Why English Class is Silencing Students of Color | Jamila Lyiscott | TEDxTheBenjaminSchool

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What if someone told you that the way you use language every day had the power to disrupt or uphold social injustice? Language is saturated with history and culture and memory, yet the way that it is policed within our classrooms and our communities is deeply connected to racism and colonialism. Viral TED speaker, spoken word poet, and social justice education scholar Dr. Jamila Lyiscott makes a powerful argument that, to honor and legitimize all students, we must, likewise, legitimize and honor all of their varied forms of written and spoken discourse, practicing "Liberation Literacies" in the classroom. Jamila Lyiscott is currently a visiting assistant professor of Social Justice Education at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. Coupled with this appointment, Jamila is a Cultivating New Voices fellow within NCTE’s research foundation and was recently named a Senior Research Fellow of Teachers College, Columbia University’s Institute for Urban and Minority Education (IUME).
Across these spaces, her research, teaching, and service focus on the intersections of race, language, and social justice in education. Recently awarded a Fulbright-Hays Group Project Abroad grant, Jamila also serves a spoken word artist, community organizer, consultant and motivational speaker locally and internationally. Her scholarship and activism work together to prepare educators to sustain diversity in the classroom, empower youth, and explore, assert, and defend the value of Black life. As a testament to her commitment to educational justice for students of color, Jamila is the founder and co-director o This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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@kristihart3319
@kristihart3319 Жыл бұрын
As a white educator, I think every teacher needs to hear this message. We try to be inclusive, yet we’re products of “the system” as well. I had no idea correcting someone dropping the “to be” verb was a hit on culture. I want all my students to feel welcome in my classroom, but I’m learning every day how far I still need to go. I teach AP classes and it’s really frustrating that I know their AP essays will be graded through white eyes. I have so much more to learn.
@jbrent6842
@jbrent6842 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you understand and empathize with what she is sharing is makes you a great teacher. I bet if you're transparent with your students they will appreciate you even more.
@rebeccasavage-owens9183
@rebeccasavage-owens9183 10 ай бұрын
You do know that AP exams are scored by people of varied ethnicity, right? And that a rubric is used to determine the score.
@bigdaddy3621
@bigdaddy3621 2 ай бұрын
It's important for the students to know the grading criteria as well. Code switching is a sign of intelligence.
@judykinuthia3181
@judykinuthia3181 2 жыл бұрын
What a powerful presentation! I especially connected with the lion and man story because I have always understood history to be told through the perspective of the people at the table! As the lion asks, who drew the picture? Who makes the decisions and why? I grew up in post colonial Kenya (born 1962 pre independence) and the rules still applied especially in Catholic schools! If we spoke our mother tongue (mine being Gikuyu) we were severely punished as she says by wearing a sign around our necks, or kneeling on small pebbles for hours on end! OMG, I just realized why my knees are so sensitive!!! Oooo, must bring this up in therapy, wow!! Ngugi Wa Thiongo is one of my favorite authors and he is also Kenyan and Gikuyu! He was my hero growing up as I aspired to be a revolutionary just like him! He was banned in Kenya and I did not read his books until I came to the US to go to college in 1983! Thank you so much for this talk, I needed it this morning! Be well Jamila!
@Anju876
@Anju876 4 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how Ted Talks on these topics have so few views when they're a gold mine of knowledge. Its not your typical feel good motivational Ted Talk but understanding the people you live with (other races) helps break and erases ignorance. Then again a talk on language and dialect might not be for everyone, but being Jamaican I could immediately relate to her early example of how you have to change the way you talk in certain circles as it affects the way your perceived. There's so much to say on these vids but man did she bring her point across well.
@teachatami45
@teachatami45 3 жыл бұрын
Immediately my heart leapt.
@rhoniwinston9970
@rhoniwinston9970 3 жыл бұрын
To Jamaicans, you think you are not in the same boat as ADOS. Think again! You were colonized into British rule. You may be sovereign, but you cane to the United States to make a better life for yourselves off the backs if ADOS!
@kosmique
@kosmique 3 жыл бұрын
I'm bilingual and biracial so this was interesting
@achayootto4221
@achayootto4221 3 жыл бұрын
We can all relate. Not just Jamaicans.
@ninnikins4768
@ninnikins4768 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@discerninggroup6181
@discerninggroup6181 4 жыл бұрын
Best talk I've listened to. In Nigeria, the more complex your spoken or written English is, the smarter you are perceived to be.🤔.
@MegaDiva1999
@MegaDiva1999 4 жыл бұрын
anywhere in the English colonised world. Our French colonised family in Senegal, Togo, Mali etc would say the same and we can extend that to Martinique, Guadelope and the say the same about the Portuguese occupied world...
@joeyfischler1031
@joeyfischler1031 4 жыл бұрын
This is also the same in the UK though? I am from the UK and I live in Austria, and it is also very true here. I don't deny there is perhaps a colonial aspect, but it is also easily observable in uncolonised countries.
@abdulraheem415
@abdulraheem415 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same way in Cairo...They laugh at you if u speak Arabic correctly, but if you are heard speaking English they automatically assume that you come from a wealthy family and give you respect?
@rashmirajshekhar8806
@rashmirajshekhar8806 4 жыл бұрын
Same situation in India as well... if you speak fluent English, you’re automatically considered smart, sadly... it’s going to take a lot of critical thought and education like this to overcome the colonial mindsets
@eddierocksteady5740
@eddierocksteady5740 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jamila Lyuscott...disrupt the traditional notion of what it means to Read and Write. Invest in under standing ways of Teaching-Learning interactivity.
@zoefloreus7066
@zoefloreus7066 4 жыл бұрын
She's right, but silly standardized testing has ruined our ability as educators to incorporate this into our lessons. My students would fail the STAAR test if they were allowed to freely write and represent themselves through their writing. I might find it beautiful, but standardized testing would fail the essay.
@transparentsunflower8295
@transparentsunflower8295 4 жыл бұрын
So give them times to free write and simply express using whatever language they naturally use as long as they understand that when it comes to tests and graded essays they have to use the institutionally accepted english.
@zoefloreus7066
@zoefloreus7066 4 жыл бұрын
@@transparentsunflower8295 I do. I'm a reading teacher, so I have that indepence to allow free writing. They love it! ❤
@ajwalker4416
@ajwalker4416 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, those tests exist as a way to reward those who comply and punish those who do not. It really doesn't care the reasons or the value, just complying with the "standard" as defined by those creating the test. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@zoefloreus7066
@zoefloreus7066 4 жыл бұрын
@@ajwalker4416 exactly!
@Rchelle_YAHsdaughter
@Rchelle_YAHsdaughter 4 жыл бұрын
Standardized testing has a very intentional agenda.
@KayeKreates
@KayeKreates 4 жыл бұрын
This deserves more attention
@musicsoul2595
@musicsoul2595 4 жыл бұрын
Fi real!
@ReallyDebora
@ReallyDebora 4 жыл бұрын
MHM!!
@smartisaac5997
@smartisaac5997 4 жыл бұрын
Not too long in the 80s when u speak your language either you being flogged or being paid
@kimc.7689
@kimc.7689 3 жыл бұрын
More attention from our people especially!!
@copperindividual5755
@copperindividual5755 3 жыл бұрын
@Michael Sweeney Most white people are speaking ebonics these days they love to copy blacks. Culture Vultures
@Daya1828
@Daya1828 3 жыл бұрын
That last part!!!!! “If we do not have social just practice in the silence then we cannot have social justice in our world”. Very well said...what a way to use all the skills she spoke about in an all encompassing presentation. Very inspiring!! Soul out!!!!
