Why Do We Love The Maelstrom?

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Mechanical Frog

Mechanical Frog

9 ай бұрын

Today we look at an #SLDF #battlemech that has flown under the radar a bit. Not for lack of quality or quantity, as the Maelstrom can be found across the #InnerSphere and even among #Clan forces.
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@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
That should read "Snord," not "Snort," I apologize to any Snord's Irregular fans out there.
@scytheseven9173
@scytheseven9173 9 ай бұрын
Honestly it checks out, I don't think any Snord's Irregular fans would be mad
@keebbles
@keebbles 6 ай бұрын
Was gonna say.
@scytheseven9173
@scytheseven9173 9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate how you look at more obscure 'Mechs instead of sticking to the Succession Wars classics, and how you go over their history and their performance in MegaMek. Are you going to cover the Dragon Fire?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I think we will at some point. I'll put it on the list.
@stormcrow28
@stormcrow28 9 ай бұрын
The Maelstrom is a good example of what recovered tech can do when FASA stops intentionally designing poor mechs. It's fast, well armored, and hits hard with little to no heat build up. I pair them up with Marauder 5Ds, Dragon Fires, and Nightstars.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Good solid company.
@derekburge5294
@derekburge5294 9 ай бұрын
Three for four?! In Kerensky's name, the deals never end, quiaff?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Sea Fox always has you covered... at a premium.
@matthewpena3932
@matthewpena3932 9 ай бұрын
I have the golden century and I don't even recall this mech. Thanks for covering fun mechs out there. I hope we have the Merlin on your list.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
It's on the list now!
@charlesballiet7074
@charlesballiet7074 9 ай бұрын
I just love some of those old SLDF designs they look more like high speed trains that grew limbs, not to mention that lovely 80's go fast asthetic like the numerals painted on the side
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
That era of mech design has been referenced as the, "no straight lines" phase. It's wild.
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ 3 ай бұрын
For some reason strictly SLDF mechs just feel SLDF, i can legitimately see a mech for the first time and automatically know that it's a star league exclusive.
@lucendacier6851
@lucendacier6851 9 ай бұрын
Respect, fielding your variant in MegaMek to test it out! Also I just today noticed ElementalFrog's mouth is moving during the video. You're not going VTuber, are you, Frog?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Not going v-tuber. I wouldn't survive even a day of the drama that seems to be a requirement in that space.
@ARCCommanderOrar
@ARCCommanderOrar 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mechfrog, for always managing to put a smile on my face.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Mission accomplished.
@Ironclockwork
@Ironclockwork 9 ай бұрын
A solid 'Mech with some very feasible loadouts (And one not-so-feasible) and an interesting backstory, but sadly given little attention in the art department. One can only pray that these less-covered 'Mechs will one day get an artistic glowup.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the CGL glam up.
@HouseDavieMerc
@HouseDavieMerc 9 ай бұрын
Good video. Thanks for doing this one. The Maelstrom is a mech that I SHOULD like as it's a relative of the Marauder but there's a few things that make it not see table time for me. As a heavy mech it commits what I consider a sin that none of it's variants seem to fix. It packs 2 big guns-but both are different and have different range brackets. I prefer to have 2 big weapons with matching brackets that work well together when possible. It has the tonnage to pack 2 ER PPCs and be really awesome but now it feels like it has one gimped arm. The other is the artowork I think putting it on a diet and making it look more balanced while keeping some of it's look would be a big improvement.
@Accentaur
@Accentaur 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel the same as you about the armaments. It would be nice to see the rest of the lesser known Marauder-series mechs get an art update.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I definitely understand the symmetrical weapons thing.
@jarekmace1536
@jarekmace1536 9 ай бұрын
I built a lance with this, a Marauder, a Marauder 2, and a Dragon Fire, modeled on the lead characters from Bubblegum Crisis OVA. I had the heavy brawler, EWO specialist, maneuvering ace, and the rounder who was also the lance commander. I don't remember the particulars (this was over 20 years ago), but it worked reasonably well for the cost.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
That would be an incredible lance.
@jasonhenninger8220
@jasonhenninger8220 9 ай бұрын
Taking the 6K with inspiration from the 7K. Rationalizing clan weapons easier to aquire over electronics. Keeping the Guardian(IS), upgrade all weapons to clan spec. ERPPC, ERLL, 3 ERML. IS equip: XL, Endo, 20DHS, L-AMS & targeting computer (BV2 2836).
