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2 жыл бұрын

Florida oranges had their worst crop in 70 years. They're facing a deadly disease called citrus greening, spread in the body of the invasive Asian citrus psyllid. Today, nearly every citrus grove in Florida is infected with the disease. If an orange tree were to remain untreated, the disease would block its ability to get nutrients and kill it within a few years. But Florida's growers have figured out a way to keep growing edible oranges, even on infected trees. They've implemented a slew of horticultural techniques developed with scientists at the University of Florida, from pink clay to reflective mulch. But they still haven't found a long-term cure. We went to central Florida to see how growers and scientists are keeping the big business of oranges alive.
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@1Clearwords
@1Clearwords 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't the pest, necessarily, it's monoculture farming.
@microska2656
@microska2656 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, disasters like these are inevitable.
@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 2 жыл бұрын
Well without monoculture farming you will get higher prices of Orange and OJ.
@nunya2814
@nunya2814 2 жыл бұрын
If you think monoculture farming is the only farming that experiences pest problems, do more research.
@CoopMauKona
@CoopMauKona 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnl.7754 So? Artificially low prices in 1 generation of people while destroying otherwise healthy eco systems is selfish. Same destructive agriculture is now being done to support low prices for Avocados, palm oil, bananas, etc. High prices drive innovation.
@bluey3575
@bluey3575 2 жыл бұрын
But people love certain fruits and not the others, and thus farmer grow what the market demands....
@billmoyer3254
@billmoyer3254 2 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Florida over 65 years. I remember when Orange County actually had orange groves.
@lindaobryan3175
@lindaobryan3175 2 жыл бұрын
Wait .. is that why it's called orange county? Wow
@preciadoalex123
@preciadoalex123 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindaobryan3175 hope that was sarcasm
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, I've lived in California for over 65 years. I remember when Orange County here had orange groves! Smudge pots in the winter.
@Hyperlingualism
@Hyperlingualism 2 жыл бұрын
@@preciadoalex123 To be fair, the "Orange County" in New York, Virginia, and North Carolina are named after Prince Williams III, IV, and V respectively, not after orange the fruit. The Principality of Orange was a sovereign state up until the 1700s and those counties borrow from the title "Prince of Orange". I moved from Orange County, NY and Orange County, FL and I honestly thought the Florida one had the same etymology.
@preciadoalex123
@preciadoalex123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyperlingualism you're right, found that out when I visited a historical train station in Bakersfield
@thedwightguy
@thedwightguy 2 жыл бұрын
We lost our large Valencia orange tree three years ago, almost 100 years old. Probably planted in 1934 when the house was built in the San Gabriel valley, Calif. Just packed it in; never had an issue with it, just passed on. A great juice tree.
@dergluckliche4973
@dergluckliche4973 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with a backyard full of citrus trees so reading your comment makes me sad.
@rottenpotato4399
@rottenpotato4399 2 жыл бұрын
@@dergluckliche4973 We had a 20 acre citurs farm here in Gaza, I grew up going to it every day. Until 2014, messiles from airplanes caused most of it to burn. It was heartbreaking really. War sucks
@dergluckliche4973
@dergluckliche4973 2 жыл бұрын
@@rottenpotato4399 It does suck. I'm sorry. I bet it was beautiful. Can imagine the smell and the bees when it was in bloom.
@thedwightguy
@thedwightguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@dergluckliche4973 the good news is the small lemon tree (a replacement) and a nice navel orange tree were opened to a lot more direct sunlight, so it was all good. Mom likes the orange juice fresh, and we have neighbors over to take bags of lemons away almost year around. But we had two really humid years (unusual for Los Angeles) and the tree just saw it's time to go, I guess. Doves used to overnight in the deep leaves and then leave for the day to forage. (mourning doves).
@deepspire
@deepspire 2 жыл бұрын
Should have cloned it by rooting branches.
@anthonyblacker8471
@anthonyblacker8471 2 жыл бұрын
Tragedy.. I lived in SouthWest Florida for years many years ago and we had the sweetest most delicious oranges I ever could remember.. it's a shame this has happened.. Really sad
@nicolasbertin8552
@nicolasbertin8552 2 жыл бұрын
This didn't "happen" by accident. It's the farmers' fault for growing weak trees. Insects only attack weak trees. NEVER healthy ones. In Florida, most of the trees are unhealthy because the planting density is too high, because they use pesticides and herbicides that destroy soil life and kill plant biodiversity. For a healthy grove of trees, you need them far appart, with native vegetation growing everywhere. That's how you get trees that don't attract psyllids. Any time you get insect damage, you need to think "what did I do wrong here ?". It can be a number of things : compacted soil, naked soil, too dense plantating, excess fertilizing, any pesticide, not enough water, too much water, etc... You can detect plant health with a refractometer, analyzing the sugar content of the leaf. If it's below 12 you're in trouble. When you get sucking insects like psyllid, you're around 6. A few farmers in Florida are above 12 coz they let the wild plants grow, no naked soil, no pesticides, and space their trees properly.
@anthonyblacker8471
@anthonyblacker8471 2 жыл бұрын
@Senior Shakingmyhead. I agree and it's unfortunate.. I moved to the Ft. Myers areaish after the 2008 debacle and seriously the amount of farmland that was partially build upon - especially on 41 between Punta Gorda and Ft. Myers.. it's terrible.. life will continue though
@raymondkidwell7135
@raymondkidwell7135 2 жыл бұрын
Not true. It has wiped out trees everywhere. In backyards etc. Wild trees grown from seed are pretty healthy but the fruit is sour.
@Madison.Rutherford
@Madison.Rutherford 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasbertin8552 straight up science. They obviously only care about profit.
@addysidhu5669
@addysidhu5669 2 жыл бұрын
Again that disgusting china send that virus, I wouldn’t be surprised if china grown that virus in their lab to send the world so other country orange 🍊 farm vanish and they become a monopoly in oranges and the Pestiside which can control that virus, just like covid 19, there is not a single good thing about that country , not a single , they just make money after spreading diseases to other country, I wouldn’t be surprised if they grown that virus or insect in their lab to become monopoly in orange farming, so they send that insect to other country, and they make money on those plastic bags or pesticides , just like covid 19
@jorgeconj
@jorgeconj 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Puerto Rico we had the same problem. It wasn’t untill a category 5 hurricane hit the island that we started to see imprvement in the citrus growth. It was also happening to avocados. Hurricane took care of that also.
@femininechaos4931
@femininechaos4931 2 жыл бұрын
Damn let’s pray for a hurricane then. Oranges are so good for our bodies.
@whiteprivilege7961
@whiteprivilege7961 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy
@ez5319
@ez5319 2 жыл бұрын
lol "hurricane took care of that also"🤣
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan 2 жыл бұрын
Could you not just simulate this and burn them all down and start from scratch?
@xiscanicolas6009
@xiscanicolas6009 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? No tree, no disease?
@CryptoHedge
@CryptoHedge 2 жыл бұрын
As a Florida native it’s nearly impossible to grow a citrus tree, as I have tried for years. 20 years ago was a different story. Try finding a sack of FL grown oranges at a local Florida supermarket. Most are imported from California.
@elderberryjamz3654
@elderberryjamz3654 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a house in south/central FL with a lemon, 2 tangerines, and a ruby red grapefruit trees. My next door neighbor had 2 navel orange trees and a massive lime bush. All of them perished between citrus canker and greening. I do spot healthy limes in random backyards every once in awhile so I wonder if they just haven’t been infected yet or if they’re resistant.
@ronniefnd
@ronniefnd 2 жыл бұрын
last time I looked in Publix the oranges were from Mexico.
@stankythecat6735
@stankythecat6735 2 жыл бұрын
My front yard in Palm Springs has the most incredible tangerines , oranges , blood oranges , pink and white grapefruit . I had to fire my Gardners because they weren’t sterilizing their tools between pruning other peoples trees… its important
@saudaldoraee8943
@saudaldoraee8943 2 жыл бұрын
صلوا على النبي
@apollo5751
@apollo5751 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's about 50/50 Florida/California. If this situation were REAL orange juice would cost $10/half gallon.
@guifdcanalli
@guifdcanalli Жыл бұрын
man who would ever thought that planting just one genetically identical plant would create problems? what a crazy thing
@aidankeller1717
@aidankeller1717 Жыл бұрын
Yup. As long as the scions throughout the country are all genetically identical, then this bacteria will continue to ravage the orange industry.