@wakawakaqueen
@wakawakaqueen 4 жыл бұрын
Correction... Ngugi wa Thiong’o is from Kenya 🇰🇪 in East Africa.
@winnieg7874
@winnieg7874 4 жыл бұрын
Was coming to the comments to say the same thing.
@evangelinewangari1124
@evangelinewangari1124 4 жыл бұрын
And I'm from Kenya what a coincidence 🤔🤔
@magangajoy
@magangajoy 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Kenyans here in support
@annoorganization8416
@annoorganization8416 3 жыл бұрын
Myy favorite Novel was Weep Not Child by Ngugu Wa'Thiongo I am from West Africa
@irisaida4680
@irisaida4680 3 жыл бұрын
Yap. He is definitely Kenyan and NO we are not West African.
@simonevicarimoore
@simonevicarimoore 4 жыл бұрын
She is so tapped in. Go Jamila! Don't ever stop speaking my sistah.
@cozecoze1
@cozecoze1 2 жыл бұрын
*sister
@dionsanchez4478
@dionsanchez4478 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you spelling sister that way? Not standard or accurate. Somethings are not subjective.
@simonevicarimoore
@simonevicarimoore 2 жыл бұрын
@@dionsanchez4478 I spell sistah that way, to leave out of the conversation, the people who insist that there is only one way to spell the word "sister". In other words, I'm not talking to you. Is it ok for people to exist who are not addressing you?
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
@SIMONE VICARI MOORE Ok, that's cool. There are all kinds of different groups who develop their own lingo, oftentimes with one of the express purposes being that it be a sort of code, intended to be understood by only those who are members of the same group. E.g. teenagers of every generation have done this to an exceptional degree. But I've never heard of any of them requesting that their private lingo be accepted in place of proper English in the classroom. I gotta hand it to ya - that's pretty ballsy. Power to the people!
@simonevicarimoore
@simonevicarimoore Жыл бұрын
@@guitarjunkie2065 By "proper" English do you mean standard English? Are you arguing that dialects are formed for the purpose of ostracising other groups? Are dialects private lingo?
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great warrior. For marginalized people. As great as any on horse with sword. >> 1. Who am I? Awareness >> 2. Agency/Access in the world >> 3. Actualization. >> 4. Achievement >> 5. Alteration & Action
@altareggo
@altareggo 4 жыл бұрын
This lady IS articulate!!! "Composite linguistic identity" is NOT a concept i would have thought of myself, lol. That said, she makes a LOT of really good points: language is routinely used as a "filter" or judgmental tool to help people discriminate against "the other" - those not like us, so they need to put in their place when necessary, and more or less ignored otherwise. My parents always told me that the way i talked, the way i use language could considerably help me in life. As a result, i strove to be articulate, to learn new words whenever they came my way, and to learn at least a bit of as many "jargons" or specialized linguistic subsets as possible - physicists, mathematicians, doctors, carpenters, sailors... every major trade has a distinctive "argot" or collection of precisely-defined terms that are peculiar to their trade, and necessary to communicate effectively with them. That said, i now realize i was fortunate to not have had to learn to switch between basic language forms: one language at home and with many of my friends, and another kind of language in "normal, everyday" situations - at school, in the workplace, in public in general. I was surrounded 24/7 with people speaking MMCE - Mainstream Middle-class Canadian English, plus a smattering of wildly different accents (Indian, Chinese, Ukranian, Cape Bretonese, Newfoundland-speak, Scottish, Irish, and what i broadly realized was "lower class" language usage - which i never associated with "race" or ethnicity of any kind, although as in the USA, marginalized groups of people do tend to put less emphasis on learning whatever the "Standard English" of the dominant culture or ethnicity - and hence many end up making many grammatical errors or having a limited vocabulary for most of their lives... and this marks them as being "lower class", and/or as belonging to a marginalized group - which in turn impedes their progress up the Social Ladder, because their language usage stigmatizes them the moment they begin to speak!! Its a stereotypical Viscious Cycle. I think there are two main ways out of this situation: 1) "Mainstream" society must be taught from an early age to NOT stigmatize/under-value/dehumanize/discriminate against others who just happen to be different from the social norms they grew up with: we must teach both children and adults in our society to become more compassionate, more tolerant, more accepting, welcoming, and open-minded towards those who are different from the mainstream norm, and 2) The leaders (present and future) of marginalized communities should be made aware that language is much more important than many of the people in their communities realize: YES, maintaining cultural heritages is important, but it is also important to learn how to communicate effectively with the "mainstream" of the society they live in!! Children in many countries easily learn two, three or even four languages - such as in Switzerland where almost everyone is multi-lingual: its not that difficult. Each side must reach out to the other: that's the only real way it can work.
@jamedraa8472
@jamedraa8472 4 жыл бұрын
I think "eloquent" is a more appropriate description. You make some great points.
@Manno200
@Manno200 4 жыл бұрын
altareggo Exactly!!!
@pattedechat2457
@pattedechat2457 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone in Switzerland is multilingual, far from that.
@abrahamdiana9874
@abrahamdiana9874 3 жыл бұрын
I skimmed your comment, and I strongly agree. We should definitely cherish the original and proper languages for the future generations to come, it's how we pass down principles and morals, it's how we will retain our stories, definitions and be able to interpret appropriately. I love the uniqueness of every culture and language.
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
@Abraham Diana I agree with you. But just to be clear, that does NOT mean that I don't think I should have to be able to speak properly the language of the country that I'm in. ESPECIALLY if I've grown up in that country! And also, again to be clear, the only language in her talk that is an original and traditional carrier of culture and its norms, etc, is English. What she is arguing for acceptance of is substituting Ebonics, which is not even a dialect, really - what it is is a very poorly learned and spoken English, a form which is traditional to no one, and which carries with it nothing traditional, nothing in fact but that it is a lot of what impoverished children will have been hearing in their homes and neighbourhoods.
@janbarstow
@janbarstow 4 жыл бұрын
A standard of mastery and excellence is NOT violence! Rather, depriving youth of the knowledge and tools to advance would be injustice. Youth can both embrace their home linguistics AND ADD what will move them forward in the broader world. For example, my English teacher forced me to diagram sentences in Latin, which made me a powerful and accomplished communicator in many fields; my publicly educated peers lacked that advantage and remained among the common. What I am requesting is that educators NOT 'paradigm shift' down in the name of Social Justice -- that would be anything but 'just'. Rather Raise the Bar while accepting the wholeness of who they are :)
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
@Veritasss Very well said! I have always been sorry about the fact that in my family, specifically my mother's side, no one in my or my mom's generations can speak the language of our ancestors. This was due to a conscious, deliberate decision on the part of my grandparents, who themselves WERE fluent in both English and their original language. They did this because although they did preserve and pass on family history, they wanted more than anything for their children to be fully assimilated as Americans first and foremost. To have available to them all of the opportunities this country could have to offer, including avoidance of the prejudice to which they themselves had been subjected, which was not insubstantial. And it worked. My mom and her siblings are all light-enough skinned that without any accent either, there's nothing that would cause anyone meeting them to think they were anything but ordinary middle-class Americans. They all enjoyed all the trappings of middle-class success. I'm just sorry about the language having been lost - but I understand and respect my grandparents' decision.
