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Good job Darkdecideueye , you really Pinned the problem down.

Is that a MeGaMiNd ReFeReNcE?

I hope the live action keep them dead

So... You're that punk I've heard about.

From a certain point of view

@@samgarner36 man that is an old reference and I still hate that weaseling out of lying that Obi did.

Good summation.

How?

@@GrandLineReview uncosmics your brownies

@@Kaiselof I'm using this , sir

@@Kaiselof unhoneys your buns

I actually dont read cover pages so I thought some of those characters genuinely died lol

Untill the story gets to the point where those cover pages pay off

@@shirotako6249 A lot of what people think is anime filler is actually cover page stories. Like Buggys adventure after fighting Luffy.

@@yesterdayschunda1760 and coby and helmeppo's entire training arc from being janitors to being garps apprentices

@@yesterdayschunda1760 wait what, so they aren't?

Yeah..I do😂😂

Luffy knows what series he's in.

@@williamturner6192 lmaoooo

@@williamturner6192 I would give you another like but its currenty at the funny number so I cant

as Gecko Moria zombies

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@LOGAN WEBSTER that would be ridiculous

And they were saved by Zombie Gol D Roger

@@SomeTexan who resurrected all flashback deaths with his devilfruit ability

Nice

What’s GLR?

@@MonkeyDNaruto12 grand line review

It also totally undermines a really emotional part of the story on retrospect and rereads. Now when I reread WCI That scene will just be meaningless while before I really liked it. Pound being alive retroactively made WCI worse for me.

And then when characters finally DO die we will have to be skeptical if it is another fake out making that death lose its possible emotional impact .

@@yanvorona2808 bon clay not being dead makes total sense I thought he was just being captured and being thrown in even worse torture and maybe being stuck in a level 5 cell like ace, crocmom and jinbe were So I never got a vibe he was dieing And any last words is a thing people say to people going to jail lol As for the kinomon one that did make me mad I'm glad he is alive tho just they could have played off his liveing better maybe say he had law cut him in half again and the top half was just his devil fruit powers disguise placed on his legs and thats what was cut off And all that time he was talking it was literally out of his butt lol Instead of oh I guess you guys didnt put me back together properly and somehow they perfectly cut me at the exactly the same angle and spot that law did Pound I dont even remember dieing so maybe it's just cause i figured he would be fine somehow so i didnt think much of his death so didnt even realize it was a "death" lol I do remember yelling at them to go back for him cause i really really wanted to see him reunite with his daughters so I'm glad that thos cover storys are there I've been loveing them

This Pound's death was one of the best scenes of Whole Cake alongside Katakuri's final question to Luffy l'd still rank it below the scene of Pudding crying in the alley because this one recontextualized the entire arc and was probably the single most gut wrenching moment of the entire series. Sanji and her better god damn end together). The idea of a father happily sacrificing his life to save the daughter he never could take in his arms and the grandson he will never be able to see grow up even if said daughter don't know who he is and why he sacrificed himself but he's still happy to oblige. This is really powerful stuff and one truly wonderful scene which I actually believed because he was a character minor enough to let die ........ but no, no he had to survive and meet his daughters and live happily ever after. F you, this scene was perfect and made for a really good and touching arc, this post credit ruins this entirely

I tbink he needs to stop havibng luffy beat the villain the same way. Hell get beat up they say some shit he gets mad and then gets bigger and somehow faster and somehow the villain cant dodge then the villain does one final power up and luffy just makes his attacks bigger

Yo ho ho ho

*sad yo ho ho ho*

Flashback land doesn't count

????????????????

You dropped that 👑

Brook: yohohoho

But couldnt moria theorethically to trick his shado in himself and become an undead a well?!

Actually l, with what we now know.... Probably true xD

He ruined the perfect death Pell had

@@Jrlokerfloorx As Scott McNeil once said when recording his death scene for Dinobot: "Do you mind!? I'm trying to die here!"

Pell in Alabasta, the dad in Skypiea, the dude surviving Big Mom. Those are the worst offendeds imo.

​@Jrlokerfloorx How about Kinemon getting hit by a ACoC attack on the head by Kaido, and then sliced in half with a sword, but still surviving? Or how about Guernica, the CP0 member who Kaido "killed"? He is alive too because of the cover story in the manga, and the fact that he sent the G5 Luffy picture to the World Government.