@handymack5324
@handymack5324 2 жыл бұрын
If you were living in Florida before 2000 you had the chance of experiencing the citrus state beautiful side of life. All over central Florida you found citrus groves that stretched miles along housing developments. At the perimeters of new housing subdivisions you found Valencia oranges dotted the landscape and nobody seemed to pay attention to them, and they just existed alongside weeds on the road. In your neighborhood you found citrus trees that bear so many fruits many homeowners actually advertised in local publications inviting locals to pick them for free to deter critters from congregating in their backyard at night. Floridians in those days took the state's abundant production for granted. Now everyone is facing the real danger of the extinction of the Florida orange and realizes how important the food crop is to the state. Its heartbreaking.
@nutterinherbutter5080
@nutterinherbutter5080 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my dad started to live in Haines city in 1996, he said you could drive for miles on US 27 seeing nothing but orange groves, nowadays it's either housing developments or commercial property, I miss the old Florida.
@hoihoipoipoi
@hoihoipoipoi 2 жыл бұрын
not really. prior to y2k the huge "problem" [that was never a problem at all] was the fear of citrus canker. from the keys up to orlando they mass murdered EVERYONES citrus trees, coming into ppls yards, even fenced yards an dhacking down any and all citrus. award winning key limes, lemons, oranges, all killed. so these oranges now that they are whining abt that are dying to a bacteria are NOT the same trees from the 90s. theyre entirely new trees, and are all clones and therefore much weaker. I feel like if you were rly from my state you'd know this.
@stephaniemcpherson2558
@stephaniemcpherson2558 Жыл бұрын
I was born in FL and mom still lives there. SOOO much of FL has died☹️ The only industry thriving now is drugs. The county I grew up in (Jackson) had numerous factories & farms. We farmed just about everything: melons, peanuts, cotton, soybeans, beef, vegetables, canola etc… Our factories made everything from furniture to washing machines and teeshirts to bed linens. Now there’s a few farms, a few prisons and meth! 😒
@hoihoipoipoi
@hoihoipoipoi Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniemcpherson2558 that's not true at all, idk what you're huffing but from orlando and tampa down FL is in grezat shape. the entire west coast up to tampa is pristine, not a single plastic bag blows on the ground in naples, even miami beach has been thoroughly cleaned up since the huge investment in the 90s. we still have the everglades and it has made a tremendous comeback since the 90s infrastructure that happened after hurricane andrew flattened the state. if you want all the benefits of miami like the cuban food and culture, without the traffic, then naples/ft myers is the place for you. I'm a FL native and I watched us go from critically endangered animals to booming populations. We even have made huge strides in saving the critically endangered key deer AND kemps ridley sea turtles. you must be smoking the strongest drugs to think FL is a nightmare. Maybe you just live in one of the nastier high-crime areas. Even miami with its million dollar homes has nasty crime areas (like FL city, perrine, cutler ridge) but the vast majority of places are very wealthy and very *nice*
@hoihoipoipoi
@hoihoipoipoi Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniemcpherson2558 googling it, this makes sense. you're in the most northern part of FL ruined by inbreds from alabama. if you were smart you'd just leave that area. any part of FL touching the filth of alabama and GA is a cesspool. just look at jacksonville. absolute pit of garbage.
@stifledvoice
@stifledvoice 2 жыл бұрын
In the 1970s we had acreage near a south Florida grove. In the cool months when the trees were flowering the air was so redolent with that orange blossom perfume you'd think you were in heaven.
@DarthVader-ou2vv
@DarthVader-ou2vv 2 жыл бұрын
That scent is indeed from heaven and you can add the beauty of the glowing flowers and bee's buzzing and you're already in heaven.
@yeetusonix9795
@yeetusonix9795 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to live in Florida - yeah it's a problem and a lot of the orange groves I saw growing up looked a whole lot healthier then what I saw leaving the state.
@antoniomartinez6722
@antoniomartinez6722 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the stupid governor is more worried about gay people
@MichaelMulin
@MichaelMulin 2 жыл бұрын
why did you leave if you dont mind sharing?
@yeetusonix9795
@yeetusonix9795 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMulin property taxes too damn high and South Carolina houses (the one I bought) was bigger than my place in FL (and also cost much less to buy) And I pay 95 dollars a year in property taxes in SC. Also too much overpopulation without road construction made it really difficult to travel without hitting traffic where I was on the west coast in FL.
@minavanderleest9493
@minavanderleest9493 2 жыл бұрын
Farmers have been saying for decades that modern farming has very real choke points and disease has ALWAYS been a real concern. Big is not necessarily better. Also stop looking at farming as a free market system. It's the most over regulated, subsidized, and corporate controlled industry in the world. It doesn't follow supply and demand.
@hithere5553
@hithere5553 2 жыл бұрын
And if it wasn’t, say hello to the Dust Bowl disaster on a continental scale, as well as mass starvation.
@minavanderleest9493
@minavanderleest9493 2 жыл бұрын
@@hithere5553 Starvation today will happen because of government. Not because there wasn't enough rain or poor farming practices in the field because majority of farmers are not screwing up the soil. If you look at corporations and government THAT is where the problems are growing. Not with farmers.
@joebobjenkins7837
@joebobjenkins7837 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO
@joebobjenkins7837
@joebobjenkins7837 2 жыл бұрын
@@hithere5553 dustbowl was the direct result of gov intervention. They promoted the crap out of corn, which is an exhaustive plant if not done correctly. They ruined 15ft thick soil in a few decades and viola, the dustbowl.
@kevinmclarkey621
@kevinmclarkey621 2 жыл бұрын
Complaining about regulation lmao. no regulations = dust bowl every 10 years
@archerbob6847
@archerbob6847 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when farm after farm grows exactly the same crop, some disease or insect goes through it like a wildfire with no real barrier to block it
@JB-yb4wn
@JB-yb4wn 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what happened to the Gros Michel bananas they were wiped out by a fungus in the 50s and replaced by the Cavendish banana, which is now being infected by another fungus called Panama disease. You are 100% correct, if crops were more diversified then when things like this happen, it wouldn't wipe out entire industries.
@raymondkidwell7135
@raymondkidwell7135 2 жыл бұрын
Wild oranges are sour similar to a lemon or grapefruit thus they use clones of extremely sweet ones.
@jetfire245
@jetfire245 2 жыл бұрын
As a Florida resident - I truly hope one day we can regain our citrus pride. It's made me sad to grow up with citrus greening, basically watching the very oranges I ate as a child now tasting like garbage.
@LIZZIE-lizzie
@LIZZIE-lizzie 2 жыл бұрын
@ Greg It's a shame for Floridians. As a kid, my moms' brother sent us lemons, from his tree, that looked like oranges, oranges that looked like grapefruit and grapefruit - all of them were awesome, I mean how could yo forget something like that? But the Florida oranges we get up North, are acidic beyond belief! I can't squeeze a glassful of juice from a Florida orange and drink it. We all want our Florida citrus back!!
@rishabhs4956
@rishabhs4956 2 жыл бұрын
We can call it Greenange then!
@stevenpreston5943
@stevenpreston5943 2 жыл бұрын
Nah sadly if this continues, farmers will be forced to sell their land and we will be flooded with more developments :/ (as a fl resident as well)
@odinata
@odinata 2 жыл бұрын
Thats Big Ag for you.
@User-gfys-0icu81
@User-gfys-0icu81 2 жыл бұрын
@@odinata naw, it’s the fact that nobody wants Florida garbage anymore.
@carlagarrett3244
@carlagarrett3244 2 жыл бұрын
i had no idea this happened- what a true shame, i imagine a totally different crop of fruits will need to be planted now so that as the orange trees go, the new will be able to grow in between
@SunshineCountryChickens
@SunshineCountryChickens 2 жыл бұрын
Theyve sold 40% of the land for housing what do they care about food. Import more people!
@erikwilliams8610
@erikwilliams8610 2 жыл бұрын
The logical solution is to breed the bacteria to be symbiotic if possible. That strain would likely out compete the original one and it would be faster and cheaper than breeding trees.