@ren0frances
@ren0frances Ай бұрын
I think you completely missed the point, pal.
@DJ71867
@DJ71867 4 жыл бұрын
They don't like our culture but they sure making money with our culture.
@alansands256
@alansands256 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of like those who brag about their advanced degrees,yet have nothing but contempt for the Western Culture who created institutions such as The University and democracy.
@herovids1197
@herovids1197 4 жыл бұрын
@@alansands256 wow... and we share the same surname!
@herovids1197
@herovids1197 4 жыл бұрын
They love our culture, they don't even hate us... they simply need us to be as they define us for their continued oppression of us so they can gain from the use of us!
@abdulraheem415
@abdulraheem415 4 жыл бұрын
What she is saying made my day! I teach elementary school kids and I hear them use AA slang in front of me but they dont use it in front of white teachers....we need to study this subject more.
@CassandraMSmith
@CassandraMSmith 4 жыл бұрын
@@herovids1197 Wooooooow! You spoke a word, right there!
@JacksonCaesar
@JacksonCaesar Жыл бұрын
English is my second language but I teach Spanish. Too often my students question many of the words and phrases. What I continue to explain is that I teach based on what is found in literacy, not on the streets. Like many cultures, it's pretty much the same things we face in English. Great awareness and presentation.
@Lybido
@Lybido 3 жыл бұрын
I've thought about all of this over the years. I'm glad someone brought it to light. I've been told since grade school "Oh you speak so well" or ridiculed by my family "You talk like a white boy." And even though I don't always articulate in standard English, I have noticed that people/groups, etc that aren't representative of PoC have put constant variation and copular absence (and others) to use for monetary gain.
@riettarichardson9485
@riettarichardson9485 Жыл бұрын
As a product educated individuals from yesteryear my generation was taught grammar and etiquette in the home and would be quickly corrected if we spoke incorrectly! My grandmother, aunts and uncles are surely frowning in their graves due to this Hip Hop Generation!!!
@dahnajeen
@dahnajeen 3 жыл бұрын
Dropping the final 'g' is part of my original speech dialect too - I code switch between informal small-town/country (some would say hick) and more formal standard speech. Eatin, runnin', talkin', lovin', etc. are the pronunciations that come naturally to me, and others who grew up in my (very White small town) culture. I understand and appreciate African American vernacular as a legitimate dialect with its own grammar - NOT incorrect speech, and I do not "correct" it, but honor it in my English classroom. I found very enlightening the section on this in "The Language Instinct" by Steven Pinker. Not disputing anything she's saying at all - I know she knows more than I do about this. Except that final "g' thing. That's definitely not just an African American speech thing. It's a country thing. I'm glad to be out of that small, very White town for many years and enjoy the rich, diverse culture I live and teach in now.
@sifisotwalamedia
@sifisotwalamedia 4 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. I feel very liberated as a South African. Living in Kasi(township).
@hlempheabielsemelane3358
@hlempheabielsemelane3358 4 жыл бұрын
Even here in south Africa English is to determine how bright u are. Colonialism and racism
@emelyathesimpleton125
@emelyathesimpleton125 4 жыл бұрын
@@teleologicalanalysis5291 Thank you
@msmoorad123
@msmoorad123 4 жыл бұрын
maybe what u say is true for English as a subject, but what about maths etc? it doesnt matter what language u teach it in- it wont make a difference- u either get it or u dont
@hlempheabielsemelane3358
@hlempheabielsemelane3358 4 жыл бұрын
@@msmoorad123 it's like if you are fluent in English then u are brighter which is not true many cases
@msmoorad123
@msmoorad123 4 жыл бұрын
@@hlempheabielsemelane3358 i agree with that
@jtillamane900
@jtillamane900 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. English!
@abrahamdiana9874
@abrahamdiana9874 3 жыл бұрын
I love language, it's how we've evolved to what we are today. The 1 most common trait of successful people is having a vast vocabulary. Not being able to articulate ideas to other people has a much larger impact on our lives than we could ever imagine.
@seanmason4679
@seanmason4679 4 жыл бұрын
She is very passionate. Great presentation.
@bandotaku
@bandotaku 4 жыл бұрын
@jay She's not angry, don't say that. She's speaking professionally.
@vernaharris4700
@vernaharris4700 3 жыл бұрын
She is definitely passionate.
@HunterHerne
@HunterHerne 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is right. I know of other historical examples where language was used to differentiate the rich from the "common", even. Vernacular is wonderful and important. Language shapes the world. But I can't divorce myself from the concept of academic English, both written and spoken, being an important thing to learn for anyone who does communicate in English. The same is true for other languages, as well. What is taught in French or Japanese classes is the general rules, not the vernacular. It's easier to communicate when the rules of any language are followed. That's just my thoughts on it though. Language is always changing within cultures. The rules won't, sometimes can't, always be followed. But the rules taught in the classroom do make it easier to communicate if everyone knows the same basics.
@dr.cristinajames6783
@dr.cristinajames6783 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that all languages be honored in the academic classroom so that Dominant American English and the critical essay are as privileged as the vernacular voices of our students. I believe that Dr.Lyiscott's talk suggests that she too believes this. Great comment!
@joanntebo2835
@joanntebo2835 4 жыл бұрын
It is important in all forms of education and discourse that we acknowledge the roles, and powerr, of the formal, the common informal and the close knit group vernacular and how these are inter-woven in our discourse. It is difficult to express these well unless you have inhabited them each enough to practice and validate their respective strengths. Our first reactions to these may be disconcerting due to their unfamiliarity, but that does not reduce their strength. Here in the discussion, the five point essay, while somewhat disrespected, still formed the framework for the alliterative A's of the central message. The less formal speech added the vibrancy and drive to the talk. It all ebbed and flowed in a beautiful pursuit of purpose. This is what we must share with the student. The power lies in the ability to use each well.
@marylamb7707
@marylamb7707 4 жыл бұрын
HunterHerne Yes. We all have more than one version we speak. Professional With friends In personal intimate If one goes into a bank with a large deposit to open an account. The money earned with sweat, many hours of very hard work. If the teller and bank manager are speaking to the prospective account holder with ebonics, would the new depositor stay, or go to a bank that addresses the situation professionally? I think the McDonald's example was a poor one, because McDonald's is very casual, a place you expect the english spoken with friends. Casual.
@ladybluelotus
@ladybluelotus 4 жыл бұрын
I think some of you may have missed the point of the speech. I don't think that she is saying that non-standard English speaking students shouldn't learn to use and/or master standard English. I believe she is laying the foundation for understanding that AAVE is it's own little language, with a deep cultural history and that it may be better to teach standard English to non-standard English speakers like a foreign language. A highly useful foreign language option that allows students to succeed academically without sacrificing the self and group-esteem of the students. Fully validated people are always more cooperative and engaged than the invalidated.
@marylamb7707
@marylamb7707 4 жыл бұрын
T J I was hoping thats what she meant. I watched one video here defending ebonics as another language. To use for real. Its so important for childrens future to learn the right way Im very glad that you posted this comment.. Thank you.
