Exactly what I was gonna say!

Ain't that the truth! Then you think back, "... how could I have ever thought of it any other way?" And it's so easy once you get it. Too easy really and that's why I called it the Holy Grail of Golf® I played with a guy the other day and he was kinda angry after watching me drive. He muttered, "It's like he's not even trying ..." I hear that from a lot of people and I tell them, "I'm just using the club differently than you are."

You've hit on a concept here that I'm already working on a video about. Basically the golf swing is simply learning how to swing the club as fast as we can and allowing it to crash into the golf ball.

I know. I did it on purpose. Sorry, I'm trying to get people to go looking for more information. KZfaq no longer promotes me because everyone who watches stops watching youtube and goes and swings a club. So, my clickthrough is basically zero and youtube hates that. I used to have 144k views per day and now it's just ~1000. If I put the video out whole ... it would happen again and actually get worse for my channel. If that makes sense ...

So for someone who watches the whole video, can link me to the video with it. TBH I think I know and am looking for confirmation. I believe if I turn back without swaying, transition, at which point my hips are around square, my shoulders and torso are still say 45 deg from square I swing On the line of the shoulders and the rotation and release will bring the path to the ball with a squared clubface to the path. (depending on my grip) So is this correct or have I still got it wrong?

@@Slainte-Mhath It's all about having the correct intention and it's simply not what everyone thinks. The golf club is a very unique tool like no other we're familiar with. Literally no one knows how to use it. Everyone thinks they do but clearly they don't because it works incredibly well for some and almost refuses to work for others. People say to me all the time, "It looks like you're not even trying." My answer is, Yeah, that's because I'm swinging in a different direction than you are." Most people are mystified by that because they never thought about what direction they should swing. They naturally assumed it was in the direction of the desired ball flight, but it's not and that's what makes a golf club such a unique tool. Also, it's really fun to use once you do understand how it works.

@@HolyGrailOfGolfso basically what Ernest Jones said ?

Yes! You're almost there. You're where many better golfers are, you've almost go it but it's still just a feeling. You just can't quite put your finger on what exactly is the magic move. Many good golfers aren't really sure of how or why their swing works when it does but they love when it does. Once you learn what exactly is is you need to do and how and why the golf club works the way it does it all becomes incredibly easy. This is what my website is all about. Irons, fairway woods, driver ... they all work the exactly the same when you know how to use them properly. Also, you should be hitting it 265+ on average. I'm 68 and still driving greens ~290 - 300. Once you know how the club works and you can depend on it you can really start swinging for the fences! It's so easy that once you learn it you can't believe you didn't figure it out for yourself.

Classics! Matching serial numbers?

@@HolyGrailOfGolf yes all matching

You don't. You simply lose the ability to do so. I'm making a video about this too. When the club reaches a certain point it's starts moving faster than you could add force so from that point on you're just holding on and going for a ride. It's like trying to push a car down a steep slope if the car is already going faster than you can run, you can't push it.

Let it happen, don’t try to make it happen!

Oh sure, I know Dan. We're not quite the same but he's one of the only instructors I agree with.

@dfg8851 Thank you for taking the time to comment. I wasn't sure about the glitches but I thought they were kinda funny. Maybe everyone doesn't have the same kind of luck I do, where things like that will happen exactly over the good parts. I just need to do something to improve my clickthrough rate. Everyone who watches my channel goes out and swings a club and youtube hates me for that and won't promote my channel any more. I went from 144k views per day down to 1500.

The glitches are on purpose. I hid the best information. A normal version is on my website.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf lol fair enough!!!

Ok, I get it. I did that on purpose to make people go looking for more. I used to have 144k views per day on youtube but because my content is easily understandable and compelling people watch and then immediately go out and try it. So youtube records that as "clickthrough" and mine is nearly zero so they no longer promote my channel. Every time someone watches my channel they stop watching youtube. What I'm advocating isn't rubbish. I'm explaining and teaching exactly how the golf club works and how to use it properly. It's incredibly simple and amazingly effective which is why I called it the Holy Grail of Golf®. I'm not a rich man but I have a million dollar idea and I'm doing the best I can to get it out to people and make a living too.