@StevenStGelais
@StevenStGelais 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikwilliams8610 the bugs would have to be modified to modify the bacteria likely
@erikwilliams8610
@erikwilliams8610 2 жыл бұрын
@@StevenStGelais If the bugs are required to transfer the bacteria you'd need to insure that the new bacteria could out compete the original at infecting the bugs. It is likely the bugs are not required but they would be useful especially for wild environments. Bugs are still much easier to breed than trees however if the new bacteria yields results it's likely the bugs will evolve naturally to host it as the trees will be healthier and therefore give those bugs an advantage when feeding on uninfected trees.
@haggielady
@haggielady 2 жыл бұрын
No new crops will be planted, unless you count homes.
@mochibobochi
@mochibobochi 2 жыл бұрын
I live in central Florida. Orange groves used to be everywhere. Now they've all been wiped out and replaced with housing developments.
@zackakai5173
@zackakai5173 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and low-density, residential-only developments consisting entirely of single family homes on oversized lots surrounding cul-de-sacs at that. I can't help but imagine how much more land we'd still have for things like orange groves if we focused on building walkable neighborhoods with good public transit instead of building everything for private cars.
@drdrew3
@drdrew3 2 жыл бұрын
The groves started disappearing rapidly way BEFORE citrus greening. The housing market in Florida is currently having its biggest growth in history. Smart growers are selling off as quick as they can. Farming citrus is financially unsustainable compared to importing it
@seanmurphree4716
@seanmurphree4716 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Florida, and one of the things I've seen happen at least once or twice were citrus groves, hit hard by greening, converted into McMansions. This state is going through a rough patch.
@gersonsantos5416
@gersonsantos5416 Жыл бұрын
The same thing is happening int the west side of Florida if you're within 25 miles of the beach it's built up.
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is monoculture, growing so many of the exact same clone. If one is vulnerable then they all fall like dominoes, same with bananas and many other crops. Plant some oak trees around the orange orchards and interplant them with guavas. Home gardeners have found that citrus grown like that tend to evade HLB. It might not work on large scale. But even if it does it raises prices. I'd consider diversifying my crops in that case. There's many other fruits that can be grown in FL that fetch decent prices.
@charlessmith3940
@charlessmith3940 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how long that will take. Notice they said the crop dropped 71% between 2020 and 2021. Growing other trees and diversifying crops isn’t going to fix their immediate issue. Their is also a reason they use monoculture and only produce one fruit.
@thiccityd9773
@thiccityd9773 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlessmith3940 The reason is that it’s cheaper, because the individual farmers aren’t held accountable for their negative externalities. The intermediate solution is to just accept having fewer oranges for a while, we can’t let static friction keep destroying our ecosystems.
@curto201
@curto201 2 жыл бұрын
Yes youre a professional. Why arent you working on this situation?
@Napsteraspx
@Napsteraspx 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, in a way, the pests are doing their job: removing the unnatural clones. Farming needs more diversity anyway. Why only one variety at the grocery store of citrus? Why not many more?
@charlessmith3940
@charlessmith3940 2 жыл бұрын
@@Napsteraspx it’s all about cost and efficiency. What you just said is the equivalent to why a specific factory doesn’t produce 500 different types of cotton towels. Vs one. Factories make shit at the cheapest cost to them. They make what they have contracts or a likely hood of selling. Farming is no different. Majority of CERTAIN fruits and vegetables go unpicked cause they aren’t pretty enough for Walmart. Growing different varieties would produce an even greater variance, they could have different harvest times, could be vulnerable to other pest and diseases etc. Majority are fed through machines at some point and this is where size and shape is extremely important. I’m not saying I support mono culture but farming is a tough business and asking them to diversify on a large scale isn’t realistic. As is, they can barely produce a profit
@theblondesiouxsiesioux
@theblondesiouxsiesioux 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid (so like 21 years ago) we had a key lime tree in our back yard. The tree produced so many limes that we never lacked for key limeade. Anyway, move on some years, this perfectly healthy, full grown tree starts to look like the trees they're showing here. My family ended up leaving FL. and eventually, the tree died. I'm sad to see this. 70 percent seems pretty wiped out to me.
@omokaroojiire
@omokaroojiire 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if all the fires we hear about, destroying food processing factories worldwide are linked 🤔
@mehere8038
@mehere8038 2 жыл бұрын
limes really aren't a problem, finger limes are an easy replacement plant for them. It's the oranges that are harder
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Siouxsie Sioux: When in doubt, always focus on soil health. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@theblondesiouxsiesioux
@theblondesiouxsiesioux 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetviolet888 Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it. I wish we used more organic farming. I've been adding back to my current backyard for going on 15 years now. I can see how much the soil has improved. I'm also working on putting in more native plants and trees. As well as dry scaping, since I live in the desert now.
@PacesIII
@PacesIII 2 жыл бұрын
You have to go further than 15 years to see what citrus "once was." 30 years ago, old farmers were dying off and the families started selling off acreage. What's left is overpriced gated communities and corporate owned groves.
@fasx56
@fasx56 2 жыл бұрын
Nunya You have brought to light a problem that is happening all over the country.Millions of people have moved to Florida to Retire and they needed homes to live in so the selling of valuable farm land started thirty years ago and continues. Diseases from other parts of the World are brought in because of International Trade. The Asian Beetle and this Orange Tree Disease are only two imports that are damaging our crops.
@PacesIII
@PacesIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@fasx56 It's a shame that "Indian River" citrus is no longer Indian River citrus. They extended the area that encompasses Indian River fruit because the old area was dwindling to make cheaply built, expensive housing for retirees.
@kinsmart7294
@kinsmart7294 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately americans in that era(and to this day) seemed to forget the value of land, especially producing land.
@psyoperator
@psyoperator 2 жыл бұрын
Yep... and this is little more than BS marketing gibberish for the outrages prices they are about to charge like all the other fake "shortages". Word to the wise for cattle who may fall for this type of propaganda. "Business insider" dont care about you or your family. This is paid for info meant for cattle consumption. I wonder if its as bad as they claim, AND who is paying for this "research"? This sounds like pre curser propaganda to price gauging scheme... IMO.
@PacesIII
@PacesIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@psyoperator Conspiracy much?
@ChurchOfTheHolyMho
@ChurchOfTheHolyMho 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. i had noticed the quality in oranges had gone down in the past few years, but didn't know why. I also noticed more California oranges in the grocery, which and pulpy, less juicy, and flavorless (to my tastebuds compared to the Florida oranges in the past). Very sad to see so many varieties of trees have mass die offs in the past few decades. Horrible. Thanks for this well put together report.
@hnfiiinc5993
@hnfiiinc5993 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. I was a huge OJ self-squeeze fanatic but stopped buying as much when Valencias and other types were getting more expensive. Now, I know why some of the ones I do get aren’t like what I used to make in childhood.
@kellikelli4413
@kellikelli4413 2 жыл бұрын
If the soil becomes spoiled by too much synthetic insecticide the plants cannot flourish... And believe it or not CO2 is crucial for all plants and trees.
@bane8257
@bane8257 2 жыл бұрын
thats why you should plant your own trees... i have a few cara cara orange trees and they produce amazing
@hnfiiinc5993
@hnfiiinc5993 2 жыл бұрын
@@bane8257 I got tangerines, but definitely thinking of oranges.
@bane8257
@bane8257 2 жыл бұрын
@@hnfiiinc5993 tangerines are fire Ihave some trees aswell but yeah bro oranges cant go wrong.. espeiclly CARA CARA... my favorite type of orange brother
@jackson8085
@jackson8085 2 жыл бұрын
There is so much more to this story. Decades of overuse of pesticides, including herbicides to keep away weeds, and salt based fertilizers have basically transformed the farm scape into a sterile petri dish where only super bugs survive. There are people growing healthy citrus on a small scale using natural (ie. real conventional agriculture) methods, and don't need any chemicals.
@Napsteraspx
@Napsteraspx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm learning in college how herbicides literally kill the soil, breeding pests and disease.
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Jackson: Monoculture & pesticide use are only *components* of larger problems. When in doubt, always focus on soil health. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@elizabethh257
@elizabethh257 2 жыл бұрын
YES! The "soil" is dead dirt! The ecosystem and water cycle have been broken through stupidity. In Dale Strickler's soil book he tells about the blight in one orange orchard recovered near where an alligator was buried...and improved soil. Large orchards can be easily turned around in a few years through improving SOIL through regenerative agriculture techniques. Terrible reporting.
