Why didn't the Germans just send up all their interceptors to stop the thousand bomber raids?

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When the British and Americans were bombing Germany in WW2, why didn't the Germans just send up all their interceptors to stop the 'thousand' bomber raids? A simple question, asked by my Patreon, Alexander Kerscher. Let's answer that question today!
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@lowtierwaifu
@lowtierwaifu 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Germany just click "More Ground Crews?" It only costs 20 command power and you get +10% air efficiency in the zone.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
They should have quit the game when it was obvious that they were losing so as to avoid the embarrassment. That would have annoyed the other players too
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they just build synthetics and dedicate a research slo- University to research extra fuel gain
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 2 жыл бұрын
@@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 try playing Canada. It is a boring game until u produce 50 subs. I always have free trade and export lots of rubber and Al and oil.
@Ciborium
@Ciborium 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight Nobody likes a f'ing "rage quitter".
@nikolairostov3326
@nikolairostov3326 2 жыл бұрын
why didn’t Germany just max out the infrastructure level in the east?
@Alte.Kameraden
@Alte.Kameraden 2 жыл бұрын
"If only Germany had more, used more, produced more." As if resources are limitless. This argument often used is historic fantasy.
@trickledowneconomicsfail7127
@trickledowneconomicsfail7127 2 жыл бұрын
i agree with you but tbf, if Germany had mobilised its economy efficiently from the very start, they might have been able to do some things better than they did historically. For example, if they had the capacity to streamline their truck convoys, instead of relying on captured equipment, then maybe their supply line disaster in Russia wouldnt have been severe. I also remember reading something about Rommel saying they should mass produce anti tank guns for the east. Only would have delayed the war, which ironically would have ended up worse for Germany since we know they get nuked by late 45 regardless.
@Drumpro31
@Drumpro31 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edax_Royeaux that it not true at all of England
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of error and misinformation in this video. First of all, Germany was not behind in radar technology. They were roughly equal with British, even slightly ahead. But overall radar technology was in its infancy, especially considering airborne radars. Bombers flying at night would usually get trough, especially since they were flying in streams therefore it was difficult to amass all fighters at single point. Nevertheless, Germans did have certain spectacular success like for example air battle over Nuremberg in 1944. Daily raids were met with idea of concentrating as much as possible fighters to a single weak point (bomber group without escort for example) . Second Schweinfurt raid was one example where Luftwaffe managed to catch unescorted bombers and devastated them. However, in general, especially since Mustangs appeared in number in 1944, it was difficult for heavy German fighters (armed to destroy bombers) to avoid much nimbler escorts that had better performance at high altitude. Germans countered with using Bf-109 to fight escorts and Fw-190 to fight bombers, but at this point it devolved into battle of attrition they could not win. Overall, LW did what they could and there is no glaring flaw in their strategy, juts the situation was like that , and they had no realistic chance of stopping determined enemy with huge numerical superiority.
@truekhmer7292
@truekhmer7292 2 жыл бұрын
If Germany wasn’t in Germany and Nazis weren’t Nazis, non-Nazi Germany could have won the war
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 2 жыл бұрын
@@truekhmer7292 Actually, opposite is true :P If every German was fanatical like for example SS, they had a chance for victory. But unfortunately for them, they were not Ubermensch.
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of an old joke: Two German soldiers standing on a field in France talking, just after the invasion. The "old" soldier to the youngster: "If you look up in the sky and see brown aircraft, it is RAF. If you see silver shining aircraft, it is the Americans, and if you see nothing, it is Luftwaffe".
@ArtjomKoslow
@ArtjomKoslow 2 жыл бұрын
I know a different Variation... "If they come at Day- Americans, if they come at Night- British, if they don't come at all- That's ours!"
@ojvamysigt
@ojvamysigt 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ArtjomKoslow Remember that too, it's in Antony Beevors book on the D-day. It's a great read!
@somerandomvertebrate9262
@somerandomvertebrate9262 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojvamysigt A great read full of holes and inaccuracies, though.
@gnosticbrian3980
@gnosticbrian3980 2 жыл бұрын
If British bombers fly over, the Germans take to their air raid shelters; if German bombers fly over, the British take to their air raid shelters. If Amewrican bombers fly over, the Germans and the British take to their air raid shelters.
@basdune9534
@basdune9534 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how humor can still stand in a desperate situation.
@gaborkorthy8355
@gaborkorthy8355 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was on the receiving end of those bombers in Budapest Hungary. She said you really did not need the air raid sirens because you could hear the bombers coming 20-30 minutes before they arrived.
@cas343
@cas343 Жыл бұрын
Mine too :( she got blown 2km away and woke up in a tree after a bomb hit her bakery.
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Жыл бұрын
Those raids were conducted by the 15th air force, flying from Italy.
@wilsonj4705
@wilsonj4705 2 жыл бұрын
“I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.” The Luftwaffe in WW-II having to fight The British, The Soviet Union, and The United States all at the same time.
@hansmoss7395
@hansmoss7395 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion a very poorly researched report.
@eze8970
@eze8970 2 жыл бұрын
Also - The Norwegians, Danish, Dutch, Belgium, French, Polish, Yugoslavs, Greeks (incl Crete), Free French, etc, etc
@wilsonj4705
@wilsonj4705 2 жыл бұрын
@@eze8970 Yep
@nicholasconder4703
@nicholasconder4703 2 жыл бұрын
That statement has a certain ring to it.
@librarian0075
@librarian0075 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasconder4703 Sounds like precious little hope, they must have felt doomed.
@captainswoop8722
@captainswoop8722 2 жыл бұрын
On the psychological effect of the Flak on the population. When the AA batteries were moved from London down in to Kent to better intercept the incoming raids it had an effect on the London population, they thought they were being left defenceless even though the AA was more effective so some units were brought back in to the city. Just the sound of the guns firing was reassuring.
@JVDAWG1
@JVDAWG1 2 жыл бұрын
People are so stupid.
@vidura
@vidura 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Nothing like long bursts of AA-gun fire on backyard.
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically AAA in the cities often had the undesirable result of debris raining back down on the city, damaging buildings & causing casualties. This happened in the UK, USA & elsewhere. (because like firing a pistol straight up in the air; what goes up [that doesn't have enough thrust for escape velocity] also comes back down) Putting most of the guns on the coast was far more effective, especially against the V-1 "Buzz Bombs".
@graemesydney38
@graemesydney38 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimtaylor294 You frequently see on news reports 'those of middle eastern appearance' doing that in celebration - and it kills people!!! About 30 people a year in Palestine die from falling bullets. Some celebration!
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 2 жыл бұрын
@@graemesydney38 Precisely. Mythbusters found that - in a practical experiment - that even the small caliber stuff was deadly. It doesn't beg thinking about what damage the debris from 3.7" & 5.5" guns must have done.
@AFGuidesHD
@AFGuidesHD 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Germany just continue to fight the RAF instead of giving up during BoB ?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
They did keep fighting them during "The Blitz", which lasted until May 1941. Then their attention turned to the East.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler ordered Goering to switch from hitting the airfields and factories to targeting the population of London because he wanted a quick cheap propaganda victory and london is a much larger target that one can effectively hit at night unlike an airfield.
@awitcher5303
@awitcher5303 2 жыл бұрын
Barbarossa couldnt wait they wouldnt have the oil to invade past 1941
@edwinparker6732
@edwinparker6732 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler decided to let the U-boats starve Britain instead, he needed the majority of the Luftwaffe for the invasion of the Soviet Union.
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 2 жыл бұрын
Because they couldn't. The Luftwaffe was suffering heavily during the Battle of Britain both from combat losses and airframes becoming worn out through excessive use. They simply couldn't maintain the operational pace of the Battle of Britain much longer. Meanwhile, towards the end of the Battle of Britain, the RAF was actually increasing the number of airframes and pilots in fighter command as new pilot training programs and production came online.
@PavewayJDAM
@PavewayJDAM 2 жыл бұрын
In the words of an ancient scholar, "Don't start none, won't be none."
@Mrch33ky
@Mrch33ky 2 жыл бұрын
so funny i fell off my dinosaur
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 2 жыл бұрын
The Greek Scholar Smithicus
@possumGFX
@possumGFX 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question..that empire that the british had..how did that come to pass?
@moss8448
@moss8448 2 жыл бұрын
boy ain't that the truth
@williamtoner8674
@williamtoner8674 2 жыл бұрын
@@possumGFX Well it didn't involve Germany. Nice try though
@DoddyIshamel
@DoddyIshamel 2 жыл бұрын
Great video TIK. I would just add that the Germans had actually concentrated interceptors to decimate incoming bomber attacks in 1939/40, which is why the British switched to night bombing in the first place. It is such a common theme through the whole war in so many aspects. German superiority leads to the allies adapting. The Germans take forever to adapt in kind and by the time they do either the allies have adapted again or have built overwhelming force. It happened in the air, at sea and on land.
@shannonkohl68
@shannonkohl68 2 жыл бұрын
One might suspect that a philosophy that claims you're superior to everyone else, may result in you being slow to recognize when you're being out played.
@user-qf6yt3id3w
@user-qf6yt3id3w 2 жыл бұрын
The bottom line is that the US and UK were run by regimes that were just better at processing information than the German one.
@johnpublic6582
@johnpublic6582 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannonkohl68 Which kinda flies in the face of the "superiority". You might better describe it as "starting from a position of advantage because you know you are going to start it and they don't."