Pretty sure you just don't get it. I've watched countless videos of OG and none have technical issues. This conceptual approach is spot on.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf OK I see where youre coming from. Maybe I was a bit harsh. But maybe also you could add a link or something to the missing info (or unscramble it in this original video) Anyway I have edited my original comment to be a bit more conciliatory. Thanks for the explanation.

I hear you and I wish I could but there’s only two or three instructors that I agree with - Martin Ayres, Dan Martin and … I can’t think of the other at the moment. Literally everyone is attempting to teach golf backward - by examining and copying the results they expect to produce the cause and it’s futile and ridiculous. It’s like saying Djokovic has a 120 mph serve so to be better at tennis just do that and as we all know, it just doesn’t work that way.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf Ok, mate. But you only heard half of what I said. Keep up the good work. And thank you. I've learnt a great deal from you. x

You'd think so, but no. I'm working on a video about this concept as well. Although parts of it are true there are assumptions made that are incorrect.

Good point. I'm working on a video about this topic as well. I don't think even the pros know what they're actually doing - they only know how to do it. Which is why they practice so often. To them it's just a feeling and that feeling can change or disappear at any moment. It happened to me years ago. I was a +1.3 and suddenly one day I got the shanks. After shanking 5 or 6 or more shots in a row I suddenly realized I had been playing so well for so long that I had no idea what it was that I was actually doing. It vanished in an instant and I had no idea how to fix it. I wanted to cry. I'd been playing for 20 years and suddenly I couldn't hit a ball. I say this because I've heard pros like Ian Baker Finch say he lost his swing and that's why he retired. That tells me that even the pros don't actually truly know what they are doing - they only know how to do it. Oddly, this is one of the things that makes golf so compelling. When we play well we aren't sure why and the same is true when you play badly. Golf is like a slot machine that you never know when it's going to pay off or why.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf that makes a lot of sense. That’s actually really what we’re seeing in some of the top golfers today who are off track relative to their past success (Ricky, Rory, Jordan etc….). I have been searching for a swing for 4 years and tried your swing direction and it worked and then I started seeing the same pattern in the pros wondering do that actually know what direction their swinging or is it just grooved patterns from their youth. Golf instruction is not good at all today and that’s why I’m glad you simplified the right concepts. Truly glad I found your content.

@@Tcrook I know it's a bold claim but I truly believe I will change golf instruction in the future. Unless of course this information has been purposely suppressed for decades. I'm working on a book and several other things. I don't know if I'll get the credit when it does happen but I'm already seeing some of my methods being advocated by several other teachers and several instructors have told me they teach the Holy Grail of Golf® swing. Finally, yes, I know what you're saying about watching the pros. Once you know what to look for you can see it almost any good swing. Tommy Fleetwood and Juaquin Neimann do it so well.

I think I can take him. One of my favorite workouts is with a boxing "headache bag."

@@HolyGrailOfGolf My money is on you He only works out his mouth

Talent has little to do with it. How would you explain that every child who knows nothing about physics or golf can pick up a club and figure it out in 15 minutes? Are they all talented? No, children don't have a superficial knowledge about how the golf club works like adults do. If you're using the club properly it will refuse to work properly. It's simple physics.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf you contradicted yourself, you said kids know nothing about the golf swing yet still progress quickly? That's called talent. If you didn't have anything to sell to people, you would agree with me.

