What Gear Shape Meshes With a Square?

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Morphocular

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How do you design the perfect gear to partner with a given shape? It's tempting to think the way to do it is to treat both gears as if they're rolling on each other without slipping, but it turns out most gears by their very nature must slip as they spin. Why is that?
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0:00 - Wheels are not gears!
2:03 - What's wrong with wheels?
5:32 - Ground News ad
7:21 - How to design actual gears
12:07 - Envelopes
18:50 - Parametrizing an orbiting gear
22:04 - Computing the envelope
25:22 - Example gear pairs
29:05 - Resolving road-wheel clipping
30:39 - Outro
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The animation of the moving point of contact between two gears comes from Claudio Rocchini. Original source: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
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@morphocular
@morphocular 23 күн бұрын
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@prbmax
@prbmax 23 күн бұрын
Thanks. Even without knowing or having all the math skills, I still learned much.
@lovishnahar1807
@lovishnahar1807 23 күн бұрын
very good video sir, but can you plz try to make video related to calculus and infinities , also matrix and why determinant as area moreover why cross product can be calculated as determinant, just what is linear algebra
@iteragami5078
@iteragami5078 21 күн бұрын
Interesting video! I was wondering if you can create a gear pair for a fractal shape such as a Koch snowflake or the coastline of a country?
@haipingcao2212
@haipingcao2212 18 күн бұрын
Make more vids for this
@haipingcao2212
@haipingcao2212 18 күн бұрын
❤❤❤
@guymcproblems7972
@guymcproblems7972 23 күн бұрын
As a mechanical engineer, I feel qualified enough to say this an amazing way to look at gear design. Definitely a different perspective than Ive seen, but I enjoy seeing it from someone with more of a math than engineering background
@nikkiofthevalley
@nikkiofthevalley 23 күн бұрын
Obviously there are major things that this video doesn't take into account, but would this algorithm work at all for real-life gears, not caring about inefficiencies or wear?
@guymcproblems7972
@guymcproblems7972 23 күн бұрын
@@nikkiofthevalley I will be printing gears tomorrow to find out lol
@exotic1405
@exotic1405 23 күн бұрын
Just replying to stay updated
@dantebroggi3734
@dantebroggi3734 23 күн бұрын
Interesting. Replying to stay updated, too.
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 23 күн бұрын
This video is amazing, no qualifications needed.
@Codexionyx101
@Codexionyx101 23 күн бұрын
It now makes a lot of sense why gearboxes are almost always lubricated - they need to slide past each other in order to work, even though they don't look like they're sliding!
@damiansmith5294
@damiansmith5294 23 күн бұрын
That's also where a significant amount of driveline losses come from then! Lot'sa heat!
@electromummyfied1538
@electromummyfied1538 21 күн бұрын
This is mostly wrong.
@electromummyfied1538
@electromummyfied1538 21 күн бұрын
Gear shouldn't slide past each other. They would never last if that was the case.
@Empika
@Empika 20 күн бұрын
​@@electromummyfied1538did you watch the video lol
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 20 күн бұрын
@@electromummyfied1538 mathematically wrong?
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 23 күн бұрын
25:20 Great examples, but I kinda wish we saw them animated as actual gears too, in addition to the rolling versions
@yqisq6966
@yqisq6966 23 күн бұрын
Didn't expect the envelope can be solved for a closed shape. That's so cool.
@two_squared
@two_squared 23 күн бұрын
The long awaited sequel, I loved the road one.
@Rudmin
@Rudmin 23 күн бұрын
I love this approach. Not a lot of new work on gear shapes in the last century, but modern 3D printing makes it easier than ever to play around with fun and nonstandard gear shapes. If you’re researching this, “conjugate action” is the technical term for gears moving at constant angular velocities. Also if anyone wants to know why involute gears are the global standard, it’s because of one more requirement which is constant pressure angle which also reduces vibrations. Also sliding action is often desirable for real world gears. The gears in your car transmission for usually kept in an oil bath and have hydrodynamic contact with each other so that the gear teeth never actually touch, they slide on a microscopic layer of oil. If you look closely, the spot on the teeth that typically sees the most wear is actually the one spot where the sliding velocity hits zero because that’s where they make metal on metal contact.
