Yes exactly what I was going to say completely different.

Plus ginger "people" don't have souls.

Shame Ed's a Bradford fan ;)

Yeah they are footballers not exactly known as being the brightest bunch

​@Seoirse Neverwinter they just misremembered the story 😂 calm yourself

They're owned by Norwich, are they not?

@@tysonkuresa5830 Ipswich Town FC is owned by Gamechanger 20 Ltd, which is 90% owned by an Ohio-based investment fund.

@@tysonkuresa5830 Only for about 10% of their history the other 90% Ipswich owned Norwich who have never won anything.

Ollie Palmer has a very big chip... takes his words with a pinch of salt.

Also they are playing in a more competitive division. It gets harder to get promoted the higher up you get.

@@delcat8168 Especially given how League One had the likes of Derby, Sheff Weds and Plymouth this season. Very different levels.

@@delcat8168 I respectively disagree - National League the hardest league to get out of. I fully expect Wrexham to get promoted from league 2 next season (first try)

@@ThaUnspokenTruth everything increases a lot more as you go up the pyramid. You’re completing with massive teams that come down and want to get straight back up. The player pool becomes smaller and the costs skyrocket. The gap between leagues gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Wrexham, Rob and Ryan still deserve big credit but this is just wrong.

@@ThaUnspokenTruth The quote 'Hardest League to out get of' refers to the lack of promotion opportunities. And remember this quote has mostly been used for League 1.

True, plus he made even more money on that phone company, he's invested in a ton of good companies and startups, a true smart VC

Appreciate where you are coming from but Ed isn't an owner he's a shirt sponsor. The owners have about $17bn

@@danielbruce3557 I'm aware he's not an owner. It was in relation to other celebs starting g to get involved like JJ watt etc

@@timp1390 unlike other owners of previous proud club/towns, I cannot see them taking out crippling loans out against the club.. And Wrexhams success might interest new investors with the same morals and integrity that Rob and Ryan have, to not just the club but the town as well.. The lead up to the approval to purchase the club the numbers were run by them and it wasn’t just a stab in the dark as who would be that financially inept.

@@timp1390 fair enough mate 👍🏻

I actually don't think they have tons of time.

just wait for welcome to wrexham season 2, prob on 10-ish episode

He doesn't. Just a kit sponsor

Owns a whole 0.0% 😒

I’m not convinced about him he’s like a wish version of Harry Kane his head don’t seem to be in the footy

@@danielroberts7776 from his time at Mansfield all the fans recognised his work rate and effort he was just criticized for his lack of goals for a striker. But my honest opinion his work rate and the challenges he won and chances he creates made up for that

They're football players. Not really intelligent heavyweights

Cheer up, their replacing the tents with a roof on stilts…

Instagram followers, not pounds or dollars 🤣

They were talking about ig followers. But even so did he even have more than 20% of Aviation Gin when they sold? Of which they “only” got like 55% cash upfront and then taxes too don’t forget. So not like he’s got 600 mill sitting in an account somewhere.

He sold the gin company a while back. More recently he's just sold a cell phone company for $300M.

I actually think the only difference is… Welcome to Ipswich is not on TV. I do love the show. Like Wrexham. Like Rob and Ryan also but it’s pretty much exactly the same. Filled the stadium, more demand, boosted the community, boosted the team and got them promoted. Same 2 years. I can’t really work out what else is different? If anything it’s been harder?

@@JP-es1nb True. But Ipswich fans aren't a toxic loudmouth fanbase. We're gutted at this ignorance, and passive aggressiveness towards us, because we felt 'twinned' with Wrexham. Ipswich fans probably related the most, and were loving the Wrexham story. Then we got abused by a naive fantasist lol. Have they apologised yet, and corrected it? Or did Ego get in the way.

Holy crap, I didn't know you could invest a pension fund on a football club. If I was a pensioner I don't think I would be comfortable with that.

He's a shirt sponsor not the owner, you'd need to compare Ed with TikTok for a comparison, Ed has done far more

Grow up

@@marcus0297 grow up

Yup, it's short for "association football" as opposed to "ruggers football" (rugby) or "gridiron football" (American). It's a field/ball game that's played on foot, as opposed to polo.

Crying into your pillow? They're great for football and great for the town of Wrexham, grow the hell up

They have a media glow rn. Try to find the joy in it - no one truly expects this team to go far in the short term, the media focus will end Naturally when they don't secure back-to-back promotions.

