What happened?

@@wgdetective7034 Rev. Cekada unfortunately passed away a while ago.

@@Agrippa31BC Oh I'm so sad to hear that as I have just come across his work here on YT.

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You can't have your cake and eat it too...the FSSPX/SSP cling on to an ecclesiastical status/money pipeline rather than the true faith which simply doesn't hold to accept ANY of these Antipopes as true popes. So in my opinion and I was "stuck" with the FSSPX & SSP for a while too, they will need to prove firstly to themselves if they are true to the Catholic magisterium (thus get rid of the watered down 1962 missale) and church or just the money pipeline of "acceptance on the lowest level" by the heretic antipope currently running the Novus Ordo counter church!

Where in florida do you attend ?

A priest ahead of his Time.

I think R&R leads naturally leads from NO to sedevacantism. I think those that stay in R&R are dishonest. I don’t see how they can’t make the next logical step. I think a lot of it has to do with $, followers and pride, but I could be wrong. I just know that’s how my path went. Thank God I found holy priests in driving distance.

@@DeAnneRidge True, I was in the R&R myself before I became a Sedevacantist, and most Sedevacantists I know were R&R at some point too.

There is no greater choice in life with respect to the love of God to commit oneself to God‘s work. The world needs you, God needs you to do His will. Don’t worry or be concerned that you are missing something in life by giving your self to God. On the contrary, those of us who did not make the choice of Priesthood are the ones who are missing out. You are needed more than ever to do the ACTUAL work of Christ. Don’t delay listen to him, his love will guide you. His flock needs tending.

@@chucklangworthy4118 I’ve joined the seminary a year ago. Pray for my vocation.

Our Lady of La Salette for told these events. You are right where you are supposed to be!!!

In the same boat. Whole family are traditionalists but still recognize Francis. And there's me. Sedevacantist. 😭

+Ed berGOGlio is a HERETIC

Yes, Vatican II adherents need to give up being part of a group and join a bunch of schismatics who have invented their own church.

@@tomthx5804 Vatican ii have already joined a bunch of schismatics that created their own church, so...

@@tomthx5804 "Sedevacantists" are not schismatic, that is another silly myth/lie being spread. "Sedevacantists" are the true Catholic Church.

@@ecopley9013 how do I convert from Baptist to... Sedevancantist?

@Janette Davis That's just not true. Have you never heard of any of the other Catholic bishops who kept the true faith like Bishop Guerard Des Laurier and Bishops Carmona and Zamora, Bishop Robert McKenna, etc? I know that the SSPX will not tell anyone about them. They keep lying and saying that Abp Lefebvre was the "only traditional bishop". What nonsense - and more reason to beware of them.

Look into it but vacate the Novus Ordo Sheeples who are appeasing the gay way see the McCarrick cover-up the idol Pachamama worship the comment, “God wills many religions.” These are heretics that are ecotheology preachers but not Catholics!

The mass isn’t different , the liturgy is what was changed and the Church has the authority to make changes to the liturgy

Simple. The Novus Ordo is not a Catholic Mass, according to true popes such as St Pius V and Plus XII. This website will satisfy all your questions. Modernist heretics created the foundation of the man made new Church from inside. So the word Catholic has been stolen by a new and false church that contradicts the doctrine of the True Church, making mass and sacraments invalid. At the time nobody could imagine such a thing could happen. But the fruits of the new "Catholicism" became obvious. Unbelieving pervert "priests." Loss of Faith among the laity. God is waiting for Catholics to use the brains He gave them, and to study the never changing Magisterium that was non-contradictory until the death of Plus XII, the last known Catholic Pope. Because of the confusion among "goog" people, we each have to do our homework now, since authentic catechesis ended by 1970. So unless you were educated in what Catholicism is before then, you will have to teach yourself. Read pre-1958 encyclical and catechism and rely on websites like this one. Remember it is infallible teaching that a Catholic must suppress their intellect and accept all a pope teaches. If he teaches against the 1958 Church, he is not guided by the Holy Spirit, has ipso facto excommunicated himself, and is to be ignored as an antipope by the faithful. You are not obligated to attend the "mass" of the heretical Novus Ordo sect he leads. We living now have been chosen by God to resist the false church and its false popes. It is His plan to purify and refine His True Church as gold in a fire. Unlike our fortunate ancestors, we cannot be assured we are Catholics just by obedience to the man in Rome claiming to be pope. The World loves Francis, but the World has never loved the True Church of 1958 to the start