@jamesandersen3007
@jamesandersen3007 23 күн бұрын
18:50 - 25:20 Hmmmm I’m sensing a hidden connection to Fourier series and their epicycles when it comes to the construction of smooth gears. Seeing the formulas for the gears and then the algebraic construction of the gamma function parameterization with t in terms of s had had those ideas flowing through my head, Stellar work really sir.
@xenontesla122
@xenontesla122 21 күн бұрын
You might be onto something… Epicycloids and hypocycloids can perfectly roll inside each other.
@1471SirFrederickBanbury
@1471SirFrederickBanbury 21 күн бұрын
Cycloid gear already exist. They’re instrumental to clock making and are some of the few gears with zero sliding motion/friction. They must be spaced with extreme accuracy though, otherwise they go wonky. They most importantly can work without any lubrication, which is why watches and clocks can last so long.
@random-stuff814
@random-stuff814 21 күн бұрын
The two parameter locus of motion (I.e. what you see in the thumbnail) for the generating gear is a field of epitrochoids for external spur gears and a field of hypotrochoids for internal spur gears. So yes, the traced motion of each point on the generating gear is represented by the addition of two rotating vectors with some angular velocity ratio. You could call it a finite Fourier series if you wish. More details are available in my larger comment on this video (a comment + larger one broken in two as replies to myself).
@IsaacPiezac
@IsaacPiezac 21 күн бұрын
As a mechanical engineering student who has an interest in knowing how mechanics equations are derived from first principles, this is a satisfying and informative video. Very awesome.
@eliyahzayin5469
@eliyahzayin5469 23 күн бұрын
Despite gears being the posterchild of mechanical engineering and one of the first machines most kids are introduced to, they are absolutely one of the worst things to actually deal with in terms of designing (at least in terms of undergrad classes) There are an insane number of parameters you have to take into account and it quickly goes into a rabbit-hole of tables and equations. (At least if you want to design a set of gears that will last)
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi 23 күн бұрын
Yeah it absolutely sucks lol. My 3lb battlebot uses 3D printed gears in the drive train and they took forever to get running right. Making them herringbone was even harder.
@dragonmasterlangeweg7625
@dragonmasterlangeweg7625 16 күн бұрын
​@@DigitalJediyeah, gears kinda suck to make. I tried making herringbone gears for a small kinetic sculpture with a sla 3d printer, and I tried so many times before giving up because I was unable to make the gears work and have the right spacing to fit inside the gearbox I was using. I eventually gave up, and got rid of the nonfunctional 3d printed gears and the rest of the 3d printed parts. I probably still have the motor I was trying to use somewhere, but the rest of the stuff is gone
@rodschmidt8952
@rodschmidt8952 15 күн бұрын
How have computers helped this situation?
@kinexkid
@kinexkid 23 күн бұрын
This kind of content really scratches that curiosity based itch in my brain and I'm all for it
@davidlindstrom4383
@davidlindstrom4383 23 күн бұрын
One engineering solution to maintaining the same radial speed for meshed gears is to see the gear as 3-dimensional, and change the teeth from having their peak parallel to the gear's axis to being skewed, so when the gear is meshed with a similar (actually, mirror image) gear, the point of contact slides up or down in the direction of the gears' axes, but at a constant radius for both gears.
@quinnobi42
@quinnobi42 21 күн бұрын
You're talking about helical gears, right? I kind of assumed that they were just normal gears twisted about the axis of rotation, and that if you untwisted them they'd work just like straight cut gears. I'm not sure if what you're saying means that assumption isn't true or not. Also, I thought the helical twist was mainly for noise and wear considerations.
@TaserFish-qn2xy
@TaserFish-qn2xy 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I don't think helical gears suddenly are a whole different beast, but instead just twisted regular gears.
@richardmellish2371
@richardmellish2371 9 күн бұрын
@@quinnobi42 While watching the video I thought of helical gears. It seems to me that those allow the point of contact to remain at the same radius from each axis.
@lerarosalene
@lerarosalene 23 күн бұрын
"Babe, wake up, new Morphocular video just dropped"
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 20 күн бұрын
Said no-one ever ;) Still I did find it very funny comment.
