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@fantiscious5 ай бұрын
Planning full cross, improving f2l efficiency and lookahead 😒🙄❌🤢🤮 Learning hundreds of algs to improve LS+LL by 0.2 seconds 🤑😍🤪🗣💯
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
I know people are gonna flame me for saying that 0.2 seconds isn’t worth it but listen OLL and PLL is something you get every solve so you must optimize them as it makes a big difference. EO > ZB takes way more work and gives minimal results, if at all
@Aaron-rw3lv5 ай бұрын
I learned the Canadian version called ZED B L L. Your last layer you peel the stickers and restick them with maple syrup while standing in front of a moose for motivation. The biggest mistake is most people make is they don’t stand in front of the moose and without that you really aren’t going to be that fast.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
🍁🇨🇦
@CuberCaiden5 ай бұрын
😂 I would try this if I was canadian...,
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Lol
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J5 ай бұрын
lol hilarious
@yoavvishne71795 ай бұрын
I started doing eo to zbll in some of my solves(for T and U zbll) Within like 2 weeks my solves with it started improving. I also had a chance to use it in comp recently and without predicting the zbll(did R' U' F' U F R) I got a 6.4, you just need to experiment with it and see when it's worth it.
@3DCubing5 ай бұрын
🐐🐐
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
look, you are more than “eligible” to use it, and if it benefits you then great. I’m most referring to people that are barely sub10 or not even that aren’t quite saving time on it lol
@yoavvishne71795 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSunif you do it right it can be good at any level, with good fingertricks, recognition and algs then it's completely worth it. If you lack one of these it becomes worse than oll pll. If you learn it early it becomes more useful in the future.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure it makes sense to learn ZBLL before you have good OLL and PLL skills
@artestra5 ай бұрын
i agree. I've already started on T and U ZBLL but I'm not bothering with the rest. I think improving fluency and recognition has helped me out way more
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Yea, train your current ZBLLs before learning a whole ton
@patrickponce48385 ай бұрын
I 100% benefit from EO + ZB (For 3x3 and for OH especially) . I've been using it since 2018.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
The video is more meant for people that are barely sub10 and are wasting time on it if you’re benefiting from it then go ahead
@paulsebastian39875 ай бұрын
Enjoy your videos ,I was thinking about the zbll ,but I'm only a beginner right now ,and am using 2 look oll and pll right ,but am working on it thanks
@curiousNic5 ай бұрын
It might not make you faster but it's assumed that doing EO to ZB makes you 6,9% cooler.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
haha the comma
@CuberCaiden5 ай бұрын
Sometimes I do EO to zb to force 2 gll algs, and not diag pll’s. It’s definitely worth it for me, as I know full zbll, and I know a bunch of cases where it’s basically 1lll because you can predict, and sometimes can cancel into it. Just my opinion though On another thought, Bofan Uses EO to zb, and is super successful with it, getting sub 6 averages, and his zb recognition is almost instant.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Nice
@miga57205 ай бұрын
Do you recommend buying the Gan pyra enhanced, on special. Is it a great pyraminx? Krep up the great work
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
It's good
@tuenguyen98495 ай бұрын
Hello Brian. How do you compare between the Ys3m and the gan 12? I use a lot of your algs and use S move a lot. Which cube is better with S ?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
They are both really good haha
@jonas-by5uc5 ай бұрын
small unrelated questions, for the F2L on the left, do you just mirror what you do on the right or do you have optimized algs for the left side ?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
I mirror them They are optimized algs for the left side but actually I mirror them to the right side sometimes too
@catchgoogle5 ай бұрын
I think the idea of zbll being slowed more than pll in realistic solving environments is a bit misguided. wouldnt pll being more practiced be a counter argument since the fastest execution of a pll could be like twice as fast as an execution in the 30th percentile, while for zbll the algorithm is (yes) probably slower, but the time variance is spread throughout a smaller deviation (since the alg hasnt been practiced enough to have a 0.7 fastest execution, but you can consistently get a bunch of 1.1 or 1.2 executions consistently) other than that, good video. thanks for addressing the critiques 🙂
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Bro is overthinking it Sure PLL isn’t always going to be in the 30th percentile for execution speed, but it’s always going to more reliable and still faster
@kinkajou50365 ай бұрын
do you think once you get sub 7 with fast LL execution times and good look ahead for f2l, you should learn zbls first? Like do you think once you're at the plateau you mentioned zbls is a more important foundation than zbll?