@@TheCleanTech not changes in substance and intention. Plus IX said he had no authority to add St Joseph's name to the Canon or to change a single word of the Canon of Mass. So how can Pope Montini impose an entirely new Mass? He in fact had no authority to do so, thus the Novus Ordo is invalid, the service of the Vatican II heretical sect, to which you ignorantly belong. Study the pre 1958 Magisterium and you will see.

@@charlesburns3946 your mistaken, the Pope does have the authority over the cannon. One simple fact. “The mystery of Faith”. That was an addition, as well as the Saints that were named prior to St Joseph , I would be interested to see the Pius 12 quote that you referenced? And the novus order is not a new mass , it is a new form of the mass , Your ideas are not based on your study of the magisterium, they are based on sedevacantist misconceptions , half truths, and exaggerations that you probably read on some website

So was JP11 he was just as bad. The Novus Ordo is a Counterfeit and the Abomination of Desolation.

My husband & I are strongly considering sedevacantism (we’re basically already there). Anyway, we live in Houston and there are no sede priests here, but we learned that one in Austin (and even in other states) would be happily to travel and visit for Mass, etc. I can probably put you in touch with someone who can help you.

@@SamanthaGluck The mission is on hold because of the spike protein jab border restrictions so I will pray you get this non una cum valid Mass and we will try to move to the US too; we also don't want Sede Priests to even consider receiving the product to cross the border so best of luck and hopefully things will open up a bit. Thank you for thinking of us. At least we have the SSPX here.

Lefebvre saved the Church He was the true Pope back then. Where does Scripture say the Pope must reside in Rome. ? Simple really The Pope is the One that holds the Jewish Passover Prayers said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed.

This makes perfect sense to me. Although making the step will be hard because of my family. Pleasing Our Lord is my first priority. Any priests near Baton Rouge, LA?

+sarah wood Thank you for your comments. Abp. Lefebvre did indeed say that, and on more than one occasion. John Daly did a compilation of the archbishop's pro-sede quotes, and you can find it here: www.fathercekada.com/2012/09/04/pro-sedevacantism-quotes-from-abp-lefebvre/ He made some particularly strong pro-sede statements in the period before the 1988 consecrations but backpedaled when he got blowback in France, alas.

+Rev. Anthony Cekada Thank you, Father, I just found this.

+Rev. Anthony Cekada This is a lot to read but I certainly will do so carefully. It is sad the archbishop backpedaled but it is such a disturbing and confusing situation I would hope he did the best he could with said situation. I am grateful for what he did - all of you. I am ashamed to say even though I was raised a Catholic I left the Church in the sixties and only returned in 1980. I had no idea what was really going on. I can't help but wonder what the archbishop would have to say about Bergoglio Thanks again..

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@Carthago Delenda Est Jealousy... the tribute mediocrity pays to genius.

@Rincon Ovalle Luis Fernando very true. Even Williamson himself admitted in private that he was unable to refute Father Cekada who wrote a response to his mentevacantist error. Bishop Williamson had tried to argue that the post V2 Pope's weren't culpable because they were unable to understand that what they were doing was heretical...

@@jimmyhun91 if he admired it in privet how do you know about it ?

@@TheCleanTech it was from Stephen Heiner, the creator of Tru Restoration" who is in close correspondence with the Bishop ever since his SSPX days.

@@jimmyhun91 thanks , Fr Cekada may have been right on Williamson being in error on that specific point, (I don’t even know what “metavacanrism is). but that doesn’t mean Fr Cekada is without error on other points pertaining to sedevacantism , etc..