@MattHudsonAtx
@MattHudsonAtx 20 күн бұрын
FreeSCAD library in 3...2...
@razdahooman
@razdahooman 23 күн бұрын
I'm so glad this video came! The variable angular velocity was something that I had noticed in the previous videos and was bothering me, so seeing more of an in-depth exploration of that and the difference between the wheel pairs and the gear pairs is very satisfying! I've loved this whole series!
@thenimbo2
@thenimbo2 23 күн бұрын
The dot/cross product "trick" is because the complex numbers are the 2D Clifford algebra.
@2fifty533
@2fifty533 22 күн бұрын
a•b + a∧b is the geometric product of vectors, but complex numbers are rotors not vectors so this doesn't really explain it well
@georgechiporikov2297
@georgechiporikov2297 22 күн бұрын
@@2fifty533 If you were to translate the common usage of complex numbers into geometric algebra terms, effectively what's going on is that all vectors are arbitrarily left-multiplied by e_x, which makes them into rotors. e_x * v = e_x * (v_x * e_x + v_y * e_y) = v_x + v_y * e_xy = v_x + v_y * i Complex conjugation corresponds to right-multiplication by e_x instead, v_x - v_y * i = v_x - v_y * e_xy = v_x + v_y * e_yx = (v_x * e_x + v_y * e_y) * e_x = v * e_x So his formula, z^* * w Effectively results in a geometric product, = v1 * e_x * e_x * v2 = v1 * v2 It's just that that in common usage complex numbers are used to represent both rotors and vectors, the rotors are naturally identified with complex numbers, but the representation of vectors is a little bit strange when you translate it back into geometric algebra.
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 20 күн бұрын
Jerkiness isn't always something you want to avoid. Look at Mathesian gears, for example, they convert a constant rotational speed into individual steps. It's useful in some cases.
@Nicoder6884
@Nicoder6884 2 күн бұрын
I couldn’t find anything on Google for “Mathesian gears”, but what you’re describing sounds like an intermittent mechanism
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 2 күн бұрын
@@Nicoder6884 Appearantly it's called a geneva drive in english, in German we call it Maltesergetriebe because one of the gears looks like a maltesian cross
@zuthalsoraniz6764
@zuthalsoraniz6764 21 күн бұрын
Another important consideration for real-world gears is mass-manufacturability and interchangeability. This is the reason that the involute gear shape is so dominant: Unlike other shapes for the gear teeth, there the precise gear shape depends only on the pressure angle (the angle that the line of contact makes with a line perpendicular to the line connecting the centers of the two gears), the number of teeth, and the pitch/module (respectively, the number of teeth per unit diameter, and the diameter divided by the number of teeth), but **not** on the details of the meshing gear (though obviously pitch/module and pressure angle have to be equal between two meshing gears). This, and the fact that almost all gears use the same pressure angle (20 degrees) and manufacturing tolerances means that only a small set of standardised gear cutters are required to cut all gears of a given module, no matter how many teeth they have or which tooth number gears they will mesh with.
@Lynx86
@Lynx86 23 күн бұрын
It's a beautiful day when both Sebastian Lague and Morphocular release videos relating to Beziers ❤
@coolreader18
@coolreader18 22 күн бұрын
That's what I was thinking lol - I spoiled myself by watching the font rendering video first and being reminded of beziers being a lerp'd point on a lerp'd line segment
@tobiaspeelen4395
@tobiaspeelen4395 23 күн бұрын
Nice to see another video on the series, i loved the series and am glad to see it return
@vanouper9505
@vanouper9505 23 күн бұрын
I'm confused, how do you have a comment that is "2 hours ago" on this video that uploaded less than "2 hours ago?"
@tobiaspeelen4395
@tobiaspeelen4395 23 күн бұрын
Weird, i uploaded it 40 minutes after the video went online
@pedroalonso7606
@pedroalonso7606 23 күн бұрын
It was a doubt I had since long time ago and you solved it very nicely. Great video!
@ciCCapROSTi
@ciCCapROSTi 21 күн бұрын
Wow, such a great balance of show and science. Good graphics, just deep enough math, very good approach, humble person.
@user-nv4lx7cl4p
@user-nv4lx7cl4p 23 күн бұрын
Exactly. Pressure angle is one of the two measures to know how much a gear should slip or "backlash" backwards.