@johnpublic6582
@johnpublic6582 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-qf6yt3id3w "Free and open capitalism" is the concept you are pointing to. It beats socialism every time.
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpublic6582 Aye. Free Market Capitalism > Command Economy & Autarky. Everytime. The western allies after all even produced enough kit to be able to resupply the USSR.
@wetchicken4793
@wetchicken4793 2 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this faster than the German generals blaming Hitler for their mistakes after the war
@faeembrugh
@faeembrugh 2 жыл бұрын
Flying at night, let alone finding bombers and then shooting them down was pretty damn difficult. Many German night fighter pilots were actually originally from the bomber arm as they had been trained in instrument flying and day fighter pilots were at a distinct disadvantage in acting as ersazt night fighters.
@touristguy87
@touristguy87 2 жыл бұрын
...wasn't a problem for the Japanese...the Nazi pilots were just a bunch of pussies. Even US Navy pilots learned to fly and fight at night without radar. My guess is that the real problem is that they were busy attacking the Soviets.
@delmarchipperson2049
@delmarchipperson2049 2 жыл бұрын
Think about it, you’re calling combat pilots pussies. I imagine being shot at while flying in the dark of night would make you soil your panties.
@touristguy87
@touristguy87 2 жыл бұрын
@@delmarchipperson2049 ...no need to assail their manhood, is there? Remember the old adage: if they tell you that they're not scared in combat, they're lying. They climb into a plane, there's a chance that at any moment a round could take them out, or down. They used to call it The Magic BB". Why do you think that all combat pilots had ice-water running through their veins? Some of them had to lose. Some had to get shot down, sometimes behind enemy lines, and some had to die in combat, sometimes behind friendly lines. Some had to suffer "life-changing injuries", and some had to watch their plane spiral into the ground. Even others died without even knowing what hit them. Still more would get shot by the enemy while hanging from a parachute, or lynched by civilians after capture, even eaten by sharks if they somehow escaped from a ditched aircraft without drowning. Or maybe they got shot-up or their engine quit while they were trying to land supposedly "safe and secure" at their home base. I'm sure that there were emotions all over the spectrum. The US pilots were lucky, they flew a certain number of missions and were rotated back home, the war over for them, certainly after a significant injury, little to no threat of dying in an attack once they were home. No such luxuries were given to the European pilots. For them the war would only end when they could no longer fly combat missions and likely even then they would get a ground posting.
@scottparis6355
@scottparis6355 2 жыл бұрын
A surprisingly large number of German night-fighter losses were due, not to enemy action, but to routine night flying accidents; disorientation, getting lost, flying into wires and mountains. Many of them simply disappeared, and were not found until after the war, if ever.
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 2 жыл бұрын
The big problem with flying at night is that you can't see anything! You have an instrument or two to help control the plane, but look outside and you see nothing but black.
@dingusdean1905
@dingusdean1905 2 жыл бұрын
20:35 the resilience of the B-17s was legendary and surprised not only their enemy, but even the bomber crews. The wartime song "Coming in on a wing and a prayer" was written about B-17s that would return from missions looking more like scrap than plane, their condition so poor that their flight was maintained supposedly only by a single wing an prayer.
@user-yj6ul9kz3p
@user-yj6ul9kz3p 9 ай бұрын
bullshit propaganda
@johnlenin830
@johnlenin830 2 жыл бұрын
German ace pilot Günther Rall in his memoirs "My Flight Book" wrote about the captured Soviet pilot: "So this is how they really look - representatives of the Mongolian steppe hordes, as their propaganda presents, the very subhumans to whom a humane attitude is unacceptable!Before us is a Warrior who immediately commands the respect of anyone who is a Warrior himself. I then sarcastically thought that sometimes you can have more in common with the enemy than with some people in your environment.
@vidura
@vidura 2 жыл бұрын
Many humans make the mistake of generalizing from single individual experiences. People like Günther do not realize the simple-mindedness (your whole POV is from YOUR point only, from a SINGLE instance) of their reasoning. You cannot look at individual, rare examples if you seek to understand a bigger consept than a single specimen. A man who thinks that wisdom is to be found from a singular source, rather than from the understanding of the whole, is not the one with a sound mind.
@tombrunila2695
@tombrunila2695 2 жыл бұрын
@@vidura, remember that Rall wrote those words long after the war had ended in a humiliating and total defeat! It was time to look like having been a staunch anti-nazi during the war! I don't give any credibility to the claims in the biographies of any German officer or soldier that they were anti-nazi during the war!
@Pantone2695
@Pantone2695 2 жыл бұрын
@@tombrunila2695 Totally agree. I've read my share of German soldier memoirs an alot of them were entertaining but we have to take it with a grain of salt. Only Hans Rudel's book seems to be genuine and showed his true feelings. Probably because he was an uncompromising bastard who didn't mince words. LoL.
@0Turbox
@0Turbox 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing you do in or before a war, you dehumanize your enemy. Every side did it.
@tombrunila2695
@tombrunila2695 2 жыл бұрын
@@0Turbox , even that the Germans did best to themselves, they started long before they started the war!
@mvfc7637
@mvfc7637 2 жыл бұрын
let me guess, “no oil???” But in all seriousness, the 1000 bomber raids are a good example of why concerntrating your forces against the enemy is so effective. Germany’s air force was spread out all over its territory so as to defend all points on the map, whilst the attacking RAF/USAAF could simply concentrate at one point and easily overwhelm the defending fighters.
@haroldgodwinson832
@haroldgodwinson832 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the RAF have oil shortages?
@mvfc7637
@mvfc7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickdanger3802 because they had secure sources of oil from the Middle East and the United States.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 2 жыл бұрын
@@mvfc7637 As I understand it the Med was closed to transit from June 1940 to mid 1943 requiring shipping to go around Africa, a fairly lengthy detour.
@mvfc7637
@mvfc7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickdanger3802 the UK was also receiving oil supplies from the US which was the biggest producer at the time, they had secure oil supplies from multiple sources.
@5anjuro
@5anjuro 2 жыл бұрын
A grim Boromir meme: "One doesn't simply send all of his interceptors".
@hoodoo2001
@hoodoo2001 2 жыл бұрын
A critical differnce in British numbers was that by 1943 there bombers were mostly four engined Halifaxes and Lancasters (of improved performance) and in 1942 much of their bombing force was still twin engined (with lesser performance). So 600 bombers in 1943 were more effective than 1,000 bombers in 1942.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It was in The Spring of 1943 that Bomber Command really began to affect the German Economy.
@FifinatorKlon
@FifinatorKlon 2 жыл бұрын
It's also pretty insane how long lasting the effects of all that is. Up until today when I walk with my grandma through my home town she tells me which buildings were left standing and which had to be rebuilt. The fact that years after the war ended a dud killed one of her friends a few meters away from her also doesn't help. Sometimes construction sites have to be closed down due to bombs being found somewhere to this day. Bombs and mines are probably the shittiest aspect of war imho
@ronsee6458
@ronsee6458 2 жыл бұрын
A man tried to cut a civil war era cannon shell with a cutting torch...he died
@perspectiveflip
@perspectiveflip Жыл бұрын
Happens all the time here pretty wild
@johnschuh8616
@johnschuh8616 24 күн бұрын
Plus artillery. Which is he biggest killer on the battlefield.
@angelonunez8555
@angelonunez8555 2 жыл бұрын
1. Minor correction--That figure of 2,262 Luftwaffe single-seat fighter pilots lost included more than just the month of May 1944. It refers to losses for the first five months of 1944. Averaged out, this means that the Luftwaffe lost during each month of this period close to the same number of pilots that the RAF did during the entire Battle of Britain (more than 3.5 months).
@jamesmortimer4016
@jamesmortimer4016 2 жыл бұрын
That's what you get for bullying one airforce till it decide to just stop dogfighting you and shoot you early instead, while also giving two other airforces ample time to prepare dogfighting you.
@tokencivilian8507
@tokencivilian8507 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. One of the, IMO, underappreciated aspects in the air war of attrition was the allied ability to train competent replacement air crew in vast quantities. Losing 30% of the Ploesti raid, or the 60 airplanes on the Schweinfurt-Regensburg raid, plus more killed and wounded on the airplanes that made it back was awful, but replacements, and more, arrived and refilled the squadrons in short order. In the Pacific, when whole squadrons of torpedo planes were wiped out, a replacement squadron would be plugged in to the air group in short order. And not hastily trained replacements either, but fully trained ones. Think about how much fuel it took to train just a single air crew - how many gallons / tons for the several hundred hours of flight time that a well trained pilot should have before going to an operational squadron. Then do the same for the co-pilot (of a bomber). And the navigators needed actual flight time to learn their trade. And how many practice bombs would a bombardier drop in training. And how many hours of target tugs were required for an aerial gunner. And the fighter pilots - there's basic flight skills, then aerobatics, then basic aerial gunnery, then aerial tactics, etc. The investment in fuel, trainer airplanes, training personnel and support aircraft like target tugs is tremendous. Having just returned from Wichita and the air oriented museums there, companies like Cessna and Beech were proud to have been heavily involved in the production of various types of trainer aircraft during the war. It helped to have effectively unlimited fuel (at least in the US and Canada) and great year round flying weather in the US southwest to aid in the industrial production of trained air crews.
@mvfc7637
@mvfc7637 2 жыл бұрын
very well said, it always comes down to the numbers and logistics, war fighting is a science as much as it is about bravery.