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
That would be solid.
@ursulcx299
@ursulcx299 3 ай бұрын
Honnestly, a smaller, faster Marauder speaks to my soul I can't explain why. But that this mech is just an obscure rare post-clan model is a tragedy. It should be an emblematic widespread mech straight from the golden age of the star league
@KingMakerRook
@KingMakerRook 9 ай бұрын
I always appreciate how you know how much I love hitting buttons
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Who doesn't love hitting buttons?
@Aceman52
@Aceman52 9 ай бұрын
I've always liked the Malestrom. The MF variant is a killer. Good job
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
It's a fun one. Thanks!
@kierdalemodels
@kierdalemodels 9 ай бұрын
Please continue covering these lesser-known mechs. I’ve seen it before but knew pretty much nothing about the Maelstrom👍
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Will do!
@AlexDenton0451
@AlexDenton0451 9 ай бұрын
Personally I'd love the Wolfhound, it's not the most uncommon mech to see talked about but it is my absolute favorite.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I think we could add that one to the list.
@jiiaga5017
@jiiaga5017 28 күн бұрын
The Maelstrom seems like a mech that would be perfect to get a light fusion engine. Downgrade to 5-7, add a supercharger, win. The Rakshasa is another mech that could have gotten a similar treatment?
@GrozaMariposa
@GrozaMariposa 9 ай бұрын
First I wanted to say I absolutely LOVE the colors you put on the original art it looks super good on the Maelstroms hunched design! I like also like how you are shining light to mechs that aren't just the classics there are a ton of unique ones throughout each TRO and era that never even see the light of day either because of being overshadowed by popular ones or just having a whacked out appearance (not the Maelstrom it's a beautiful mech personally). I especially mean TRO: 3060 and some of the updated appearances of most of the TRO:3055 Upgrade. Most people won't buy them to use in a mercenary company or even include them in a campaign because the designs have a face a mother wouldn't even love, let alone the rest of the body. I hope I didn't go full crazy with the word wall I promise my new cybernetics I bought on clearance from the Myomer and Me kiosk aren't giving me more than three aneurysms monthly!!!!
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Every mech needs some love. Especially ones that have exactly one piece of official art...
@robrib2682
@robrib2682 9 ай бұрын
looks like a clan take on the original crab mech design (out of universe I mean. the one that made it look like a horseshoe crab with claws instead of Mr. Lobster Man) I like the look
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
There are some nice 3rd party sculpts out there for the Maelstrom. It has a good look.
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 9 ай бұрын
3058 was a good sourcebook, but the art in it was pretty haphazard. It had all manner of great vehicles and mechs in there, along with some which were kind of... strange, looking at you O-Bakemono. Strange but extremely destructive!
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I love Dwane Loose's art but that era definitely rubs some people the wrong way. It's perhaps not the best for clarity in establishing what a mech actually looks like.
@krissteel4074
@krissteel4074 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Laughing at battletech art is a long tradition :) Its one of those things were you do want a blend of technical design, game material and art concept to be at least cohesive enough to sort of look 'mechanically feasible' that people can accept what it is and does. From another angle it'd definitely look like some kind of Crab mech and I think that's what they might have been going for with it, an energy weapon mech between the basic Crab and King Crab
@ogrehaslayers605
@ogrehaslayers605 2 ай бұрын
Another mech i don't think ive ever seen anyone discuss before! Nice! I didn't realize there were so many variants of this guy. I ran one once and i remember thinking i had rolled a weird, waste of a heavy mech... But then the thing was really good! Never used one again, because i didn't have a mini for it and i just kind of forgot about it. Other than as i looked through my TRO, and I'd always think "those things are pretty good."
@atmosdwagon4656
@atmosdwagon4656 9 ай бұрын
It's like someone took one of those novelty-physics desk toys, blew it way up and made a war machine out of it. I personally prefer the Marauder and DragonFire over the Maelstrom, but I would not complain if issued one as a pilot. It's a fine machine that does its job quite well.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
It just works.