@soranuareane
@soranuareane 20 күн бұрын
I saw that I wasn't subscribed, despite thoroughly enjoying your videos. I made sure to remedy that mistake as soon as I discovered it. I'm a computer scientist/software engineer. These videos are like candy to me. Thank you so much for covering these fascinating topics in an accessible manner!
@kaisalmon1646
@kaisalmon1646 22 күн бұрын
I've been wishing for this video since Pt3, and never expected my wish to be granted!
@redyau_
@redyau_ 18 күн бұрын
Oh wow, thank you! I've noticed the jerky motion in the last couple videos, and wondered what it would take to deal with it. And now you made a response to exactly that question, awesome!
@elliott614
@elliott614 20 күн бұрын
Wow. I never thought about that but in retrospect it seems so obvious bc gears are either lubricated with lubricants, or made of inherently slick material like Teflon or nylon etc. Wheels are generally maximally grippy
@zoryion3867
@zoryion3867 23 күн бұрын
We've all been waiting for the next episode, very fun to learn that way :)
@abhimanyukar
@abhimanyukar 7 күн бұрын
As we are taught in undergrad mechanical engineering: theoretically, most gears have involute profile which perfectly roll over each other. But the speed ratio varies since the point of contact moves radially. I don't know why you did not mention this basic stuff. Clocks use cycloidal gears which often have constant speed ratios but have sliding and more strength which make more sound due to sliding.
@LordFencer
@LordFencer 23 күн бұрын
so brilliant!! I'm astonished!
@featherofajay4667
@featherofajay4667 17 күн бұрын
The only part of the math I understood was the comparison to the check for extrema in calculus, but it was still a nice video and I do now know what envelopes are and that complex numbers are good for calculating something with rotation. And it was very interesting to see the various partner gears that different gear shapes produced.
@whisper3856
@whisper3856 23 күн бұрын
Finally, my favorite wheel math content creator uploaded!
@bartleyhoran9833
@bartleyhoran9833 23 күн бұрын
I love how you played the algorithm and annoyingly me while im studying for my topology and fluid mechanics exams this week.
@tulpjeeen
@tulpjeeen 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for making it clear that gears have to slide. Especially around cycloidal gear teeth, there is a widespread misconception that the gear teeth are rolling against each other.
@recursiveslacker7730
@recursiveslacker7730 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, learning there’s not just incidental/thermodynamically demanded energy loss from friction, but that sliding is literally necessary for smooth motion was an eye-opener.
@circuitguy1010
@circuitguy1010 21 күн бұрын
I loved watching the series prior to this video. Cool to see a new vid on it!
@bigyeet5587
@bigyeet5587 10 күн бұрын
I love math but something about the music in these videos and your voice is soothing and makes me so sleepy sometimes. I’ll doze off until halfway through the video and then I have to go back several chapters 😅
@serkanmuhcu1270
@serkanmuhcu1270 22 күн бұрын
26:17 this reminded me of the mathologer video about modulo times tables. I bet that a gear that is just a line would pair with a cardioid gear.
@LuizPoublan
@LuizPoublan 23 күн бұрын
Brilliant as usual
@terdragontra8900
@terdragontra8900 23 күн бұрын
Envelopes are like, my favorite thing, I particularly like the envelope I discovered independently of a line segment of constant length, with the endpoints bound to the x and y axes: the astroid, with equation x^(2/3) + y^(2/3) = 1, and somehow a length of exactly 6.
@thisisrylieproductions6974
@thisisrylieproductions6974 23 күн бұрын
Yessssssss Finally a new morphocular vid
@KhalilEstell
@KhalilEstell 21 күн бұрын
I saw the painted gear part and had to thumbs up and give a comment. That is so cool!
@naturecomics
@naturecomics 18 күн бұрын
I was able to get Desmos's graphing calculator to make the envelopes and I think your analysis of what goes wrong with the ellipse is correct. As the distance between the axles decreases eventually the inner envelope starts to self intersect, which in this case indicates that there are moments where the source gear is no longer in contact with the partner gear assuming you shave off the areas created by the self-intersection. Interestingly, as you continue decreasing the distance the inner and outer envelopes meet and then each become discontinuous, forming two new curves - I think this is when the output is an error for you. I plan on doing the same for a rack and pinion using a given pinion (and maybe vice versa, though that might be harder).