It's literally every arc: - Merry in Syrup Village (got killed by Klahadore, came back to life) - Gin in Baratie (got poisoned to death, came back to life) - Pell in Alabasta (survived a nuke) - Pagaya in Skypiea (survived that huge lightning bolt) - Spandam in Enies Lobby (robin snapped his spine, came back to life) - Hogback in Thriller Bark (got stomped on by zombie oars, came back to life) I could keep going.

As is bon curry being alive.

I actually love this theory, what if some of these death are hallucinations

LMAOOOOO

@@marocat4749 except bon clay is based so he gets to live

Pell deserves to die with all that heroic speech they did, even Kinemon deserves that death scene cause his speech were magnificent and totally make sense, idk what oda is planning with these characters and why his giving them more plot armour than the main characters, I swear the whole planet could blow and they suddenly survive on a another planet chilling. Mane I'm tryna see some deaths oda cmon

The Slimy adventures of Monet and Vergo. (There's Slime too, even though its sole thing was dying)

Yup here we go again

True

Pedro: I don't have such weaknesses

Bro he has said this hundreds of times..

@@MisaelMatute76bro... What if this is his 1st video watched?

@@Essex121514 Then he wouldnt be surprise that Grandline doesn't like a certain aspect of One Piece...

MisaelMatute76 he wouldn't be surprised if this is not his GLR videos

Our*

Honestly same, because I knew for sure ace was gonna die (because I got that spoiled for me well before I started the series) I cried my eyes out at the death

Why is everyone writing paragraphs

But it ain't the whole cake.

Plus moments after Moscato died mont d or said to go to retrieve hus souls back, or hogback being more of a gag scene

And Bon Clay was in Impel Down and it made sense for him to be taken in as prisoner again.

@@phelps6205 I've got two points for you. 1 It doesn't. 2 He isn't even a prisoner. He literally helped cause the biggest break-out in the history of Impel Down. Magellan was more than ready to kill Luffy when he hadn't even done anything besides break IN. Not even OUT. Why would Magellan not be ready to kill Bon after he was the sole reason the whole break-out even succeeded? You know, forget all of that. Magellan fucking killed random no-name prisoners. That dude's a maniac. He no doubt wanted to kill Bon, because he has definitely killed for less. Plus, Bon ain't a prisoner. He's the queen of 5.5, which wouldn't be anything that Magellan would allow. Basically, he may be a 'prisoner', but he's living free in prison. So yeah, if Bon doesn't come back in the main series, he stays dead in my headcanon.

@@thomaspluijm4396 Bon is the one "fake death" I think has good possibilities for the future. Since it would be awesome to see New World Luffy casually break into Impel Down just to say hi to Bon Clay. But you are absolutely right that he should be dead, Magellan literally told Bon Clay to say his last words.

@@thomaspluijm4396 I feel like Magellan intended to kill Bon but underestimated his strength and didn’t use deadly enough poison. Probably left him for dead and that’s how he got away/got an antidote. It’s not completely out of the realm of possibility like with Pell, and Bon is still serving a purpose in the story in keeping potential allies within impel down.

Same , in fact I didn’t expect his death, I thought he would be captured by Magellan. He sacrificed so that his friend can escape, I don’t think his death will add more drama

@@donrog5035 Yeah but that's the point: Oda shouldn't turn it in an ambiguous way to make some people believe a character died yet that's what he does. I also don't like drama for the sake of drama; in the case of Bon-chan, having to stay in Impel Down was more than enough, especially in a story where one of the main themes is FREEDOM. So why leading us to believe he could be dead just to pull the "Haha no I was just joking" card later ? Like GLR stated, it only hurts the story in the long run.

@@Falgor62 I don’t know why you thought he was dead, it never occurred to me that he will die. So I can’t really relate to this sentiment

Daz Bones was stated to be “killed” by Zoro according to Smoker (could just be English dub tho)

@@donrog5035 exactly they didnt show him getting shot,poisoned, or stabbed just captured and told "any last words" (somthing a prison guard or various other persons would say to a prisoner just before being locked away forever ) So there was no indication he was actually going to die just locked away in that hell and probably given a special torture treatment for a good couple years

The problem is Bon Clay was responsible for letting Luffy and ton of notorious pirates pass through the gates of justice. By doing so, he ruined the reputation of impel down and the marines. Magellan killed a lot of prisoners the day Luffy escaped. There’s no reason why Impel down and it’s staff should have allowed Bon Clay to live.

@@jaberwasp1925 i don’t really mind him living just because it’s bon clay and i see him becoming queen as a better end to his character

@@thighcrush3640 I don’t want him to die either because I like his character. It’s just me and many other people’s opinion that Magellan not killing him when he had the chance to off the man responsible for letting luffy and others go even though he has authority to execute prisoners is bad writing by Oda.