Ben signed for free and played for expenses and has been said before in these podcasts, most of the Wrexham players aren't on money that they can retire on, hence the side hustles many have got involved in.

Unless they have the same response when a billionaire buys their club, and turn around and say "we didn't really win the league" it's jealousy. Having never heard a Blackburn, Chelsea, Man City, or even Forest Green Rovers fan say that.... it's jealousy.

@@jel5034 Their on ridiculous money compared to there counterparts though that's the point. Look at Mullen for example, do you think he's dropping 1/2 leagues for fun when he was banging them in at a higher level? Regards to Foster I don't know his contact situation but he's done it for publicity and followers because that's obviously the root he's taking now

@@Ceaseless_Watcher Well it's not and I'm telling you it's not jealousy. The only people who can be jealous are people at their level the likes of notts county and anyone else in that division.

@@jel5034 only 3x the wage of every other club in the same league

Football has been about money for a long time now. If you put a wage cap no one would ever invest in these small clubs because there is no financial benefit for investors to be stuck in lower league for a long period of time, and even just maintaining the ground and club is expensive, look at the state Wrexham stadium was, and they almost financially completely folded before, only to be barely saved by fans. In an ideal world all clubs have equal footing, but we live in capitalism mate, and this is what we get

@@brodosam3195 wage cap would save owners money if anything. And league 2 and league 1 standard players would stay there and to gain promotion it couldn’t be bought you’d have to be a lot smarter with bring players and managers in. My team Grimsby we’re in the exact same position as Wrexham. A shit owner took us from div one to the national league in the space of 20 years and without funding raised from fans we wouldn’t be a club. We still managed to get out of the national league on one of the lowest budgets in the top half of the table last season after our new owners spent money the right way. No reason Hollywood fc couldn’t have gone up without bringing in all those big name players

That sounds like jealousy. If you want to get up 4 more tiers, how do you expect to do it? Hopes and dreams? No, you spend like that's your goal. And then you rely on the players to play, the managers to coach, and the office to make the right moves so the spending actually works instead of just dumping money into a non-functional situation. Any team; ANY TEAM; would spend what they need to in order to help accomplish their goals if they had the means. ANY FAN would defend their team spending to do it. As long as it's done right, and with intelligence. So anyone using the money that Wrexham has spent as a reason why what they're doing isn't impressive...well, that's jealousy.

@@joeutm212 Congrats to your team for getting out. Without a big wage budget a lot of things have to go right, you have to have excellent team cohesion and a good coach, and then after you're up you need to somehow keep that team together without losing players to more wealthy clubs, and even try to strengthen it. But my concern is that a wage budget would mean that teams have more difficulty attracting good players across the board in lower leagues because who would want to drop down in leagues then? Talented players would exclusively stay in higher leagues, meaning less talent across the board and a more difficult transition for clubs once you get out and make that promotion to the next level. A big financial injection shortens that time span for advancement through the league system, allowing clubs to "skip" a few leagues, but that's up to the owners how much they want to spend, and even that is not a guarantee. Notts County was very close to winning the league in front of Wrexham despite what the Wrexham owners did. With a wage cap lower leagues would be less interesting for both sponsors and investors alike.

@@brodosam3195 I just don’t agree that bringing talents down to the national league is good for the league overall though. It stops progression of young players and 90% of teams from the national league cant even attract them in the first place, only the rich clubs in nice areas can. If less money is spent on the wage bill more money will be left for the training facilities, youth facilities, the stadium etc and you’ll see a more better structured clubs. Look at bornemouth they were incredibly well structured and had a class young manager and managed to get out of the lower leagues and go to the prem without having to spend ridiculous amounts. Same with Luton. Where as teams like forest green and salford who tried buying there way through the leagues are not stuck in league one/two. As well, the sponsorship argument isn’t true. Yeh Wrexham are gonna get coverage because of the owners being famous but I Crawley got no coverage when they bought there way out. Forest green didn’t. There will also always be talented loanee players in the lower leagues. I guarantee most of the players who are 23 and under in the championship started off with loan spells are national league clubs, I’ve seen loads of them at Grimsby. Siriki dembele at bornemouth. Elliot embeleton at Sunderland. Josh benson are Barnsley, jus to name a few. You don’t need big money signings at 1/2 of the rich clubs in the league to have talented players in the league

Grow up

​@@marcus0297 You read my mind