Honestly the vault dwellers would be the second closest thing to an American citizen (besides the enclave themselves) so I never understood why they would do this

The devs stated the opening to fallout 2 isn’t really cannon because they captured all the residents and just wanted to put the cutscene in because it goes so hard

The enclave actually kidnaps the vault dwellers in fallout 2, they only fire at them in the intro because the devs thought it looked cool.

And then Amata immediately yells at you for saving her

The Enclave in Fallout 3 were not trying to commit mass murder. They didn't know about President Eden's plan to poison the water. Not even Colonel Autumn knew about it. They were just trying to seize control of the purifier and use it to further their control of the wasteland.

I so wish we could meet Enclave in Fallout 4 and say something like "Son, I fought for your country long before your great great great grandfather learned to shoot" or something to it's branch's leader

literally everyone: why do you hate us so much? Enclave: it’s tradition

Wouldn't people living in a vault away from radiation be the most pure people in the wasteland? They're like the closest thing to original American citizens. If the enclave were actually what they claimed to be they would protect vault dwellers. But I think by killing them the Enclave sets themselves up for the badguy role.

Honestly the enclave in 2 were made to be cartoonishly evil at the upper level and absurdly human at the lower level. Really meshes well with them being a caricature of federal america, and thats not sarcasm. Indubitably!

‘He’s got a hand, open fire!’

Dwellers : Wait... This whole operation was your idea

you don't have to be born into the enclave. you can literally walk right up to Navarro and join. in fact in the two cutscenes where Frank Horigan kills someone, he gives them the option to join first. they even tried to recruit the brotherhood of steel.

Weird thing is...Vault Tec is a subsidiary of West-Tek a military contractor that is directly owned by the enclave. I think the enclave is trying to take the vaults to create a secret new US underground and it possibly already exists in parts by the time we get to the story of fallout 3. Which might explain why there are even less remnants than you would expect to see.

I have never seen that random encounter with Amata despite hundreds of hours in F3! I didn't even know it existed!

literally everyone: why do you hate us so much? Enclave: why is this creature talking to me?

I don’t want to set the world on fire I just want to start a flame in your heart

The thing I noticed on my last playthrough is that the water is more irradiated at raven rock HQ than at some random bathrooms in the wasteland, so either they don't have equipment to monitor the radioactivity of the water or they are a bunch of hypocrites.

Second time every time it’s the leaders who wanted that not the everyday troops and some generals look at autumn when he found out eden wanted to use the FEV he took control of the troops

Given the TV show’s revelations, maybe the Enclave had a bone to pick with Vault-Tec.

God bless the Enclave?

If Bethesda made that intro for Fallout 2, the fans would crucify them.

Fallout 76 vault dweller, a raider and Samuel: 🌚

The enclave has to be the evil guy so they have to do bad shit by default.

Enclave basically project this statement with every slaughter "Skulls for the skull throne. Blood for the blood god"

I think I once read that the reason the intro enclave in 2 murdered those vault dwellers was because they had misinterpreted orders though I don’t have a source for that so don’t take my words without a unusually large grain of salt