@@jaberwasp1925 it’s not that i don’t want him to die i just like the gag of him constantly surviving and making it to a kingdom full of people just like him

I love this Spongebob meme format

Lmao

Bruh this meme is too accurate 😂💀

LMFAO 😭

Aarlong

So basically the ending of Naruto

I could totally Oda explain the lack of death like this in an SBS

@@kattyberg246 O shit, NO! DON'T massacre my boy so badly.

That’s why I stoped loving one piece as much!

Facts😭

I really want to see clone clone fruit where you can make your clones 👍

@@unlimitedgaming9123 and not spam it like a certain shonen big 3 retired ninja

@@rohankishibe8259 nope there should be limit like 10 or 20 at a time also every clone should have their own will but act accordingly to main body also they didn't dissepear just after one puch like a certain shonen anime 🤡. That would make clone clone fruit a powerful paramcia 👍

so basically he used shadow clone juts and became a naruto?

@@unlimitedgaming9123 to give my man some slack, he did send a clone to deal with a raikage with unlimited chakra, the clones don't really disappear after one punch but the enemies are just that strong.

Lmaooo 😂

Oda: "well yes, but they only *appear* to have died"

What does TLDR mean?

@@alvinzaman6417 Too Long, Don't Read :)

@@mikirapz1169 I always thought it was "Too Long, Didn't Read." The difference is kinda nitpicky do....

That makes a lot of sense

It's shown that katakuri secretly hopes for big moms fall as she's a danger to her emenies and allies. Big mom is just a figure head of the big mom pirates. Kata is the driving force

@@richardtownsend3479 with whats happened in the manga thats honestly huge really and i cant believe i didnt realise

Accuracy

Except that Sabo's existence was already foreshadowed way before Ace's execution arc. Ace's tattoo, as well as the third cup's shadow, were just 2 of the prominent proofs that Oda already had Sabo planned down the line.

@@bayekofsiwa5847 Yeah I’ll give you that but giving Sabo the Mera Mera and making him some big shot revolutionary working under Dragon, makes him sound like a complete fan character.

@@JustSomeGuyWithBadDirections How does that even go down the fanfic route? Sure, Sabo right now isnt that interesting as a character but the eating of Ace's devil fruit could easily be connected with one of One Piece's prominent theme of "Inherited Will." And working for Dragon couldnt be more perfect for a son of royalty who was able to comprehend the evil of his own people and the Revolutionary Army are exactly the faction that directly addresses that concern. The only faction in One Piece that asks the people to rise and free themselves from their cruel monarchy.

It depends on how Oda writes Sabo's conclusion and character development, I HOPE he dosen't make him a second ace or some shit like that, let's bee positive and hopeful

Is Pedro really dead though? I just have trouble believing it. I once heard a joke about how Pedro, monet, and vergo were going to sail in on the merry during the final war and save the strawhats somehow and its hilarious just how scarily possible it sounds.

As a writer, I get this. Not every story is Attack on Titan, and not every writer is George R. R. Martin. Death doesn't automatically make it mature, and in some cases, it can even harm the story altogether. A lot of people like to use death as a means of emotion in fiction, but it's much more complex than that. In some series like Dragon Ball, death may not mean the end of their character arc, or even the story. Heck, for most of the isekai genre, it means the beginning. For one character (like Kaido), death could be their entire motivation, while being left alive with shattered dreams could be a fate much worse than death.

@@KirbyLinkACW I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. Maybe you should tell that to oda though. Because its clear hes using these death scenes for emotion but then wimping out at the last minute for no discernable reason. Dont pretend to be martin and then not have the guts to follow through, you know what I'm saying?

@@lesanon919 I can agree with that. There are characters that exist whose role in a story is, specifically, to die, for emotional reasons or to push the plot. If you don't have it in you to see it through, only to say "haha, nevermind" without a good justification, then what's the point?

@@KirbyLinkACW I remember reading an SBS during syrup village where Oda said “The straw hats don’t kill anyone because in the one piece world their dreams are viewed higher then themselves” and the last bit reminded me of that

Yeah kinemon

Yeah that was fucking bad, even for oda.. felt like a slap to the face when I saw him appear in the cover..

I guess oda have certian way with specific character he know that death would impact get everyone attention. Pound he like a lot wanted keep him alive. It been sad if could not see his daughter. Perdo death was great built sad at the same time

@@laquanlucas6953 pell could have considered a hero that helped saved alabasta and his death would hold so much more weight but now we have self convinced ourselves its the endurance of zoan powers.. smh..