@Mmmm1ch43l5 ай бұрын
no, there is no point in learning zbls if you don't know zbll already
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
No, I said that ZBLS to ZBLL makes a bigger difference than EO to ZB you have to learn ZBLL first and then do ZBLS
@MaximilianBerkmannАй бұрын
Its better if you start with VHLS first (it's basically 2 sets of ZBLS) and see how you can take advantage of those sets and your F2L knowledge to solve other ZBLS intuitively (of course some cases may end up subpar intuitive algs but at least you build up on that).
@MaximilianBerkmannАй бұрын
@BrinaSun IME, learning ZBLLs first (aside from the easy ones you get from COLL algs) isn't worth it until you know full VHLS. I definitely agree that EO to ZB (or at least the way I see it and understood from the video being OELL to ZBLL) isn't worth it and intuitive ZBLS aren't always as fast or as efficient as doing the F2L normally then OLL+PLL.
@Aladdindoescubes5 ай бұрын
great points, I will now get better at OLL PLL
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Great
@thatpyraguy5 ай бұрын
Not in the topic of the video, but how do you improve f2l efficiency and tps while looking ahead?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
if you want to improve your f2l efficiently you need to learn to pause intentionally in order to remember a shorter solution If you try to never pause you will never be able to be efficient
@dka56315 ай бұрын
I remember Feliks had a EO+ZBLL in his legendary 6.54 second WR average that stood ages
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
6.54 doesn’t mean anything nowadays lol That’s like saying Minh Thai did corners first in his legendary 20 seconds WR therefore it’s good
@teriww5 ай бұрын
that 6.54 was on a weilong dude
@teriww5 ай бұрын
6.54 on a weilong is like as impressive as a low 5 avg on a gan cube
@dka56315 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun broo that 6.54 was 1 second faster than wr2. About same difference as top2 and top100. Im basically agreeing with you - only the very best can squeeze water from stone and benefit from EO+ZBLL
@jasonbest15 ай бұрын
OLL -> PLL is the BACKBONE. Only for bad OLLs (that don’t have good CP influencing alternative OLL algs) would you even consider EO -> ZBLL. So you’re doing OLL -> PLL at least 80% of the time. Might as well make those 80% of your solves GOOD rather than the other 20% good 🙂.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Literally Also “bad” OLLs (they are still 0.6 in execution speed) are less than 20% haha, OLL is VERY optimized
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
lol
@reecypeecy99094 ай бұрын
I wonder when it’s gonna become popular to do COLL but for all 58 OLL cases. Then 1LLL will be a thing. I’m only halfway kidding
@LiamHighducheck5 ай бұрын
Do you think full ZBLS is worth it? Will there be certain really bad cases/sets where it’s not worth using? Should/do you have to learn ZBLS for extra/all slots, or get good at resolving the skill issue of ending on a less favourable slot? How do you feel about 1LLL (disregarding time to learn)? How do you feel about different ZBLL recog systems?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Right now it’s not optimized but it will be worth it 1LLL will probably never be worth it
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J5 ай бұрын
It's going to depend on the balance of your strengths. Your strength is TPS. Some people have strong recognition skills with weak TPS and anything that saves them turns will reduce their time.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Nope, there are super efficient OLLs that you can use instead for the “bad” OLLs (they aren’t bad)
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J5 ай бұрын
Also, people have different physiology and anatomy. There are algs that you may think are super easy, but not for others. What's your alg for the OLL in the video?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
R’ F’ R U’ r’ F r M’ U’ r’ F2 R Not worse than the cases that have related algs
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J5 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun Oh ya that's super smooth! I see your point. Do you have a list of all your main OLL / PLL algs? I was using r' U' r U' R' U R U' R' U R r' U r and it's pretty fast for my big hands, but has a regrip at the start.