@@TheCleanTech you should read the article in that case. It's not about being in error on a small single point. The whole of Bishop Williamson's central premise, namely that the post Vatican II claimaints can't he true heretics because their minds have been poisoned by modernism (what Fr Cekada coins mentevacantism) is absurd and Father Cekada explains this rather carefully

Thank you. It's not political spectrum. Bishop Fulton Sheen feared a politization of theology and the Church.

The Vatican II sect is not modernism. You appear not to know what modernism is. Please, with all the muster of perpetuity, look up what you are talking about before you blabber on line about something.

Tom thx wow really!?

Tom thx Try attending a Traditional Latin Mass and read all older teachings.

Tom thx you are the one that needs to do some research and FYI VATICAN 2 is extremely modern

I hope you know father Cekada passed away!

Carthago Delenda Est other than indifference, co-habitation, civil marriage, sodomy, and sacrilege.

God does remain in the Church, but Francis is not part of the Church

@Carthago Delenda Est How utterly blind can you be.

As a sedevacantist Catholic, I recommend you view the video by the sedevacantist Catholic Dimond Brothers, Vaticancatholic. Com, exposing the heresies of SSPX.

GloryTo TheHolyTrinity! The Dimond brothers are so very wrong, even coming from a sedevacantist view. If you want to lend any credence to sedevacantism, don’t use those guys.

John 10 :27-30 " My sheep listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me....". Jesus Christ is Shepherd and is Leader for those who have ears to hear and follow God's holy will. There is nothing Catholic nor holy in the Vatican 2 sect.

Revelation 18

+Jim Condit Jr. I wonder why Cardinal Siri would say he was bound by the secret? Could a true Pope really be bound by the Devil's henchmen? I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was elected, that he was forced to resign, and that consequently, the resignation was null and void. But I puzzle over the 'bound by the secret' part.

I have contemplated that question many times myself. It dawned on me not so long ago that the Cardinal never says by what secret he is bound. Can we perhaps imagine that after accepting the Papacy and being bullied into refusing to take the chair, one of the conspirators requested reconciliation and then divulged the entire plan under the seal of the confessional? In that case, his lips are indeed tied by the secret. Interesting twist ay? Not the secret of the conclave but the secret of the confessional.

How does it feel to be a schismatic?

I thought he was offered to be made a Bishop by a few Thuc line Bishops (Zamora) years ago, but turned it down.

The Dogma that all heretics and apostates are outside - and consequently have absolutely no Power or Office whatsoever in - the Church is the very basis of "Sedevacantism". "Sedevacantism" is a Dogmatic Fact. "Vatican 2" sect's adherents and heresiarchs (especially the Antipopes) alike, all ipso facto automatically excommunicated from Christianity for schism, heresy, and apostasy, as non-Christians, have absolutely no Office or Power in the Church. The "seminaries" are propagandization centers. To accept "Vatican 2" or Novus Inordinatio or any of the Antipopes or heresiarchs behind it is to attack God's Promises (Matthew 16:18; 28:20). They constantly praise other Antichristians. Vatican has the apostate Martin Luther's ugly fat face on their "official" stamp.

Unlike Bergoglio and Vatican II, With it's Bastard Child ' Novus Ordo Mass ', Our Faith in Jesus The Christ is Stronger Than EVER !!!!! Truth Be WELL KNOWN, The Real Catholic Church of Jesus The Christ, Is No Longer In Rome !!! Rome EXCOMMUNICATED Itself, Formerly With VATICAN II, How Dumb Do You Think Us ? Our Blessed Immaculate Mother and Queen Mary Told Us .... ' La Sallet and Fatima ', Got it Bergoglio ?

I actually have a book published called Americans are Asleep. It is philosophical and discusses sovereignty in a political light. In it I submit to the only Sovereign the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you for asking. I forgot I even made this comment, but the book needs to be edited to include Sede Vacantism and it's lonely road.

One cannot be a true Catholic and be proud of America. America is enemy of Christ and Catholic faith, so rather than bless, God curses America.

Neither are taken seriously cuz everyone knows they won't do shit.