@spencerjones841
@spencerjones841 9 ай бұрын
For a more bracket build maelstrom there are 2 options circa when it was reintroduced/introduced to the inne sphere in my opinion assuming endosteel is applied. In both instances the DHS count is reduced to 16 and the ER LL is replaced with a ER PPC. The difference is in the rest of weapons load out. In option 1 the load out is 9 mediums and the tag or 10 if the tag is deleted. In option 2 it'd 6 ER medium lasers and the TAG plus the Beagle Active Probe and Guardian ECM of the 6K
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Plenty of good options here with the framework.
@andrewfsheffield
@andrewfsheffield 9 ай бұрын
As much of a legend as Duane Loose I definitely prefer his early boxy designs over his later bendy designs. He always did have an odd eye for angles. For example the Victor art from 3025 has the head pointed away from the viewer so for the longest time I didn't realize that the "shield" on the back of the head wasn't a "visor" on the front. He's an incredible talent tho and my own mech artwork is inspired by his style more than anybody else's.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
iirc, Loose has mentioned that the no straight lines period was rough. I do love the early stuff. Especially his vehicles.
@jamesbeard5513
@jamesbeard5513 9 ай бұрын
In the Maelstrom vs Dragonfire or Marauder debate, it seems it would depend on the role you have in mind for it. For deep raiding or fast striking of an enemy force, I would favor the Maelstrom over the other two designs. For a straight up fight, I would prefer the other two, though which depends on how hot the planet is and how close resupply is as well. All fun designs, though I understand the complaints about the 6E and 6K, the 7K is a surprise though as this is the first time I've heard of it and your MF variant is good against a variety of opponents. I would probably get the 7K and replace the X-Pulse Lasers with Clan Medium Pulse Lasers (greater range and punch with less heat) and be able to do volley fire by holding back with the Heavy Large every other turn, depending on the opponent and environment of course. With my luck, however, I would probably be paying the standard cost of 3 for the price of 6 at the Sea Fox market.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
A mech for every purpose and taste. Personally, I think the IS XL engine is a big liability which forces the Maelstrom into the backfield.
@jamesbeard5513
@jamesbeard5513 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog True, the CASE II systems help mitigate the vulnerability better than when XLs were first introduced, but still quite vulnerable compared Standard, Light, and Clan XLs. The only way an Inner Sphere design has a chance of coming close to parity in terms of firepower and armor to a similar sized Clan design either has them going slower or become more fragile with an XL. Neither are too appealing of a choice when going one on one with a Clan design.
@jasonfarley9025
@jasonfarley9025 9 ай бұрын
Love this video! Had forgotten about this mech.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Yay! A reintroduction!
@gregkun1
@gregkun1 9 ай бұрын
My take on the Maelstrom I replace the IS endo steel IS XL Engine with the Clan Endo Steel, and the Clan XL. To give some savings all round. I kept the IS-DHS as a treat. Weapons: 2 ER-Large Palse Lasers in LA/RA, 3 Heavy MED Lasers in LA,CT, and RA, and AP Gauss Rifle in the Head and 1 ton of ammo stored in the LL. I still have .5 ton left over and no more slots. So when available Replace IS-DHS with Clan DHS freeing up slots and put and Light Active Probe to fill the .5ton. Heat is 50/46.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The ER Large Pulse Lasers can be fun.
@gunarliepins
@gunarliepins 9 ай бұрын
Great as always getting a look at the not so mainstream mech. One thing that confused me though was calling the downgrading of the ER PPC and ER LLas an "abomination" for reducing its damage/headcapping potential, don't IS PPCs/LLas do exactly the same damage as the ER variants?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Yes, that was an error my part. I spend too much time playing with Clan mechs.
@STSGingie
@STSGingie 9 ай бұрын
The "no straight lines" era of Battletech art was a strange one. Nice to see you showing one without new art some love.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I've always had a soft spot for the Maelstrom. It doesn't get enough love.
@STSGingie
@STSGingie 9 ай бұрын
@MechanicalFrog There are a lot if mechs that could use a little affection like this. Glad you are shining a spotlight on them.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
More to come...
@TheLDpwnz
@TheLDpwnz Ай бұрын
I took a stab at making an inner sphere tech version of your MF variant that doesn't go too far down the timeline. A prototype perhaps? Endo-Steel Frame Plasma Rifle (LA) 2 Tons of Ammo (LT) Snub-Nosed PPC (RA) 3 ER Medium Lasers (LT, CT, and RT respectively) 19 Double Heat Sinks (keeping it heat neutral even when Alpha Striking at full speed) That leaves 4 tons leftover which you can invest into a MASC (not as hard to get your hands on as a Supercharger) or a Targeting Computer. I keep going back and forth on which one to pick...