It never made any sense to me why the Enclave went around slaughtering vault dwellers when they would be the perfect candidates to help bolster the Enclave's ranks. You have hundreds- if not thousands, of citizens that wouldn't have been effected by radiation or FEV in a secure location all of which would have been in a predisposition to be loyal to the United States even if they had no idea what the United States was. The vaults would give the Enclave: -hundreds of healthy men and women to conscript into their military (even if they're just collecting from the control vaults). -A large pool of engineers, mechanics, trades personnel ect ect to draw from in order to maintain verta-birds, the oil rig, and any outpost or facility under Enclave control. -Hundreds of outposts across the country to lay footholds and reclaim the continental United States. -Countless amounts of resources in terms of salvaged electronics, GECKs, materials, and if the vault had connections with wasteland towns/villages/ect they would be able to see trade routs, learn about the best way to combat hostile tribes, where the best salvage locations are, and so much more. Like, I get that the Enclave see anyone who isn't them as "un-pure" but I mean come on, to be that fucking stupid and slaughter what could be your greatest assets is just maddening. The only reason I can think of for the Enclave to be destroying vaults and slaughtering the residents (other than the Enclave being run by complete idiots as the Fallout franchise has pretty much confirmed at this point) is that the Enclave had a vendetta against Vault Tech. Maybe Vault Tech betrayed them in some way and that was the reason why the Enclave was so hostile to vault residents or Vault Tech made it clear to them that the residents weren't human just test subjects and thus the Enclave just decided to erase Vault Tech's "experiment" using the excuse that any people in the vaults were just experiments- property and weren't necessary (Much like how the 3/5 compromise labeled African American slaves as "not really a person" and how that meant anyone of colored orgins was not considered a citizen of the United States until the 14th Amendment was passed).

New insights from the show: the Enclave wasn't at the table during the Vault-Tec meeting. Maybe they knew about the plan and are extra salty

This was just one Enclave soldier's inner thought. A Home Lander moment before it existed you could say.

You know I always wondered what happened to Amata, like I beat the game and tried to do everything and never ever found her, and this clip shows me her fate... Our souls can finally rest, Amata. R.I.P old friend.

That's just inaccurate, in Fallout 2 it's explained that they know where every vault is and they occasionally force them open and evacuate the residents. The vault residents the intro cinematic were just really unlucky, because they were not the resource the enclave was after and served no use to them.

The Enclave helmets look so goofy close up 😂

I seen one of these dudes running down a path in fallout 3. Bro was just running, didn't have a weapon etc. Never saw it again, when I followed them I got to that VR base mission thing

The Enclave who hates Super mutants and outsiders but has a Super mutant as a government guard? stupid

Weren’t the enclave the ones monitoring the vault tec experiments? Maybe they didn’t want their subjects to have free roam of the wasteland, or maybe they saw vault dwellers as potential threats. Both times the enclave got blown up it was the doing of vault dwellers. Even the ncr who cleaned things up after fallout 2 were descended from vault dwellers

As fallouts tv show came out, i bought the discounted season pass, i visited this factory the other day after meeting erikson at the plane crash and concluded that the one who wrote the terminals about grum and the group of mutants was erikson! I knew it! When you meet him he even comments on how the fog made him less violent!

I treat the brotherhood and the enclave the same, "in my sights"

long live the enclave

They are mutants we don't spare anyone

On the last note. The enclave cared little for those wastelanders' safety considering them "expendable mutants" meaning the second they outlived their usefulness the enclave would execute them

Anyone who isn't a Dalek is an enemy of the Daleks.

I wish your character could help change the enclave ideals so they aren't total genocide, and could work making into an actual government

God bless the enclave

"family waves" Bullets: "hellooooooooo"

Eugenics is crazy

The Enclave without Eden in fallout 3 would have been the best for the wasteland. I really wish the devs would allow you to side with autumn.

Enclave: *wants to kill anything that isn't them* Some fans: "I wanna join the Enclave, they seem alright."

Vault were made to get info about what would happen with other experiences, control ones seem to be for having the dwellers make hospitipal environments.

Rip Arcade Gannon my man was born into enclave but hates them

And this is why the Enclave is the best hope for the Wastelands. A good disease is a dead one.

Ironic there's so much water around control station enclave yet their gene pool is so shallow

They tried to kill me in Fallout 4, theyre all ashes now

The enclave is such a perfect parody of American exceptionalism

Legit thought that thumbnail was the Omnitrix

I really wish they would retcon that bit of lore. It makes no sense for the mutant-hating Enclave to eliminate the only other groups of pure human remnants. The Vaults could very easily have been the foundations for an Enclave rebuilding of America, instead Bethesda needed "scary bad guy faction" and made them kill innocents for no reason.

Enclave: Let’s preserve the American way. Also the Enclave: Let’s poison the water supply.