@alexandredevert4935
@alexandredevert4935 14 күн бұрын
Turns out I solved the envelope problem to draw very accurate involute gears for my own need recently. Being the caveman I am, I did it much less elegantly, brute-forcing it with algebra and questionable calculus. Your approach is so much more elegant
@iveeuwu
@iveeuwu 23 күн бұрын
I remember suggesting the clipping thing! not sure if you came up with it on your own before me, or my email was what gave u the idea, but either way im happy to see it
@BleachWizz
@BleachWizz 23 күн бұрын
20:00 - after seeing triangles and hexagons I believe it's the constant rate of change of R along the edges. Since they're straight it helps; also in the limit with infinite sides it becomes a circle so more sides should make them more alike;
@englishchannel7
@englishchannel7 23 күн бұрын
Great video! I think it would be cool to see the last animations with both gears at fixed points to see what they would look like in real life.
@varunahlawat169
@varunahlawat169 17 күн бұрын
you've nailed teaching
@julia_qwerty
@julia_qwerty 23 күн бұрын
YEEES A NEW EPISODE OF WEIRD WHEELS SERIES
@NickAndriadze
@NickAndriadze 14 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this very mathematical take on the concept of gear engineering, very interesting, informative and fun. Also damn, that offset axle oval gear looks so interesting! I wonder if making it that much larger would produce more of the indents that it produced on a smaller scale, as currently it only has two.
@heisenberg_fisher2890
@heisenberg_fisher2890 19 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you very much.
@Tomasu321
@Tomasu321 13 күн бұрын
Submit this to Summer of Math Exposition! Fantastic video
@appa609
@appa609 20 күн бұрын
This is amazing.
@sparrowthenerd
@sparrowthenerd 13 сағат бұрын
Your explanation of the envelope is fascinatingly similar to the math behind (I think) splines (or was it bezier curves?). Very interesting!
@penguincute3564
@penguincute3564 23 күн бұрын
The well anticipated sequel finally comes.
@epremier20050
@epremier20050 20 күн бұрын
27:43 Incidentally, this internally meshed gear seems to be how the Wankel rotary engine is designed with a circular triangle inside forming an epitrochoid that the inside gear not only spin around, but also run the internal combustion cycle to run the engine.
@varunahlawat169
@varunahlawat169 17 күн бұрын
Do you know what's most impressive to me? When someone shows me how to use basic tools and put them to real life use, in a very out of the box. I try to do this often, but it's very hard to come accross things like these!! How do you come across such things, and then also put it so beautifully in a video??
@TemPo_ACCOUNCO
@TemPo_ACCOUNCO 3 күн бұрын
Camus' theorem would give good insight. 27:00 The error can be interpreted as being caused by the gear gets inside-out in some point. It is interesting problem that how much the gear's projection can gouge out its pair-gear without causing errors or slipping through.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 23 күн бұрын
15:44 This part is really clever!
@corsaro0071
@corsaro0071 22 күн бұрын
Great work and great content
@morphocular
@morphocular 22 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@gcewing
@gcewing 20 күн бұрын
Sweeping out negative space is essentially the way that some types of gear cutting machines work. You have a tool which is shaped like a gear with cutting teeth, and you rotate it together with a gear blank in the same way that two meshing gears would move. All the parts of the blank that aren't part of the matching gear shape get cut away.
@evilded2
@evilded2 6 күн бұрын
My approach to this sort of gear question when playing around with it in the past was to define a shape as a function of radius over angle (0 to 2π). Then using that function to approximately generate a polygon. Interesting.
@Schule04
@Schule04 21 күн бұрын
Thanks doc
@JTCF
@JTCF 20 күн бұрын
Thanks, you gave me an idea of a breakthrough in one of my math-heavy projects, I will spend countless hours researching and it will all be your fault. Sincere thanks.
@maxdon2001
@maxdon2001 2 күн бұрын
Great video!
@mechadense
@mechadense 19 күн бұрын
Awesome ⚙️s video. Thanks. Advertized it on X-platform.