@davidtuttle7556
@davidtuttle7556 2 жыл бұрын
There were two Schweinfurt Regensburg raids. The first came on August 17th, 1943 and the second on October 13th, also 1943. 60 bombers lost 89 damaged on the first raid. 77 planes lost and 121 damaged on the second. Bear in mind each plane carried ten highly trained men with specialties.
@mvfc7637
@mvfc7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidtuttle7556 the USAAF suspended their daylight bombing campaign of Germany after these two raids and becuase of this, the German’s were quite comfortable going into 1944 and considered their biggest threat from the air were the nighttime raids by the RAF and this where they directed their limited resources to.
@davidtuttle7556
@davidtuttle7556 2 жыл бұрын
@@mvfc7637 they suspended it temporarily but resumed it in January of 44 once the P.51 and P.47 were available in sufficient numbers to provide full escort coverage in January of 44. Once that happened, the USAAF and RAF restarted POINT BLANK, and shot the Luftwaffe fighters down in scores.
@mvfc7637
@mvfc7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidtuttle7556 correct. If you watch Greg’s Airplanes and Automobiles channel he discusses how the Luftwaffe erroneously developed the Bf.109 to carry heavier cannon and even aerial rockets in the belief they’d be dealing with unescorted waves of USAAF bomber’s in 1944 for which they needed these weapons, whilst at the same time neglecting the development of engine technology which would have hepled the Bf.109 perform better at higher altitudes against the escorting P.51’s etc.
@pedrolopez8057
@pedrolopez8057 2 жыл бұрын
It's no surprise that the Germans misread the weather on 6/6. The allies had systematically hunted down German weather ships and took out weather stations as well. They were almost blind to the weather coming across the Atlantic.
@AtlasAugustus
@AtlasAugustus 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen yet, but I imagine it had to do with a shortage of raw materials, fuel and being tied up in the East.
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 2 жыл бұрын
"If they could work from home and watch the children" Oh, Hermann Meyer, you are so funny.
@morningstar9233
@morningstar9233 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently Goring had a very high IQ, but he really dropped a lot of clangers.
@TribuneAquila
@TribuneAquila 2 жыл бұрын
@@morningstar9233 who was the IQ test administered by? The goring institute perhaps?
@tomyuen1995
@tomyuen1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@TribuneAquila They gave the defendants psychological tests at the Nuremberg Trials, and each were given an IQ score. Goering quite famously got 138 in it, the third highest, behind Schacht and Seyss-Inquart.
@urviechalex9963
@urviechalex9963 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomyuen1995 Being highly intelligent and a complete idiot both at the same time is obviously no contradiction. :-)
@yesyesyesyes1600
@yesyesyesyes1600 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Corona joke
@penguin6815
@penguin6815 2 жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of videos where you answer questions from fans
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
I like them too because sometimes the questions are really challenging and I have to dive deep. But the problem is, because I do dive deep, and because Battlestorm Stalingrad takes up a significant portion of my time, I've fallen massively behind with the Q&As and now have people complaining that they've been waiting too long 😣
@grogery1570
@grogery1570 2 жыл бұрын
I recently read the book "Night Fighter" which is about British night fighters in WWII. Even when the British planes had a significant radar advantage it was still very difficult to shoot down enemy aircraft. One of the most dramatic chapters is how a German bomber was chased at night by a radar equipped mosquito with neither plane getting a visual sighting of the other, no shot being fired by either aircraft but a victory being recorded by the mosquito when the German crashed into the ground in an attempt to shake the Mosquito. While this book is a biography, if the author is to be believed there was no time during the war when it was easy to shoot down enemy aircraft.
@vassilizaitzev1
@vassilizaitzev1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tik. Had a rough month; dropped a lot what I was doing. Getting back into your videos. Need to finish Battlestorm, but your video on Eric Hunt was interesting, so was the issue of Hitler and the heavy tanks. Hope all is well.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I hadn't seen a message from you in a while! Is everything okay now? To be honest, I'm in desperate need of some time off... I'm as exhausted as the soldiers at Stalingrad
@vassilizaitzev1
@vassilizaitzev1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight Ah, I’m ok now. Death in the family, lost a cat. Work drama. Can’t say October was a fun month for me. You should take a break Tik. Your Patrons will understand; this takes a lot of work.
@Silverstream-74
@Silverstream-74 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight one more push
@bufordghoons9981
@bufordghoons9981 2 жыл бұрын
@@vassilizaitzev1 I 2nd the motion for TIK to take a break. There is adequate material (who has watched every single video?) to sustain the site while TIK recharges his batteries for a period of time. An announcement by TIK, "I am going to take a short break, an interlude, before the next opening act" would suffice. It would also build suspense as people speculate on what the next video is going to be. Will TIK perfect his Hitler voice by eating Grape Nuts (Grape Gravel) cereal to sound more gravel-like? Will TIK provide an update on the movements and machinations of his enemies? Many of his enemies are jealous that they can't do as good and thorough a job as he does because of bias or lack of critical thinking skills. A little suspense and drama thrown into the mix wouldn't hurt the site a bit in my opinion. I certainly won't stop watching if there is a delay.
@diarradunlap9337
@diarradunlap9337 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight Rest and Refit, TIK.
@jangelbrich7056
@jangelbrich7056 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this summary of the air war! It was actually the air war over Germany topic that got me into history in the first place, 40+ years ago. And that started because my great-grandmother would repeatedly and vividly tell her story of the 1943 raid on Hamburg, from a civilian point of view of course. Luckily for our family, all except one survived it, but the family was only lucky to do so in the bunkers because the firestorm area of Barmbek/Hamburg was uninhabitable after that.
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM Жыл бұрын
And I bet the conquered people also have their own stories to tell.
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 жыл бұрын
Germany certainly knew about British RADAR technology. Two mosquitoes crashed and their centimetric RADAR sets were taken to Telefunken Berlin where the engineers managed to build a working set. They turned it on and saw a map of Berlin in front of them.
@danesorensen1775
@danesorensen1775 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one. I have a personal interest here because my grandfather's brother was the tail gunner on a Lancaster, and was shot down and killed during a raid on Trappes the night before D-Day. The kill was attributed to either Hauptmann Hubert Rauth or Oberleutnant Ernst-Georg Drünkler, and I'd long wondered how they could narrow it down to two specific pilots on what was surely a swirling chaotic mess (in the dark, no less!). If there were only two planes in each "box", well, that explains that. Thanks heaps, TIK.
@albusvoltavern4500
@albusvoltavern4500 2 жыл бұрын
Marshal Goering may very well have been right in his assessment that Germany was safe from bombing raids. The problem was that he didn’t take into account the progression of war, and assumed the defenses would be adequate forever and not casually tossed aside by innovation and progress, as total war tends to do.
@trickledowneconomicsfail7127
@trickledowneconomicsfail7127 2 жыл бұрын
i dont know enough about Goering to say definitvely if he was an idiot or not but from what ive heard and read, he seems like he was way out his depth; there mostly because he was friends with Hitler.
@Paciat
@Paciat 2 жыл бұрын
The only Jägermeister in 200 years was out his depth? He had the most depth out of all known nazis. +140kg of depth on morphine.
@bezahltersystemtroll5055
@bezahltersystemtroll5055 2 жыл бұрын
He was an immoral adventurer that had been too succesfull for his own good. And yeah, shooting Morphine probably didn't help.
@user-qf6yt3id3w
@user-qf6yt3id3w 2 жыл бұрын
@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 Interestingly the Allies detoxed him and he was much more alert at Nuremberg than he had been in the war.
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 2 жыл бұрын
In 1939/40 it was no joke at all. Even short raids at daylight like on German naval bases ended in utter desaster for the RAF and literally no damage to any target. German radar even in 1939/40 was good enough to catch the intruders and 109s and 110s had a feast amongst Wellingtons and Whitleys. It was out of this learning experience that bomber command went for night attacks, improved tactics and better bombers. Germany on the other hand saw no need for the dedicated air defence it later developed until that Cologne raid - there simply was no need since the actual threat was believed to be minimal and was in fact minimal. And they were a little distracted by their main war in the east, which they believed they'd win by the end of 1941 and still in 1942. They somewhat missed the right moment, that's for sure. By the time they realized they really needed a "roof", they found themselves in trouble in the East, in the South and in the West all at the same time. Production capacity wasn't at Total War level either, that is even without any thought on resources. Somehow they still managed to fight off Allied air raids during 1943 to a point where daylight raids over Germany without appropriate escort were considered too costly to continue. Night bombers also suffered heavily and constantly. Bomber command had to make a decision: a few 1000 bomber raids here and there or constant pressure.
@romanbrough
@romanbrough 2 жыл бұрын
I recall reading that at one time in 1944, the Germans had around one million men and one hundred thousand guns devoted to AA defence. Perhaps the diversion of forces away from the Eastern and Normandy fronts was even more important than the damage caused by the Allied bomber's.
@user-oz5wt5jk9y
@user-oz5wt5jk9y 2 жыл бұрын
Those men probably never went to either front anyways, so I doubt it. The damage was tremendous lol.