@VC-fe4pl
@VC-fe4pl 3 жыл бұрын
In Italy there are hundreds of dialects due to historical reasons: geographic isolation, non-availability of education, foreign domination etc. Most Italians vehemently defend their dialect as an integral part of their local culture and rightfully so. There are dialectical theatres, music, and literature. However, dialects also have a negative aspect too. In the past, only “educated people” spoke Italian, typically only the village doctor, lawyer and priest knew and spoke Italian, everyone else spoke dialect. These days, Italians have properly interpreted their dialect as part of their culture, like their cuisine (also extremely variable). It is not used as a means of communication in the workplace, schools or hospitals etc. American “dialects” should not substitute correct English. As an international businessperson I have to continuously adjust my “English” to communicate with the person in front of me. I can’t use the same English with a person from the Czech Republic as with my drinking buddy from high school. If you want to speak Ebonics with your friends, you’re perfectly free to do that, but if you want to speak it in the corporate boardroom or write your graduation thesis in it, you’re going to have big, big, problems. “The limits of my language mean the limits of my world.” Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889-1951), Austrian philosopher
@1truek269
@1truek269 Жыл бұрын
Here in USA as well but H8ers...
@beinspired1487
@beinspired1487 Жыл бұрын
I have found that since moving to the US from the UK, I have had to limit and change the way I speak as I lose some people when using the wide vocabulary that I was brought up with. My children also found they had to adjust the way they spoke so they would fit in at school.
@omggiiirl2077
@omggiiirl2077 4 жыл бұрын
But yeah, we never left any cultural finger prints on American Culture.....people who believe that are hilarious. We are a people who always leave our mark every where we go.
@DarthVader-ci6pz
@DarthVader-ci6pz 4 жыл бұрын
Like every other people. The question is what type of mark a people leaves. Is it a lasting mark? Is it good or bad? Does the mark improve upon that which it was made.
@tellurye
@tellurye 4 жыл бұрын
Again, its NOT a contest. Its called being a human - why dont you try and focus on leaving positive marks on this world, instead of negative marks to "prove your point" ? Do something good so that when your time is up, you leave this world a little better than when you found it. The world doesnt owe us anything - it was here first.
@omggiiirl2077
@omggiiirl2077 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it's no contest, so please tell that to those who compete, diminish, try to silence, erase, appropriate and claim credit for such as yourselves. I'm pretty sure we left MANY positive cultural marks in American as well as world culture, but people such as yourselves are to busy getting sensitive and trying to minimize that which we have done and continue to do for the benefit of humankind. And before you even try it, no no one is demonizing white people or saying Europeans contributed nothing. I'm just saying that the idea that we as Africans have contributed absolutely nothing to American culture is woefully preposterous.
@tellurye
@tellurye 4 жыл бұрын
@@omggiiirl2077 What do you mean "such as yourselves" When did I ever diminish, compete, try to silence, erase you? It obviously IS a contest, because this video nor thread isnt about you, yet you took to it to show you make ONLY positive marks, and you hypocritically denied the marks of others. Double standard much?
@omggiiirl2077
@omggiiirl2077 4 жыл бұрын
@@tellurye my dear firstly, you didn't have to reply. And are we just going to sit here and pretend that you just didn't say first that it was no contest in reply to my comment, as if to be bothered by what I said? That's EXACTLY what I mean when I remarked about people such as yourselves and in your case particularly, attempting to diminish or silence me by saying "again it's not a competition". I can go on and on with perfect examples of how African Americans have started and or developed American cultural fixtures, only to have people such as yourselves, do what you do a then turn right around and act as if we are less than, a threat, good for nothing, or have nothing positive to offer a country you swear up and down us the greatest nation in the world.
@kimberlylynnboss6021
@kimberlylynnboss6021 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Wonderful talk. Thank you. Having just finished a semester teaching ESL to newcomers at a school in the mountains of North Carolina, I related much of the talk's themes to my newly arrived hispanic students - forced to take English Lit. 1 even though they barely knew the alphabet. They were demoralized every day, despite an excellent co-teacher who bent over backwards to get things translated for them. A complete waste of their time.
@tinawalker8174
@tinawalker8174 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what we need to hear and act on. You are doing an amazing job bring attention to the much needed paradigm shift. Fabulous 👏👏👏
@paulines581
@paulines581 4 жыл бұрын
She defended herself from a intellectual and academic space good for her. That's right.
@eddierocksteady5740
@eddierocksteady5740 3 жыл бұрын
She defended herself from a n intellectual and academic level, Dr. Jamila Lyiscott- disrupt the traditional notion of what it means to Read and Write. Invest in understanding ways of Teaching-Learning interactivity . Her five A's: *Awareness. *Agency and Access. *Actualization *Achievement *Alteration
@truartist5379
@truartist5379 3 жыл бұрын
An
@psycsoci
@psycsoci 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Speak it!!!
@ademcrb7539
@ademcrb7539 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddierocksteady5740 خكهنظظط
@user-cm2hn5qt4x
@user-cm2hn5qt4x 3 жыл бұрын
@@psycsoci то
@TheMwegasShow
@TheMwegasShow 4 жыл бұрын
Great ideas and robust dissection of language. Can I point out that Ngugi wa Thiong'o is actually a East African, Kenyan to be precise and of the Agikuyu Tribe
@nomihoch
@nomihoch 3 жыл бұрын
I loved what you said but I think we also have to remember that to some extent ""standard" rules can both define us and unite us. I Teach English (as a second language) and live in an environment where many of the "native" English speakers do not speak standard American English ( or spell it - colour). I also went to a school where most of the people , staff and student used a dialect which was different from what I learned at home; it was also different that the norm in America. I learned to negotiate these differences. We were taught, however the importance of being able to speak write and understand the dominant form of English (Standard American as my school was in America). This allowed me to write essays that got me into American Universities, it also means that wherever I go people say they can really understand me when I speak. I think we need to value each persons idiolangage. At the same time people also need to learn a common form of speaking which will allow then to communicate with people from other communities around the world. I also believe that accent and use of non standard language, as well as not being fluent in a language, in no way indicates lack of intelligence .
@dmillener3619
@dmillener3619 3 жыл бұрын
I, too, am an English Literature teacher @NaomiLevin and disagree with Jamila at 10:48. The 5-paragraph essay, as she noted, is not used to somehow stifle the power of student voices. The essay is not for that. Instead, it is used as a tool to determine or measure the mastery of grammar and language concepts taught in class. Everything she mentioned she loves: rhythm, poetry, and alliteration is taught in school, in an English class, so I'm sure those tools were measured somehow, most likely when she wrote to them either for a test or writing assignment. We also teach etymology and colloquial language. Creative Writing, journaling, Writers/Literature Clubs, diaries, and blogs give students ample cultural space to share their voices in whatever dialect they choose. Sometimes, teachers give them that space to express in the classroom as a timed-writing. So I wholeheartedly disagree with that assertion.
@seanblack7188
@seanblack7188 3 жыл бұрын
Sis got me after she said "what's good" had to pause the video, like and share right then and there...
@coutureleotards
@coutureleotards 3 жыл бұрын
EėIS7ar
@tinasmith5752
@tinasmith5752 4 жыл бұрын
WITH OUT ETYMOLOGY WE ARE STILL HELD IN BONDAGE.
@originalredmane1542
@originalredmane1542 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta find the root
@originalredmane1542
@originalredmane1542 4 жыл бұрын
These words or swords create worlds or whirls that spin your mind
@originalredmane1542
@originalredmane1542 4 жыл бұрын
Words are swords and used to create worlds or whirls to spin your mind
@lynxisthetruth3605
@lynxisthetruth3605 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking in our own language, not french, not spanish, not russian etc. but our own language puts us in tune with our own unique culture and ancestry. When we speak in the tongue of other people it puts us in tune with THEIR culture their ancestry. It gives power to those foreign entities to use and rule over us. Whether living or dead.