Neither are taken seriously cuz everyone knows they won't do shit.

+Julius Gorzkowski: One point I originally intended to add to the video (but somehow got lost in the process) might be of interest to you. Sedevacantists share a lot more common theological ground with "conservatives" than they do with R&R, because both sedes and conservatives usually adhere to the traditional ecclesiology when it comes to understanding the Catholic's obligations to submit to the Roman pontiff (when there is one).

Rev. Anthony Cekada .... In your comments you refer to R&R; what do these initials stand for?

Recognize and Resist...

@@christinamiller1323 It means "Recoginze & Resist". That is: Recognizing the "popes" in Rome as true successors of Peter, but at the same time resisting their teachings and their rule over the Church.

+SuperScarrow CMRI has a missionary priest in Australia, and you can contact him through their site, cmri.org

+Rev. Anthony Cekada Thanks for that Father

I am in America also a sedev. How do I received the sacraments?

+Chopin euler Fatima, even though it received approval from the Church, is a private revelation, so its content is not, properly speaking, a datum that can be used in a theological argument.

My question too

Me too, still studying Catholicism

@@TheRajapala let me gueas. Are you Indonesian?

@@TheRajapala Fr Cekada is right and the others are wrong, and often dishonest as well or misled.

@@isiwaktu2525 Fr Cekada has the truth.

With all my respect I have it very clear, the FSSP is the one that is with the Vatican II; And the FSSPX isnt’ heretic, That is why the Vatican CAN NOT stand them.

they're crazy stay away

@@garyolsen3409 why are they "crazy"? They give evidence unto everything they say!

The magic videos are silly. Clear natural illusions are used as proof of supernatural

Recognize and Resist. Recognize x as Pope but Resist him since he Is a heretic.

It makes no sense at all though

You have to accept Pope Pius as the last valid Pope, but all the Vatican II "popes" were not popes but antipopes. I have some doubts about the man above, so I recommend to you: Vaticancatholic. Com That website I can verify is the truth.

+Steven Osterhaus No it did not, John XXIII was a heretic since the 1920's and was also a Freemason, he was the one that called the Masonic council V2 that brought the end times counterfeit "Catholic" sect. A one world religion. Pope Pius XII was the last Pope Catholics had. Yves Marsaudon, 33rd degree Scottish Rite Freemason said: "The sense of universalism that is rampant in Rome these days is very close to our purpose for existence... with all our hearts we support the revolution of John XXIII." You can find all his heresies here: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/anti-pope-john-xxiii/#.VocKbhUrLIU scroll down once you're on the page

John XXIII was a public heretic. According to canon 188 of the CIC 1917 (church law at that time) he lost his office by doing the deed ("Any office becomes vacant upon the fact and without any declaration by tacit resignation recognized by the law itself if a cleric: 4) publicly defects from the catholic faith." canon 2314 makes it even more clear: "All apostates from the Christian faith and each and every heretic or schismatic: 1) incurs by that fact excommunication 2) unless they respect warnings they are deprived of benefice, dignity, pension, office, or other duty that they have in the Church, they are declared infamous, and [if] clerics, with the warning being repeated, [they] are deposed; 3) if they give their names to non-Catholic sects or publicly adhere [to them], they are by that fact infamous, and with due regard for the prescription of Canon 188n. 4, clerics, the previous warnings have been useless, are degraded." So you see. As John XXIII has publicly spoken heresy and never denounced it, he is outside the church by the fact itself and never received the papcy validly!

The one thing that confuses me about sedevacantism is, if they consider the current priesthood invalidly ordained, then how do we gain access to God's divine mercy? Our sins can only be forgiven through a valid priest in the sacrament of confession, and if there's no validly ordained priests to be found anywhere, then we are doomed forever.

