the new steam players have already left the game… they released it on steam like a month or two ago and for a week and a half the servers were almost always full of players to the point that nobody could join games, and the player count hit an all time high of 4,000 something like that. 3 or so weeks ago, the playerbase died down by a few thousand players. maybe ea will notice how much better gw2 has been performing than bfn ever did, but honestly i think that’s being a bit optimistic

GW2 was extremely fun - the lobby has so much to do, there was secret content to unlock like Torchwood and Hovergoat, and it still had the unique variants, but BFN had some really out there ideas which I wouldn’t mind seeing in some kind of GW3. I liked the idea of the Swarm class (never played it, but it looked really interesting), the combo classes are an interesting idea, and… didn’t they have new characters on the way or something?

How to get people to come back to your old game: *Make the sequel worse*

Dropped in here just to say this game is a masterpiece.

Based off of this game getting updated, I hope that they pay attention to games such as PVZ2 and PVZ heroes. PVZH has a large fanbase and it needs an update or new cards to keep the fanbase engaged

Battle for neighborVille had some good things about it but overall garden warfare was much better. Wizard was really fun to play as but not against.

I hope that this release on steam means that gw2 will start getting new updates. It’s unlikely, but I can hope.

It's a shame bfn was so bad, I liked the new characters, but it just wasn't worth playing outside the story mode imo (and even then it wasn't that good).

The community would be in a whole different situation if the release order was BFN, GW, and then GW2

This game needs a revive, it’s too good to let die. It’s my damn childhood. It’s Overwatch BUT FUN! (OW is good competitively it’s hard for me to just have fun in it). This video encapsulated this pretty well (but you do repeat some stuff so it could use a bit of polishing, other than that it’s really good.)

I really feel like BFN made us all realize how good GW2 was. At least for me, I got back into GW2 after BFN was such a disappointment. I really hope that we get a game that has some of the balance changes from BFN, but keeps all the good stuff from GW2

Already 6 years? Man I hope this game franchise makes a comeback. I've played almost all the pvz games.

I am HOPING that they continue the shooters and ya made me hyped!

I don't want them to make 3 they are so out of touch with what made them great just like the rest of the gaming industry and EA fired the main creator of gw2 If i was working for them I would just update gw2 and the player base would come back strong if they add more more shit and doing community events and new maps new modes and bring everything offline too and see how that goes for a while then make gw3 after a few years more people would buy the game and bring new people to game its not that hard to understand what the community want for the game

FunFact: PopCap planned on eventually adding new game modes and character variants to BFN, but EA saw it was failing (even though it’s been 3 months) and decided to take control over it and introduced micro transactions instead and abandoned it. FunFact#2: PopCap was celebrating GW1 hiring 8Million players…..then EA came in and told them to stop showing support to that game. FunFact#3: EA abandoned GW2 simply because they saw the community was happy how the game was….then they proceeded to nerf crap and get rid of community challenges and boss hunts just to dip and work on a worse game.

This is literally one of my favorite third person shooters of all time, honestly.

I just want the fun game modes to come back like dino vs cats, boss hunt, soil survivors, battle of exploding hero’s and etc. that’s all I want like at least add them even if it’s solo play

I hope GW2 gets revived because it was the first real online game I ever played and is pretty special to me. I’d love to see it return.

The problem with battle for neighborville is fight system, it feels so weird and that you can also now sprint with character. Also I like the charakter designs from GW2 way more.

GW2 and GW have always been the better quality, more hyped, and all-around more loved games. I think what really drove people away, including myself, from BFN, was the fact that they removed most of the things that made GW2 and GW so amazing. What REALLY drove me away though is the removal of variants. I just want to play Snow Peashooter, is that too much to ask!?!? I also found the storyline for BFN really... boring.

Id love to see if they somehow fused gw and gw2 together because i love the older graphics made it have a feel as if the plants were more realistic and the maps OH the maps

I hope EA makes a new Garden Warfare game and bring the BFN characters to it since the characters were cool and the variants could really make things interesting.

If GW1 and GW2 are revived like a lot on Xbox, I’m gonna start playing Hard and Crazy Mode on each of them no matter what players they are. I’m glad this game is “being revived by EA”.

I wouldn't exactly call it reviving, a few weeks before it was announced for Steam I played for a few hours over the course of a couple days, and the lobbies were still active (at least the server I was in)

I still wish they would bring back GW1. Obviously 2 is better, but 1 has a great style and great maps, and I just wish they'd combine the best parts of the two.

Gw2 was absolutely legendary, i been a pvz fan ever since i was 6 after playing OG Pvz and I’m glad a fun game is somewhat getting more popular again. Though BFN is garbage, they removed variants etc. and EA stopped developing it which they should have.

I genuinely don’t remember why I subscribed to you, but I’m glad I did. This was an interesting discussion.

As someone who loves PvZ and shooters, one of my biggest wishes is to experience these games before they die. Never got my hands on a XB1/PS4 or any gaming PC these past years.

great video and much info across the subject

I’ve had my personal thoughts about each game and here’s some of them 1. I like the online lobby thing,but I really love garden warfare 2’s lobby. 2. I dislike certain character variants I loved being gone,including berry peashooter,lime cactus. 3. I love the swarm class idea.