@nicolelewis6312
@nicolelewis6312 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many African languages there are?!
@hollyperrin7353
@hollyperrin7353 4 жыл бұрын
In part of your statement, you said: "[When we speak in the tongue of other people] "It gives power to those foreign entities to use and rule over us." I would agree to some extent, but also suggest that by using the language of another group, we empower ourselves within that group. As a native English speaker, I am always touched when I am abroad and someone makes the effort to speak to me in English. When I am in a country where I speak the local language, I do so. This respect that I have shown them by learning their language elevates my status within their group. It certainly doesn't imply that they are in some way using their power over me or ruling over me. The extent to which I agree with you is that English is an insidious language that, once introduced, can effectively cut out the Mother Tongue. How many Irish people speak fluent Irish Gaelic today? It's a dying language. Although English is not the sole language to be guilty of this effect.
@TheFluffyhellokitty
@TheFluffyhellokitty 3 жыл бұрын
Learning another language doesn't need to be insidious, and it isn't... until the people around you try to force you to learn or speak one specific language. That's where the true colonialism lies: forcing people to learn the rules of just one language. It's not about refusing to learn any European languages because you think it makes you feel 'more powerful' to only speak 'your language'-whichever language it is you perceive that to be; it's about insisting on learning all languages you can, including holding your mother tongue close to your heart. While English isn't inherently an African language, African American Vernacular Language-or, AAVE, formerly known as 'ebonics'- is an African dialect, and deserves to be noted, permitted, and promoted within schools from a scholarly standpoint as well as a cultural one. Nelson Mandela himself famously said, "When you speak to someone in a language he UNDERSTANDS, that goes to his head; when you speak to someone in HIS OWN language, that goes to HIS HEART." What he means is, when you're speaking with people in their second (or third, or fourth, etc) language, you are soothing their ego by doing so; but when you speak to someone in their native language, their first language, their MOTHER tongue, a certain affection and warmth can be gleaned, along with a very personal excitement, because the ego has been lost in the process. Now, instead of being just intellectual equals, you are family.
@ILoveTheGreyScale
@ILoveTheGreyScale 3 жыл бұрын
English is based on Germanic. A fairly different language. That would mean that all of the English speaking people in the US are largely not in-touch with their ancestry, except those whose ancestors are German. The Us is made up of peoples of the whole world, who come here to be a part of something special, having a common language is important to our success. Doesn't mean you can't speak in a native African tongue if you so choose to learn one. Oh but did you mean the cultural language of hip hop. Because many white kids speak that language too. Including Hispanics as well. And a side note, When in an African country, they expect you to learn the language there, and correctly so.
@pattedechat2457
@pattedechat2457 3 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveTheGreyScale "Germanic" doesn't mean "German". English is not based on German, it's related to it. Meaning they both come from the same original language, which was neither German nor English, in the same way French and Italian both come from Latin, but are distinct from each other as well as from Latin.
@tinasmith5752
@tinasmith5752 4 жыл бұрын
We Must Study And Master: E T Y M O L O G Y! ! !
@quiver3160
@quiver3160 4 жыл бұрын
Your prerogative.
@hatonx3922
@hatonx3922 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly we need universal translator device. For even with us melanated constantly creating new words and terminology, more than any other people on earth our Moore, Masonic, Ebonic... or whatever ways to perform etymology is sabotaged with our history and rediscovery of self, turning to survival being the focus. Blacks would be like many in africa speaking many languages by default, being multilingual would open cultures and trading making us again rulers of the world. U.S. natives also spoke various languages in some tribes.
@herovids1197
@herovids1197 4 жыл бұрын
This!!!
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
Um... I'm sorry, but do you know what it is that "etymology" refers to? (Sorry if that's phrased a bit awkwardly, but it seemed rude to just say "Do you know what that word means?")
@tinasmith5752
@tinasmith5752 Жыл бұрын
ETYMOLOGY: The origin and historical development of a linguistic form as shown by determining its basic elements, earliest known use and changes in form and meaning, tracing its transmission from one language to another, identifying its. Cognates in other languages, and resconstructing, its meaning ancestral form where possible. The brach of linguistics that deals with etymologies. THE "TRUE HISTORY" AND "TRUE" MEANING OF WORDS! "Modern English" is only 500 years old; and it "DOES NOT" gIve you the true history or its true meaning of words.
@jaebyrd4608
@jaebyrd4608 4 жыл бұрын
I feel this deeply.. as a law student I can not tell you how often I get a sideways look for using ebonic as if I am committing a crime by refusing to hide my blackness. There is an unspoken narrative that you owe someone for allowing you into spaces where you are not the majority especially when those spaces are intellectual spaces and as a repayment for your debts you must indoctrinate into the "norm". I am an intellectual I earned my seat just like the people I sit next to earned theirs I do not owe anyone anything the only person I have to prove anything to is myself
@maiydeloatch4945
@maiydeloatch4945 4 жыл бұрын
Jae Mason Thomas i
@RadenLLC
@RadenLLC 4 жыл бұрын
your values are corrupted.
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
@Jae Byrd You're a law student? I hope you do a better job punctuating your papers than you did in that comment. Seeing as how you do claim to be an intellectual, and all... See, I literally couldn't do that, and I do mean literally. My commas and periods go in as I'm writing. The only breaks that are sometimes an afterthought are the paragraphs - frequently, I continue a paragraph, not realizing till after the fact that it's going to be as long as it turns out to be, thus needing to be broken up. But not my sentences. Also, and most critically, it's not your blackness that is being revealed (I'm pretty sure that's already been noticed) or frowned upon. Rather, it is your inability, or more likely in this case your unwillingness, and Idk which is worse, to speak properly in an environment which so clearly calls for it. I can only hope that it is not also that in speaking Ebonically, you've been speaking with something less than the clarity and precision that are absolutely required in your chosen field.
@shirleyweissenfluh6099
@shirleyweissenfluh6099 4 жыл бұрын
your speech is powerful and many of Americans are unable to articulate and if teachers are able to help their students through the students speech...what a valuable quality and able to assist them to becoming more articulate as students:)) Wish you had been my teacher!!!
@Daya1828
@Daya1828 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh weee, that part @17:18. The 4th A for achievement: autonomy in rigorous powerful standards for students to show up in the aims of diversity and equity. The institution definitely should be leaders in this! So true!!!!!! Transforming space and discipline! Qualitative research is so underrated ...that’s some imagination with content. That was explained well
@mathewswakhungu
@mathewswakhungu 5 жыл бұрын
Great work. Ngugi Wathiongo is from East Africa, West Africa.
@KryxtianBlack
@KryxtianBlack 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna come back to this one multiple times. Whew. 🙏🏽Thank you Jamila Lyiscott 🖤
@p.w.7493
@p.w.7493 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work you are doing to educate and awaken the social conciousness of your people. Our culture and language do matter and should be embraced/celebrated. Kudos and much success in your endeavors, sister!
@herovids1197
@herovids1197 4 жыл бұрын
Educate people... not just our people! Let's hope they're hearing. If I had to judge by some of the abrasive replies, I would say they are only listening to respond and with malice.
@anncoxwell7015
@anncoxwell7015 3 жыл бұрын
We use standard English in formal settings-school, business, etc.-and dialect at home or other less formal settings. I’ve been doing it all my life.
@kimaya.3563
@kimaya.3563 3 жыл бұрын
Same here in the Caribbean.