@@grupoaranzamusic that's a huge issue however their answer would be that anyone who was ordained through the old rite would be validly so long as bishop was consecrated thru same. So SSPX, and sedes(excepting those stemming from the Thuc line as their orders appear to be in doubt)and even some still in the Novus Ordo still have valid orders. So the Church can carry on it's business there, by having us seek out non Novus Ordo clergy to ensure validity of Sacraments. I was talking to someone else about the issue I was wondering about how we get out of the mess, which goes into your concern too, but with regards to if no pope then no Cardinals and no new pope. He said that we don't need an answer for everything. man was sinful and deserving of Hell owing an eternal debt to God. There was no answer on how to pay that debt. Then came Christ. So we don't know what God has in store for us. I like watching What Catholics Believe with Father Jenkins on KZfaq because he is very balanced and reasoned on this. He says that in his opinion, based on the evidence Francis is an obvious heretic, never had the faith and does not now therefore cannot he the pope. However, this is simply an opinion and he could be wrong. It is not necessary for salvation we get this question right. It may make it easier so we aren't following a false pope though. Personally, I no longer feel Francis is the pope. One must be Catholic to he the pope and Francis is not Catholic.

There is the Cassciacum thesis as a potential solution. In short, it proposes that the V2 Popes hold the office materially, but do not formally possess the authority of the papacy because of heresy. They are basically "pope-elect" until they renounce their errors and heresies and reject V2. This means their pronouncements and appointments made as "pope-elect" are invalid because they do not possess petrine authority. It is because of this distinction that there leaves open the possibility of their being a valid Pope in the future. For example, if Ratzinger came out and renounced all of his heresies and rescinded Vatican II, he would formally become the Pope. If you look at what has come out of the Vatican and these "Popes" since V2, it becomes apparent that this may be the case.

Sorry -- it's a problem with the older ones. I think we got it solved with the latest.

no he doesnt. it becomes clear if you atch hius other videos.

Well I know for sure that Gregory Hesse is quite different to Rev Anthony Cekada. Hesse has no respect for papal authority and his words on Pope SAINT Pius V are utterly shameful. Beware of him and stay with Rev Cekada instead.

@@ecopley9013 ; I know not every word spoken by Fr. Gregory Hesse. I do know, he praised St. Pius V. regularly, don't be ridiculous.

@@ecopley9013 ; Fr.Paul Kramer stated on Coast To Coast, "Call me Sedevacantist (now)". I heard what I heard, and not taken out of context in any sense, it was the context. If I heard wrongly, please let me know.

@@Johnnycdrums Thanks Johnny. You will find the comments I mentioned about fr Kramer in his video on Cum Ex. : ( Make sure you read Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio yourself and see that it is the Church's teaching which shows that a heretic can never be a valid pope.) You probably know that Fr Kramer was ordained in St Peter's by Modernists.

@@ecopley9013 ; I'll look it over. Not crazy about this infighting amongst traditionalists. Although a "revert", I'm old enough to remember the Church. Noticed a big change in about 67' when I was twelve.

You might want to view videos 2 & 3 in the series based on chapters of Work of Human Hands. They will explain why priests like me don't use the 62 Missal.

Rev. Anthony Cekada I now understand why many Sedevacantists do not use the 62 Missal. However, the question of "what Missal is the correct one to use?" is left unanswered. Is it the 1958 edition? Is it Lefebvre's 1952 edition? Is it Lasance's 1945 edition? Is it Lasance's 1937 edition? How far back should we go?

LoL "if you dare". "dun dun duuuuuuuuun" You can't even follow proper procedure. Everybody knows in times of serious matters only a "triple dog dare" is appropriate.

TheRindy84 Since Sedevacantists only use pre-1962 Roman Missals, there's the big question of "WHAT" pre-1962 Roman Missal to use? Every pre-1962 Roman Missal has different liturgical calendars. If Sedevacantists can't agree on which one to use, then everyone of them are following a different liturgical calendar, pre-1960.That isn't uniformity, all it is is using whatever Missal you feel like using so long as it's pre-1962 (i.e. a Protestant way of thinking). Say what you will about the Novus Ordo Church and the SSPX, at least they all use the same Missal with the same Liturgical Calendars.