@anthonywitham2305
@anthonywitham2305 2 жыл бұрын
Hi TIK. Also the RAF sent the "wooden wonder" in night fighter form to fly in the bomber streams to attack the German night fighters. They sent them on patrols over the German night fighter bases to attack any returning aircraft. The Germans had to turn off the runway lights and extinguish any light. There is a memoir from a German night fighter who told the story of landing on a darkened field, when a ground crew man shone a red light to help him taxi back. He screamed at the man to put the light out. Then as he feared suddenly the runway was lit up by the 20mm canon shells and .303 bullets from a Mosquito that had been patrolling near by. While he and his radar man got out of the plane it was destroyed and the ground crew man was hit.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 9 ай бұрын
Very late in the War, last quarter of 1944 in fact when the Mossies' were released to do bomber escort with Centimetric Air Intercept Radar. Basically after the Germans were kicked out of France and the ground launched V-1 Offensive was over. Bomber Harris had been asking for Night Fighter Mossies to escort the Bomber stream for 2 years at that point.
@albertstadler2639
@albertstadler2639 2 жыл бұрын
In addition to the reasons for bombing Cologne Orwell mentioned: Making Cologne the target of the air raid makes sense at the time because it was easy to "find" due to its location at the river rhine. In the early stages of war, the british did not have good radar technology to identify cities from air without specific landmarks. Same goes for Hamburg, Lübeck, Rostock, etc., they were also easy to find because they are at the sea.
@kano7432
@kano7432 2 жыл бұрын
Although I haven’t watched your video yet, I’m glad you decided to cover this topic. Thank you for another amazing video!
@phrogman4654
@phrogman4654 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Germans had the same thought problem the Japanese had; they assumed their Homeland was exempt from being attacked as long as they're attacking/winning. Their mindset was a product of their time, and is hard for us to understand in hindsight.
@johngriffiths118
@johngriffiths118 2 жыл бұрын
Both regimes were profoundly irrational
@uncleeric3317
@uncleeric3317 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Love the analysis on specific WW2 questions such as this.
@JamesSavik
@JamesSavik 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has to be mentioned that Germany lost a LOT of experienced and trained pilots during the Battle of Britain. This affected them for the rest of the war. Not only were they short of pilots, they were short of INSTRUCTORS and experienced officers to command squadrons. In the 42/43 timeframe, the Luftwaffe had more airframes than qualified pilots.
@juliancate7089
@juliancate7089 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a statement by a Luftwaffe veteran who flew various versions of the Bf-110 (Germans and Allies both called it an Me-110 during the war. Not sure why people insist that we've got to use "Bf" now.) that he often was sent to intercept bomber streams but he never caught them. He complained that his plane, while deadly to bombers if caught, was too slow to climb and it's top speed was too low to allow for distant intercepts. The bombers would already be on their way back to England by the time his plane got to the original target. It was illuminating in understanding both the limits of the technology and of the Luftwaffe.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 11 ай бұрын
I think it's called the Bf 110 because that was the official designation. Like many of the German nightfighters it was pretty sluggish. It would win by sneaking up on its target. If it was spotted it wasn't likely to score a kill.
@zerko2787
@zerko2787 2 жыл бұрын
Hello TIK, I am a little amazed. The Germans actually tried to build a Schwerpunkt ("The Great Blow"). As Described in Chapter 26 of Adolf Gallands "The First and the Last". This fighter force was build up in the last quarter of 1944, to shoot down bombers; but in the end the aircraft were used for "Unternehmen Bodenplatte". And yes, Chapter 26 is actually called "The Great Blow".
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos. The "flying artillery" had a huge effect on WWII, both in attack and defence.
@frednerk3477
@frednerk3477 2 жыл бұрын
Another good source of info on this is the book "Cover of Darkness" by Roderick Chisholm. Originally an RAF pilot of a night-fighter he eventually got promoted "upstairs" to planning better ways of getting better results, including the methods of misleading the German air controllers and pilots, resulting in the advantages for the Allied bombers being increased.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 2 жыл бұрын
Great video TIK. On another note this only shows how foolish it was for the Germans willingly making too many enemies like the industrial sleeping giant that was United States when they did in the middle of other campaigns and wars with the Soviet Union and British when they were short on supplies and extremely stretched out.
@purplefood1
@purplefood1 2 жыл бұрын
I guess if you think willpower is the most important thing and you don't think you're enemies have it you're gonna discard the idea they have enough factories to literally bury you in tanks, planes and artillery.
@AndreLuis-gw5ox
@AndreLuis-gw5ox 2 жыл бұрын
Tik actually has a video talking about the german decision to declare war on the USA, and the proposes that it was actually a logical step, since they needed to stop the vast amounts of supplies being shipped from the US to the Axis enemies
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndreLuis-gw5ox And look what happened as the result America entered the war and it was game over.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndreLuis-gw5ox As the Japanese Admiral Yamamoto said: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." Indeed that did happen and Germany was foolish to think they could take on the United States in their current situation.
@diarradunlap9337
@diarradunlap9337 2 жыл бұрын
@@purplefood1 Particularly if you take an extremely racialist view of the world; which Hitler and National Socialism did/does. Combined with the idea that "the will" can override all enemies and obstacles, they poo-pooed the very logical conclusions that some in the German High Command had ALREADY made: 1. A two-front (by 1944, it was already a three-front) war would go very BADLY for Germany. 2. If the United States of America got involved, it would only be a matter of time before its industrial capacity would overwhelm Germany with materiel. Also, having to take on two nation-states who EACH have DOUBLE your population and an Empire that rules over 1/4 of the world, Germany's only hope of winning would be if either their opponents had a falling out, or if each could be removed from the board via diplomatic means.
@ErikHare
@ErikHare 2 жыл бұрын
They were very short on aviation fuel, so this is not really surprising when I think about it. But it's still completely ridiculous that they had no effective response. Thank you again for another excellent analysis.
@lamwen03
@lamwen03 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to find a bomber in the dark. Airborne radars were very poor, and it would require a new doctrine and training to implement it. Time they didn't have. In the day, getting all those fighters up to 25,000 feet sucked up a LOT of fuel.
@steelths1781
@steelths1781 2 жыл бұрын
It's not really ridiculous, it was completely understandable. If they focused that much production and fuel to deal with it then they would have lost to the soviets faster as well and then people will say they were dumb for overestimating the importance of the bombers
@ErikHare
@ErikHare 2 жыл бұрын
@@steelths1781 fair enough. They weren't going to win without gasoline for tanks or airplanes so it's a question of which way you're going to lose
@steelths1781
@steelths1781 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikHare They couldn't have beaten the 3 largest economy's in the world all at the same time no matter what. It just wasn't happening.
@clintfalk
@clintfalk 2 жыл бұрын
If they had no effective response, then why was the USAAF the most dangerous branch of the US military? It had the highest rate of casualties. If you could find any living veterans of that air campaign I think they would disagree vehemently.
@PhillyPhanVinny
@PhillyPhanVinny 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode. I have been talking about how important the allied bombing campaigns were to the allied victory to many people over the last year. So many people believe that the allied bombing campaigns were a waste of time just because they see the German production numbers and see that they went up each year during the war. But they view those numbers with no other context. The Germans changed what they were producing to easier things to produce so for example they stopped making bombers and only focused on fighters. Fighters being much easier to produce then resulted in the Germans being able to build more "planes" each year during the war. They also don't see that the Germans also moved the majority of their air-force to the West to fight the Western allies and greatly increased their production of air-defense weapons. All of this made the Germans weaker in other areas and helped the allies win the war faster with less casualties then they would have if they had not bombed Germany and the other Axis nations.
@malcolmanon4762
@malcolmanon4762 2 жыл бұрын
Also of course you had the whole impact of production being dislocated, yes German production went up - but no where near the level you would expect from their economy. Then all the personnel tied down in air defence and of course Germany was now engaged in a war of attrition and a war of technology - and was destined to lose both.
@jussim.konttinen4981
@jussim.konttinen4981 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty insignificant. Axis civilian losses accounted for only 4% of all ww2 losses. This includes two atomic bombs. Explain why the administration elected by voting was not radically different.
@nottoday3817
@nottoday3817 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. The fact is that the numbers went up. More fighters instead of more bombers doesn't mean: 'Hey, we are blasting through this', it means you have another issue on your head which you previously did not have. As for making things easier to mass produce, that's something every nation did. From USSR to US
@moss8448
@moss8448 2 жыл бұрын
more air force personell were lost over Europe than all the campaigns in the Pacific
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 2 жыл бұрын
The bombing campaign resulted in the elimination of the Luftwaffe by the time of the Normandy landings. I suspect there may have been a deliberate decision to use the bombers as bait.
@morewi
@morewi 2 жыл бұрын
Also enjoyed this video because my grandfather was a crewmen on a B-24. And participated in a number of raids. Especially out of Italy and mainly raided Hungarian and Romanian oil fields
@richardhazlett7070
@richardhazlett7070 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to me the low ratio of deaths to destroyed buildings ( apartments, hospitals, schools ). Does this reflect a very efficient air raid warning and shelter system?
@gamebook727
@gamebook727 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the Germans adhered to it with their typical punctiliousness. Shelters were deep and strong and present in the basement of every apartment block. They had things like airtight doors and ventilation systems to keep smoke out in the case of fire and to prevent suffocation in the event of a structural collapse.
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 2 жыл бұрын
Given up to twenty minutes of warning a population can go to the nearest shelter (in German cities, sometimes a vast concrete block within the town, sometimes a simple as a trench with concrete slabs laid over it) and be in a place where only a direct hit will kill anyone. The loss of their homes was major problem for the German civilians of course, which resulted in many people living at their workplaces (just as likely to be attacked), and they were usually not allowed to go to another city and talk about what had happened, sometimes being executed for doing this. In later years, the famous 'four-minute warning' of nuclear attack was believed to give too little time to shelter, and would actually result in more people being killed through being in the open or in a traffic jam.