Very neat and organized video I enjoyed. You got a new sub 😎

I came up with a pvz game with full voice acting called plants vs zombies vangaurd, it's like a turn based combat were you can play as a plant or zombie, it reintroduces some of the old gw characters like captian smasher, sasquach, pumpkin squash, and hypnosis flower, as well as many of the old variants

I wish they could take some of the best features from neighborville (the sprinting option, the new characters, and other things), slap some variants onto the new characters, and add them to GW2

gw2 is a masterpiece thanks

I love these games. Even BFN. I actually got the platinum in that one. I play either that or GW2 almost every day. The steam release gave me hope, so let's keep our appendages crossed!

you know, pvz shooters were amazing until bfn, like i guess it might be milking it but bfn was like, milking terribly cause they got rid of so much of the good things like the variants and just tossed the balancing out the window, the game didn't die cause people were getting tired of pvz shooters, it was cause the game was awful in comparison with the 2 much better shooters

please dont be a ea bad popcap good person

I had such a good time in gw2 its really devastating to hear from ea that they dont see a future for it, but otherwise i am happy to hear that people still play this game after such a long time

great video man you have just earned a new sub

Love the vid good and informational

I think the shooter games would have absolutely skyrocketed for PVZ if they made BFN in a similar style to GW2 like making it look similar and keeping variants, the character upgrade system and the sticker packs but also adding features like giddy park and the campaign maps like town centre and dreadwood forest

I'm glad PvZ BFN is getting a upgrade again! Can't wait to play and do more things!

Garden Warfare 2 was my childhood. All I want is to replay the game like it was before.

Plants versus zombies garden warfare, two is one of my favourite games of all time I have been playing it consistently for years. I really hope they update it and add things like new characters and more customisation just as long as that doesn’t mean micro transactions Galore

GW2 was peak PVZ I loved this game to pieces Sad to see it die down like this. I would cry with Joy if it ever returned

They messed up by not having enough servers so people left due to not being able to get into servers, now in Australia there are no active lobbies :/

Seeing the GW1 footage reminded me of my days playing the game on the PS3, being horrible. I never realized how much… darker(in a lighting way) the game was in comparison to GW2(or bfn for that matter)

I hope this opportunity to see GW2, an older game compared to PVZ 3 and BFN, is doing better than the other two combined despite being a 6 year old game will make Popcap look back and revive other games in the PVZ franchise. I was a bit unlucky because I bought the gme on origins at that same discount, but Steam is just much more superior of a launcher overall anyways. For me personally, the game is amazing up until you hit multiplayer. As an asian, I found absolutely 0 players on any gamemode whatsoever, and have to switch to other servers, where the ping is so bad it's almost unplayable. But it is still fun. I also think PVZ Heroes was awesome and should get a revive. I mean I even made fanfiction of the game 6 years ago before I stopped, the game has surprisingly big potential for lore drops.

i dont think their shutting the servers down for a few more years because they just released the port so this atleast can show that the servers will atleast be up for a few more years

I waiting for your dive into pvz shooters video 😃

I really want community challenges and different mystery portals as I joined the game a bit before you made this video. It's really difficult to get legendaries without the final community challenge reward. I watch Wolfy Playz, and I share a lot of his opinions on the game. I would love to play Soil Survivors.

9:06 VENEZUELA NOOOOO!

Even if it's now just a small influx of new players, I do think it's nice that I won't see a hacker every game I join

It's... Getting revived...? Finally, my favorite game for a long time Good to see ya back

I really want them to update PVZ BFG more, there's sooo much potential for it now!

GW2 is such a great game probably one of my top 5 games

It would be amazing for a new pvz shooter to come out! I enjoy all the games, but the shooters are my favorite of the bunch. I personally enjoyed bfn but would rather a potential new game be more similar to garden warfare. Here's to hoping EA sees just how successful a new pvz shooter could be!

I'm surprised I can still find full GvG lobbies in PvZ:GW1. Not that I'm complaining.

The only thing I didn’t like abou BFN was that they removed the variant of each class. I miss the vampire flower and alien flower variants.

I liked garden warfare 1 more personally but garden warfare 2 has so much more to do overall I think

Yeah no. This game is most definitely near the end of its life cycle. The only thing left is the servers.

This aged soo well

Wait what? I actually just started playing this again this week, can't believe there is a video about it lol. To me Garden Warfare 2 was like CoD:MW2, a timeless classic I'm always happy to go back to

i came back to pvz gw 2 and its a blast, its great to see people on the game again

If they do a third game (which I doubt they will but I hope to God they will) I hope the cosmetics are better, that’s one of the few things gw2 did worse then the other two games

This got sooo popular GREAT JOB!!!!!

The only downside of it being released on steam is if this game doesn’t get anymore updates us console players can never play the turf takeover again without having to go into mixed mode

I know most don't believe a gw3 happening after BFN, and that's honesty the smarter mindset to have due to how unrealistic it is, but things like this make me like to believe 3-5 years down the line they announce one, I like to imagine how it would go down.