@@RikXtreme4 that radiance of that bomb what pell hold should had kill him in the air. That would had made him hero of alablasta saving a lot people life.

@@laquanlucas6953 honestly, i would have enjoyed it way more if he died and they revealed at the end of the arc that vivi got his fruit

may be he was given his soul back that could probably happen

Seems like a regular occurrence in the Charlotte family to me. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Because if Big Mom isn't out and about in the town, or even if she's out to sea, when she goes crazy the only people who are there she'll attack are her kids. It seemed after they all saw Big Mom take his soul, it seemed like they weren't surprised. I mean, sure they were shocked for a bit, but not surprised it happened.

I totally agree. When Kishimoto kills off characters in Naruto, they stay dead. Thus giving the viewer/reader a genuine emotional impact. Where as Oda's deaths are just him trolling us. Cause when there's no stakes, I can't feel any tension or attachment to these characters.

Agreed. Which is why I have trust issues with Oda's character deaths. For example, I was emotionally moved and saddened over Pell's sacrifice in Alabasta. Now when I re-watch that arc, I will never feel those same emotions ever again, BECAUSE of Oda's trolling! It's just another "boy who cried wolf" situation. Seriously! don't write character death scenes, if you're not following through!

That's what I thought too.

And its reasonable, he could somehow die and revive himself, as zombie. With him there are actual possibilities how he could could cheat death.

It's all fun and games until Oda pulls a red wedding. lol

I kinda wish that terror would happen ...

He's probably waiting to do all the killings at the Final war arc where all Luffy's allies are there

and i still won't believe it

@@fandomunites6414 That's quite possible

The only shocking thing with Monet's death was just the shock of "Smoker's gonna die ...... OH MONET DIED, of course Law double crossed them lmao, should have thought of that". Arc enemies are a subset of characters that have a real shot at being dead for good so when one dies it isn't exactly shocking in itself

Yea sounds more like Naruto logic.

@@mohammadkhizar3464 nah, in Naruto they are even alive after they are buried XD (Reanimation jutsu)

@@cooljo5881 well thats coz it brings dead people back to life meaning they were already DEAD in the first place.

Just wait until that happens and someone actually has a Buried-Buried no mi devil fruit that revives a person everytime it's 3 feet under

@@cooljo5881 fr hidan is still alive after he got buried alive

I’m shocked you believed it. I was shocked to find out Pedro actually died and honestly sometimes I wonder if he’s gonna appear in a cover story down the line

How did it undercut the moment? Death wouldn’t have made that scene any better…:it’s his willingness to sacrifice himself that is worth remembering….he attacked oven knowing he would possibly die….why does it matter that he didn’t? Explain how death undercuts his sacrifice….lol that’s like saying for example….Jesus’ death was undercut by his revival 3 days later….we remember the sacrifice and the courage it takes to do it

@@mastergoku4321 I'd be ashamed of using such a dumb comparison if I were you

@@mastergoku4321 Pound being alive undercuts his death scene as it shows it cheapens it to a hollow attempt at an emotional scene which looses it’s weight on rereads

That would be epic

He would never pop off like that

Then fans would complain he killed too much

@@unknownvariable9239 only fangirls would do this lol

I REALLY doubt that

Kinemon definitely is not dead he has to atleast see his wife one last time before he goes.

Gecko Maria should have at least died to Black Beard and his men because Black Beard kicked Ace’s ass which later resulted in Ace’s death by Akainu killing him, so the very least even if Black Beard survived an encounter with Doflamgino then the very least he should be dead from his encounter with Black Beard and his men.

HOW. At that moment there was at least 5 pacifistas near him and there was DOFLAMINGO. We literally saw that man cut the leg of the possibly biggest giant of that era WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. What do you expect us to think. And i think that invisible guy saved him.

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr what? Blackbeard invited him to join him in chapter 925

I think ppl jump on this, coz Moria has failed so spectacularly at getting over his merits as a powerhouse. It seemed bizarre that someone as pathetic as Moria could escape the killing intent of a mysterious badass like Doflamingo (who still had the full weight of his mystique at the time). Until Dressrosa Arc, I'd say most would regard being cornered by Doflamingo as an open and shut case for death at that point

@@tarikizgua1835 , Black Beard gave Gecko Maria the same ultimatum that he gave Ace and Bonny where if he doesn’t join his Crew then he’d either kill him like how he stole the Devil Fruit that turns people invisible, or he handed them over to the Marnies like he did with Ace and Bonny, so yes even if Gecko Maria survived an encounter with Doflamgino then he should have at least died to Black Beard and his men.