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose their losses during the Battle of Britain and in the east didn’t help. The Luftwaffe had been losing valuable pilots and planes for years at that point.
@philippedefechereux7896
@philippedefechereux7896 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and thorough explanations of an obvious question I had never asked myself until I read your presentation headline! Now, at last, I understand.
@MrKnight19971
@MrKnight19971 2 жыл бұрын
There's actually a poem about the B-17 belly gunner. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner- Randall Jarrell 1945 From my mother's sleep I fell into the State, And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
@jroch41
@jroch41 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary of Luftwaffe's challenges, TIK. Naturally, OIL played a big role.
@moss8448
@moss8448 2 жыл бұрын
one reason all the turmoil today, lotta dogs fighting over the same bone
@sniperboom1202
@sniperboom1202 2 жыл бұрын
In my history classes at least they always pointed out how deadly certain jobs were in WW2 and being an American and a bomber crew lead to stupid high casualty rates. So high the U.S had to suspend operations several times simply because they were losing to many men already. While it might have kept Germany bomber free, all those fighters and such are needed on the eastern front much more.
@lucasmembrane4763
@lucasmembrane4763 Жыл бұрын
> stupid high casualty rates < Part of that was because the heavy daylight bombing of Germany in early 1944 did not prioritize efficient bombing of Germany. It prioritized drawing out the German fighters and destroying them, the key objective being total air superiority in support of the Normandy invasion, which was obtained. IDK, if anyone later figured out whether or not this was a good idea.
@JohnIainMcFarlanewaspfactor
@JohnIainMcFarlanewaspfactor 2 жыл бұрын
Well young man,Im just an enthusiast and amateur historian of ww1 and 2,mostly the aviation side for 40 odd years and when I spot one with your commitment to obviously scouring the literature,then untangling it to give an accurate analysis.Arare talent.I know what I know but would fall apartif asked to explain it.I particularly enjoyed this one thank you.More power to you brother,doin good.In fact I think Ill become a patron!
@JosephLupoli
@JosephLupoli 2 жыл бұрын
Great question and a really great answer, TIK! And a terrific video! I'm pretty well read on post industrial revolution war-time stuff. And I did know that the British had superior radar and night flying technology to the Germans. But I figured that this fact alone could not be the sole definitive answer to the question in the title. So, the moment you mentioned mentioned 'fuel shortage,' my little brain said, "BINGO! That makes all the sense in the world!" Yes, I was aware that the axis powers were undergoing oil embargoes, but didn't realize just how severe the fuel shortage was for Germany. And like you said, without enough fuel there would be far more German fighter planes than trained pilots to fly them. Thank you for that vital piece of info! You have a new subscriber!
@lucasmembrane4763
@lucasmembrane4763 Жыл бұрын
> the British had superior radar < I believe that it was R. V. Jones who wrote that the during the Battle of Britain the German radar was inferior to the British because it was so much better. The German (ground) radar could determine the absolute positions of all the planes in a battle; the radar operator would write down all the positions on a slip of paper that would be carried into the next room, given to someone who would read it and then figure out what to tell their flyers. The British (ground) radar could determine only the relative positions of the aircraft, so they had the radar operator talking direclty to the flyers while reading the radar screen, and that mode of communication was vastly superior, while the information about absolute location of the aircraft that the enemy obtained was just about worthless. Jones also discussed British analysis of German radar hardware brought back from a commando raid on the continent. The electronics were extremely precise, generating radar pulses astoundingly timed and exquisitely shaped. This stumped the British boffins who could not figure out what advantage the Germans were gaining from this level of accuracy and quality control. They finally gave up, figuring that it was simply the habit of the Germans to do things that way.
@darthimperious8661
@darthimperious8661 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating, it probably would’ve helped if they didn’t start a war with the USSR right when this bomber madness was starting
@claudermiller
@claudermiller 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler simply bit off more than he could chew.
@sirmiles1820
@sirmiles1820 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudermiller Yep and its a good thing. The only problem that we have now is US, China and Russia.
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 2 жыл бұрын
Basically, the new bomber stream tactic overwhelmed Germany's radar night defenses of the Kammhuber line. There were many other issues, but this one was decisive. Also, sorry to correct you, but Köln was not the 3rd biggest city, rather the 5th largest. Berlin, Hamburg and München were larger, and also Wien, in modern-day Austria.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
No worries about the correction - I was going off what one of the books said. And you're right about the Kammhuber line, although there's more to it than just that
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight have you watched Kelly's History video on the Cologne raid? It is very well made, easy to understand and has absolutely amazing graphics. Plus he is very neutral on this controversial topic.
@ivanmonahhov2314
@ivanmonahhov2314 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight You also forgot about July August 1941 raids by VVS , while they did not damage much aside from Hitlers pride. Which caused them to also use resources to prevent possible attacks from the east.
@kellyshistory306
@kellyshistory306 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkovacic2608 Shameless plug kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gKxdndaBqL-yZHU.html. But yeah the Kamhubber line wasn't designed to handle concentrated formations of bombers and was too rigid to allow massing of fighters against massed british night bombers. Whether by design or intent, the Kamhubber line became an attrition defense that sought to impose a consistent loss rate of 5% or greater on Bomber Command to force it it stop, but only really started achieving this at the end of its life. Once Window (Chaff) come around they had no choice but to allow freelance, but this didn't really solve the problem because the RAF adapted as well. It should be said the rigid Kamhubber line was actually the most consistently effective and efficient defense the Luftwaffe managed against the RAF bombers. Just before Chaff came into play, RAF losses were consistently hitting the unsustainable 5% losses or more each raid. When the more flexible wild boar and tame boar tactics came into play the Luftwaffe's performance was less consistent, though some nights they shot down a shocking number of bombers, other times they missed intercepting the raids entirely.
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of error and misinformation in this video. First of all, Germany was not behind in radar technology. They were roughly equal with British, even slightly ahead. But overall radar technology was in its infancy, especially considering airborne radars. Bombers flying at night would usually get trough, especially since they were flying in streams therefore it was difficult to amass all fighters at single point. Nevertheless, Germans did have certain spectacular success like for example air battle over Nuremberg in 1944. Daily raids were met with idea of concentrating as much as possible fighters to a single weak point (bomber group without escort for example) . Second Schweinfurt raid was one example where Luftwaffe managed to catch unescorted bombers and devastated them. However, in general, especially since Mustangs appeared in number in 1944, it was difficult for heavy German fighters (armed to destroy bombers) to avoid much nimbler escorts that had better performance at high altitude. Germans countered with using Bf-109 to fight escorts and Fw-190 to fight bombers, but at this point it devolved into battle of attrition they could not win. Overall, LW did what they could and there is no glaring flaw in their strategy, juts the situation was like that , and they had no realistic chance of stopping determined enemy with huge numerical superiority.
@kiowhatta1
@kiowhatta1 Жыл бұрын
A Luftwaffe assessment noted that the average rounds expended per aircraft shot down stood at 2,805 heavy and 5,354 light anti-aircraft rounds in the first twenty months of the war. During November and December 1943, an averaged 4,000 rounds of heavy ammunition and 6,500 rounds of light ammunition per aircraft. An average of 3,343 rounds of heavy and 4,940 rounds of light anti-aircraft were needed to shoot down an Allied bomber from 1939 to 1945.
@Frozenmenss1
@Frozenmenss1 2 жыл бұрын
"If they could work from home and watch the children" - What is this? the 2020s?
@troopersteve2992
@troopersteve2992 2 жыл бұрын
Hi TIK I am a big fan of your videos and love the amount of effort that you put into the detail and historical accuracy of the events. I am especially a big fan of your videos on Italy and how you go into them without bashing the fascists as most do and not sympathizing for them either. I would like to make a request considering that the 99th anniversary of the March on Rome is on the 27th if you could consider doing a video on it next year on the 100th anniversary? It is one of the biggest events of the post war era in between the wars and is also a major event in the world as being the believed birth of the fascist regime and is famous as a major historical event but is often overlooked, and when gone into detail facts on it are left out and not mentioned such as where Mussolini was during the march is said as a simple he was their or was not when their is much detail on it on why both are true and untrue but are always never answered from all the videos I have seen. It would be very much appreciated if you could shed some light on this topic in detail on what really was the March on Rome?,why it happened?, and what happened during it and in the immediate aftermath?
@user-gm5mh5ye2d
@user-gm5mh5ye2d 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always, TIK, but I think it would be good to also mention the change of fighter tactics introduced by gen. Doolittle in late 1943. Allowing USAAF fighters to fly far in front of bomber formations and engage German fighters, long before they could intercept the bombers, also heavily contributed to the demise of Luftwaffe in 1944.
@lamwen03
@lamwen03 2 жыл бұрын
Not just that. Deliberate raids on airfields, ground attacks on roads and railroads, forcing the Luftwaffe to come up and fight ( and die ) or see their supply lines cut.
@user-gm5mh5ye2d
@user-gm5mh5ye2d 2 жыл бұрын
@@lamwen03 This as well. Which all comes to the inefficient pilot training program that Luftwaffe had. They just couldn't produce enough good pilots to fill the losses, even tho they were able to produce enough planes. So in the end all they had were remnants of experienced pilots from the beginning of war and plenty of rookies that were basically a fodder for the Allies. It was just impossible to win the war like that.