@ETN_123
@ETN_123 2 жыл бұрын
I Kew the comments would not disappoint !
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetviolet888 - Exactly. Innoculating the tree roots with mycorhizal fungi helps tremendously. Thats just one of several tactics to strengthen them against disease.
@carfish
@carfish 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of stuff that should freak people out…maybe it sounds strange, but even as a home gardener, I’ve noticed an unprecedented wave of insects and pests in the garden this year. Coupled with little rain (so far) this could be a very bad year for crops. Kinda seems like the bedrock of our country is crumbling.
@clashtwo5066
@clashtwo5066 2 жыл бұрын
When Federal Irregulation destroys the farmlands, that’s when the 2nd Amendment becomes the most important. Do not let these dictators convince you to ruin your food supply.
@paulbraga4460
@paulbraga4460 2 жыл бұрын
@@clashtwo5066 wherever it comes from, federal or state, bad regulation is bad regulation. the solutions to problems like this is clearly outside the paradigm or model or the scientists shown here working on the problem. i am wondering now if any of the farm owners have consulted outfits like AEA - Advancing Eco Agriculture of John Kempf. something is amiss with the nutrition of these plants and part of it goes to the functionality of the soils over there. blessings to all
@Falcodrin
@Falcodrin 2 жыл бұрын
Plus nitrogen fertilizers are hitting all time highs on cost
@defeatSpace
@defeatSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Russian environmental warfare.
@server1ok
@server1ok 2 жыл бұрын
Insects are on the way to extinction. The Trees need Mycorrhiza.
@nodlimax
@nodlimax 2 жыл бұрын
Could this be related to "mono culture" farming? When you have large areas where only one specific type of plant is grown and you then suddenly get something attacking that particular plant type it can easily spread and infect all the others of that kind as well. I've heard about the same stuff happening in other areas where only one type of tree was grown. One type of bug came in and basically destroyed a whole wood. I think the whole "optimization" of food production over the last 100 years has created a problematic situation.
@rageixi1422
@rageixi1422 2 жыл бұрын
Its not related it is the primary reason. People dont like change and reap what they sow. (Pun intended)
@jk-sc4ri
@jk-sc4ri 2 жыл бұрын
The attack on monoculture comes from those who don't know what they're talking about. All forests are monoculture and they do just fine. The issue that there is one crop, the issue is keeping the soil alive and thriving. Pesticude and herbicide hurts the soil in the long run. Unfortunately that's what most commercial growers use. These farmers should be focusing their time and efforts to figure out why forests don't need pest control
@JaKingScomez
@JaKingScomez 2 жыл бұрын
No its the mosquito stop acting ignorant
@nodlimax
@nodlimax 2 жыл бұрын
@@JaKingScomez And now guess why that "mosquito" that apparently is almost exclusively affecting orange trees is spreading aggressively throughout a region that has massive amounts of orange trees...
@yamirdreizehn283
@yamirdreizehn283 2 жыл бұрын
@@jk-sc4ri "All forests are monoculture and they do just fine" what?
@themadatheist1976
@themadatheist1976 2 жыл бұрын
My childhood home lost it's orange trees to the canker purge in the mid 00s and the orange groove across the road got torn down and was turned into a housing development.
@arleensantos3397
@arleensantos3397 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t see many trees anymore… let’s thank all the tearing down of the green areas to build more housing and more structures… so sad.
@oneearthmerged6855
@oneearthmerged6855 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed ): wanna go plant a tree w me ?
@masaharumorimoto4761
@masaharumorimoto4761 2 жыл бұрын
Monoculture, gets 'em every time!!!!
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Masaharu Morimito: Monoculture is only *one component* of many problems. When in doubt, always focus on *soil health*. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetviolet888 good points both of you! I'd add: invasive species. There's not enough inspection on incoming and outgoing ships.
@anhydrouswater
@anhydrouswater 2 жыл бұрын
I actually work at that Florida's natural plant....great place with great people. I have seen this decline....I hope something is done soon...
@thegroovyboi9598
@thegroovyboi9598 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at the plant in umatilla Decent work but shit hours and mildy narcissist managers
@articmars1
@articmars1 2 жыл бұрын
Tell them to try worms in the soil. Or worm tea as a spray.
@Adrian-wd4rn
@Adrian-wd4rn 2 жыл бұрын
I hope nothing is done. This is gods will.
@kuchikopi4631
@kuchikopi4631 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adrian-wd4rn yea, I don't want God to take away my orange juice.
@Adrian-wd4rn
@Adrian-wd4rn 2 жыл бұрын
@@kuchikopi4631 Don't worry, california will pick up the slack, as per usual.
@marjake3147
@marjake3147 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Minnesota, I have noticed two varieties of trees (not orange trees, of course) that have been decimated by insects have survived on our property. First, elm trees that are highly susceptible to Dutch Elm disease and second, we are now losing our ash trees to the Emerald Ash Borer. But I have both of these trees growing on my property and are healthy. I believe the reason for this is that they are in with pine trees. Pine trees give off a powerful scent that I believe is camouflaging those trees. I wonder if something like this would help with the orange trees? They have smudge pots, what if they loaded up the smudge pots with pine oil? It would be worth a try, and if it works I think it would be less expensive?
@TheKingdied
@TheKingdied 2 жыл бұрын
Ty
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, citrus grows just fine under the drip of a live oak. There's no conclusion as to why. Citrus is naturally an understory tree, but growing them like that is not commercially viable so it will never be thoroughly researched.
@jesusislord6545
@jesusislord6545 2 жыл бұрын
Repent to Jesus Christ “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” ‭‭Micah‬ ‭6:8‬ ‭NIV‬‬ h
@PD-we8vf
@PD-we8vf 2 жыл бұрын
Emerald ash boer. Also from China.
@nicolasbertin8552
@nicolasbertin8552 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it's probably because of plant diversity.For citrus, it's the farmers' fault for growing weak trees. Insects only attack weak trees. NEVER healthy ones. In Florida, most of the trees are unhealthy because the planting density is too high, because they use pesticides and herbicides that destroy soil life and kill plant biodiversity. For a healthy grove of trees, you need them far appart, with native vegetation growing everywhere. That's how you get trees that don't attract psyllids. Any time you get insect damage, you need to think "what did I do wrong here ?". It can be a number of things : compacted soil, naked soil, too dense plantating, excess fertilizing, any pesticide, not enough water, too much water, monoculture all the time etc... You can detect plant health with a refractometer, analyzing the sugar content of the leaf. If it's below 12 you're in trouble. When you get sucking insects like psyllid, you're around 6. A few farmers in Florida are above 12 coz they let the wild plants grow, no naked soil, no pesticides, and space their trees properly. In your case, if elm trees are surrounded by many other families of trees, they'll get stronger. Plants exchange nutrients and water through the rhizosphere, and the soil life diversity participates immensely in plant health.
@aq9714
@aq9714 2 жыл бұрын
Well, for a start mono-crops are a huge issue with any variety of food. Look what is happening to the Cavendish banana.
@kalashydra9016
@kalashydra9016 2 жыл бұрын
cavendinsh banana is solved with gmo (not used because people are idiots), the problem with oranges could also most likely be solved that way
@sclapple3192
@sclapple3192 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalashydra9016 Exactly, it isn't solved. If you cannot get people to eat the gmo fruit which is quite fine and in some cases better than normal then it does not solve the problem. For whatever reason they cannot eat gmo's no matter how much they are told that you will be fine and it is not against god to mutate plants to make them better at living.
@musk4mars116
@musk4mars116 2 жыл бұрын
This insect affects all citrus and is now in my area in Southern California. All our backyard trees will become infected. Lemons, limes, oranges, grapefruit.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 2 жыл бұрын
@@sclapple3192 All daddy Bill has to do is infect a few crops and the Anti-GMOers will coming begging to him.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower 2 жыл бұрын
They are using too many synthetics and salts, and not enough fungi, and bacteria that crushes these bugs (easily know pfr97 and met52 work for this)
@BigDaddyKai620
@BigDaddyKai620 2 жыл бұрын
You know ladybugs eat more than just aphids. So often called an aphid Lion because they eat everything. We basically need to stop using all pesticides and that mother nature balance itself out.
