but for everyone 1 person like you theres 1-2 people who have had nothing but problems with shield magazines. many who said issues showed up after 1500 rounds.

@@sly2792004 Since the magazine physically fits maybe another will step forward like Mec-Gar, or the issues be ironed out. I've got 3 magazines now and flawless so far.

...........What a lazy explanation on the part of Glock there. Glock offers 10 round limited magazines for their other pistols, of course they could do the same for the 43x. The issue being missed here is that a 10 round 43, meaning a 10 round version of the 6 rounder gun, is the real prize here. If I can conceal a Glock 19 length grip I'll just carry a Glock 19. That sub compact length grip combined with the narrow 1" form factor is what draws me the the micro 9 type.

@@exnihilo452 Its no longer legal to sell handguns of any type in Canada thanks to Prime Minister Bonzo and his incredible shrinking brain. I'd write the clown a tersely worded letter spelling out my contempt for his lackluster laws but I heard he's to busy waxing his overly hairy mangina to be troubled by concerns from us unwashed peons. The next federal election cycle can't come fast enough up here. I'm gonna run all over my city wearing a Anybody But Trudeau sign

Idk about that sales reps story. Magazine capacity is irrelevant if the state has a roster scheme, and the state wont allow that handgun on said roster. Idk if and which states specifically would or would not have then on the roster of course. I live in a free state.

than they should offer a magazine that people have the choice to buy,

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@Cigars And Whiskey also, it is what they do and know works, and they don't have to worry about steel mags wearing out polymer mag-catches, or metal mag catches wearing out polymer mags.

Glock 48/43/43x aren't even sold in California

It's a total lie btw because then each Glock 19 and 17 should have a 10 Rd mag and higher capacities would be sold seperately

If Gaston is still alive for gen 6, I predict Glock will fall out of favor within a decade. Glock has some work to do on their mags and ergos. Really not that hard though. Just copy Shadow Systems. They should be sweating bullets with the P365 series and PDP's floating around.

Some still claim Wilhelm Bubuts was actually the true brain behind the design. Could be. I still think Mikhail did not truly design the Ak but zeeee Germans did

It’s like Steve Jobs and Apple

​@@2fargonedaytona128just educate yourself on the development of the ak🤦

@@voltaire5427 While I like the ergonomics on Shadow Systems, they are not as reliable, and I have no idea how they made poor trigger even worse.

Considering that most of Glock's money is probably through military and law enforcement contracts (making the civilian market of secondary concern) it is really not a big leap to see why they haven't quickly jumped on the micro 9 bandwagon. While I think it would be a good move for them to compete in that market and they may eventually get there, I can see why it's not primary.

Not when it comes to reliable options with enhanced capacity, Sig P365 is the king of that hill right now. But for no nonsense 100% reliability, Glock is still killing it in that category.

@@d3ltaohniner261 I use and have used Springfield XD'S for work since their inception never had a jam or misfire and is reliable after thousands of rounds.

@@d3ltaohniner261 No feeding issues with my Shield Plus so far. 2 years more than 1,000 rounds so far. I haven't heard of any such issues for other Shield Plusses nor for the P365. No mechanical device has perfect reliability but the performance of my Shield Plus thus far has given me total confidence for carry.

Micro 9s fuckin suck though.

Correct. This is why S&W jumped off the .357sig wagon with the M&Ps. 2015, 2016 era. Big Blue said why should we let consumers, gun owners say; hey, I can buy 3 M&P series barrels, conversion designs then buy 1 .40 pistol. 🛒 I have 2 stainless KKM barrels: 9x19mm .357sig for my M&P 4.25". I'd add S&W even into 2021, sold metal magazines with .40/.357 logo on them.

I have an M&Pc originally chambered for 357 Sig. I bought a .40 S&W barrel, as well as a Storm Lake match grade 9mm barrel and a few 9mm magazines as well. Great little pistol that gives me some options. Glock has been left behind for a while now, but their fans will buy anything they release, no matter how redundant and useless..

I’m stoked they don’t. I love paying 10 bucks a pop for magpul to make the best magazine on the market that doesn’t rust. I like having a TON of mags (I buy 10 for my Glocks and 10 for my AR every year on my bday, I mark the old mag with a soldering iron to show they are used and they become training mags. It’s awesome rolling up to the range with 20 556 and 20 p17’s pre loaded so I can focus on shooting not hurting my thumbs

@@luckymanham302 “Glock is left behind “ no sir I think you just need to catch up. Over 65% of all law enforcement agencies in the US use Glock. Including the USSS , Border patrol and military Special Operators.