@abrahamdiana9874
@abrahamdiana9874 3 жыл бұрын
That was my thought as well! There is a time and place for everything, we won't be cracking guy jokes at the dinner table with the family.
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
Who DOESN'T do that? I've never understood what it is that y'all think is so unique about this. The biggest difference I know of is that we never complained that there was anything unfair about having to do so - especially at school, of all places. OF COURSE we were gonna be expected to speak and write in proper English at school. (Smh) !
@rebeccasavage-owens9183
@rebeccasavage-owens9183 10 ай бұрын
EVERYONE has been doing this.
@reginadavis1028
@reginadavis1028 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this have ANY thumbs down? If this Queen was a professor in MY school, I'd have a PhD by now. Talk about intellectually DOPE AF and motivating! Do it my sista!
@naanajuvana1271
@naanajuvana1271 4 жыл бұрын
regina mapp That’s 127 morons who do not value what she’s saying.
@reginadavis1028
@reginadavis1028 4 жыл бұрын
@@naanajuvana1271 period
@ashleijai5890
@ashleijai5890 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't allow my children to talk Ebonics or broken native Creole English until they were old enough to write and spell fluently. Once they got past the formative structures, I relaxed. I understand the context of what she's saying however, the Millennials are already changing English as colonial words become redundant from the English Dictionary.
@somethingyojoe8098
@somethingyojoe8098 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe because... She's wrong
@teresathomley3703
@teresathomley3703 4 жыл бұрын
Right on- it's been time for this to be discussed. Etymology is at the very base of all culture.
@paulkielty3800
@paulkielty3800 3 жыл бұрын
The English did the same thing in Ireland we could not speak our own language or allowed to play our own sports 🇮🇪
@mikeb4436
@mikeb4436 3 жыл бұрын
Your white, these people don't care, all they see is color.
@carstellathompson2811
@carstellathompson2811 4 жыл бұрын
Truly inclusive i like that. An institution reimagined . perfect
@byte_girl
@byte_girl 3 жыл бұрын
Jamila: Speaks in an inspiring manner. Me, in the background: Damn, those earrings CUTE!
@PeterBrodie
@PeterBrodie 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I started sharing half-way through - couldn't wait till the end! But a lot more sharing to go yet!🙏🙏🙏
@alexisvega2150
@alexisvega2150 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love me some Dr. Lyiscott, I’ve followed her work for years and this really spoke volumes to some of her earlier work! Linguistic Liberation at its finest!
@joshuaroper1955
@joshuaroper1955 4 жыл бұрын
@Jamila Lyiscott to you queen... Love from Jackson Mississippi, you articulated that eloquently because Lord knows I done witnessed and been through these struggles in college classes...
@chuckbodnar5756
@chuckbodnar5756 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good example of a person marinaded in racism.
@rns7497
@rns7497 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that this was posted more than 365 days ago and only has 24k views...shows KZfaq algorithm is biased
@yvonnemurphy7506
@yvonnemurphy7506 4 жыл бұрын
💣 boom
@aderlinejohnson8566
@aderlinejohnson8566 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@b.c.thefoodscientician3646
@b.c.thefoodscientician3646 4 жыл бұрын
I been noticing a lot lately
@velvetrose7729
@velvetrose7729 4 жыл бұрын
Or.....it's NOT a bias......but it shows how Most people, watch videos that Entertain......MORE than they watch those that Educate?!
@rns7497
@rns7497 4 жыл бұрын
@@velvetrose7729 possibly but least likely
@gifted14sho
@gifted14sho 3 жыл бұрын
I first met this amazing woman at Michigan State's ULITT while we sat in a cipher facilitated by Toni Blackman. I am so glad to have met her! Keep pushing Doctor!
@FATHERsfulfillment
@FATHERsfulfillment 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all of the commentary following individuals putting in the work to educate, elevate and encourage growth. I am even more impressed when a fire is lit by the spark and someone is motivated to join the efforts of the few. Stop wasting so much time critiquing and criticizing someone else and use your time to do your part in building your/our communities as well. Js
@zawadim8613
@zawadim8613 4 жыл бұрын
6:34 Ngugi wa Thiong'o is not West African, he's east african: Kenyan to be precise.. just a point of correction
@kevinchesis7032
@kevinchesis7032 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that I ran to the comments. He was Kenyan and I remember reading one of his books 'The River Between'
@Tefera-hf8fw
@Tefera-hf8fw 4 жыл бұрын
And he wasn’t born before colonisation but during it otherwise he will be over 100yrs old lol
@joycewanjuhi651
@joycewanjuhi651 4 жыл бұрын
Ngugi Wathiongo is Kenyan-An African Writer.
@bonniesalima5867
@bonniesalima5867 3 жыл бұрын
We know he is Kenyan because he writes about his experience in Kenya under English colonisation.
@beckylieb2637
@beckylieb2637 3 жыл бұрын
Americans in general tend to view West Africa as "Africa" as a whole. I keep running into this, but in this case, I think she just had the wrong info at hand. I suspect this lady has a greater understanding than the run of the mill person looking at this topic.
@skyfish-kj5ww
@skyfish-kj5ww 4 жыл бұрын
I was honestly caught off guard too when she asked “what’s good” based on my initial reaction being “nothing much” in anticipation of “what’s up” and realized it didn’t make sense, and didn’t know what the correct thing to say to it was since i wasn’t sure if you take the phrase literally or not, even though I’ve heard other people say it plenty of times before.
@warlorddragon8724
@warlorddragon8724 2 жыл бұрын
Love being in highschool language comprehension and doing an essay on this video very cool.....
@humanchildofgod3126
@humanchildofgod3126 Жыл бұрын
Speaking English, the language that can be used to earn RESPECT and be offered the ability to succeed, must be taught and not compromised or excused because of stereotypes and environment where we come from!!!
@Ava-gp6cq
@Ava-gp6cq 4 жыл бұрын
Correction from her talk - Ngugi Wa Thiong'o is East African Writer. A brilliant Kenyan author 🙌🏽
@valeriejohnson2492
@valeriejohnson2492 4 жыл бұрын
Thalnk you for challenging us to use our minds in a more expansive way. In the case of English, no matter how it is spoken it can be understood. We attempt to learn other languages in order to communicate with other cultures, why not simply be accepting of other ways of expressing English. The way things are simply and actually not so simply maintains the atmosphere/message being control to fit into someone else's standard. Someone else drew the picture and we never question why we accept it as true or the only truth the only valid way be in our beingness. Peace.
@myphoneishacked557
@myphoneishacked557 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful talk...thank you!
@awkwardblacktribe2100
@awkwardblacktribe2100 3 жыл бұрын
4:57 Fun fact. Pusha-T from the Clipse came up with that McDonald's jingle.
@abrahamdiana9874
@abrahamdiana9874 3 жыл бұрын
Really!?!? Pusha-T definitely underrated
@cc6702
@cc6702 3 жыл бұрын
YAS!!!! Keep speaking! Keep sharing this!!! Wake up educators and universities!!
@faanengaaw7357
@faanengaaw7357 3 жыл бұрын
I come from a very small island nation in the Pacific formerly a trust territory of the US, but we gained Independence. Our school system is based on the US curriculum. Today people who do not speak english are frowned upon & looked on as if they are not educated. English is my 2nd language & im thankful i can still speak my native language.
@genwords1789
@genwords1789 4 жыл бұрын
I really think that She can get her point across w/o sounding hostile.