This is totally off topic but The first 2 games especially the first one to me felt like playing tf2 It wasn't a sweaty shooter ye it had its sweaty players but the game was fun there would sometimes have that tf2 moment were both teams would just do random shit and for young me it was a blast And i remember that (some years ago) ppl on the xbox were still getting full lobbys on the first game while in the second half full on a good day It was most of my early teen and late childhood to go game its a damn good gam Edit: oh and not to mention this game has a huge brasilian following somehow I still think it does?

God the nostalgia of gw1 having a fully royal peashooter just running around having fun in the unique game

7:21 lmfao if this was actually true i wouldnt find 6 completely full lobbies in a row in only one region

I think you should increase the video audio

People trash on battle for neighborville way too much dude 😒

Mate this has to become the team fortress 2 for EA. A Game that refuses to die

The only reason no one’s playing it is because there’s no updates they need to realise that

please be let there be a new plants vs zombies shooter game. plants vs zombies battle for neighborville is the worst 3rd shooter game EA has ever made. plants vs zombies garden warfare and plants vs zombies garden warfare 2 are the best shooter games EA has ever made.EA needs to make a new better plants vs zombies shooter game. is EA ever going to ever make a new plants vs zombies shooter game?

Literally stop blaming ea for everything. It was popcap who developed the pvz shooters and made all the in-game decisions NOT ea

BFN just goes to show they had tons of potential with GW2 to make it even better like GW2 did with GW1, but just took out some of the best parts and added in unnecessary stuff instead. As legendary as GW2 is (I’ve nearly maxed out two accounts, lol) it still has some improvements that I’m sure anyone could see that could be made. Notably, glitches and balance changes. I just wish BFN could’ve taken this direction instead. While I doubt the shooters, or PvZ as a whole, has much of a future, it’s telling that they chose to revive the game somewhat by putting it on steam. And yes, EA doesn’t care much for a dead game that’s highly loved as it doesn’t make them much money. But they might be able to see through the failure of BFN and see a dedicated player base on GW2 still remaining, probably forever. Seeing the downgrade and negativity on some of PvZs latest work is unfortunate, but I still think they can turn things around. Even if they continue with the BFN and PVZ3 kind of art style, they can still make some good games, I’m sure of it. So while the future of the shooters isn’t clear, I don’t think it’s impossible to see something come of it. I’m still here with all of you guys

If this game gets updated its gonna be crazy.

I'm still playing this game, it's fantastic.

I'm sad that nobody likes bfn because.... it's my favorite game of the series, you can call me crazy but it's true

SO THAT'S WHY THERE WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE! (you can skip this part if you want, is just for context) When i obtained my Xbox, like 4 years ago, i sold my retro consoles in order to afford a single triple A game with the console... I decided by PvZ GW2... What i coincider, one of my best investments... That game bringed so many good times to me. I keept playing until around 3 or 6 months after Tales of the Taco, since i was moving and didn't had much time to play, February of this year i managed to organize my things, but one of my beloved ones passed away, so, i picked up the Xbox to feel better. A few weeks ago, i plugged in my external memory to the console, subscribed to Gamepass and saw the game on the library. I opened the game. The multiplayer portal was working pretty fast. Until now, i was confused about why, the last thing i knew was that some bot named Dave was reproducing a pre-made list of monthly events, i now have better understanding about the situation, thanks! I really hope they re-anounce community events, mistery portal weekly and Halloween/Holyday updates, if they don't, I'm happy if the community keeps the game alive!.

The best PvZ Garden Warfare game was the original. I still sometimes go back and play it if I'm bored.

Deserved sub. Good vid.

wait i never knew pvz bfn is free i mean i buy the game from a shady online store for 60$ becouse i dont have gamestop in Indonesia that are close to my area

hey what is that documentary type video you're showing? i looked for something like that an couldnt find anything

If garden warfare 3 was a thing i always wanted like more collab variants like cheetos and aquafina i even drew a marvel based collab as a kid with an all star variant called hulk star and a pea variant called spider pea

this didnt age well

They probably just want money, it's ea

Imagine Gaming Companies would stop to change things randomly without any reason to something that 80% of the Playef Base dont like. I cant fucking understand where the problem is???

Nice video,there is only one problem,since when did EA ever develop any pvz game?

Getting rid of subclasses was one of the worst parts, also there's bare exploration, BFN was a flop, Popcap needs to go to old roots and take ideas from their player base, and cut EA out

Gw2 is the most nostalgic and best game ever.

This game will always be a gem and I hope that they make GW3 one day…

this aged very well

I liked every comment like a psychopath.

They are not reviving this game

I really hope they bring actual workable and functional mods with the steam workshop like with what happened for origin

I grew up on GW2 and was heartbroken when my account lost internet and I forgot my psn password (yes I play on ps4) . I put more than a year into that game and was only missing 1 achievement before I had all of them...

I play on ps5, I played gw1 years ago and I’m just now getting around to the second one. I pray this game revives because I’ve been loving it