I agree

Same here!

I found out that only Glock magazines are the most reliable.

Already done, my x-macro has been my favorite EDC i've owned in a long time.

I’m not going to “disagree”, but I sure won’t be making the live chat, and you lost me. In my experience Glock mags are 99.998% reliable. I probably had 500 rounds through a 43 mag so I’ll say 99.8%. Did something go over my head?

Better guns and better looking guns too.

S&W has bad QC in my experience.

None as reliable, easy to maintain and have such a large aftermarket. It's also lighter and slimmer which is a plus.

If you're interested in offloading a couple shield arms mags I may be interested. I don't want to run them, I just want to buy them for R&D on a magwell I am going to sell. Gen 2 is what I'm mainly looking for but if you have one of each that's optimal. let me know, thanks

More likely a problem with your gun than the magazines.

@@jth_printed_designs I sold mine. Informed the guy the issues I had but he still wanted to buy them. Hopefully they work for him. Okay for the range i guess

good choice same as me only original mags

Higher capacity is fine,but knowing a gun will be dependable is more confidence inducing. People who swear by more rounds probably don’t like revolvers and they have been protecting bodies for over 150 years.

My brother got a p320 awhile ago and was extremely limited on magazine options being in stock. Can’t relate brah!

The mags are also prone to rusting

@@11Shaa true that

This is one of the reasons I choose Glock. Their spare mags are significantly less expensive than the competitors. I like me a Sig, but their magazines are very expensive comparatively.

@@11Shaa that’s another benefit to the polymer mag, I suppose.

Canik elite will out shoot the Glock

@Trashman what does that have to do with this conversation at all?

You misspelled PDP

@@Skwisgar2322 Lol yeah, completely irrelevant.

@Skwisgar2322 Because I want to upset all the glock fan boys and girls out there. lol 😆 😂 🤣

You should check out the HK p30 series the nicest magazines I have ever used between glock sig beretta metgar. Great pistols bomb proof for polymer hammer guns

@@gordo3697 will be one of my next handgun purchases. I’m hard on the 1911 train right now so nothing is guaranteed

@@gordo3697 Seen em, don't care for pre cocked striker fired and prefer metal frame for weight. Never had any issues with my 92 FS.

@@anthonyioane4438 the p30 is a hammer fired seires guns the vp9 is striker fired the look simular and share magazines. The 92fs is great I thought you said you wanted a polymer dasa hk is about all there is

@@samsaasen4922 yeah dude if you got the money the langdon p30s are great for what they are. I like 1911s I just cant bring myself to buy a 2011 like a stacatto and discipline myself to save maybe a springfield emmisary or a similar single staxk

Glock was not the first polymer gun, neither it was the first striker fired gun...

Glock goes 💥 when you pull the trigger. What else do you want?

@@afridgetoofar1818 more rounds

@@masterofreality230 Buy a Glock 19

@@afridgetoofar1818 I already have a P365X that can hold up to 17 and it weighs 17 ounces unloaded. The Glock 19 isnt a bad gun, but its not the best for edc for me.

@@paullllehtx if you read or watch any of the many range rental reports of TODAY….S&W and Beretta keep beating Glock on fired rounds before part breakage by a long shot. And I am a competitive shooter, so let’s be real, most of those Glocks you saw during training were Glock frames with aftermarket steeple or other grip enhancements, for sure aftermarket METAL sights and most likely an extended aftermarket slide release and an aftermarket trigger shoe. And with their 43x /48 slim line that is ideal for conceal carry…Even more than ever nowadays Glock relies on aftermarket magazines ( shield arms) to come close to competing with the M&P Shield Plus, Springfield Hellcat, Sig P 365, Taurus G4, Ruger Max and IWI Masada Slim. Realice it GLOCK IS OLD!!!

If they did that they may as well go out and creat a metal version of the glock 19. Cough cough M&P

Easy, the Sig 365 trigger return spring will likely fail before you notice the magazine feed issues…. The Sig Dead Trigger is a known issue which SIG has not yet acknowledged - 5 extra rounds in the mag isn’t peace of mind if your Sig won’t fire!! (or if its a P320 goes off all by itself!)

@@wpsinc61 ok I still don’t understand what the trigger reset issue has to do with the magazine. I don’t know what you took from my question but I’m simply curious as to the construction of the sig magazine.