Me in fallout 4 getting hunted by them every chance they get

Fallout 2's intro is by far the best short intro I have seen for any game. Anyone got suggestions of similar? No such thing as better though and will be impossible to convince me of such.

When the supermutants are more tolerant than post apocalyptic WASPs...

The show does this ideology really well

what I think in Fallout 2 is that before the shooting , there is a part not shown, probably the Overseer refusing to send Dwellers to the Enclave and the Enclave just killed them because of that (just like those farners)

= All that does is creates enemies. Even the Brotherhood doesn’t go on a killing spree. They need recruits or peoples resources.

Don’t care didn’t ask, Enclave supremacy.

They hate human beings, specially those not wearing their power armor.

i always figured they just shot the ones in the door as intimidation.

So Hitler version on fallout lore.

"Omg I hate Bethesda so much for ruining the Enclave and making them one-dimensional villians and cookie cutter bad guys! Obsidian and Interpley made them so intriguing snd complex f*ck Bethesda! 🤬🤬🤬" I'm tired of factions like the Enclave and the Legion having their potential squandered as cookie cutter bad guys while the NCR and Brotherhood are portrayed as do-no-wrong cookie cutter good guys. The next fallout game needs to take notes on giving more sides to their factions than just "good vs evil". So muxh potential wasted.

I actually didn’t know about the enclave killing vault dwellers, this is interesting. Thanks for posting man! God bless you :)

I feel like they were scared of what knowledge the vault dwellers may have retained

They aren’t mutants tho and should be considered American people

Lazy ass writing tbh. "Ohhhh the enclave are the big bad"

Enclave: Fuck mutants! Frank Horrigan: (a literal intelligent behemoth of a mutant) **exist** Enclave: Except that guy, he's chill!

Almost done with my first fallout 1 play through. Excited to start two

because the writers want the enclave to be "bad guys" despite the fact that they are the most morally righteous faction so they make them cartoonishly evil in ways that contradict their warrior spirit

Because they didn't line up in a ordinary fashion.

Family: hello we come in peac- *Gets shot 5000 times

because todd howard needs a villian

Government moment

Speaking of a certain vault dweller. General, another settlement needs your help!!!

Now fallout 4, where they now terrorize the Commonwealth

And this is why you always kill the Enclave and take their loot

Lets say if they found the courier they be regretting there choices

That's why i like the Minutemen,the cause, the style, the "ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP, I'LL MARK IT ON YOUR MAP", The radio freedom, cool but i specifically like the scene they shoot down the Prydwen, Minutemen vs Enclave has gotta happen one day...

*me hunting down all enclave in all of the fallout series* They have good reason to have their sights set on us

They’re like the scarlet crusade

Omega releases the Zillo beast, probably uses the beast control that Ventress tried to teach her to keep it from hurting the rest of the batch, while convincing it to destroy the base

Now with some show context, it would be interesting to explore any connections between the Enclave and Vault-Tec.

God that intro to the enclave is terrifying..

Every vault had experiments knowing the enclave they probably know about most of the experiments and what do you do with experiments that are no longer useful you destroy them

People exists. Enclave: if you are not with me then you are my enemy

they didn't wear their safety goggles

Oh it turns out vault-tech has many reasons for the enclave to want to wipe out anyone in vaults

They thought first guy was waving a gun. Obviously. 🔥 🔫 😅

That when I feel at 7 second mark every time I wake up

Enclave Forever and anything else is dust!

It helps a lot with how many vault dwellers were experimented on

I don’t think his parents cared enough about him to give him speech therapy.

I started a FO3 playthrough a few days ago so ill look out for the amata event. Ive never seen it before.

Fierce glitterkitty

In 3, Autumn and his men were just trying to do the same thing as the BoS, bring water to the wasteland. Eden was nuts, but the rest of the Enclave are just people in 3.

Curie the animatronic human takes this notes and help with Vault wanderer.