@pamelajuniel3151
@pamelajuniel3151 Жыл бұрын
Why is it that you immediately go to 'hostility'? Would you say that if she were white? Where are you learning this way of assumption?
@rebeccasavage-owens9183
@rebeccasavage-owens9183 10 ай бұрын
I'd say tone affects perception, and a hostile tone will be met with resistance no matter who uses it.
@josephholdman1037
@josephholdman1037 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting speech! Your on 🔥 Thank You! for argumentive statements I can use for my own speech. Thank You!
@kananiedwin
@kananiedwin 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew about the one foot balance technique. Coz ive pushed 3 nieces for hour and hours and hours on their bikes before they grasped on how to balance and ride. Anyways I have 2 more nieces on my school of bikes and I'll will try this technique. Thanks for the speech I learned alot. Am from foreign and I understand what you were saying.
@ThePepsi2011
@ThePepsi2011 Жыл бұрын
❤. She reminded me that when I speak my native tongue that I am powerful. I’m sharing apart of my culture, my upbringing my ancestors voices are still alive
@lavacaloca2079
@lavacaloca2079 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a teacher like that growing up in Panama!
@lucynderitu3995
@lucynderitu3995 5 жыл бұрын
A correction though - Ngugi Wa Thion'go is from Kenya in East Africa
@whateverisclever730
@whateverisclever730 4 жыл бұрын
Lucy if we are to take her seriously shouldnt this fact that can easily be googled bring everything else she says into question? The answer is yes
@geoffreykirenga1157
@geoffreykirenga1157 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever Is Clever Really? ... How?
@geoffreykirenga1157
@geoffreykirenga1157 4 жыл бұрын
Lucy ... It was interesting to me to at least once to witness Kenya being confused with the West Africa region. Being a Tanzanian I am used of many things Tanzanian being labelled Kenyan! However, at the global level who really cares? Kenya or Tanzania to most is simply Africa. To them all that is in it is, and will always remain - African ... And I love it as there is no where like Africa the home of humanity with about 2000 live and spoken languages. What a treasure trove of intellectual celebration as it is normal to find someone navigating seamlessly in not less than 4 completely unrelated tongues! That is an example of being articulate! So common that most of us do not even have a word for it for it is not something special. In English Is not what you call polyglots?
@jadanmiorke7378
@jadanmiorke7378 4 жыл бұрын
Companies speak like us to take our money, but won’t hire anyone that actually speaks like that lmao 😂 shame
@Saramada7979
@Saramada7979 3 жыл бұрын
Shame on us that we still supporting them!
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
* still ARE supporting them
@ur5860
@ur5860 3 жыл бұрын
This should have more views and likes... in my opinion. 💖💛💖💖 Well said sis.
@littlemissymissy9507
@littlemissymissy9507 Жыл бұрын
Truth always keep hidden KZfaq itself will help hide it all and work together
@jamesdodge7941
@jamesdodge7941 3 жыл бұрын
So you're being subjugated by being held to the same identical educational standards as everyone in this county? SMH
@shanettapryce4029
@shanettapryce4029 3 жыл бұрын
Hey.... I love this. Wish you could come to Jamaica and facilitate a conversation on this topic..... 👍
@johnnyjoestar356
@johnnyjoestar356 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, just an idea, i'm alien to a this stuff being italian buut, England has slangs within the same ethnic group, they still have a standard written english that does not incorporate these slangs.
@treacherousjslither6920
@treacherousjslither6920 4 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@pricesymonej
@pricesymonej 4 жыл бұрын
... youre not alien to it... Dig deeper.
@herovids1197
@herovids1197 4 жыл бұрын
True. No point was made here. You said that to say... What is your point?
@oswaldthomas1425
@oswaldthomas1425 4 жыл бұрын
@@herovids1197 so much different regional dialects in Uk u would be astonished*
@herovids1197
@herovids1197 4 жыл бұрын
@@oswaldthomas1425 I actually lived in the UK for years. I would not be surprised.
@veghist
@veghist 2 жыл бұрын
I was curious what she will say. She did not disappoint. So predictable. Your English is judged by thousands of years English speakers, thinkers, scholars. Accept it. Accept also the privilege you have you have educated in English. Because believe me it is a privilege. Creole, Pinyin are fine, but it is not proper English, as does not build on the standard English traditions. Ebonics is not substitute for English, it is something apart. It makes you richer, but still. When one code switches, it is not something wrong, it is to connect to a greater audience. There is no utility for diversity of English in the classroom, because it creates disconnect. The richness of minority English is not to be overlooked or forgot, but it cannot be a substitute for standard English. I'm not a native speaker if you speak Jamaican or any other patois, chances are, you loose me. It applies to Cockney, or Gordie English too. Should they be taught in school too?
@lindaamcgee855
@lindaamcgee855 3 жыл бұрын
Correction Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o is a Kenyan writer (East African) not a West African writer.
@JayeDee555
@JayeDee555 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! One of the best TEDx Talks I've ever heard!
@thekikombe1038
@thekikombe1038 Жыл бұрын
Excellent TEDTalk! Excellent! Thank you for sharing. Also, Ngugi wa Thiong’o is an East African author! 👌🏾😌
@madworld4489
@madworld4489 4 жыл бұрын
You remember a while back when they decided there were too many obese people, to fix that they just changed the definition of obese. This is the same argument.
@barrychuckle2190
@barrychuckle2190 3 жыл бұрын
If we don’t have a standard for everyone then we risk not understanding each other. The standard is there and would remain there even if there were no people of colour in the West, and there would still be disparities of outcomes. If we can all agree on the rules then at least the test is fair.
@angelasiame9045
@angelasiame9045 3 жыл бұрын
I am humbled by her brutally in articulation of concepts
@chaosunleashed274
@chaosunleashed274 4 жыл бұрын
The intentions for attempting to include linguistic diversity into the academic environment are noble indeed, however the difficulty appears when someone tries to put this principle into practice. It's easy to acknowledge someone's ability to code-switch between languages, but it just won't be of any use to them if they're not among other code-switchers. I myself can code-switch between some five languages in slow conversations. But what would I gain from code-switching like that in a NYC campus besides making myself harder to understand? I might be able to teach a dozen words in those languages to my friends in a few weeks, but how can I expect the examiner to spend an extra twenty minutes reading my essay just to check on Google Translate whether the twenty weird words he found are from an actual foreign language or just incoherent babble?
@razerhead9489
@razerhead9489 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, while it might be nice for a cultural thing like this to exist in general to integrate it into the educational system is just utter insanity. The point of a standardized system is about efficiency, how much easier it is to educate people when all speak in the same way, and including linguistic diversity into the general academic environment would honestly just miss the point. Make a course for it for all I care, if there is not already one for it but more is just over the top and a step into the wrong direction.
@keithcoupel2271
@keithcoupel2271 2 жыл бұрын
How many languages are there in the world. I would guess thousands. My guess is there are a thousand different languages spoken by US citizens. So how long would it take to educate our teachers. My guess is it would take a couple hundred years or so for a teacher to learn a thousand languages. It would be easier to teach English in an English speaking nation.
@guitarjunkie2065
@guitarjunkie2065 Жыл бұрын
@Vitor Henrique Ferreira Barbosa Excellent!