@FreeloaderUK
@FreeloaderUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@lamwen03 that's correct, though it's worth remembering only an air force with a large numerical superiority could do operate in such a manner. By the time that superiority had been achieved German defeat was on the cards.
@FreeloaderUK
@FreeloaderUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm5mh5ye2d Germany was never going to produce enough pilots to match the USAAF, Soviet Airforce & the RAF. Plus Germany was hampered by fuel shortages which limited its pilot training.
@sergeontheloose
@sergeontheloose 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm5mh5ye2d Germany faced the same situation as the Soviet Union with its airforce which was almost completely destroyed in 1941, and recovered only by the end of 1942 with experienced fighters finally wrestling control of the skies from the Germans. Soviet fighter aces such as Pokryshkin started their journey from the summer of 1942 near Kuban and Stalingrad.
@lancelot1953
@lancelot1953 2 жыл бұрын
Hi TIK, great lecture as usual. These are a few pointers covering some of these issues from my War College Notes that we studied regarding conventional bombing (circa 1990); dates are approximate. - RAF/Bomber Command/Civil Defense took notes and made studies on the effectiveness and/or lack thereof of the German bombing campaign over England. Sir A. Harris realized that the fires that followed the mix of incendiary/blasting attacks were responsible for the most damage to British cities from the German bombing offensive. - The Air Ministry (War Cabinet) issued the Directive No. 5 (Area Bombing Directive) making cities (urban areas) fair targets - because: * Effective precision attacks were nearly impossible because of the technology of the day, altitude to bomb from, poor visibility (bad weather, smog, smoke screening, bombardier inexperience and high turnover, ...), less than 5% of bombs would fall within 100 yards of the target(s). * Day attacks were suicidal for bombing crews, * It was believed that bombing populations would terrorize populations and force their government to surrender/withdraw (not realistic under authoritarian leadership), * It was considered that the factory workers feeding the German armament industry were also part of the Nazi war machine, * Germany had shown no restriction nor remorse bombing Guernica, Barcelona, Rotterdam, Coventry, Hull, London... RE: 12 o'clock attack no bombers: As you mentioned the .50 cal. bomber machine guns had better range than the German fighter weapons. A rear quarter attack on a bomber is very difficult and dangerous. The fighter pilot has to lead/track his airplane guns dealing with several variables (altitude, gravity, lead angle, ...) while avoiding the bomber gunners' response. A straight-in (12 o'clock high) pass simplifies your firing solution to one variable (altitude) and limits the number of the bomber guns aiming at you. It allows the fighter to climb back up, setting up for another pass. Bomber gunners had more ammo than German fighters. But sad to say, statistically and theoretically, a B-17 could take ~20mm hits to be shot down (yes, I saw those statistics) but only one hit is needed to disable a pilot/copilot (yes, it is in my air-to-air gunnery manual that the pilot is at the top of the three most vulnerable parts of an aircraft above fuel tanks and engine). A fighter machine gun bursts "down the tube" will be deadly to the bomber crew-members. RE: German pilots' "Alertness" drug use: German pilots and other soldiers used a form of methamphetamine called Pervitin. Understand that it was not because they were "addicts" but it was a matter of survival. Years later, various preparations of amphetamines have been (and are still) used to maintain performance. Flying (and fighting) wars are extremely grueling and demanding on the body/mind/conscience... Many pilots were so worn out after combat only to crash on landing (especially the carrier pilots who had to make it back on a floating/moving runway). Hope it helps, keep on the good research. Ciao, L (Veteran, 118 combat missions)
@johnstirling6597
@johnstirling6597 2 жыл бұрын
Lubeck was targeted by Harris as the first city to bomb simply because it was a port city and relatively easy to find. Up to 1942 the RAFs bombing campaign was abysmally bad as most of the bombers couldn't get within 5 miles of their target, let alone actually hit it with bombs. Harris reasoned that the contrast of the land and sea would give the crews a fighting chance of finding the place.
@lucasmembrane4763
@lucasmembrane4763 Жыл бұрын
Harris would have lost a lot more of those bombers if Switzerland had spent more on air defense.
@haroldgodwinson832
@haroldgodwinson832 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to the question is simple enough. Germany is a big place. To effectively deal with a large bomber stream firstly requires that you find it and distinguish it from the various other diversionary raids going on at the same time. You must then determine it's intended target from it's circuitous, dog-leg course and then having done that, you must concentrate enough fighters from all the various disparate bases around Germany and the occupied territories to destroy it in detail while at the same time ensuring you don't scramble your interceptors too early and have them run out of fuel before finding their targets. Easy really.
@eze8970
@eze8970 2 жыл бұрын
And have enough pilots trained in night flying, & have suitable fighters, & have the right weather, & training programmes, & systems in place so you don't shoot down your own aircraft, & still enough other resources to respond to the conditions of the other fronts you are fighting on...
@oceanmadrosci3381
@oceanmadrosci3381 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Simple question: How many historical/economic books did you read. Also, do you read some biology,physics and chemistry?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean for this particular video, or do you mean all the books I've read on WW2? For this video, just the three I mentioned because I didn't see the need to read further once the answer became obvious. And here's the (incomplete) list of history books I've got docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/114GiK85MPs0v4GKm0izPj3DL2CrlJUdAantx5GQUKn8/edit?usp=sharing There's a few books that I haven't added to the list yet for various reasons. I noticed not too long ago that I hadn't added some of the Stalingrad books on there! I don't read biology, physics or chemistry books. I do read history, economics, politics and similar. I also don't read everything to do with history (I believe in specialization, and I should have a video coming soon explaining that and why). I'm also not big on fiction because I have the view that I may as well learn something practical, or learn something real. So don't read fiction often, but Orwell is my favourite fiction author because I don't think Orwell was really writing fiction, more of a warning.
@morningstar9233
@morningstar9233 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight I'm of the same view. I enjoy fiction, but i don't read much because there's so much real world history to learn about and i, like everyone else, have only a limited amount of time.
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight I have a similar view on fiction. It must be a classic or I won't even consider it. There's usually a lot to learn from reading classics, often aspects of history or psychology, but fiction just for fun is wasted time. If I want to spend time on fun, there are more enjoyable and even productive ways!
@rogerpattube
@rogerpattube 2 жыл бұрын
If thats a simple question, would hate to see a difficult one!
@moss8448
@moss8448 2 жыл бұрын
@@morningstar9233 same here non-fiction to me is the spice of reading had all kinds of friends ask about reading novels and such but always said 'give me the real deal'
@emersontomasini9495
@emersontomasini9495 26 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for put automatic translation subtitles for portuguese Brazil. Great video, congratulations. A hug from Brazil.
@gandalfgreyhame3425
@gandalfgreyhame3425 2 жыл бұрын
Then there was Operation Bodenplatte, where the Luftwaffe saved up their last reserve of planes and pilots to attack Allied airfields in Europe on Jan. 1, 1945, in support of their attacking forces in the Battle of the Bulge. A true Last Ride of the Valkyries.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 26 күн бұрын
And didn't tell their AA defences, who shot down a bunch of their own aircraft.
@artrandy
@artrandy 2 жыл бұрын
"The British had been lucky with Hamburg, because they attacked in good weather and blinded the German defences?" Blinding the enemies defences at night seems to be pretty significant to me, and not down to luck at all, and if the British were also lucky with good weather, then presumably the Luftwaffe were lucky with the indian summer over Britain in 1940, and you don't get to hear much about that............
@ivovanderavert1269
@ivovanderavert1269 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your in depth video as usual. Now I'm gonna complain about a pet peeve of mine: would it be possible to refer to my home land as "the Netherlands" instead of "Holland"? I know many people call it that but "Holland" is really more of a nickname than a serious name. I'm sure somebody with an attention to detail like yourself can appreciate.
@MarktheMole
@MarktheMole 2 жыл бұрын
We hear you, from England, or is that the UK. Americans think they are the same..
@rikk319
@rikk319 Жыл бұрын
@@MarktheMole Some Americans. The United States isn't a monolith.
@mentalretard2359
@mentalretard2359 Жыл бұрын
Little known fact of WW2: The Luftwaffe had suffered serious casualties in the French campaign. The Battle of Britain finished of the Luftwaffe, it never recovered. Secondly, by mid 1943 Germany had run out of fuel for almost everything. The war could have ended in 1943 autumn if it was not for the Allies insisting on total and unconditional surrender.
@eugenerowland1262
@eugenerowland1262 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your THOROUGH and in-depth analysis. I could clearly picture your story in my mind as you spoke. Keep up the good work !!! 😃👍
@billmmckelvie5188
@billmmckelvie5188 2 жыл бұрын
"The RAF out Germaned the Germans" I like it! Thank you for your research I am now getting a greater picture of WWII in its broadest context and a marvellous overview of the whole situation including the intricacies that led to the Allied Victory.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 жыл бұрын
The Wilde Sau missions were ready anky successful in the summer months, but come the autumn losses mounted, many of the losses were due to landing accidents but an equal number were due to pilots becoming lost and bailing out (they didn't have the electric navigation equipment that standard night fighters were fitted with, nor did they have someone trained in the art of celestial navigation). Those that did find an airbase to land at didn't always land back at their home baes which meant the day fighter unit had to spend time retrieving their aircraft. The unit was disbanded after less than a year.
@maximkretsch7134
@maximkretsch7134 2 жыл бұрын
Coventry, the centre of the British airplane engine production with some facilities only 200 yards away from the cathedral is certainly the least fitting example for an unjustified German bombing of a British city.