You do understand that the "uniformity" that you speak of is supposed to be the faith right? I couldn't actually tell you what year of missal I have but I can say that I've never had a problem following along (regardless of if I went to CMRI, SSPX or independents) unless, of course, I'd forgotten to move the marker and didn't catch or remember what sunday it was but anyway that's beside the point. The point is I was assisting in the real Sacrifice of the mass, the uniformity is in being one with the priest as the mass is said. Holding the same faith. With the Novus Ordo, you're trading uniformity of certainty (to say the least) and faith. I have 2 Novus Ordo Catholic friends, brothers that went to the same church who both still go to church and have differing ideas on both morality and even whether the Eucharist is the true body and blood of Christ but you seem to be telling me that "hey, at least they have the same calendar"? Are you kidding me? The novus ordo has a 50/50 chance (and I'm probably being generous) of actually practicing idolatry. If the priest hasn't been validly consecrated then his mass and the sacrament is also invalid. Hence you might as well worship the protestant crackers and grape juice as your God. I don't lump the SSPX with the novus ordo since I don't agree that they've completely given in and gone along with the Novus Ordo but I do find it odd that as much as they practice and act like there is no pope (Resist) they seem to be incredibly intolerant to an opposing view one that does not directly affect any pertinent matter of faith. If you have to resist and disobey the person believed to be the current pope and you don't trust him to lead you as the spiritual head and Christ's appointed vicar, who the *bleep* cares if he's sitting in the chair or not? He's useless to you, he can't help you, he doesn't give a crap. I've heard the bad dad argument and I get where they're coming from but the analogy doesn't work at all. Taking an occupation is not the same as a biological fact. If you help create or birth a child you are (biologically) that child's parent and nothing you do will ever negate that fact. However, you can choose to be mum or dad (in action) to that child or you can abandon it and let someone else raise it. In that case you have chosen not to raise or even look after that child. Being pope and taking on the responsibility of tending Christ's flock is strictly a choice and it is by your actions whether you are or not. Even in the case of a validly ordained pope who decided to fly to Jamaica and forget his flock, he's still pope but he's still useless to anybody because he doesn't care to do his duty. Go ask children who have been adopted or had to rely on themselves for the majority of their upbringing and even they will tell you that they don't really have a parent and that they don't consider them their parents because they opted out. Sedevacanists basically are that child. We were abandoned by our parent a long time ago and nobody has wanted to step up to the plate by conforming to Christ's teachings. The SSPX has no real reason to be such bullies when it comes to sede's since (at least in action) they do the same thing.

The baptism you received was valid. As regards other sacraments, there are a lot of other factors to consider that would take more space than we have here.

A few important things to know about Catholicism before leaving the Church for the Sedevcantist Movement: 1. Recognise and Resist is a long practiced Catholic Tradition ( www.trueorfalsepope.com/ ); Take a look at Dr Roberto de Mattei's book - "Love for the Papacy and Filial Resistance to the Pope in the History of the Church" - a selection of easy to read articles from the passed few years. 2. The Catholic Church (the very visible Church with churches and priests everywhere) has a valid priesthood ( www.trueorfalsepope.com/p/sedevacantistwatch-peter-dimond.html ); Cardinal Ottaviani, no less, never had any concerns over the validity of the new rites, even though he expressed concern to Pope Paul VI over the legitimacy of Novus Ordo Mass. 3. Exactly who are these men who started the Sedevacantist ant-Catholic sect and what are their aims? ( www.trueorfalsepope.com/p/sedevacantist-watch.html ). Another article refuting the rubbish shouted on N.O.W. ( www.acatholicthinker.net/a-response-to-novus-ordo-watch/ ); Scroll down to Traditionalist Issues for the article if the link won't take you straight there. Also give this refutation a read, if you are serious about being Catholic ( matt1618.freeyellow.com/sedevacantism.html )

@@soniamartin2007 1. recognize and resist was never catholic teaching and in fact goes against several dogmas. all of dr de matteis examples of history are a misrepresantation of the actual facts and draws conclusions from false analogys. such as: paul refutet peter in the bible. while it is correct that paul refutet peter, it is also correct that it never was a refutation about peter spreading heresy! but instead paul refutet peter because peter didnt act according to his own preaching and the preaching of the church.