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
It is a big investment. Once you stop spraying pesticides, it takes a few years for insect predators to return to the area. During that time, there will be a noticable hit. But if you keep to using pesticides on a regular basis, the problem is only going to get worse in time. Getting off that stuff will only get more difficult and more expensive the longer you wait.
@BigDaddyKai620
@BigDaddyKai620 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yora21 yeah it's real harder to get off that poison. All my years garden. I found out that it's better just to let everything grow. The fastest way to protect our plants is to deter them with other plants that the bugs like. More often than not they usually go after the weeds because I don't take care of them as well like my main crop. When plants are weak. The signal out to the bugs that feed off of them.
@benjaminparent4115
@benjaminparent4115 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if only it was that, easy, crops are plant that were selected to be more beneficial to human with the downside of them becoming incapable of thriving without human care, Mother nature balance will always try to make them extinct, the act itself of planting any type of crops is unbalancing an ecosystem, while it is possible to artificially create new balance to protect crops without pesticide, it is not an 100% safe methode, and you can still experience catastrophical crop failure, to continue on the subject of ladybugs, one of the problem in my region we encounter by relying on them as pest control is that they don't always wake up in times to control the pest. Ladybug start leaving hibernation around 12° celsius but aphid can leave hibernation way earlier in springs at lower temperature, meaning they can wreak havoc completely uncontrolled by ladybugs, this means that crops are often unprotected against aphid in early spring, and can still fail catastrophically fail because of aphid. While bio-controls is the way forward in agriculture, the complexity of such solution caused by the many feedback loop in our ecosytems combined with the vital importance of having a steady food supply means in my opinion that it is impossible with our current technology to entirely get rid of pesticide, but their use can be significantly lowered to level that will not cause unsustainable damage to our environment. Pesticide should not be seen as the enemy but as an exceptionnal tool for exceptionnal situation.
@Tommaso77777
@Tommaso77777 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all the work you are doing to keep the trees fruitful! Im sure technologies will emerge that will help the trees thrive! 😇😇😇
@KarasCyborg
@KarasCyborg 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Key West doesn't have many Key Limes any more. These guys need to read up on Permaculture where instead of row farming where pests can multiply, you plant a food forrest that will harbor predators of the pests so that when they jump out of one tree, they get eaten by something on the next tree. They should have learned from the Dust Bowl that row farming eventually leads to massive environmental damage that takes decades to recover.
@tesha199
@tesha199 2 жыл бұрын
Row farming isn't a problem in itself, the composition of rows is
@KarasCyborg
@KarasCyborg 2 жыл бұрын
@@tesha199 Agreed.
@lovenotes5299
@lovenotes5299 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true! The last few years ,i haven't have any issues with disease or pests in my crops with a big diversity of fruits and vegetables and herbs,fllowers. I did study the dust bowl and other disasters when they monolithic crops of all the same things.
@drdrew3
@drdrew3 2 жыл бұрын
Florida stopped growing key limes almost 30 years ago due to the NAFTA trade agreement. Since then they have primarily come from Mexico. Prior to that cold snaps and hurricanes wiped out the original key lime species. Unless you are over 100 years old you never saw any meaningful amount of limes from the Florida Keys.
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy 2 жыл бұрын
They will know about permaculture, it's an immediate profit issue.
@QAsession
@QAsession 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember when we could get 12 oranges for $1 a couple of decades ago. We faced citrus canker a while back and the state came in and paid us 100 bucks for each of our citrus trees and made us knock them down ( we had limes and sour oranges). Florida is riddled with agricultural issues.
@Mario-re2qp
@Mario-re2qp 2 жыл бұрын
still remember food was still somewhat affordable until the deep state Bi-den regime was installed
@mushieslushie
@mushieslushie 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when everything was cheaper decades ago.
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I'm on vacation to southern Europe, I keep getting amazed at how orange juice can taste. Both the juice and fresh oranges we get in Germany are a far cry from it. I imagine these growth inhibited oranges taste just as disappointing.
@QAsession
@QAsession 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yora21 According to the video, the plague originated in China and moved West...so you might be correct in concluding that the German oranges and the Florida oranges share similar tastes. Disappointing is an understatement.
@farishope6540
@farishope6540 2 жыл бұрын
Arabs introduced orange tree to southern Europe, the word for orange in Arabic is pretty similar in pronunciation to the name of the country Portugal.
@drpk6514
@drpk6514 2 жыл бұрын
As a scientist with a PhD in the field, I would say non of these techniques is going to stop the problem. What you need to do is getting rid of the bacteria that infects the plants. To do this the best tool is using symbiotic beneficial bacteria that lives inside plant tissues. I think Streptomysis is the best group. They have antibiotic which kill bad bacteria. They also help plants with up taking the nutrients. Start by using Actinovate a product that already exists in the market with a streptomysis endophyte.
@reensure
@reensure 2 жыл бұрын
Or symbiotic bacteria that are favored by nematodes.
@vacexpert2020
@vacexpert2020 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of engineering a plant that is somehow toxic to both the bug and bacteria while being harmless to humans or have sacrificial plants that are toxic to the bug and bacteria as a big F U to both, might drive down the population
@stephens7291
@stephens7291 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you know what you're talking about...maybe the $9 Billion citrus industry would like to setup a lunch with you? Panera might be nice...
@garretts.2003
@garretts.2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephens7291 lol seriously. He really thinks he outsmarted the 9b citrus industry that has been working on this problem for decades.
@reensure
@reensure 2 жыл бұрын
@@garretts.2003 It's a mistake to think of the 'citrus industry' as a monolith. It's not, really, in the same way that Monsanto is the 'GMO corn industry' or the way that 'Made in the U.S.A' is a supply chain. I live in the shadow of a Tropicana plant (PepsiCo and France) and those folk are concerned with the oranges & quality. There's also a USDA Ag department here that works diligently on pests and diseases of citrus. There's also Minute Maid (Coca-Cola), which divested of Floridian oranges years ago. Not so exposed, but remember, 'the industry' focuses on sales & profit and views any disruption as temporary and easily fixed with a change in supply, mixture, or labeling. After lethal yellowing, canker, and now greening (greening is also cold flashing for better sugar content in oranges on the tree, fun fact) the future of Florida orange crops looks shaky.
@harrickvharrick3957
@harrickvharrick3957 2 жыл бұрын
Good bit of reporting, much appreciated!
@SignOfTheTimes008
@SignOfTheTimes008 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Nova Scotia and we used to see Florida oranges come up in some seasons and miss them. I did hear years ago, bits about this. Hopefully they find a solution in the near future.
@shinaskitchenfs344
@shinaskitchenfs344 2 жыл бұрын
consider it from ecological point of view, 15-30 years ago we had more tree and plants near orange grove, a lot more water near the orange grove that support a living habitat for dragon flies. so far the dragon flies seem to be eating any bug that may plague my kumquat, recently start to grow back
@lostescape419
@lostescape419 2 жыл бұрын
It means they have bigger problems
@13bigerdave
@13bigerdave 2 жыл бұрын
no we need to get rid of them pesky bugs all they do is mess up my parties I say we have the military spray pesticide from the sky and kill all the bugs
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Shina's Kitcheb: When in doubt, always focus on soil health. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@shinaskitchenfs344
@shinaskitchenfs344 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetviolet888 that's why i'm not oppose of the fish tank in house.
@shmang1485
@shmang1485 2 жыл бұрын
When life gives you limes... You just paint them orange with a "wax"
@tjcihlar1
@tjcihlar1 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, great video.
@mrwest5552
@mrwest5552 2 жыл бұрын
very informative, Thank You Abby Narishkin.
@suzanne4504
@suzanne4504 2 жыл бұрын
I buy Florida Natural and have for many years I support the growers efforts and found this story very interesting. Thank you!
@LIZZIE-lizzie
@LIZZIE-lizzie 2 жыл бұрын
@ Suzanne Not knowing what part of the country you're from, Florida oranges we get up North are impossibly acidic. The acidic levels of many "Fresh squeezed" O.Js., in your grocers' dairy aisle, have increased considerably - to the point where IF I buy it, Mango-OJ, is the one. People give away or refuse bags of Forida orange green oranges. It really is a shame 😪
@suzanne4504
@suzanne4504 2 жыл бұрын
@@LIZZIE-lizzie I am in Michigan but lived in Jax Beach Pointe Vera for many years. I remember the first Frost of orange crops. Very concerned for the growers.