@trailingarm63
@trailingarm63 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video once again. Well done, I enjoyed it enormously.
@carbo73
@carbo73 2 жыл бұрын
"or Barcelona!" (yes, I know it was mostly the Italians who bombarded us, but the Legion Condor did their part, too)
@erikhalvorseth3950
@erikhalvorseth3950 2 жыл бұрын
And now it is Bayern München. Barca must learn how to defend in the air 🙃
@carbo73
@carbo73 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikhalvorseth3950 I was talking about murderous bombing of civilians. Not amusing.
@user-of1mn5vq3j
@user-of1mn5vq3j 2 жыл бұрын
Certified Hermann Meyer moment.
@aegontargaryen9322
@aegontargaryen9322 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant work . This is the best explanation of the downfall of the Luftwaffe’s fighters I’ve ever heard .10/10
@firebird9711
@firebird9711 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough pilots, training, planes, fuel, airfields, aluminum, ammunition, radar, food, allies, time, ..etc, etc. Basically everything.
@chonpincher
@chonpincher 28 күн бұрын
Of these, fuel was the most critical. Aluminium was in plentiful supply: not only was most of the German's own aircraft aluminium recycled, but a large additional source was supplied by the RAF and the USAAF.
@ki-youngjang4067
@ki-youngjang4067 2 жыл бұрын
“If planes drop bombs on Germany, you can call me MEYER." by Herman Meyer
@browngreen933
@browngreen933 2 жыл бұрын
Why did he choose the name Meyer?
@awitcher5303
@awitcher5303 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt it be Meyer Goring?
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@browngreen933 I have a feeling that its because Meyer was a common Jewish surname in Germany
@kaptainkaos1202
@kaptainkaos1202 2 жыл бұрын
@@browngreen933 Meyer is a common German surname. Basically he’s saying he’d be a nobody. Just learned this yesterday in another TIK video.
@AM-cm2kj
@AM-cm2kj 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaptainkaos1202 Which video?
@vitaliikhodotaiev9917
@vitaliikhodotaiev9917 2 жыл бұрын
First! Edit: Hello, Mr. TIK! I was literally rewatching your last video, that's amazing!
@purplefood1
@purplefood1 2 жыл бұрын
The most legitimate first I've ever seen.
@TimDutch
@TimDutch 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations :)
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@wambutu7679
@wambutu7679 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about that. Thanks for answering the question as well as you did.
@eniskaantasoren
@eniskaantasoren 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your briliant work TIK !
@skskMethodical
@skskMethodical 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of German strategists and tacticians could learn a lot by reading Mahan's "The Decisive Battle." The simple realization that they could use their war of movement and battlegroup tactics on the sea, or in the air, could have lead to a great deal of success for the respective arms. Strategic concentration of forces is something the Germans understood perfectly well on the ground, but seemed to think that the same concept couldn't apply to other forms of warfare. If the Kriegsmarine could concentrate all of its forces in the same battlegroup, rather than just having to intercept 2 battlecruisers, or a single battleship and heavy cruiser, a Royal Navy formation would be much harder pressed to take on both Bismarck and Tirpitz, both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, all 5 Admiral Hipper class heavy cruisers, all 3 Deutchland class Panzerschiffs, and every single light cruiser and destroyer the Kriegsmarine had to hand. Likewise, instead of several hundred bombers being attacked by 2 or 4 hostile fighters, they would have a hell of a fight ahead of them if they had to face several dozen or over 100 fighters. This change could have seriously disrupted the allied war effort, and while it wouldn't have won the axis the war, the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe could have contributed much more to the war effort, rather than gaining fame for dead-end missions like Operation Baseplate, or Bismarck's only sortie.
@Warspite1
@Warspite1 2 жыл бұрын
At least on the sea, a decisive battle was arguably exactly the opposite of what kind of war the Kriegsmarine wanted to fight. If all their capital ships are in a single location, it would allow the Royal Navy to concentrate their own forces in response; and the Royal Navy has a much larger number of ships it could bring to bear. The Kriegsmarine would, by forcing a decisive battle, present the British with an opportunity to neutralise the German surface force as a major player in the Atlantic and could have resulted in the freeing of British (and American, if such a battle occurs after their entry) warships to other theatres. Preserving their capital ships as a fleet in being tied up many more warships and resources than a battle ever could. The Kriegsmarine was much more focused on the destruction of merchant shipping rather than directly engaging the RN, and for good reason. By spreading out their warships they increased the liklihood of finding isolated merchants or convoys, and in so doing forced the RN to spread their ships in response; German capital ships could thus potentially have local superiority against British escorts.
@haroldgodwinson832
@haroldgodwinson832 2 жыл бұрын
Do you imagine the Germans were idiots? Do you seriously imagine they didn't have people constantly assessing whether or not their tactics and formations were appropriate to the task? And do you imagine the western allies were simply going to offer-up their bomber formations for the Germans to destroy en masse? If the Germans could have vectored all of their fighters onto a bomber stream they would have; God knows they tried often enough. Unfortunately for them, the Allies didn't provide them with the details of their proposed raids. Nor did they oblige them by not using 'window' or identifying which was or wasn't the main force and which were just 'spoof raids'. Nor did they fly directly to their chosen targets. So in short, no; you haven't belatedly stumbled on the answer to Germany's wartime woes.
@skskMethodical
@skskMethodical 2 жыл бұрын
@@haroldgodwinson832 I suppose you're right here, the Allies were determined to make the task of interception as difficult as possible for the Germans, not only to preserve their own bombers and aircrews, but to make sure they actually land a good hit on the German war industry. We also know that the Germans were not going to sit idly by and just take it, and would try every tactic it book to take out the Allied bombing raids if they needed to. What I'm saying is that have numerous small forces rather than a single large force for interception does seem uncharacteristic for the Germans, given the tactics they employed on the ground. Then again, air warfare is not the same as ground warfare, the same tactics aren't going to work for both types. But, now that I think about it, maybe it was less about tactics and more about intel? As you mentioned, the Allies were, for very obvious reasons, not very forthcoming with their bombing plans. If they Germans had concentrated their forces, but they didn't know where the enemy was, they would simply fly around with their thumbs up their butts as the Allies level another city, offering even less defense than the half dozen or so fighters that might actually be present to counter a raid otherwise. There's definitely the issue of German fighter numbers and the fuel shortage hampering their interception efforts, but even with that in mind, I don't think we can chalk all the Luftwaffe's failures up to that. Intelligence seems to be a pretty major issue, irreverent of the tactics they used, as even if you know how to counter the enemy's attack, you won't be able to do so if you can't find the enemy until it's too late. I guess the question would be, is there anything the Germans could have done on the intel side of things to achieve a better result for their interceptions?
@skskMethodical
@skskMethodical 2 жыл бұрын
@@Warspite1 I hadn't actually thought of the fleet in being concept as a viable option for the Kriegsmarine before, since it didn't work too well for them historically. I'm not sure that sitting in port and forcing the enemy to keep an eye on your ships with their own is a particularly good use of capital ships, but if it means less ships on convoy duty for the U-Boats to deal with, then at least the value of doing so isn't absolutely nothing. As you said, the main problem for a large surface unit would be the British simply countering said unit with an even large unit of their own, which, again didn't work very well for the Germans historically. Since the Allies had better intelligence gathering than the Germans, and the Axis as a whole, it's unlikely that the Kriegsmarine would be able to assemble such a force without the British noticing and moving to counter it. That leaves using smaller units as one of the only other options I can see, and while that worked to some extent, the British still won the war at sea, with all surface raiders either sunk or stuck in port, unable to leave without being sunk. I'm starting to wonder if there was anything, besides producing an unrealistic amount of U-Boats and praying that they manage to send the every single convoy heading to Britain and Europe, that the Kriegsmarine could have done better. It's hard to look at a force that lost the war and accept that they did everything the best they could without questioning such a statement. Surely, if they did their best they wouldn't have lost then, or it would have at least been a closer fight? As it stands, outside of the U-Boat campaign, Scharnhorst's achievements, and the hilfskreuzer's shenanigan's, the Kriegsmarine doesn't seem to have accomplished much, at least in comparison to the size of the force, and the amount of resources put into it.
@haroldgodwinson832
@haroldgodwinson832 2 жыл бұрын
@@skskMethodical The Germans tried all sorts of stuff to concentrate their available aircraft on the attacking force; including the use of radio beacon rally points etc but at the end of the day it often came down to accurately 'guessing' on which town or city the blow would fall. Sometimes they got it wrong and the intended interceptions largely failed. On other occasions, when it all came together, such as during the March '44 Nuremberg Raid, the RAF lost over 100 bombers.
@velikiradojica
@velikiradojica 2 жыл бұрын
You would be amazed how much fuel it takes to running a static AA gun, considering it took something like 10.000 88mm shells to destroy a single aircraft.
@od1452
@od1452 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah .. when you break down total cost materials, manufacturing, transportation.. I'm sure it's pretty inefficient.
@jkotekvolnycz
@jkotekvolnycz 2 жыл бұрын
IMHO still not much fuel (oil). Shells are delivered by train so its coal you need...
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention that. Every flak battery had their own gasoline generator to power the arc-lamp searchlights and often fire control computers. Also, were any Flak-88s fitted with motorized traverse and elevation? Eventually they had to power radar stations, though I don't know how widely deployed radar was in Germany by the end of the war. It still probably used less fuel than a fighter, and certainly used lower octane, lower quality fuel, but when you consider the huge numbers of flak batteries, and their low efficacy of 10,000 shells per downed plane, and the economic analysis becomes murky.
