally kill you while you where busy talking to me? Surprise! Our favorite tactic!

relatable

I can see him sitting there in full armor, smoking a joint with the visor of his Bascinet closed. Playing zelda as the steam puffs out of the eyeslits.. Now I want to buy armor

Imagine if that were true and there were no camera, Metatron's speaking to a wall or an open door and his GF's used to his urges to give one-sided discussions.

coincidentally i am playing Twilight princess as i watch this.

@@thulegezelschap5884 Must everything come back to smoking a joint?

I've read that Ragnarök was introduced by Snorri Sturluson, who was already a Christian when he wrote the Prose Edda. The story of Ragnarök may have very well been influenced by the Book of Revelations.

Lmaooooo, tech tree hahaha video game now huh?

@@shaolinshowdown1123 crusader kings😂

Tell that to the pope in my game

@@publiopaolacci495 man I was only playing as a Grandmaster of a Crusading Order.

Primogeniture wasn't a native practice of the Germanic tribes. It was introduced by Christian advisers as the tribes were converted (albeit introduced gradually and with a lot of resistance), to prevent the Germanic kingdoms from falling into civil war or even fracturing after the death of a king. For example, take Charlemagne's Carolingian empire. It was cut into three after his death instead of remaining united.

Great piece of information! So my intuition was correct! Thanks!

@@metatronyt Vikings would have had an intuitive understanding of Trinity as well. Its in the Valknut. Three knots in one. Father-Son-Spirit also mirrors the Odin-Thor-Frey tribunal at Uppsala. The idea goes back to Romulus.

somesort, my people once a ruthless pagan who had the tradition of chopping other people head after we converted to christianity, some of us still practice rituals and magic yet are catholic its complicated, the pagan forest carnival tradition still exists to this day and our people mainly still somewhat ruthless till today but that human sacrifice and head chopping gone, mainly

@@metatronyt Christianity was adapted to deal with norse religion before. The Saxon Wars were pretty much crusades against germanic pagans.

I’ve heard that, too. Polytheistic religions are easy to convert to a monotheistic religion than vice versa. The Danes would convert to Christianity to get better trade deals in Catholic lands but just add Jesus to the pantheon in their practice. As the Norse intermingled with the Franks and Anglo-Saxons the generations would drift more toward Christianity over time.

I image him being like "yea, i'm not sure what to belive, so better please both"

it makes sense. look at 2nd/3rd gen muslims in the west, most of them are having casual sex and drinking. they've adopted half our traditions/values without really thinking about it, but still keep to the old ones to keep their mothers happy as well

gotta love that you guys keep mentioning each other, I love this community

My very pleasure! Keep up the good work!

@@irgendwer3610 I do as well I mean this community pushed me over the line to go to HEMA I was already interested but now I am starting to exercise to prepare for the HEMA school near me.

Love your videos too

Hell yeah, its History with Hilbert!

Well technically it's a going a viking, meaning raiders. But people forget those people were also traders.

lol

Not too far off. There's a Great Courses lecture explores how the Viking Age of raiding ended due to trading agricultural sciences with the rest ofChristendom, nullifying the need to raid for resources. So, trading with Christians, trading during Christmas... yeah

@@MegaKnight2012 well they did farm well the slaves did, also some have said that they weren't all Norse people the children born to slaves which usually means the men caught females and impregnated them were not slaves, also if you where a good enough warrior even if a slave you can earn your freedom.

Yule discount!

You look like the new hipster meowth

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Wait till the Ottomans arrive 😂

lmao

Then after about a century they did another pro-gamer move and converted :)

Jesus has already won

"Your god is nailed to a cross while my god holds a hammer. What say you?" "Your god is owned by Disney!"

Vegeta vs Jesus: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aq1lndKUmpqReYk.html

jesus throwing nails to thor's head

@@GlazeBattleBorn cringe

It was also just a glorified viking raid.