Glad you enjoyed it! :D

I remember so many theories of monet still being alive and a possible candidate for future strawhat because she had books of astronomy on her shelf and those theorist wanted the strawhats to go to space.

Vergos death had a very strong reason. Law taking revenge for Corazon. He always blamed himself for going to the wrong guy. And he made up for it by taking him out

@@deebo429__ Ok, and how often does revenge in One Piece end in death? The list of current timeline deaths is LITERALLY just five characters pre-Wano, your reason isn't exactly strong enough to merit being on that list.

@@tuvillo law has been one of the most important characters introduced into the story. Being a will of D holder and the conductor that has the story train rolling. He even has a straw hat style back story. Homie is basically one of the gang and therefore him getting his comeuppance on the people who has caused him strife is definitely worth adding to the kill count. Also, we're seeing more death in the new world. So much more. We literally watch all the donquixote execs die in front of us. Also Bellamy. If any deaths had narrative beats, it'd be those at the hands of law.

Pedro is pretty set in stone dead

He gonna be like that blonde nazi from jojo bizarre adventure. Cyborg head ass

I feel the same. I wouldn't be surprised...

@@unknownvariable9239 So was Pele... and all the others and yet...

@@NOAH576 his name is Stroheim

I think whether the character has a future purpose for the story or not, it's still bad. It's a cheap way of garnering emotion and if he wants his characters to be useful in the future, he should explain how they survived or just not have killed them off in the first place.

Yeah, pell staying alive was actually frustrating edit: after reviewing some of the scenes. All of them frustrate me, but especially Pell and Bon Clay because Pell was insanely unrealistic since the bomb with Pell was going to decimate part of Alabasta and I almost cried at Bon Clay

Yeah true he could at least do that

@@colinfranco3046 apparently pell was only kept alive cause a bombing happened at the time and oda didnt want to be insensitive

@@colinfranco3046 for me pagaya was the worst. He took one of enels strongest attack straight on that left a giant crater in the ground around him completely incinerating him. and then he shows up at the end of the arc like nothing happen. no scars or anything. and no one questions it.

How can you read/watch that and not think he died?

@@jose_prs you cant killa a god

@@-BlazeK- fair enough

I mean saying "say your last words" is usually only used for a character about to die.

Hasn't Usopp said something like "we are going to die!" ?

@@elekku7031 Everyone is going to die eventually.

@@wekashipo7507 I see. Usopp never lies

Usopp is the living death note

I can't find it but Usopp tells Sanji he will kill him

That’s actually a really good theory, I would love for that to be the actual ending of one piece.

Bingo.

he made new newkama friends

@@hikari62k yes but he will for a fact forever be trapped in the worst prison being subjected to torture and all other kinds of messed up stuff which is close to being dead lol, unless he writes some insane bullshit where they willy nilly rescue him for zero reason

@@shaqjuice420 isn't he on level 5.5 which is hidden from the rest of Impel down where Ivankov was. He basically took over Ivankov's position. remember when Ivankov refused to leave? it suggest that it wasn't that bad.

@@shaqjuice420 I have a feeling the Straw Hats are gonna raid impel down because of wtv is happening with Vivi and Sabo. I'm hella annoyed that Bon Clay didn't die, bc I rmb watching that scene and was like Bon Clay is a fucking legend. I also like Magellan's character and position. With Bon Clay being alive, both his sacrifice and Magellan's character became empty. But yeah ig they will meet each other soon enough I think.

It really ruins it for me.

This is definitely the biggest problem Oda has, if not the only problem Oda has. There's literally no reason to bring them back to life. Another thing that's bad is the pacing in the anime, but that isn't really Oda's fault.

@@Kenny-o6i Agreed. Kishimoto actually kills off characters, and keeps his promise. Sure some of them come back to life, but other times it's permanent. And he doesn't change his mind at the last minute like Oda does. Using Pell as an example, Nico Robin snaps his neck, he's fine. He gets hit by a sniper shot, he's fine. He takes a bomb explosion TO THE FACE! he's perfectly fine! Seriously are you going to kill off this character or not?! MAKE UP YOUR MIND ODA!!!!

Oh and we’re 21 and 22 if that makes a difference

What why he’s not important to the story or interesting

@@jisunggoat960 some characters are just better with a good wholesome ending, not everything has to end dark and gritty. It feels like a relief sometimes.