@limbardo9169
@limbardo9169 2 жыл бұрын
The effectiveness of Flak can not be measured solely by the number of enemy planes destroyed or the number of shells required per shot down plane. If a Flak barrage can prevent enemy bombers from accurately hitting or even reaching their target, then surely that alone makes the Flak valuable. I suggest you find out about the bombings of Helsinki in February 1944, where the city was spared from much devastation largely due to the well planned and executed AAA defenses - and admittedly due to the inexperience of the Soviet ADD as well.
@alexmuenster2102
@alexmuenster2102 2 жыл бұрын
Hope this isn't too "off-topic," but I recall having read that some British study during the war determined that attempting to shoot down the V-1 "buzz bombs" using Anti-aircraft guns would result in the death of more British civilians (due to spent shells dropping on the populace) than doing absolutely nothing against the V-1's.
@officeofpeaceinformation5094
@officeofpeaceinformation5094 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting note, Thomas Mann grew up in Lübeck, so the bombing of the city wasn’t without significance to him.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 11 ай бұрын
His early novel The Buddenbrooks is a fictionalised history of 19th century Lubeck from the pov of the titular family.
@casparcoaster1936
@casparcoaster1936 2 жыл бұрын
Truly rich and satisfying peice of work there, really enjoyed many thanks!!!
@SpaceMonkeyBoi
@SpaceMonkeyBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Hitler just pass art school?
@unstoppabletigertalukan6710
@unstoppabletigertalukan6710 2 жыл бұрын
His paintings are pretty good
@AndreLuis-gw5ox
@AndreLuis-gw5ox 2 жыл бұрын
He was actually recommended for Architecture School if I remember correctly, which makes sense: all his work I ever saw were buildings and some landscapes.
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 2 жыл бұрын
Because he was absolute shit at drawing people, and you need to be at least okay at that to enter and do well in art school.
@011258stooie
@011258stooie 2 жыл бұрын
Being Goering's "right hand man", it's strange the allies didn't string up Milch in 46..
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
I think they found him useful as a source of information. See also, Xaver Dorsch who made himself useful to The Americans writing the history of The Todt Organisation, and so escaped prosecution
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
G'day, I thought that Milch shot himself in 1943, as a resut of his failure to bring the He-177 Greif to operational status, without them catching fire in flight from engine overheating (?). That made prosecuting him in 1946 rather difficult. Just(ifiably ?) sayin'. Such is life. Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@Section20Ul
@Section20Ul 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarblesOnALot Erhard Milch died in 1972 (Jan 25th to be precise) he was to be a part of the prosecution at Nuremberg but was eventually tried for war crimes (after refusing to testify)
@011258stooie
@011258stooie 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarblesOnALot yeah, you do warble on a bit. The man in the thumbnail, who tik mentioned, is the guy who shot himself.
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Section20Ul G'day, Thanks for the correction. I don't pretend to be any kind of an expert on what happened to which Nazi. Udet & his replacement both shot themselves (was it Jeschoneck ?) and I thunked it was Milch. Nowhere is it written that I have to be 100% correct in everything, first time & every time... Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@juniorballs6025
@juniorballs6025 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍 Heard of you from the Lotus Eaters, glad I did.
@HouseholdDog
@HouseholdDog Жыл бұрын
Getting 1000 interceptors up in the air from only a few airfields would be a nightmare. As well as a huge target.
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 2 жыл бұрын
The concentration of forces is an advantage of the party on the offensive. The Axis had large bomber attacks coming from both North Africa and Britain attacking huge swathes of territory occupied by the Axis. If they concentrate their forces to stop bombers from flying from England to Berlin, if the bomber attacks go elsewhere all of your fighters are out of position.
@od8401
@od8401 2 жыл бұрын
This. While most of the Luftwaffe was occupied fighting the Soviets/British/USA, my grandfather and other allied bombers were able to attack the Romanian oil fields. Concentrating in one area or against one enemy will disrupt you everywhere else
@rankedpsiguy1
@rankedpsiguy1 2 жыл бұрын
I continue my amazement at how much Germany accomplished with so few resources. To me this illustrates the folly of a nation being weak in the face of an aggressor nation. My analysis: The weakness of France was primarily leadership. The Netherlands, Belgium, et. al. were only able to stand if France did so as well. Britain was strong, but not capable of remaining on the continent if France fell. So, the dominoes toppled over with apparent ease. Hitler appeared a military genius, and the Wehrmacht fell in line. Only the eventual stand of the USSR - and that was a near thing at a couple of points - finally put the lie to German "invincibility". The air battle of Germany is only one aspect of this overall problem, but it points out just how severe was that problem. Have a rest Tik. We will patiently await future postings. THE BEST is worth patience!
@hermitoldguy6312
@hermitoldguy6312 2 жыл бұрын
1938 was 20 years after 1918. France lost a generation of young men in WWI meaning they had a shortage of young men for WWII.
@eze8970
@eze8970 2 жыл бұрын
Germany did well at the start of WW2 due to;- 1) Getting a head start in the rearmament/training plans of the European powers in quantity & quality. 2) Being able to get training in how to move large formations of a modern type from the Invasions of the Rhineland, Sudetenland, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland etc, other Western Powers didn't have this, & still thought in WW1 terms of mobility/tactics. German experience in this was vital. 3) Fighting opponents separately. Even in 1940, Belgium & the Netherlands wouldn't let French/British units on their soil initially, in case it 'provoked' a German attack, this let the Germans over run the Netherlands easily, & capture lots of Belgium for little loss. 4) The Germans played 3 deception masterstrokes the Allies never picked up on;- a) Making the French believe a big attack on the Maginot line was coming, so they put massive reserves there, whilst thinly holding this line themselves. b) Making the Allies believe the push through Netherlands/Belgium was the other big attack. c) Hiding their main attack in the Ardennes, & not letting the Belgians/French find out about it. The Germans shouldn't really have got as far as they did, but they made their own 'luck', aided by bad High Commands & Political actions on the Allied side, each playing into German hands. This is how they managed what they did. I agree with all your other comments. The German 'defeat' in the Battle of Britain & Operation Sealion wasn't seen as one, due to everything else they had done, & they still looked like winning, but in reality, the clock was ticking for them.
@pax6833
@pax6833 2 жыл бұрын
The failure of France was due to an entrenched military thinking using lessons from WWI which gave them a flawed approach to WWII. It's not that France was weak, they were simply less prepared than Germany, which had much more warmaking experience in 1940.
@eze8970
@eze8970 2 жыл бұрын
@@hermitoldguy6312 France was actually still suffering from the Napoleonic loss of men before WW1, then as you say, they had WW1 etc. What they French did have, they positioned badly (as it turned out).
@zacharydoser8536
@zacharydoser8536 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I know you stated your strengths lie in ground combat on the Eastern Front, but you knocked it out of the park in this video. I'm a new subscriber and like your videos.
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
As a native of Lübeck, I want to applaud the decent approximation of the pronunciation of Lübeck.
@MarktheMole
@MarktheMole 2 жыл бұрын
LOOO-beck ??
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarktheMole Ü is a sound that just doesn't exist in English, though it's in French and Turkish. But he's getting pretty close. (Many places names in Germany also use archaic spellings that don't match modern Standard German rules, and -eck actually stands for a long e, not for a short e as it usually does. But even most Germans get that wrong because there's no way to tell that from the spelling.)
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
It's the city I always start in when playing Patrician 3 👍 (don't get time to play often these days though, sadly)
@kingpetra6886
@kingpetra6886 2 жыл бұрын
They German did send up everything the had on these large raids. The allies figured out how to extend the range of their fighter escorts. They also discovered the Germans would through throw every thing they had if the raid was on Berlin. In the conduct of these large raids the German Air Force was more or less shot out of the sky in the Western front. The allied fighters themselves were instructed during these raids not to go over the bombing target areas where there was lots of FLAK. In one of these raids 25% of all German fighter were shot down.
@Spiz103
@Spiz103 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another edition of "Germany really doesn't have the resources to fight three of the world's greatest powers at once"
@ivanmihajlovic8175
@ivanmihajlovic8175 2 жыл бұрын
I have recognized your voice in one of the documentaries (not from your channel), I have watched a couple of weeks ago. Well done! You have managed to lover down your bOts (but), and I had a lot of fOn listening to you and watching the documentary!!!
@matthewelberson4140
@matthewelberson4140 2 жыл бұрын
Always detailed and thorough. Thumbs up for these videos TIK!
@Hardman._
@Hardman._ 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone looking forward to the HOI4 "No step back" DLC?
@markrunnalls7215
@markrunnalls7215 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tik ,another excellent explanation.
@helmuthhubener1115
@helmuthhubener1115 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. Thank you!
@johnlenin830
@johnlenin830 2 жыл бұрын
During the WW2, Soviet pilots used the ram as a last resort to attack the air enemy in case of jamming of weapons or premature use of ammunition, only on the first day of the war the ram was made by 15 pilots. In total, 561 Soviet fighter pilots, 19 attack pilots and 18 bomber pilots who made air rams are known. Many of them performed the ram repeatedly: 33 people - twice, Alexei Khlobystov - three times and Boris Kovzan - four times. On 237 occasions, Soviet warriors committed a fiery ram when a pilot could parachute out of a downed burning plane, but instead crashed into clusters of German troops of equipment, sacrificing his life to stop the enemy
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