There are serious flaws in his analysis. The only reason it "didn't happen" is because the concept of Crusade didn't form yet. When it did form, the Catholics launched the Northern Crusades against the Baltic and Scandinavia region. There were also numerous Crusades during this period against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics; these are pre-Fourth Crusade) as well as fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons. Also, Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem, he started the video off with a mistake.

@@realtalk6195 wrong comment chain

Wow I didn't know that happened even if it was relatively small that's cool to know

Sigurd was the son of Magnus Barfot. Magnus was the son of Olav Kyrre, whose father Harald Hardråda, fell in the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, which is considered the end of the viking age.

Jesus very explicitly volunteers to be crucified in the Bible.

I fail to see how offering yourself up means you are no longer mild or meek. Jesus never came to lead a revolution, he came to be a perfect and final sacrifice for yours and mine sins. So that we could be blameless before God by his blood, we are saved. And by his stripes, we are healed.

The version popular with the Norse is the more biblically accurate version tho.

​@@denroybercierno one is saying that

@@denroybercier So how does that work exactly ? The final sacrifice for commiting sins is a sin of nailing someone to cross and killing them ? Am I the only one who thinks this doesn't make sense ?

The church was a form of mandated nobility. Later nobility would grant charters and licenses along the same authority.

Mutilated warrior god nailed to a tree, looked after the immortal honoured dead. Much of a muchness.

@@pattheplanteryeah, Christianity is pretty attractive. Simply accept that Jesus Christ is the son of god who was crucified and risen again, and bend your knee to the Holy Catholic Church, thus you shall have life everlasting.

@@pattheplanter nordic people had somewhat simialr believe - about Odin, who sacrifised himselve on Ygdrassil and was dead for nine days, and than - ressurected with huge portion of magic knowledge (runes in particular, if I remember right). So that concept was not alien to them at all. P.S. Maybe that concept came to life after contact with christians, don't know for sure. But anyway thats how "double-faith" works.

@@alexmalyarchuk1723 That is what I was referring to.

then why theres still demons to pervert god creations? in noah era

​@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 LEft over Jotuns

That's awesome

​@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 the raphaim are nephilim and Israelite hybrid...basically not all beings died from the flood and the humans that survived intermixed with those survivors

A connected universe.

There was also the Kalmare ledung against the pagans in Småland in southern Sweden

Teutonic order?

@@kasatimshardnim the Teutons indeed were the primary force in the Northern Crusade.

And we Swedes went crusading in Finland, for some reason. I can't remember the details right now.

@@andersbenke3596 the consequence of the Crusades was Finland gradually became an integral part of Sweden in late 13th

An IKEA a day will keep the exit away.

IT IS WORKING BROTHERS WÖRKING*

And because Odin ordered to lay down weapons and start building furniture.

@@arx3516 Valhallelujah!

It's called the Northern Crusades, look it up. His analysis is flawed. The primary reason it "didn't happen" is because the concept of Crusade didn't form yet and/or they didn't have the know-how for this type of warfare. When it did form (1000s), the Catholics launched the Northern Crusades against the Baltic and Scandinavia region (1100s). There were also numerous Crusades during this period against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics; these are pre-Fourth Crusade) as well as fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons. These continued into the 1500s. Also, Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem, he started the video off with a mistake.

It has. The Saxon Tales by Bernard Cornwell, also a netflix show called The Last Kingdom in it's fifth season. I am Uhtred, son of Uhtred, and his father was also called Uhtred and we are the Lord's of Bebbanburg.

@@Bayouboy1981 can’t stand those books and the Netflix show is even worse. Horrible in their historical portrayal of battles and of religion be it pagan or Christian. It’s so steeped in modern secularism/ humanism and that really bleeds into the story especially into the pagan/ Christian conflict he portrays. Constantly made me cringe. The Netflix show is even worse. So much wrong with it. The portrayal of the Saxon’s is a disgrace and I’m not even a Saxon. So dumb.

@@arminius504 that's why it's called historical fiction.