@BrinaSun4 ай бұрын
@@J.J.J.J.J.J.Jwatch my cfop video Search “brina sun cfop” or go to my playlists
@Falitate5 ай бұрын
But do you think full ZBLS into full ZB is good/faster/worth it? What are your thoughts on it?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
one day it will be but right now a big chunk of ZBLS is not optimized
@godzillafirefox9235 ай бұрын
Is OLS(oll and last slot) and PLL better than eo+zbll, i know it is worse than zbls and zbll...
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
that is better than eo + zb
@6whage6dh36J5 ай бұрын
hey man,please tell me what cube you would choose and why - tornado v3 flagship or ys3m ball core uv?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Ys3m
@6whage6dh36J5 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun why tho?I have the tv2 and i like it but i tend to overshoot and corner cutting isn't great.Just wanna know why would you recommend the ys3m over the tv3.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Ys3m can turn faster and also corner cuts better
@6whage6dh36J5 ай бұрын
thanks@@BrinaSun
@6whage6dh36J5 ай бұрын
sorry for bothering u,how does it comparee to the rs3m v5 ball uv?(the ys3m)
@PracticallyNocturnal5 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you EO to ZB is way to inefficient, I recently started averaging sub 10 and I'd like to learn ZBLS to ZBLL because I think its a decent investment, I know my times will be stuck for a long time though until i finish learning the 700+ algs
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Don’t learn full ZBLS, wait until it’s optimized, right now most of the algs are bad
@PracticallyNocturnal5 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSunoh thank you! ill probably also try to optimize my plls for the time being and learn 2GLL to start since those can be applied easily
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
You should
@paramoecium93085 ай бұрын
I average 17 and I’m learning U zbll. I’ve gotten through two coll subsets. 😁
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Nice
@jettyung23894 ай бұрын
9:16 lmao. So true
@candyi._.5 ай бұрын
Way too much work until ZBLL is ever worth it or even faster right?. It makes you slower if you force it and the practice time you put into 3x3 can be in other aspects thatd make you infinitely faster than trying to make ZBLL beneficial
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Facts
@junnosuke_takahashi5 ай бұрын
what about for the something like sune fruf OLL with diag cp, surely eo > zb is better for this case? the alg preserves a lot of stuff and solves the recog problem, also 2glls are fast
@douglaschaplow44675 ай бұрын
Often I choose whether to do OLL or EO to ZB depending on the CP. That’s a good example, and also the one that Brian showed. I’ll do F sexy F’ only if it’s diag CP.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Nah, DIAG CP MEANS YOU GET AN EPLL BRUH sune fruruf solves the diag cp lol (also it’s a super fast alg) Unless you mean solved CP which means sune fruruf gives a diag haha
@douglaschaplow44675 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that’s what he meant (at least that’s what I meant.) I do the 2-edge alg for that, the mirror, and the similar T cases only if it gives 2gll.
@junnosuke_takahashi5 ай бұрын
yeah I meant solved CP mb@@BrinaSun
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
I would just do the OLLCP lol I suppose you could mirror double sledge double sexy
@joshk1475 ай бұрын
I like cubing rants
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Same
@ethanschneider130105 ай бұрын
I didn’t even know this was a debate I thought everyone knew that ZBLS +ZBLL was faster lol
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Lol
@ZZRULes995 ай бұрын
What about EO during cross, then ZBLL?