@phibik
@phibik 23 күн бұрын
Best animations I've seen, if some4 will come out, you can easily win
@rodschmidt8952
@rodschmidt8952 15 күн бұрын
In an advanced calculus book, I saw a derivation of an integral equation which will give you the curve for the tooth of a partner gear, given any (reasonable) curve for the tooth of the first gear, under the explicit assumption that they roll on each other with no slipping
@DylanPiep
@DylanPiep 17 күн бұрын
This incredible! I'm curious if there's a way to solve for f(s) such that, we could find a function whose gear partner envelope is the original function, probably with some angular offset. I know a circle is a trivial solution to this, but, I wonder if there's a whole family of functions.
@alienbroccoli8296
@alienbroccoli8296 23 күн бұрын
Hey morpho! I think it would be easier to say that, if velocity vectors of changing s and t are parallel [17:11], then del gamma/del s = (lambda) * del gamma/del t I solved the example envelopes as well as the general equation using the lambda parameter and it doesn’t involve the “unusual” albeit beautiful step of pulling out f’(s) from the Re{.} part (which you did in the complete derivation). Both the conditions are essentially the same but i thought i would share this. Great video btw!
@maeysinaleko
@maeysinaleko 23 күн бұрын
A true popularization masterclass! Thank you The serie remind me slightly of the news of a team that invented an algorithm to create a 3D shape that would follows any predetermined path (trajectoïd)! Maybe an idea for a futur video? :)
@vibaj16
@vibaj16 5 күн бұрын
next step for this series could be figuring out how to find gear shapes where the counterpart is the same shape, so if you wanted to make a bunch gears that mesh with each other, you could just make a bunch of the same gear shape
@asdfghyter
@asdfghyter 10 күн бұрын
23:39 i think some of the expressions might become simpler or at least more intuitive if you go back to vector representation somewhere here. in particular, Re[f’(s)/|f’(s)|*f(s)] is just the projection of f(s) onto f’(s). -in other words, it’s the radial component of the derivative- you might also be able to eliminate the cos-1, since we immediately take the cosine of it afterwards, but maybe not, since we’re multiplying it with things in the meantime
@ZeroPlayerGame
@ZeroPlayerGame 17 күн бұрын
Interesting domain for that solution! In the parens we have dot(normalized tangent, radius vector), so all in all this means "gear radius projected on tangent to contact point is no greater part of R than w'/(w+w')". It's sort of a lever rule, but for angular speeds, and reflects the common design that the gears' average radii are in ratio with their number of teeth (in that case you can make all the teeth the same).
@somethingforsenro
@somethingforsenro 22 сағат бұрын
i noticed the variable angle velocity in ep 1, and now i feel proud of myself
@JaredBrewerAerospace
@JaredBrewerAerospace 15 күн бұрын
@24:00 I'm astonished that the solution stays closed form when I imagine all of the different types of gears in my head in particular, square and triangular teeth. To no surprise, as you developed your solution your mathematics are starting to look more like the equations used for cams and lobes. At the end of the day, all mechanisms are going to be an inclined plane, lever arm, wedge, pulley or some combination.
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 Сағат бұрын
Your intuition about some kind of "self-intersection" of the envelope is on the point for the artifacts. Just like how zero derivative is necessary but not sufficient for a maxima or minima, the envelope condition used is necessary but not sufficient for the type of envelope wanted here. If the curve traces out some kind of interior envelope, that will be caught too, and mess up the result. Additionally, the full failure is probably since not all positions of the gear necessarily have to correspond to being part of the envelope. That is, the gear at the positions for which the formula fails is entirely inside of the envelope, not touching it. I'm also not sure it would handle correctly the cases where multiple points or sections of the gear shape at a position are part of the envelope. In any of those cases however, the real-world implications is that the parameters set up are impossible to construct a normal gear for. Either the force transfer is not in the correct direction to couple the motions, and/or the gears would physically separate and not transfer motion. It may still be useful for things like cam systems, where the motion wanted is to pause (while the gears are not in contact), like in watch escapements or film projector reels, or if the intent for the gearing is to synchronize motion rather than transfer forces.