He could've taken advantage of the stab-hit they took from NoCB-ing Lindisfarne

Clearly not too OP, since the saxons beat them multiple times. They were just better at surprise attacks

True story

😂😂😂 They have a t-34 driver hatch as a shield. Impenetrable.

@Eugene Flores its a joke dude

Yes that is true.My grandmother,s first cousin Reinhold von Lilienschild was reported to the Gestapo as being Jewish.Tjey found he had no Jewish blood.His family had been in the Holy Land and later took part in the Baltic Crusades.They went back in the records of the City of Riga to the 12th, 13th century.Some members belong to the Livonian Knights of the Sword.Had to flee for his life to America because even thougj cleared of the Jewish charge, the Gedtapo was going to arrest him anyeays.

Well then let's hope he sees this, he usually does take a peek in the comment section, so you never know

Doesn't he live in Southern Italy?

@YoStefan if the show is from Italy and he lives in Italy, he's probably seen a bit of it before if it's not a new thing. That's what.

@@bleedingmasque.6193 it just came out this year

That would be cool

WOLOLOOO

@@Mister_Tac0 me: research Heresy

Viking: eating raw chicken Christian: tally ho neighbor have you heard of the warrior God Yahweh and our Lord and savior Jesus Christ?

@@RedVelvetBlackleather crusader tryna convert viking: ...errrrrr Jesus said those who lived by the sword, die by the sword... Viking: now that's what I'm looking for, sign me up

@@perrenchan6600 Christian: yes he indeed did say that. Did you know Steven the first gentile convert was stoned to death? Being Christian is hardcore and you will did a hard death and be raised in Valhalla and dine with David, Solomon, Able, Michal, and many other grand warriors!

That's not exactly true though. The anglo saxons used to have the same beliefs or similar beliefs to the norse. Remember anglo saxons got converted to christianity by the britons. Norse had Odin, Saxons had Woden, Saxons had Thunor, etc etc.

Because the scandinavian religion were also relatively inspired by slavs, wich was influenced by other southern cults from the region wich today is Romania, wich was influenced by the Roman Empire, wich adopted proto christian cults. So, basically, it was closing the circle around cultures who were in contact before and forgot about it.

@@gosonegr great insight, strong point

@@gosonegr You have a common ancestor, the Yamnaya, however Slav tribes still maintained contact with the Steppe tribes right until Christianity took hold. It seems that Slavs in their prime would become Steppe warriors but when they got old and tired of fighting they would retire back into the forests of Eastern Europe and this went on from the spread of the Yamnaya into Europe 3300BC up until around 1200AD.

@@dreddykrugernew Didn't know about the Yamnaya, but if they took even the territory is now Spain and Portugal seems plausible they share some aspects of their religious life, lore and other cultural themes, like the afterlife in Heaven/Valhalla/Elissium and the punishment of Hell/Hades, or the duality between Good and Evil incarnated in different gods (a fallen Angel for Chistians) of some sort.

There are serious flaws in his analysis. The primary reason it "didn't happen" is because the concept of Crusade didn't form yet. When it did form (1000s), the Catholics launched the Northern Crusades against the Baltic and Scandinavia region (1100s). There were also numerous Crusades during this period against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics; these are pre-Fourth Crusade) as well as fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons. These continued into the 1500s. Also, Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem, he started the video off with a mistake.

Same with the English, old English epics like Heliand call Jesus' disciples his thanes and describe Jesus as going into battle against death and not against the Romans

Which makes sense since the Bible says Jesus raided hell and took the kingdom from Satan.

lol yeah. Reading the old testament at night can be kinda scary. Also we were one person away from being destroyed altogether.

@@johnmclee3561 8 people but point taken

@@SepticFuddy Yeah true. Still, I got the impression is was mainly Noah he saw out of the corner of his eye.

AH but if you love your children and someone rapes and murders them.... Whats just then? So good point hes actually terrifying, if your living in the flesh.. I shiver when I read things he says in the old testament and Jesus in the new among others Job ect..