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog Ай бұрын
I'd use it.
@TheLDpwnz
@TheLDpwnz Ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog What would you go with? MASC for the occasional 10 movement point burst or a targeting computer for -1 on your shots?
@egaroadkill8701
@egaroadkill8701 9 ай бұрын
I've enjoyed the Maelstrom up until the IS XL getting hit, which occurs all to often. Love the MF variant. The plasma rifle is a favorite of mine, but I rarely get to use it. I might test this one out as its teamed up with a good load out in a fast heavy. Gotta love fast heavy's with reach.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The IS XL is just such a risk... bleh
@MetalGlitch
@MetalGlitch 2 ай бұрын
I made a custom clan tech Maelstrom with 2 ER PPCs and 3 medium pulse lasers. I never got to play it, but I bet it would be a potent sniper that could still protect itself if lights tried to rush it.
@roguerifter9724
@roguerifter9724 7 ай бұрын
I used to run one that removed the tAG and Small Laser the switched the Medium Pulse Lasers to Medium Lasers in order to add three JumpJets. I never was fond of C3 units so I would probably remove the Supercharger and C3 to add jump jets and maybe some more Heat sinks (I don't recall how much a 375 XL engine weighs and thus how much weight removing the Supercharger grants
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like positive changes.
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke 9 ай бұрын
I remember when this came out in the TRO, liked it then as now. Fairly well balanced with proper heat management. Can't ask more of your weapon of choice. Agreed some of the ahem, variants needed to killed before they came out. Otherwise this is a very cool (pun not intended) to run in a campaign.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it has some fans.
@keebbles
@keebbles 6 ай бұрын
4 light ppcs / 2 each arm. 3 MPL ECM & a TC. 2 A/B pods for legs 2 AP gauss in CT w 1 ton ammo each. 1 spl in head. Lose 2 DHS as no longer needed. Allows for 4 JJs or a Supercharger and extra armor.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 5 ай бұрын
Hmm... I'd run it just to see what happens.
@boneshaman8912
@boneshaman8912 9 ай бұрын
Maelstrom miniature reminds me of a frog. Perfect for mech frog
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
There aren't enough amphibian-themed mechs. Salamander is pretty much it.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 9 ай бұрын
Oh, that Atlas mini looks GREAT, love what you did with the glowy eyes! But i don´t like the look of the Maelstrom, to me, it looks like it has to bow down to this torso position because some moron installed the cockpit facing rearward. "Three for the price of four", yes, that´s what a Sea Fox sale looks like XD Decend MF version, i like it. Plasma Rifle is a NIGHTMARE to any infantrist. Even Armored Infantry is endangered by that weapon, i certainly would make a long way around any mech armed with it.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Good times had by all... I'm looking forward to a re-imagining of the Maelstrom with CGL. I think it'll look slick.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog I really hope it comes sooner than later, the Maelstrom is one of those old designs in DIRE need of retouching. THOROUGH retouching. There is only one single piece of artwork on its Sarna site, and i cannot recall having seen it in any other instance. Maybe there is one take of it in the MekPaks for MW4, but i never downloaded that.
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Just googled it, i found another piece that, stylistically, SCREAMS Matt Plog, but that´s from an Alternative Universe fan project and thus not canon. Looks really slick though, not like a squashed egg...
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I looked around for quite a bit looking for more art but it just doesn't seem to have any. @@sim.frischh9781
@TheLDpwnz
@TheLDpwnz 9 ай бұрын
Great timing on the video. I lucked into getting a IWM mini of the Maelstorm (along with some other oddball mechs) for just a few bucks. Looking forward to fielding this in a lance in the future! My battletech buddy primarily prefers to play in the Clan Invasion or FedCom Civil War era so unfortunately the MTR-7K and MF variants likely won't see play at my table. What are your thoughts on the 5K vs 6E variants?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Oh, awesome. The 5K is solid. The 6E a bit more niche with the electronics package.