@tesha199
@tesha199 2 жыл бұрын
@@LIZZIE-lizzie mangoes are better I guess at ripening off the tree?
@ellenbettini3877
@ellenbettini3877 2 жыл бұрын
Cover crop is the key , we did grown orange trees in Brazil , my family use to spray olive oil with water or milk it worked pretty well. Good luck, God bless!
@JA238979
@JA238979 2 жыл бұрын
Cultivar uma fruta asiática em Flórida é naturalmente difícil, porque a terra lá é diferente. Este ano as empresas que vendem suco de laranja vão importar muito do Brasil e outros países.
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Ellen Bettini, thank you for your comment. I was skeptical about your response. I had to look it up (would have helped if you had provided sources of evidence.) See: Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops
@AstroGremlinAmerican
@AstroGremlinAmerican 2 жыл бұрын
One bite from a citrus psyllid carrier and a tree is infected. One bite.
@JA238979
@JA238979 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetviolet888 A diluted solution of pure nicotine was used here in the USA in the past, but it was too dangerous.
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany, we use rapeseed oil instead of olive. Also does the job. However, using these oils with water only works against insects that sit on the leaves. Once a plant has been infected by bacteria, or the bacteria live in the soil, that won't make any difference anymore.
@JD-oh9vz
@JD-oh9vz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing...........my Great Grandfather raised oranges in Vero Beach Florida, but Asian citrus psyllid was not the issue, it was Housing Development and shopping malls. I remember it was some of the sweetest fruit I ever tasted.
@drdrew3
@drdrew3 2 жыл бұрын
Now those deserted fruit packing plants are being turned into breweries that serve grapefruit beer. Gotta love progress !
@mandom4486
@mandom4486 2 жыл бұрын
Bless the workers and the business structure behind finding a solution
@13Maria.Cortez13
@13Maria.Cortez13 Жыл бұрын
100%
@ImTheDudeMan471
@ImTheDudeMan471 2 жыл бұрын
As a Californian, I'd like to clarify why orange juice is promoted in Florida. They grow billions of golf ball size juice oranges. On the other hand, you can grow a regular size orange in California that you can peel and eat..
@fabiantaveras8458
@fabiantaveras8458 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry Cali will be blessed by the same citrus disease in due time.
@jnb756
@jnb756 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabiantaveras8458 shhhh...... don't say that cause then Arizona will be too.... I already had a lemon tree decimated by termites - it just came back about 3/4 full after three years of healing...
@tira2145
@tira2145 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you guys are almost out of water. Good luck with that.
@amberbest6942
@amberbest6942 2 жыл бұрын
Not true. I lived in Florida 30 years. The oranges in people's yards were huge, orange, and you could eat them, and they were sweet. Same with grapefruit.
@enmunate
@enmunate 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabiantaveras8458 I trust the university of California to come up with a response. We have the smartest scientists here. Plus, you know, they aren’t harassed when they want to go to the potty of their choice like they are in Florida.
@yehnahthx
@yehnahthx 2 жыл бұрын
I had incorrectly assumed the green Oranges I saw when travelling outside Australia were due to variety and climate, rather than a bacteria. I really hope the issue is resolved before the insect colonises my country.
@inothome
@inothome 2 жыл бұрын
Other climates do grow healthy green oranges. It's not safe to assume any green orange is green from this bacteria.
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't a green orange a lime?
@inothome
@inothome 2 жыл бұрын
@@Menaceblue3 No, limes are much smaller and a different taste. I see the green oranges in SE Asia a lot and they are full size and very sweet. Supposedly it does not get cool enough to turn the orange when ripe. Since they are green as the grow and turn orange later in the growth cycle.
@desmondmolina3142
@desmondmolina3142 2 жыл бұрын
Oranges in the tropics are naturally green.
@jasonallen3678
@jasonallen3678 2 жыл бұрын
All oranges are not orange in color mate..
@69Emoji
@69Emoji 2 жыл бұрын
This is sad man. Im a Florida native and just a week ago I was looking to see if there were any orange groves around so I could go relive some childhood memories.
@USABESTMBA.COM-NEWS
@USABESTMBA.COM-NEWS 2 жыл бұрын
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@danielhudson4618
@danielhudson4618 2 жыл бұрын
this should be an infomercial all monoculture farmers should have to watch every night before bed
@jeffreysummerhays5922
@jeffreysummerhays5922 2 жыл бұрын
At the 0:49 mark, the professor agrees and says to diversify the crop. I dont think they'd (the farmers) would listen even on nightly repeat.
@nitetrane98
@nitetrane98 2 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, you want somebody to be in charge of telling farmers what they can plant.
@danielhudson4618
@danielhudson4618 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitetrane98 i just think if farmers focused on diversification instead of depending on a single species each year it wouldn't deplete the land as badly and it would be a natural form of insurance. Because if one crop goes badly the likelihood of a different crop doing well is high
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Years ago Orchid Island (located in the Indian River) pink grapefruit used to be something to look forward to in Canada as the final harvest surge shipments would finally include us as well. Five for C$1. Good Times. Then there were none. When I finally looked it up many years later on Google Earth, the place was all subdivisions...
@asiangardening
@asiangardening Жыл бұрын
The orange farm is truly remarkable, with lush trees and a bountiful harvest
@cool7654321
@cool7654321 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen videos of wild orange trees thriving in florida recently despite these greenings.
@elthompson3585
@elthompson3585 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered a wild Tangerine tree growing in the woods that adjoins our property. The fruit is very tiny but delicious. The tree is still healthy. The deer get all the fruit as far as they can reach and I get the rest.
@lostescape419
@lostescape419 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't yet
@cfonde
@cfonde 2 жыл бұрын
@@elthompson3585 Does the deer have any dough? Yeah, 2 bucks.
@johnnyrambles
@johnnyrambles 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of wild orange trees live in South Florida, unfortunately they're mostly inedible "sour" varieties. Nothing quite as disappointing as finding a beautiful tree covered in ripe oranges after a long walk in the woods only to bite into something more sour than a lemon. 😝
@ellee2937
@ellee2937 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrambles when u get lemons 🍋 tasting oranges 🍊 make lemonade its still free & naturally wild nutritious pesticide free fruits lucky u 😄👍🏻
@deepfuckingabundance
@deepfuckingabundance 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see if there are any regenerative farmers in the state and how their pest pressure/yields compare to these conventional farms
@hueytreeman2184
@hueytreeman2184 2 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought too. Have these scientists tried using Regenerative methods? Bio Controls? Polyculture instead of just fields of citrus? Not using synthetic fertilizers?
@kiwibob223
@kiwibob223 2 жыл бұрын
@@hueytreeman2184 poly culture in a single farm surrounded by mono culture couldn't overcome the existing pandemic. Sure think I would grow something else though.
@clashtwo5066
@clashtwo5066 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure if they even whisper Regenerative, a Monsanto representative will come by and salt the land.
@paulzaim7900
@paulzaim7900 2 жыл бұрын
@@hueytreeman2184 Wouldn't make a difference. All it takes is for a psyllid infected with HLB to bite your tree and your tree is done.
@deepfuckingabundance
@deepfuckingabundance 2 жыл бұрын
@@hueytreeman2184 pretty lifeless looking soil in the new field they were planting. Fighting nature is a losing strategy - changing to more frequent but smaller applications of synthetic fertilizer is like adding a few instruments to the band on the deck of the sinking titanic
@Sjalabais
@Sjalabais 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get how spraying the trees with clay works - the bug may not see it, but how does the plant survive with covered leaves?
@nathanheng8954
@nathanheng8954 2 жыл бұрын
Light can still penetrate the leaf. This works with kaolin clay as well.
@gersonsantos5416
@gersonsantos5416 Жыл бұрын
I believe as a Florida resident that this is happening because the big orchards that were once part of the Florida landscape have become parking lots for yet another strip mall. there are very few large scale orange groves in Florida anymore. And the ones that are still around don't yield as much and the fruit isn't as good as once was.
@Teejrocks83
@Teejrocks83 2 жыл бұрын
I love the dichotomy between this and some of your other videos... Poor farmers in a "third world" country protect their livelihood by avoiding mono cultures and segregation of sensitive species to lessen pest transfer from tree to tree. Meanwhile factory farming is mono culture and all of the citrus groves have trees touching, rapidly increasing spread of pests. Edit: And the industry's response is to plant at higher densities ?!? WTF is wrong with factory farms...