@katemask3904
@katemask3904 Жыл бұрын
I agree! As someone from a country with a formally standardized language, almost no Germans speak proper High German/Standard German at home. Nearly all of us speak some sort of dialect/vernacular/accent in private circles - some closer or further from the standardized variety. At school and in business, Standard German is expected, not necessarily in pronunciation, but most definitely in grammar and spelling. It's the one thing that enables us to communicate with each other, someone from Northern Germany would not be able to communicate with someone from Southern Germany otherwise. Of course, dialects/vernaculars are intertwined with regional culture and of extreme cultural value, but this isn't about race or regional culture, it's about nationality and ensuring national communication. It's about making sure that everyone can be understood by everyone. And since nobody is ever able to speak all vernacular varieties, it's also about making sure that nobody is left out. It's important that nobody experiences discrimination for their cultural heritage, including accents/vernaculars/dialects of all sorts, but it is also important to provide common ground.
@vaughnrobinson4042
@vaughnrobinson4042 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing new about people looking down on new ways of using language. The standard English of today would not fly in 16th Century England. The lower classes of 16th Century English were looked down upon for their use of the language. However, some of the words that were used by lower classes become standard English words over time. I have read many book and watch several documentaries on the evolution of the English language. It is something I am fascinated with it. So I do not buy her argument that racism is the main focus of schools correcting children that do not speak standard English. We have to have a standard that everyone follows. That does not mean we do not adapt our language when we speak to certain groups. It happens everyday. We speak different to our boss, the police, children, our friends, strangers, etc. That is ok and it is human to do this. But we have to have a standard that everyone will follow. Once we master that standard, then we can deconstruct it and use it in different forms. It is like an instrument. When you learn the guitar you learn standard chords in standard tuning. Once you "master" (you never master an instrument) then you can begin to using different tunings, chords etc. to make beautiful sounds.
@elizabethbrooks2883
@elizabethbrooks2883 3 жыл бұрын
Exceptional - that’s a Trini ambassador and citizen of the world.
@1truek269
@1truek269 Жыл бұрын
I've never listened to a person and thought, "so literate" unless it's a child...
@CarolC-kl6oo
@CarolC-kl6oo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes M'am .... When the Creator said ( LET THERE BE !! ) The Power of his Voice Formed Planets and Stars within the Universe !! There is POWER in Language, Words, Names and Voice.
@altareggo
@altareggo 4 жыл бұрын
Well at least this video doesn't silence the voice of the commenters.... becoming a fad these daze to prevent people from discussing what you are presenting to them!! So..... BRAVO!!
@mommaawareness
@mommaawareness 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly expressed. Thank you.. change is mandatory.....Awareness is key...Balance is opportunity...Thank you.. Sis...We are moving forward. Each one teach one....
@trasation1774
@trasation1774 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE thissss. Her words and actions are sooo poetic! 🔥
@krcrr813
@krcrr813 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking another language is a different thing than dialects within that language. Americans from different areas of the country have different accents or different catch phrases they speak, but proper English is the base for all of those. All students should be taught proper English so they can choose to speak it if they desire. The problem with accents or dialects is communication is sometimes adversely affected. Go to Cajun country in Louisiana and, although English is their language, you may not understand a word they say. This is where schools fail us in the name of diversity.
@laurice8056
@laurice8056 4 жыл бұрын
This is a profoundly important lesson in our contribution to American English language and pride in the history of Ebonics! Thanks for sharing this message.
@acyk7736
@acyk7736 4 жыл бұрын
I am a kikuyu from Kenya and elementary school pupils are still getting punished by getting forced to wear something on their necks for speaking their mother tongue
@judet1293
@judet1293 5 жыл бұрын
Ngugi Wa Thiongo is Kenyan i.e. from East Africa.
@ejec3134
@ejec3134 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Lyiscott, this is awesome! Thank you!
@judet1293
@judet1293 4 жыл бұрын
Ebonics is widely understood in popular culture in America and globally. It is one of the major of components of American cultural export. I think we need to look at other places and languages for reference. In Jamaica, they have Patois which is generally spoken across the Island but is not considered a language of commerce, business, academia or official government business. In England there is a dialect of English that is more prestigious than lots of others. Yes, they speak many dialects of English in England. In the Arab world, there are many local dialects of Arabic some mutually unintelligible from each other, but Modern Standard Arabic is the prestigious version that educated people use. So, I am sorry to have to say this, one dialect of a language wins out and becomes the dominant one from many. FYI, I am from Africa and I speak 3 local East African languages each of which have varieties, and each have a prestigious variety. That is simply how language works. I think I am fluent in English, and if I can speak well enough to be undertook globally, why can't African Americans adopt the mainstream dialect? It is a lot easier to be 'bi-dialect' than to be bilingual. You don't have to give up your culture your history or language. You just have to be 'bi-dialect'. In Africa we are multi-lingual and 'multi-dialect'.
@PochamaRex
@PochamaRex 4 жыл бұрын
Jakiiki T most of us are bidialectal and code-switch frequently between AAVE and a more generalized American English, though there are some few that do use only one or the other depending on individual circumstance
@DevinMacGregor
@DevinMacGregor 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@heyheyhey40
@heyheyhey40 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 33 years old and I’ve been getting up in front of many different groups to speak since I was 16. And this reminds me that even if I write a speech to stand before people and read, I write that speech much differently than I would write a letter or an email. In speech, I can pause and emphasize certain things. I don’t always speak in complete sentences and I don’t always use proper grammar because there is indeed power in this. I can read my speech and it doesn’t sound like I’m reading.
@bespokenOxford
@bespokenOxford 3 жыл бұрын
This was an outstanding and thought-provoking talk. Thank you, Jamila.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
She's speaking correct English. We learn Forrest English to speak with those who do not speak out colloquial English. They don't speak Ebonics in Japan or India.
@kellyodowd3949
@kellyodowd3949 Жыл бұрын
This is so smart and empowering. Yet, really depressing and exhausting:(. It's still ,as though in order to rise up from oppression , STILL requires ever since the days of slavery, to be forced to become an expertly educated human being, just to almost prove to be "worthy" and to have the skills to be able to defeat racism. But it's a unending struggle that will never win until every American citizen knows this history and it is a shameful embarrassment to know Florida has an education system dictated by politics.
@bill3641
@bill3641 3 жыл бұрын
So, to refer to someone as " articulate " has underlying negative meaning ? What have we done to ourselves ?
@kosmique
@kosmique 3 жыл бұрын
how do you not get this what she means?
@helendancelot
@helendancelot 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me Welsh etc
@ladybluelotus
@ladybluelotus 4 жыл бұрын
Welsh is a beautiful language.
@msdarden6602
@msdarden6602 3 жыл бұрын
So important today. The institution of public educators should listen to this. It could revitalize the subject (If they are interested in doing so).
@jcrystal2584
@jcrystal2584 4 жыл бұрын
Yeeesss, I've been teaching my sons this, white people believe that their standard is the only standard that counts.....happy to come across a like minded sista
@warpnin3
@warpnin3 4 жыл бұрын
And now they will score straight A's for English. Well done!
@warpnin3
@warpnin3 4 жыл бұрын
Have you got examples of how white impose their standards on others as the only correct one?
@madworld4489
@madworld4489 4 жыл бұрын
So you want ton change the standard language of America? To what language?
@BenjaminNuttinYahoo
@BenjaminNuttinYahoo 4 жыл бұрын
Crystal Jo... If English came from the Carribean, people who spoke English would have to accept that standard. But it didn't. Stop inflicting bs on your kids.
@Alien_at_Large
@Alien_at_Large 3 жыл бұрын
*SOME white people.
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