@joaopetersonscheffer
@joaopetersonscheffer 18 күн бұрын
i didn't quite get it why this solves the switch problem, you are using another type of switch? also kudos for the project, nicely done!
@woodenpotato7550
@woodenpotato7550 23 күн бұрын
i'll admit it, i wasn't expecting the parametric equations, the partial derivatives and specially the complex numbers
@kyleblake7522
@kyleblake7522 20 күн бұрын
With the internally meshing gears, is it possible to stack multiple gears to create a sort of rotary engine? My understanding is that you could give the shape of a single rotor and create the housing and then another internal gear inside the rotor for the crankshaft. Rotary engines commonly use a gear ratio of 2:3 between the spinning rotor and the crankshaft, but i wonder if there are any other ratios that would work
@oafkad
@oafkad 19 күн бұрын
I was thinking of a weird way to do this. Create a line, where the height of any point on the line matches the length of a line from the center of the gear to the edge of the gear, rotate until you return to the starting position. Once you do this you have a line the length of the border of the original gear. Then you start a new object. Start drawing a line that is as far from the center as the height of this first line. Rotate and keep drawing at that height value. Once you return to the start you will have drawn the second gear. Just keep restarting at the beginning of your height line any time you reach the end. I wonder if i deacribed that well enough...
@oafkad
@oafkad 19 күн бұрын
Oh I guess you are doing this with smart pants math stuff.
@map3935
@map3935 23 күн бұрын
I've seen your 3D Euler's formula video too and both in that video and in this you use linear algebra and complex numbers to manipulate rotations and transformations. I thought that maybe you should consider looking into a topic called geometric algebra, I promise you wont regret it. For example when I saw the equation at 22:52 I laughed knowing how natural of an interpretation it has in geometric algebra. It generalises a lot of things. So may I urge you to maybe do your next video about lets say a rotational topic using geometric algebra perhaps?
@doctorkiwano
@doctorkiwano 19 күн бұрын
I'm imagining an iterative process where we start with a gear and assign it a number of "teeth", select some other number of teeth to construct the partner gear with an appropriate ratio of angular velocities (there seems to be some flexibility in selecting R, which might yield an interesting constraint to explore), construct the partner gear, and then repeat with another number of teeth (again there's flexibility here, making for another interesting tweakable attribute on the iterative process), etc. It seems obvious that for suitably chosen R, the collection of circles would make something of a fixed point for a dynamical system constructed around such an iterative process; is it attractive? What's its basin of attraction? Are there other attractive fixed points? Do any of them closely resemble gear profiles currently in widespread use? What about repulsive fixed points?
@piratepartyftw
@piratepartyftw 23 күн бұрын
If this isn't already known in the literature, I feel like this might be publishable. Some engineers would find this useful. You might consider emailing some engineering professor who would know and offering to coauthor the paper with them.
@studyandburn
@studyandburn 19 күн бұрын
I am yet to be a mechanical engineer, and ai find this very cool, I think this can be used in improving rotary engine design if they didn't already use such a technique for doing so.
@Raye938
@Raye938 23 күн бұрын
In your example with triangle wheel at the end you mentioned it would not be smooth because it's not touching, but it is -- the touching point instantaneously swaps to the tip in all points at which it is unsupported. Doesn't this provide stability since the triangle can't leave the trough it's currently in?
@zygzag
@zygzag 23 күн бұрын
may i suggest looking into geometric algebra? it gives a very clean and simple intuition for the complex conjugate formula for 2d cross and dot products around 23:02
@noobyplayz2840
@noobyplayz2840 22 күн бұрын
yay another video
@deathpigeon2
@deathpigeon2 23 күн бұрын
Is there some sort of gear equivalent to an ideal road? Like, a road which maintains constant angular velocity on a gear-wheel and constant forward velocity relative to the road.
@neopalm2050
@neopalm2050 23 күн бұрын
I feel so smart for catching that the condition was jacobian determinant 0 during that pause.
@jacksonrocks4259
@jacksonrocks4259 23 күн бұрын
4:33 I’m thinking about those weird solids of constant width that aren’t spheres but still roll perfectly smoothly. Would a 2D analog of that work here in addition to circles?