@TheGreystroke
@TheGreystroke 6 ай бұрын
really hope you do the Falconer and lots of the 55 designs an under rated TRO
@haileysaint5443
@haileysaint5443 9 ай бұрын
While it doesn't seem like a bad design, especially your MF variant, I have to say I'd prefer a Marauder over it.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@user-ul9pj2wh6u
@user-ul9pj2wh6u 9 ай бұрын
the clan 2nd line mech grizzley from clan ghost bear would be interesting to see how you present it and its history
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The Grizzly is an interesting one.
@RealgarTheSchist
@RealgarTheSchist 2 ай бұрын
The snords are the best with that response
@Ruggedtoaster
@Ruggedtoaster 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s a contender for5/8 speed heavies for striker or Calvary lances. My main problem with fielding it is that it usually competes against my Flashman for a spot in the lance. In the 3050s, I personally seem to do better with more shots from the flashman rather than accuracy the pulse lasers give you and in the dark age well I have mixed feelings about the reflective armor, but I cannot deny that the clan tech triple ER lasers and xl engine make the Flasman 10E a hard IS heavy to pass up. Though I will the maelstrom is probably best for forces designed around rapidly securing objectives or raiding.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 7 ай бұрын
It definitely needs to be moving, no matter the role.
@Ruggedtoaster
@Ruggedtoaster 7 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog oh yeah shoot for 7 hexs every move and it will surprise you with how hard it is to kill. +3 to hit is no joke in the invasion/civil war era
@gregdomenico1891
@gregdomenico1891 9 ай бұрын
Isn't the Night Star the last of the 'Star League Era'( 3058) Marauder variants? As for the 'Do I take a Marauder, Dragon Fire or Maelstrom' in game, kind of depends on your play style. If you like a fast Heavy with good punch, go for a Maelstrom. I've used all of them, and I kind of like the Marauders load out better. But that MF variant does look good.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I marauder-type mech for every taste...
@Kingofdragons117
@Kingofdragons117 9 ай бұрын
Another oddball recommendation is the Cestus. I am curious on your thoughts of the IS 65t Heavy.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Ooh, I have a little bit of a conflicted view on that.
@Kingofdragons117
@Kingofdragons117 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Don't like the design or the variants?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The 6X is garbage and the big floppy flipper feet just kill me. @@Kingofdragons117
@GigaGom
@GigaGom 9 ай бұрын
would love to see whatcha think about the Viking :3
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Get out of my head!
@AMX0009
@AMX0009 9 ай бұрын
Hmm, what if we were to take this another way.... let's say the lyrans using clan stealth armor from the spector lines, using 2 former WIE sourced clan er large lasers. And 2 clan medium pulse lasers. Building it around a is light engine, and and innersphere tag and ecm and we got a solid head hunter.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I like this idea.
@TheStraycat74
@TheStraycat74 9 ай бұрын
13:46 Froggy mminds, lol
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I had a mind once... then two children later...
@TheStraycat74
@TheStraycat74 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog did that myself a long time ago...wife, two kids, corporate job (IBM)... and it ended badly. 24 years later I'm still hurting
@leonasmith6180
@leonasmith6180 2 ай бұрын
Thanks again froggy, not long got into Mechs, was a deadicated Elder Scrolls fan untill I was talking into getting Mech Woror 5. thanks for being there for all the back ground in a humors format, my best to you and yours from the worlds worst speller. Leona
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for coming by and welcome to the fray, Mechwarrior.
@sharlin648
@sharlin648 9 ай бұрын
The Maelstrom's an odd duck, its largely forgotten by the players, is cursed with god aweful art and a terrible model yet its history is interesting in that its a development of the Marauder and on the table, its VERY fast for an IS heavy. Hopefully it gets a redesign and a new model instead of the dogs eggs we've got now in the future, its a 'Mech that needs some love! I assume you'll do the Dragon Fire at some point, a very hard hitting machine, also cursed with bad art and a bad model.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the CGL re-imagining.
@cargo_vroom9729
@cargo_vroom9729 9 ай бұрын
Ahh the Dragon Fire, not to be confused with the Dragonfire.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
O_o
@MrDmitriRavenoff
@MrDmitriRavenoff 9 ай бұрын
GM making a mech with a Ford engine would never happen. 😅 however it's a neat design. I like your colorized version.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I could see Ford being around... GM, not so much.