Anyone can perform a valid baptism, even pagans and heretics. That's a defined dogma from the Council of Florence. You should read An Open Letter to Confused Catholics by Marcel Lefebvre and The Catechism of the Crisis in the Church by Mathias Gaudron. I can give you copies if you like.

The rite (or fraternity or diocese or brotherhood, etc) spoken of here, or the SSPV, SSPX, CRMI, etc are ALL valid so long as they continue to adhere to the traditional catechism, traditional sacraments, etc as described by Father Gregory Hesse Canon lawyer, etc etc. and they were consecrated by valid bishops in valid sacraments. I’m still trying to figure out why they are/were fighting amongst themselves! The New Order is the one to stay away from.

@@PahooKatawahcheck Bp Donald Sanborn on this. The real problem is una cum with heretic Francis.

Try novusordowatch.org/now-what/ . Not all parishes or priests are online, so contact one of those priests... I hope you will find one nearby. God bless!

Sedevacantism is a novelty, not found in tradition. The Church has never taught it, nor was it ever believed by the faithful always and everywhere. It is mere speculation of a few of the Fathers. Catholics have always and everywhere believed there are two ways for a pope to lose his office; 1) His death and 2) His resignation. Beyond that, We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man.

We must see the aparition as what it was: an aparation of Our Lady, approved by the Catholic Church and have deep respect for it and its vidents, but nothing else. Personally, i'm just tired of all those "messages" atributed to Our Lady in Fátima, Lasallete and Lourdes, they are so confusing and contradictorious that i am even starting to think all those "messages" didn't even took place. The same goes to those that talk about "3 days of darkness" (and i was REALLY obsessed with that). The only private prophecies i believe (and i admit its just for personal interests) are those that talk about a Great Catholic Monarch and an intercession of Heaven to elect a new Pope. But again, i know we are not meant to believe in private revelations so if people don't believe them there Is no problem at all (though i hope they could happen).

@@LuisRincon-wr4dm yep! :)

No,. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jaedpM-Ay8jHkmw.html

They were refuted already

Your comment went into a garbage before it was written. And Fr. Cekada has binned it before he passed away.

Why Siri has joined modernists later on?

@@dawidtrybula Perplexing for many, but he wasn't a free agent. He was under duress, threatened and probably killed in 1989. That God gave us a pope on 26 Oct 1958, is the best explanation for events. Sedevacantism is less likely. The evil is the money power acting on the world and Church. It goes back, I think, to 1515, Pope Leo X, a Medici with his position on usury and to around the time of William the Conquer in 1066. The Church hasn't contained usury. William granted London it's first Royal Charter to be,in effect, a special economic zone, which it has retained since. The Church has to fix the bad effects of Leo X 's bull of 1515 on usury and shut usury down. Because it hasn't, usurers own the world and finance evil events.

Ludicrous. He never accepted the office.

@@j.knight9335 He did and resigned under duress. That's illegal, so he remained pope, in exile until he died in 1989.

@@dawidtrybula He was under duress, was not a free agent, like David in the Old Testament after he was anointed king by Samuel. Arguably, he was king in exile from about 22 years old to about 30 years old, when he was recognised as king and reigned. Siri was in exile from 26 October 1958 till May 1989,when he died, likely murdered by poisoning.

I suppose you have been told that sedevacantists have abandoned the Church *sigh*. How silly. If sedevacantists believe all of the doctrines of the Church, including that heretics are not a part of the Church, how have they abandoned Her? It's just false. ; ) We are Catholic.

@John piang_4211965 I agree, so stop thinking of us as "sedevacantists" and just think of us how we think of ourselves, Catholics.

The law does not oblige you to go to a Mass celebrated in communion with heretics.

The Church does not allow anyone to go to a Mass of those in schism with her own teachings. She never has. The faith has to be kept and to go to such a Mass will can put your faith and the faith of future generations in danger.

Praise God! Welcome to the truth!

Well, he was. The text of the 1953 Decree is here: www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=1&catname=2