​@@jonhurt6109 I personally don't have this vision of God, he's the master of armies, but he still is a God of compassion and love, but as the guy said above, he's no hippie too

Didn't Alexander the Great go to Jerusalem?

@@rebeccavaughn8897 Indeed. Not to mention the fact that Emperor Titus personally lead the army which besieged Jerusalem in 70 AD. Granted, he would not become Emperor until 79 AD. Vespasian, while he did not take part in the conquest of Jerusalem, did return to the Israel to complete his own campaign of the Roman-Jewish war after being crowned Emperor in 70 AD. Hadrian also visited Jerusalem in 135 AD. Not to mention the fact that every Byzantine Emperor following Constantine was coronated in Jerusalem until the Sassanids conquered it in 614. But, they are all "emperors" and not "kings".

This is false. Sigurd was the first king to personally take part in a crusade, but wasn't even among the first 20 European rulers to step foot in the holy land.

@@Unlitedsoul I apologize, that is what I meant.

@@Unlitedsoul Hmmmmm. Is it valide to count people who became rulers later or not? I'll have to think about that... I should probably do as you did and separate out the crusades from other wars though. They really are their own animal. Thanks!

Ayyyy finally found a mount and blade fan

That's a nice head you have on your shoulders...

And allied with the Mongols. lol.

@@szarekhthesilent2047 Yes lol, even the Crusaders later on allied with the heathen Mongols to try to win against the Mamelukes.

The Byzantines would use anyone in their army. They probably would have recruited satan himself if they were able.

The roman army had allways been open to mercenaries. Ironnicly the emperors personal bodyguards were in the most cases recruited from foreign man as they were veiwed as political neutral

@@alpharius8264 The Ayyubids did that with the Mameluks as well. The Ottomans' entire core professional infantry was composed of foreign slaves.. albeit converted. Noone is saying the practice was unusual, the entire point of my comment was to point out that it wasn't. Because I found it weird that the Metatron would use the fact that the Eastern Romans used Norse mercenaries as an argument for the latters not being considered as enemies to Chrisendom and a menace when the Romans did that with the Turks as well.

Baptism washed away your sins. Before the Sacrament of Confession was invented, save Baptism until most of your sinning days are behind you.

Ac Valhalla is terrible and total fantasy game 😂

@@RealRagnar816 I thought so too but was blown away when I started it recently

@@RealRagnar816 its a game after all... but of course if you like historical facts then the game is not good hahaha I don't care if the game is historically correct, I just enjoy playing it. If the subject is history, I prefer to read.

@@RealRagnar816 Based. That game was hot garbage.

Probably political reasons too. Since the church was a useful tool of the king and the kings noticed

@@arawn1061 the Christian Divine Right also made the pesky business of controlling the populace a lot easier

They did engage in the Northern Crusades beginning in the 1100s. This time period also saw numerous Crusades against rival Christians sects the Catholic Church considered heretical, as well as local Crusades against the Eastern Orthodox (both against the Byzantines and against smaller populations in the Baltics) as well as against fellow Catholics, for political and financial reasons.

Pretty much the same with the Anglo-Saxon kings as well, which ironically led to the Vikings waging their own kind of crusade against the English for leaving their religion

Also as the kings of the north saw that a christina population was easier to control as it was pretty much seen that disovedience towards the king was disobieince towards god as the king was blessed by the church.

No it look quite awhile to christanize the Norse.

That and the amount of uh.... pious donations you could mercifully extract from Scandinavian mountains and forests was not exactly promising to anyone who would try to budget a major military undertaking on the scale of mainstream crusades.

@@Saeronor but that didn't stop the Baltic or Wendish crusade near the same area

Well the Danes where part of the Baltic crusades after they converted.