@Bolththrower
@Bolththrower 9 ай бұрын
Noice!
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
:D
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 9 ай бұрын
I love why we love x mech videos
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
More nonsense to come.
@Tatsu_of_Liao
@Tatsu_of_Liao 9 ай бұрын
Great neck from a great host,
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
O_o
@scytheseven9173
@scytheseven9173 9 ай бұрын
Is there an "i" in "team" if you're the Word of Blake and use a C3i system?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
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@MrMyu
@MrMyu 9 ай бұрын
It's a decent machine, but it feels somewhat cobbled together. To me, it's a MAD-3L, updated with lostech, and the 3L was always described as put together from spare parts. it's not a bad machine; it's a good, speedy heavy cav mech and raider. But it just never "felt" like a proper Marauder successor, and that's always biased my opinion towards it.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Hmm... Would you like it more or less if there were two ER LL or two ER PPCs?
@MrMyu
@MrMyu 9 ай бұрын
Ugh... hard question. There's no shortage of "twin PPC" designs out there, and the design doesn't really support that concept without *major* sacrifices elsewhere, but the twin ER LL idea really can't punch hard enough. Being a fast raider, my dumb idea would kill the range off, probably unacceptably so, but either go with twin snub-nose PPCs, or twin LPLs. Really lean into the speed, but make it accurate. So it's always on the move. You could compensate for the weight of the pulse lasers by dropping a couple heat sinks, since it's a little cooler than a ER LL, and significantly cooler than an ER PPC.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Maybe we could cram three snub nosed PPCs on it... @@MrMyu
@MrMyu
@MrMyu 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog It's doable, but requires endo steel. That minor detail aside, if you swap the MPLs for ER MLs, and delete the SL, you can fit triple snubbies in there. Alpha strike puts you at 4 heat. Alternately, drop the MPLs to standard MLs, delete the TAG, and drop to 16 double heat sinks, and you can alpha strike to 7 heat on the run. Which... I've no idea why you would alpha strike like that, but you *can* triple-fire the snubbies all day long at full sprint.
@malusignatius
@malusignatius 9 ай бұрын
"Why do we love the Maelstrom?" Not for the original artwork, that's for sure.
@tehpw7574
@tehpw7574 9 ай бұрын
I think the hard part would be the modernization of a Maelstrom in comparison to the current version of the Marauder: Do you keep the curves or actually make it more CAD Marauder-like?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Aww... :D
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I think tightening things up a bit and streamlining would help a lot.
@malusignatius
@malusignatius 9 ай бұрын
​@@MechanicalFrog I'd also move/redesign the legs. At the moment, the design looks really front-heavy. The model *does* look a lot better than the art, but it's still a design that I look at and I need to spend a minute figuring out how it could walk without falling on it's face. (Yes I know, don't use RW physics in BT etc, but I', not talking about that, I'm talking more that, if you were to animate the model for a game or cartoon, how would you get it to work and look realistic.)
@marcmiddleton2277
@marcmiddleton2277 9 ай бұрын
Waiting for the Kodiak & Bruin
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The Kodiak is on the short list.
@marcmiddleton2277
@marcmiddleton2277 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog waiting to see the MF varient 🤣
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Maybe we can put Triple Strength Myomer on it...
@ChaosTicket
@ChaosTicket 9 ай бұрын
The Maelstrom is an odd one. Its more like a Warhammer than a Marauder. A lot of new generation 75ton units came out to replace them presumably because of the Harmony Gold issues. In addition to the Maelstrom, there was the Bandersnatch, Defiance, Dragonfire, Falconer, Penetrator, Thanatos, and maybe others. Personally I dont like the Maelstrom because its just really expensive without a clear focus. You could have lance of Lostech-upgraded Wolverines and Griffins. In terms of individual performance the Maelstrom isnt that good. It has a couple cannons and some close range lasers.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The IS XL engine just really is a problem for me.
@ChaosTicket
@ChaosTicket 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Because of side torso kills?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Yes. @@ChaosTicket
@Brigand231
@Brigand231 9 ай бұрын
...because piloting a Marauder wasn't exclusive enough anymore, they gave it a new name and updated the tech so they could feel superior once again. Rhonda Snort? lol
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Now we're going to be haunted by Rhonda Snord's ghost. Well done.