@clashtwo5066
@clashtwo5066 2 жыл бұрын
Dumb/gullible people easily buying into the theories of the intellectuals that don’t even make contact with the soil.
@DarthVader-ou2vv
@DarthVader-ou2vv 2 жыл бұрын
Money.. Duh!
@tiefensucht
@tiefensucht 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader-ou2vv Food it not all about money. People don't eat out of fun. Ok, most in the US do.. but.. ;-)
@sanniepstein4835
@sanniepstein4835 2 жыл бұрын
Monoculture isn't necessarily the culprit. Emerald ash borer is devastating trees in very mixed forests.
@nicolasbertin8552
@nicolasbertin8552 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanniepstein4835 what we know is that insects only attack weak plants, or weak parts of the plant (a dead branche or leaf). So you need to take the problem backwards : the insects attacked BECAUSE my tree is weak. Maybe I don't see yet why my tree is weak, but I need to investigate. Scientists suspect a lot of trees get weaker due to climate change, which makes insects attack them. Then other species, more adapted to hotter and dryer climates, will take their place, not being attacked by insects. People think "oh it's an invasive species from Asia that's why it's killing my trees". But that's not true. For example, phylloxera, originating in the US, decimated Europe's vineyards. But it didn't kill all the grapevines : the vines that grew without pruning, grown from seeds, in varied gardens (often on castle walls), survived, some to this day. It simply is that we're raising weak vines with awful practices : they're heavily pruned, all grafted for higher yields, planted on compacted rocky soil that's left bare, with tons of nasty products. The chemicals weren't there at the time the phylloxera hit, but the heavy pruning was. So for the ash trees we need to ask ourselves : what makes them weak ? Could it be global warming ? Could those "very mixed" forests not be that mixed ? If you got 5 species of trees, and no undergrowth, that's not very varied, but if you asked people "how many species of trees in a forest would you need for a biodiversed forest ?" most would probably say 5...
@aldreymenezes7652
@aldreymenezes7652 2 жыл бұрын
It cannot happen any other way, monoculture and no genetic diversity
@ashleylala4293
@ashleylala4293 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a show on Netflix a few yrs ago about Korean Natural Farming. The results were outstanding. I wonder if those beneficial soil microbes could be useful for helping these citrus trees in FL.
@BkNy02
@BkNy02 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen it up close. Acres and acres of orange groves died over 10 years. The land owners sold their properties to housing developers. Now a once quite agriculture area is now changing to a new suburbia.
@captainwin6333
@captainwin6333 2 жыл бұрын
Planting more trees just supplies more food to the pests. A few years down the line you'll be knee deep in them.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, because they invented organic fungi like met52 and pfr97 for these farmers.. the ones here are just uneducated.
@marcelsinky1652
@marcelsinky1652 2 жыл бұрын
yes, let's stop agriculture for a while lol
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Win; When in doubt, always focus on soil health. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@zayonkiber2510
@zayonkiber2510 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my lemon tree got the cities phislid diseases. It was pretty disturbing. Hopefully it gets the proper research
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Darren Navarro: When in doubt, always focus on *soil health*. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@cesarcordova9929
@cesarcordova9929 Жыл бұрын
Citrus 🍊 Freaking greening hope they make a breakthrough sooner than later 🙏
@T3RRY_T3RR0R
@T3RRY_T3RR0R 2 жыл бұрын
Given the main problem is root decay after bacterial infection, Grafting onto rootstock that is not as vulnerable to the disease could be a viable solution.
@andersnrregren9087
@andersnrregren9087 2 жыл бұрын
I had some trees come back after treating roots with large amount of mellases and mycorhiza
@marlan5470
@marlan5470 2 жыл бұрын
You call that a tree? It's a BUSH. A huge monoculture of stressed out bushes. The bug is not a pest: it's an indicator of the things the grower is doing WRONG. Those bushes won't be older than 10 years old before they start dying.
@ThePinkBinks
@ThePinkBinks 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Everything is wrong now.
@weseehowcommiegoogleis3770
@weseehowcommiegoogleis3770 2 жыл бұрын
I guess one mouth knows more than a whole industry? Hush child of arrogance.
@sunnysuryani5674
@sunnysuryani5674 2 жыл бұрын
and his solution was to increase the density from 140 trees to 300/acre lmao they are torturing the land
@Junkinsally
@Junkinsally 2 жыл бұрын
Please educate yourself. Yes, sweetie it’s a tree and no it’s not a “monoculture”. People are just plain ignorant. Commercial citrus farms grow more than one variety. To be a “monoculture” you grow only one variety of one species. The modern commercial banana industry is monoculture, the citrus industry is not.
@nitetrane98
@nitetrane98 2 жыл бұрын
That's right, it's not the bug's fault all these trees are dying. The bug is not a pest. It's beneficial to something, right? It's the growers fault.
@brandonnleyva100
@brandonnleyva100 2 жыл бұрын
All I learned is that making huge fields of cash crops messed with the soil and now the tree's don't have the nutrients to defend themselves from disease
@jairosoto2740
@jairosoto2740 2 жыл бұрын
thanks desantis!!
@jackmccann1291
@jackmccann1291 2 жыл бұрын
Drop the monocrop! Diversify the landscape, grow resilience.
@kevinli6544
@kevinli6544 2 жыл бұрын
I went to florida last week and I notice not many oranges from florida, just orange juice (local shops).
@AgriTech-x6v
@AgriTech-x6v 14 күн бұрын
This is exactly what our world needs to sustainably feed a growing population.
@ellwitz9838
@ellwitz9838 2 жыл бұрын
Well now I know why I saw so many oranges from Spain and South Africa this winter. Kept looking for the US oranges but were hard to find
@Solus6464
@Solus6464 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when only one strain of citrus tree exists. Corn is having the same problem no bio diversity. Truly stupid
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
The current banana crop is probably on its way out. And the current bananas are already the replacement for the type that went nearly extinct in the 50s. We really need to get past the idea of finding one universal replacement again. Or we'll have the same issue showing up again half a century later.
@patrickmcmahon1974
@patrickmcmahon1974 2 жыл бұрын
You realize there are hundreds of citrus varieties, with numerous root-stocks and fruit bud varieties right? my family grows 7 different types alone
@nichster080
@nichster080 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmcmahon1974 NO! THERE IS ONLY 1 TYPE OF ORANGE, THE ORANGE KIND!... on another note, why is it always china? lol
@harishrv
@harishrv 2 жыл бұрын
The humus underneath an orange tree has to be nutritionally rich for a n immune resistant tree along with good sunshine between two trees. In addition Vedic practice of spraying neem or turmeric upon leaves at least twice a year might solve this production problem
@theclimbingchef
@theclimbingchef 2 жыл бұрын
There's no cover crop.....it's not just the bugs, it's the whole ecosystem that's messed up. Watch the biggest little farm
@vickananda
@vickananda 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Harish! so right! There are so many things missing in this farming plan as you and others are pointing out. To improve the brix, improve the soil/hummus and add microorganisms that are easily cultured from rice water and milk (lactobacillus) and mineral sprays from natural hummic and fulvic sources, instead of "insecticide" See regenerative farming, and do the right thing !
@ShutThePuck
@ShutThePuck 2 жыл бұрын
The way we grow, market, and consume food needs to change completely. Mono culture farming has to be reversed, I get that people want the exact same flavour, the best looking, ripest, most textbook fruit or vegetables possible but this kind of risk is not worth it.
@wheelbarrowfriend2035
@wheelbarrowfriend2035 2 жыл бұрын
Buyers have little say in things. Grow the cheapest oranges that last the longest for shipping and on the shelves. Same goes for other other fruits like bananas. We have the worse tasting bananas and hardly any buyer knows this because it’s the only option we have been exposed to for generations. Wake up America. Demand quality over cheap quantity.
@Gardeningnature768
@Gardeningnature768 Жыл бұрын
Wow oranges farming so many harvest ❤
@winstv2713
@winstv2713 2 жыл бұрын
Its so hard to grow fruits, knowing that super market just throw it out even it is still good to consume.
@apexcapital1328
@apexcapital1328 2 жыл бұрын
Take the opportunity to introduce a new verity! Lime orange! Sell it to bars as an natural sour mix, come on people.