@@cariopuppetmaster Wendish? Nowhere near the scale or effort comparable to "thousands of kilometers to reach Palestine, fighting actual powers on the way". These were often local, march lords running things, with Germany proper stepping in when stuff got really hairy, like in late X. And the area was pretty much behind the corner, only poor infrastructure prolonging the process. Baltic? Initially a grueling march into the wild, but even then it was more than 100 years *after* crusades got into full swing. Hell, Teutonic Order pushing into Prussia was a child of that earlier period. The Prussia Project was basically its life extension after Holy Land got Ackbared. So, really, not the *first* choice for participants, not even the sloppy seconds (Hungary episode for Teutons). And then, after breaking some uprisings and finally consolidating in Prussia, it became even more of a local effort, Orders running the show on day-to-day basis, with western knights purchasing Season Passes when it suited them.

@Kroi Albanoi Vikings would stomp prussians

I don't think they were much different from Baltic pagans. Anyway it still is an interesting topic and I love Wardruna music, I stumble accidentally on it.

@Kroi Albanoi They slaughtered balts and only had any problems when they had pomeranian aid or when they had no support from Europeans during the winter months, and they STILL won.

It would've been "lose". Let's assume, for a moment, that the Norse were mediocre warriors with inferior ships. Even then, if the sea didn't swallow the crusaders, the deep Swedish forests, expansive Norwegian mountains, and the cold and deep snow of the Scandinavian winter would break them. They'd literally split up and get lost in the forests; the mountains would force them through narrow valleys, into ambush after ambush, and the first winter would kill off the few survivors. However, reality would've been worse yet; the Norse were capable warriors, with advanced tactics, and had naval supremacy. At most, they could've taken the Danish mainland, but they would've been unable to hold it. There's barely a spot of Denmark that isn't within a days frisky march from the beach. The Norse would've waged a sea borne guerrilla war, something they had already very convincingly proved their skill at. More likely, yet, they wouldn't have been able to take the Danish mainland. And, yes, all internal squabbles would've been put on hold, as well as most international expeditions, as the powers in Scandinavia _and their allies_ focused on dealing with that fundamental threat. Depending on exactly when in the Viking era, there might be allies arriving from Finland, the Baltic, Rus (present day Russia and Ukraine), Poland, and parts of Germany. Young men who otherwise couldn't find a place on a proper war expeditions (which were quite exclusive) would jump at a chance to win glory so close to home, just a long walk and a short boat ride. For perspective, I once read an analysis estimating Norway alone, during most of the Viking era, had the weapons and men to raise an army of 200,000 men (but not the ships to transport them very far). That's fucking terrifying! There's no way a crusade against Scandinavia could've become anything short of a total disaster for Christian Europe, while also strengthening Norse paganism greatly, and resulting in a major backlash. The Viking era is what happened without Scandinavia being united. Imagine what would've happened with Scandinavia united! Imagine every wealthy Norseman pouring his resources into building ships, and Viking ship in the Medieval World, packed with warriors, descending simultaneously on France, without warning, using the tactics and strategies that a much smaller force used to conquer nearly all of Britain, save only Wessex. The major difference would be that, this time, the Vikings would be _really_ pissed off, rather than just venting a little while shopping without paying. Repeat that in every Christian region of Europe accessible by sea or river. There would be little left, other than ashes and smoke.

@@erikjarandson5458 oh I agree completely! There only chance would've been to try & divide & conquer, getting one to side w/them, & it wouldn't have worked once it was known as a religious war. They would've had to fight a united Scandinavia & be slaughtered in doing so. Th weather& terrain alone would have destroyed them ( as you stated) before th Vikings had a proper chance to🍻

i know its sounds cringe but man, take a look in the books! They are very much enjoyable and easy to reand and understand!

Not cringe at all, didn't know there were books! Thanks I might look into that

That shows more dramatization than an accurate Recounting of history

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That is historically inaccurate & unrealistic,as oil then would not have been worth such a crusade.

Retainer:"'Thzy haven't invented oil yet and instead spend their days trying to develop techniques of building ships with ridiculous little hexagonal tools and difficult to understand diagrams sire" .

A true metagamer, would not invade them, convert them instead and then use for crusades in the ME. Hmm...

As if the modern world doesn't run on oil.