@Brigand231
@Brigand231 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrogHey, don't blame me for your proofreading skills! I thought it was intentional.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Good thing I only make mistakes on days that end in Y.
@Brigand231
@Brigand231 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrogIndeed, that does narrow the field quite a bit. Luckily, this one can easily be blamed on autocorrect.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Yeah... autocorrect... let's go with that.
@randyslater199
@randyslater199 9 ай бұрын
still love the MF version
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
It just wants a cuddle.
@nexusofice9135
@nexusofice9135 9 ай бұрын
GM... Always making products we want.... And many we don't.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
If they're around in 10 years, I'll eat my hat. Let alone a thousand.
@nexusofice9135
@nexusofice9135 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog I have an odd feeling that you don't even have a hat to eat. Leaving no risk to you.
@Ironhold_Watch
@Ironhold_Watch 9 ай бұрын
I got books otw😄
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
One can never have too many books.
@Ironhold_Watch
@Ironhold_Watch 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog i finally replaced my shattered sphere copy
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Nice!
@therakshasan8547
@therakshasan8547 9 ай бұрын
Maelstrom has T E A M in it .
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
It also has MEAT.
@KeystoneCarcajou
@KeystoneCarcajou 9 ай бұрын
we've used a redback, but it was underwhelming.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Not a great refit.
@KeystoneCarcajou
@KeystoneCarcajou 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog I think the Maelstrom went a bit far from what made the Marauder good. little too quick and the TAG makes no sense to me.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
The TAG is a little silly as you generally aren't going to want to get too close.
@DapperRaccoon
@DapperRaccoon 9 ай бұрын
Great video, but not a mech I have any interest in ever fielding. Now the Balius though... if only I had such a video to help me better understand it's weaknesses...
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Hmmm... But it's a mech that looks like a horse... why!?
@DapperRaccoon
@DapperRaccoon 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog why not? JF has silly bird mechs, GBs have bear mechs... and unlike those losers, the horsey mech gets sick flame detail paint jobs.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I will put it on the maybe pile.
@DapperRaccoon
@DapperRaccoon 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog sometimes you fight to win, but sometimes you fight to just not lose. I'll take that as being successful at the latter.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
*Two thumbs and a hoof up* @@DapperRaccoon
@TygerYasha
@TygerYasha 9 ай бұрын
GM? So it's the Chevy Lumina of battlemechs? Huh....
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Hard to imagine GM lasting 10 more years let alone a thousand.
@tehpw7574
@tehpw7574 9 ай бұрын
Boosted S-Unit? Really? (Yes, Really. The level of Insight for Real-World concerns... is remarkable and respectable)...
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
*shrug*
@NemFX
@NemFX 9 ай бұрын
Looks similar to the Novas
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Definitely has that look.
@joshuamidgette4846
@joshuamidgette4846 9 ай бұрын
You added ammo considerations to a good mech that does not have them. Bad Mech Frog.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
If you can't win with 20 Plasma Rifle shots, I don't know what to tell you. :D
@claytonhollowell4488
@claytonhollowell4488 9 ай бұрын
Snort's Irregulars?
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
Gosh darn it... this is what I get for transcribing late at night.
@claytonhollowell4488
@claytonhollowell4488 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Algoroth demands content. Algoroth does not demand spell checking.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I am blaming Google.@@claytonhollowell4488
@claytonhollowell4488
@claytonhollowell4488 9 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Algoroth, google. Google, algoroth. Is there really a difference?
@brettwerdesheim9767
@brettwerdesheim9767 9 ай бұрын
finally back to an era i prefer
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
We'll keep hopping around, as is my nature.
@zarthemad8386
@zarthemad8386 8 ай бұрын
this mech is horribly under-gunned for its tonnage.
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 8 ай бұрын
It trades some of the firepower for speed.
@dmora2386
@dmora2386 9 ай бұрын
Nice use of htop lol someone's knows Linux
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
I admit to nothing.
@savage0987654321
@savage0987654321 9 ай бұрын
Mattplog did a redesign of the maelstrom it look slick
@gkeaton9755
@gkeaton9755 9 ай бұрын
Matt Plog has done redesigns for several mechs, and most of them are very, very cool!
@MechanicalFrog
@MechanicalFrog 9 ай бұрын
It does look good.
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