@gpl7895 ай бұрын
Based profile like oml
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
for 2 handed it’s going to remain slower for like at least 5 years at this rate
@ZZRULes995 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun Could you please explain? EOCross can be done in 8-9 moves. EO recognition is easy. F2L is rotationless and Last Layer is manageable and ergonomic.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
And despite that, everyone who uses ZZ is slow. Even John Smith hasn’t gotten anywhere ZZ is limiting in terms of advanced techniques that can get you really good times, that’s why top cubers do so well with cfop
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Also you can’t plan EOcross + 2 every single time but you do it for CFOP
@princeteo32725 ай бұрын
Cool.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Cool
@Anthony_Jiang5 ай бұрын
Me when Brina forgets that Juliette uses eo to zb: 🤨
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
She’s not as good at it as tymon lol
@goodled5 ай бұрын
Bro said ‘I’m finna learn full ZB’ then weeks later : Gets like that 😂
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
I mean I did learn full U in 2 weeks which 72 algs
@linnapvicy99683 ай бұрын
ZB METHOD IS ONLY THE BEST METHOD ALL OF THE TIME.
@NoldK9325 ай бұрын
Is ZBLS to COLL then PLL are worth to learn for sub 11?
@Luna775435 ай бұрын
No
@NoldK9325 ай бұрын
@@Luna77543 is there advantage for the long term? Or just stick with the standards? Thank you:)
@Luna775435 ай бұрын
@@NoldK932 most COLL isn’t worth it in general, and without a large chunk of ZBLL, ZBLS isn’t worth learning
@NoldK9325 ай бұрын
@@Luna77543 I got it, thank you :)
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Luna is right
@shahar789855 ай бұрын
When would you recommend learning zbll?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
When you’re sub8
@shahar789855 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun is it worth it to learn a few cases before?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
The COLLs and the easy cases sure
@shahar789855 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun im learning the 2gll u set because it's really easy and then i will probably stop learning zbs
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Ok
@x58so5 ай бұрын
so you can make points about eols cuz I use it some of the time
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Don’t do it unless it’s just a sledge
@candyi._.5 ай бұрын
Yup
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Yes
@martinshoosterman5 ай бұрын
And then theres that one guy who learned 1LLL, but has about a 10 second average. (Forgot his name, but people sre going to do what they want)
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
you can do whatever you want, it’s just not always helpful
@MaximilianBerkmannАй бұрын
Daniel Rose-Levine (DRL)?
@JamesonJamestackSwick5 ай бұрын
EO+ZBLL isn't bad, recognition is bad.
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Depends, tymon does predict the ZBLL but I don’t think it’s always worth it
@Josiah_Vidzro5 ай бұрын
I got a 6.63 in class Retried and got a 5.5 Generated by CubeTime. 6.63: R2 F' D2 L2 R2 B2 F L D' R' D B2 L' D F R' B2 F2
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Good job!
@AVCuber5 ай бұрын
What about juliette?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
She’s not that good at 2H lol more of an OH person
@AVCuber5 ай бұрын
@@BrinaSun well i do agree about that but that was a more a question about do you think she benifits of it?
@kaszamix86975 ай бұрын
Roasting tymon and kyle part 1
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
tru
@_cablewastaken5 ай бұрын
my ass knowing like only 100 zblls:
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Same
@_cablewastaken5 ай бұрын
@BrinaSun yay im not alone
@canyouisnt61755 ай бұрын
brina color neutral when
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Omg its u
@canyouisnt61755 ай бұрын
been a while
@Anthony_Jiang5 ай бұрын
Me when oh 🤚
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
You’re the only one
@jtccuber58275 ай бұрын
hey can u plz tell me your age
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
16
@coconutcubes57505 ай бұрын
Just do 1LLL. End of discussion
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
No
@JosephBurnett9375 ай бұрын
pog
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
pog
@user-dq2tv5xr4w5 ай бұрын
Do you know me?
@BrinaSun5 ай бұрын
Yes you are TAEHOON YOO
@miga57205 ай бұрын
Hallo, it is my birthday on the 22th of jan and i am turning 14, and i wanted to ask if you can give me a birthday shoutout. And funny story, today i was at a restaurant, and they said that i can get free icecream, nut it never came😭