@Vexcenot
@Vexcenot 21 күн бұрын
watching this while playing Epidemic Playstation (1995) BGM in another tab was the best thing ever
@HeavyMetalMouse
@HeavyMetalMouse 3 күн бұрын
An important note about the common misconception that gears 'do not slip' - A pair of linked constant-speed gears can be *modeled* as a pair of circles that do not slip when rolling against each other, when modeling the gear system for its ratios of speed of rotation etc. This is likely the origin of the 'no slip' mistake when talking about gears themselves, as many discussions of gears only focus on the abstraction of the relative radii of non-slipping circles rather than the physical shapes of the 'teeth' of the gears. On the flipside, if we look at a 'conventional gear' (a circular wheel with 'teeth' projections), and then we were to take a sort of 'limit' as the size and number of the teeth grow large but the teeth themselves get smaller, the wheels instead start to look like 'rough circular surfaces' rather than 'toothy wheels'. And two rough surfaces rolling against each other would be expected to have a high amount of friction between them - that is to say, they would 'not slip' across each other. Thus, as conventional gears 'approach' circles physically, the necessary slippage of the macroscopic surfaces against each other of the toothy wheels transitions into the 'non-slip' microscopic surfaces having good friction against each other as two 'circles rolling without slipping'. So you sort of end up with the 'no slip' misconception showing up on 'both ends' of the abstraction. :)
@wherestheshroomsyo
@wherestheshroomsyo 21 күн бұрын
Fantastic video! So, could you let f(s) be unknown, then add the condition that f(s) be the same (similar) shape as it's partner gear, Then solve that ODE for f(s) to get out the shape of a standard common gear? Or is there a family of distinct gears where the partners are similar? At the least, it would be fun to run your algorithm on the equation of a standard gear and verify that the partner is the same.
@76Eliam
@76Eliam 16 күн бұрын
Wow this so bizarre I was also working on trying to find the partner gear of gears of arbitrary shapes and you posted a video on this subject the same week. You solution using complex numbers is definitely more elegant than mine which involved using the epitrochoid curves in cartesian coordinates, but I think the results would be the same. Now the question I was trying to answer, and very similar to the one you answered for partner wheels : what is the _family_ of gears that are their own partner gears ? I'm going to try to find it myself, but I think the challenge could please you.
@ausaramun
@ausaramun 23 күн бұрын
That "let's shift gears" joke made my day lol
@LevySkulk
@LevySkulk 22 күн бұрын
Could you not use several gears in combination with the inner and outer curves to make planetary gears? Quite interesting, have you released this work anywhere? I'd love to try 3D printing some.
@725Jupiter
@725Jupiter 21 күн бұрын
Seeing an ellipse envelope (and its variable speed) makes me wonder if it's possible to combine it with Fourier series and make animations similar to those of 3b1b, but using strangely shaped gears (and maybe gain details with fewer terms) :P
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 21 күн бұрын
The interlocking wheel are gears - a gear is a spinning device using mechanical interlocks to transmit power. There is no requirement on slipping or continuity and there are gears that are specifically designed to give non-uniform rotation even to the point of not rotating at all for large parts (geneva drive).
@chrisgriffith1573
@chrisgriffith1573 9 күн бұрын
Love that you are educational. Hate that your explanations are not conducive to dyslexic individuals. Too many definitive words (representing variables) not represented by any visuals, therefore nothing to hold onto within my mind before you prove your algorithm.
@edwardblair4096
@edwardblair4096 5 күн бұрын
One other condition you completely failed to discuss is that the relative angular moments of the two component gears need to be rationally related. In other words, when the "bigger gear" rotates through a whole circle, the smaller gear needs to rotate through an integer number of revolutions. You could break this requirement somewhat if you are able to take advantage of internal symetry of one (or more) of the gears such that, for example when the larger gear spins once, the smaller gear spins 5 1/2 times. As the smaller gear makes the second circuit, the contact point between the gears will be exactly halfway around the smaller gear than it was during the first revolution. The allowed fractional components are determined based on the symetry present in the given shape. Maybe you discussed this issue in one of your "rolling" videos?
@rothgang
@rothgang 3 күн бұрын
Could you have also found the curve by using the same method as the one used to find locals, but instead of setting the requirement to 0, set it to a continuous function? Or maybe that's what you did just with a different approach?
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