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Well glock don't put unreliable and untested gun out their for people to test it for them unlike the sig glock has reputation and doesn't want to ruin it

@@lorddarius8417 Glock just released outdated, unimpressive pistols with a model number list that reads like a church bingo ticket. G47…. BINGO!!! None of my Sig’s ever have had any issues whatsoever, but they are all optics ready, have actual iron sights and much better triggers than Glock.

Same, carry a 43x in the summer months. Shield arms mags, probably coming up on 1000s rounds with the gun and three mags from SA. No feed issues. Only thing I did was swap out the mag release to the metal one since I’ve seen some issues with the SA mags chewing up the stock mag releases.

Yea, I carry a P365x with mag guts, not a single issue. This is just a failure to innovate on Glocks part.

I have 3,852rds through SA mags. The Gen 1’s caused a nose dive malfunction every 200rds or so for me in the first 1,000rds. The Gen 2’s have not malfunctioned in the last 2,852rds. I have a dozen of them.

My 43x mos with S15 mags runs like a raped ape.

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Maybe glock pass criteria is 10,000 rounds without failure. With magazine that has been temperature cycled many times and exposed to high humidity (corrosion) to simulate 10yr old magazine.

I bought one for my girlfriend and never said anything about that option to her. I just pretend the extra 5 round option doesn’t exist

I ended up having to purchase 10% extra power springs for all of my pdp 18rd mags. The springs in the oem mags are severely underpowered and after about 15 - 20 full cycles through one of their magazines it immediately starts introducing failure to feeds where the next round being stripped off the magazine ends up getting pinched on the very bottom of the feed ramp and the breech face. I've probably ran over 4k rounds in my pdp and the only issues I've had have been magazine related. So far I have maybe 800 rounds on the new 3rd party springs with zero issues.

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They reached up their gigantic, smelly asses and pulled out a random number.

How do u explain the glock 17

I don't think so, firing pin block is simple otherwise it just moves the connector.

@@melissasmess2773That could be true in some cases, but I have seen a few Glocks at the range that have malfunctioned. All of them had trigger jobs. My stock Glock 30 has never had a failure due to trigger and pin issues. In my view, other than the addition of a light, and a red dot, I like to keep carry guns as the manufacturer intended them to be carried.

Gotta love that WTFP on those picture rounds wtf does it stand for in the pistol lmbo

I'm confused, does smooth metal wear away smooth plastic? Someone should tell that to car parts manufacturers and garden tool manufacturers as I've seen many metal on plastic moving parts in my life.

@@snowflakecuntreeman3947 depends on how it's designed, if you have a plastic square and you rub the corner against a metal hole for long enough, you will wear it down until its round. If you have 2 smooth and flat surfaces rubbing then it doesn't matter nearly as much. The mag release interface is the problem he is alluding to and I have experience with enough worn mag releases to know that it's very possible

thats why the only other firearm id trust besides AGlock is aCanik

I prefer my XDs .45 for EDC but I got the XDs Mod. 2 OSP 9mm AND the Hellcat for the wife in the past year and she's a big fan of both. 15+1 in a package that small is pretty sexy and will skin your ass quick, fast and in a hurry, before you realize what's happening to you.

Who even owns that one? It's just a 22 lol nobody cares about 22's

Except people that buy .22s.

Honestly good luck finding any reliable semi auto .22. Hell even .22 bolt guns and revolvers end up getting chambered with a dud 2/10 times

@@JustTheTip556 it’s not the ammo, its the gun…even my Taurus outperforms the 44 and I know other gun tubers had the same experience

@@walkinghard3956 I guess you ignored the astronomical 22 sales numbers of the past 24 months

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They sure are. I've had zero problems with my Hellcat Pro and it came with six 15 round mags. Also no problems with my XDM-9 that has 19 round mags.

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If it's a photo then it's not "running" anything...

Probably because 9mm Parabellum is tapered while .40 cal is straight walled.

Because a 19 is considerably wider than a 48.

@@jbrannon509 bro you can shave down glock 19 mags and they fit into a glock 48

@@jbrannon509 all glock had to do is take off there polymer sleeve off there mags and they would work

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Not about 2x stack it's about staggered stacks

Then put a metal mag release in the gun for $0.50

And that is why it is recommended to change to a metal mag release if you decide to use the Shield Arms mags.

They use "Double Stack" mags not "Staggered" as in the Shield mags.

@@GH-cp9wc What did he mean by saying glock only uses single stack then? I was almost positive that even the 43x has some kind of stagger system instead of just straight linear stack.

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I got a laugh from that as well.