@violetviolet888
@violetviolet888 2 жыл бұрын
Apex Capital, the disease affects all citrus. When in doubt, always focus on *soil health*. Some farmers are seeing their trees come back because they are focusing on soil health: See: _Citrus Grower Sees Success with Cover Crops_ Insects are attracted to weak plants. Start with healthy soil without pesticides and you'll have healthy plants.
@lotus....
@lotus.... 2 жыл бұрын
I live in FL and at Walmart and other grocery stores oranges are about a dollar a piece! Crazy!
@TheHiredGun187
@TheHiredGun187 2 жыл бұрын
There were a coupla summers I worked the orange harvests back in the late 1980s. Man those trees used to be bigger....greener and the oranges were big and bright orange. Damn FL got pounded
@lanthid3141
@lanthid3141 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine not learning from all other failed/threatened monocrops and begin to loose a whole industry to insects lul
@clashtwo5066
@clashtwo5066 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the end goal of the Gates/Monsanto agenda: force humanity to depend on food that can’t be grown in nature because the monopolized industry has disturbed nature to the point that all the food becomes manipulated and destroyed by nature; Kill the predatory insects and pollinators so that monopolized industries must be paid to do the job with less than 10% efficacy; Destroy the farmland so that farmers must rely on being employed by monopolized industry to make any living at all. These reasons alone are why the 2nd Amendment exists.
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine not understanding that this insect destroys all citrus crops, not just oranges.
@todd5687
@todd5687 2 жыл бұрын
@@nobodyspecial4702 🤦🏻‍♂️ that's not what people mean when they say don't do monocrops. they mean completely different crops
@lostescape419
@lostescape419 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine people talk about what they don't know
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 2 жыл бұрын
@@todd5687 People that don't seem to be farmers have a lot of hair brained ideas.
@seagullman87
@seagullman87 2 жыл бұрын
I like how they admit that the green oranges are still edible at the beginning, yet they still cant find a way to sell them
@-TheBugLord
@-TheBugLord 2 жыл бұрын
It's because Americans are some of the pickiest people in the world
@meman6964
@meman6964 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy the local fruit, but since they have to pay the pickers, so zero profit
@djh9816
@djh9816 2 жыл бұрын
its all mass production. i dont feel sorry for them. go organic, smaller farms
@samnosip8018
@samnosip8018 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had oranges that had this disease and it tastes closer to a lemon. Very sour and hard to eat on its own
@obosuck
@obosuck 2 жыл бұрын
It was a bit misleading, they do later bite one and are like "that tastes horrible" so it's not like they are just small green oranges that are otherwise the same. At this point I don't even understand why they would want to process the orange for the juice, guess we will all be drinking sunny D now, lol.
@Pablo-ds6ip
@Pablo-ds6ip 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that crazy there mad orange in the desert lmao I’m from Phoenix, AZ
@ThreeRunHomer
@ThreeRunHomer 2 жыл бұрын
Central Florida is an extremely weird place to visit. South of Lake Wales there are hardly any people, just miles and miles of citrus orchards. The land is sand (there are sand dunes far from the ocean) which lets the pesticides used on the orchards flow right down into the groundwater.
@infinitywalks4504
@infinitywalks4504 2 жыл бұрын
Not only in Florida.. even here in Indonesia we the same citrus problem, Fruit Fly.
@WilliamCrandell
@WilliamCrandell 2 жыл бұрын
I miss boxes of oranges we got as children ....
@drticktock4011
@drticktock4011 2 жыл бұрын
There is a professor at UC Riverside who has made great strides in greening.
@legalyzeit
@legalyzeit 2 жыл бұрын
my friend has 100s of citrus growing under oak and pine canopy without disease in Melrose area. This seems to be the way
@matthewwithum8372
@matthewwithum8372 2 жыл бұрын
Tampa Bay area Citrus has been gone for a decade + now.
@juanfernandorestrepo1267
@juanfernandorestrepo1267 2 жыл бұрын
Sick soils, produce sick trees, and sick trees can't mantain healthy soils, the agriculture needs to be rethink.
@fern8580
@fern8580 2 жыл бұрын
7:27 ❤I am curious and interested in having the address of the plant producer.
@ailutepdavid7766
@ailutepdavid7766 Жыл бұрын
We've been having this problem since 2009 in Jamaica, and I suspect it started off earlier than that. Most of the trees in many of the largest orchards have died, and our largest grower had to burn their entire nursery. A few years before this, it was the tristeza virus, and it was solved by grafting the desired variety onto sour orange stocks. But budding and grafting doesn't help this one. It's pretty disheartening when you pass through parishes such as Saint Catherine which was dubbed citrus country and had the signs 'Welcome to Orange country.'
@raymondherbst7126
@raymondherbst7126 2 жыл бұрын
And everyone wonders why there are fruit and plant inspections/searches at certain roadways in CA & AZ or why Hawaii and US Agriculture inspections at airports out of Puerto Rico and other countries headed for the US. Now you know why we need to help keep the un-inspected plants & fruits from coming in.
@MountainMan7.62x39
@MountainMan7.62x39 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, we need a wall
@suzk1804
@suzk1804 2 жыл бұрын
@@MountainMan7.62x39 Yes to keep out all the invasive species!
@philphilips1020
@philphilips1020 2 жыл бұрын
This coming from "Business Insider" notice that they didn't mention the biggest parasite and threat to agriculture in my home state of Florida,... DEVELOPERS.
@jaded1669
@jaded1669 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 2 жыл бұрын
dumbass boomers like this one, are the reason why the government never allows high density living, why theres a massive drought of supply, and why house prices are soaring through the roof. Next time someone crying abt the housing market, instead of blaming some stupid shit like gentrification, how about you blame clowns like these, for destroying any chance the next generation has in terms of owning a house. Seriously yall need to be shot on site. Eminent domain and shit.
@SS40-nah
@SS40-nah 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder why I couldn't find any FL oranges in the grocery stores! I was so angry when I bought a couple oranges wondering why they were so expensive. They were oranges from another country. I live in FL and expected to see FL oranges. 😞
@AllAmericanGuyExpert
@AllAmericanGuyExpert 2 жыл бұрын
When life gives you limes ... make Key Lime Pie
@shanoimelissa3425
@shanoimelissa3425 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to find that balance between saving and living is by investing. This way you get to have your saving intact and then live comfortably off the revenue coming in from your investments. Financial freedom is possible, you just need to know what to do and when to do it. I am a living testimony.
@colinsoder9519
@colinsoder9519 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with all that you have said, this is the reason I have so many investments, financial freedom is my number one go.
@tinamanuel2305
@tinamanuel2305 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen videos, read comments. I am still trying on my own to start investing and it has not been working out for me. What do I do? How do I begin again?
@evelync1504
@evelync1504 2 жыл бұрын
It is not smart to start an investment by yourself when you clearly know nothing about it. I say leave it to the professionals. I use the services of an excellent portfolio manager myself, I don't wanna take chances. I advise you do same.
@krisjeff9023
@krisjeff9023 2 жыл бұрын
Investing all by yourself with no prior experience can be detrimental, you can loose all your money. I will advice you get assistance from a good professional, that way you will not loose your money, plus you will learn more.
@luiscamacho1981
@luiscamacho1981 2 жыл бұрын
Is it still the best time to invest in crypto with the current market situation ?
@monkeybusiness2204
@monkeybusiness2204 2 жыл бұрын
This is very similar to what had happened to the banana plantation.
@cainmathewson1857
@cainmathewson1857 Жыл бұрын
"There's nothing wrong with this juice.... Oh, that's awful!" Couldn't even lie to us lol oh this is bad
@rae3430
@rae3430 Жыл бұрын
i would have loved another hour of the UF researchers talking about developing new resistant varieties. i don’t think a lot of people realize how many crops only grow commercially in florida thanks to varieties developed in the last couple decades, many out of UF. (once it would have been unthinkable that i could drive past a blueberry farm here) something that brings me hope too is seeing more horticulturists starting to advocate for growing more fruit trees from seed. it’s so heavily discouraged because the fruit is a dice roll but we wouldn’t be feeling the impacts nearly as hard if there was more genetic diversity and fewer orchards full of clones. i would even think just having more varieties of rootstock would relieve some of the pressure
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