​@@njd9143 ​ I think we agree, actually. It's kinda silly to say or assume that children are more talented than adults. We were all children once. We didn't lose our talent but we, adults I mean, have been corrupted by something we're completely unaware of called "superficial knowledge." It's an unconscious belief that you understand something that in reality you do not. (I'm working on a video about this.) Anyway, the "superficial knowledge" is unconscious so it's deep seated and never questioned. That SK (let's call it) is the belief that you fully know and understand how the golf club works. So adults apply that SK and to their chagrin it doesn't work, so they often blame the club as being faulty or malfunctioning rather than questioning their SK. Adults don't even know they have SK so they never examine or question it. I always find it fun to watch the look on someone's face when I ask them, "what direction do you swing?" It's like a short circuit in their brain. It's something they've never thought about before but they have a firm belief, or an SK, but now, because I've asked that question, they suddenly don't want to give their honest answer and struggle to think of what might be the correct answer and when they can't come up with one they revert to their honest answer which is, "that way ... toward the target." So my point is that SK is ruining most everyone's swing before they ever start, whereas children don't have SK so they get great results quickly. Thanks for the comment. Intelligent questions and debate like this helps me figure out the best ways to explain this stuff.

I thought you were going to say, "... like asking the handsome guy how to be handsome."

Actually, about 1400 years ...

@@HolyGrailOfGolf I didn’t know that….thats Amazing really.

Every golf instruction begins without a basic fundamental. I just made another video about this. It's called "superficial knowledge" and every adult has it without knowing that they do.

What glitches? I'm kidding ... I need to get more youtube exposure without giving away everything for free. I could stop the video and say "the rest is on the website," but I think that's worse. I thought this was kinda funny. It's like my DVR cutting out just when a playoff starts. I'm trying ... I know golf not advertising or promotion.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf It is funny. But frankly I came by for more of the cartoon girls.

You must be new to his channel…90% of his content explains proper swing direction!

I have plans for that but I'd rather you discover it for yourself. I've taken down the main videos from the youtube channel that explained it all in detail, but there's still plenty there that explains the concept. Also, there are literally hundreds of comments from people saying they watched and then went and played the best round of their life. I started the paypal account because so many people were so grateful for what they learned that they felt compelled to compensate me.

I'm trying ... I can't just give everything away for free.

@@HolyGrailOfGolf WELL it sure didn't work for me, I'll never go to your web page. Could hardly get through your video, just fast-forwarded through it trying to see you're so-called secret., I'll stick with Mark Crossfield's KZfaq channel as he says and SHOWS the same thing, and his content is free!!! He is making BIG money off his KZfaq videos and has been for years. He is focused on helping people with their golf swing instead of asking for money, If you were half the teacher you thought you were you would be showing all the people you have helped with their swing using YOUR technique, the money will come, you are too stuck on making big money IMO.

​@@shanewilliams1216 Well, this is just a teaser video. So, I'm not surprised if you got the idea wrong. Anyway, if you have ever actually learned anything useful from any of those instructors you mentioned stick with them. I have literally never seen them advocate for anything that you can't find in any old golf magazine from the 70s or 80s. I was giving the idea away but everyone keeps telling me, "that's a million dollar idea!" Also, a lot of people insisted on giving me money, saying I taught them more than the most expensive coaches in the world. (Yes, several people have said they'd seen, Butch Harmon, Ledbetter ... and didn't learn a thing.) Anyway, I guess I can't make everyone happy. Thanks for the comment.

Who, other than me, has said there's a problem with golf instruction? I have never heard a single person say that. How am I patronizing anyone? I'm so confused.

You state that, "most Instructors use a Pro or a good Player, to show the Novice, what a good swing looks like,......then they show positions and advocate for the Student to try and get in to that position.....", No Golf Instructor has done that since the Fifties. lol. There's heaps of Golf Instructors on KZfaq who all have their own spin on what to do, and most people, like me, are aware of them. This is what is patronizing about your presentation, you talk as if no one knows anything about the golf swing, like everyone watching is a complete clueless Beginner. I get what you are trying to do, but it's just unnecessary and a little annoying. I think you are on the right track, there's just a few important steps in your process that you are missing.

@@SaintKimbo Thank you.

When you discover I'm not full of crap come back and we'll talk. I chose the "farm" because the driving range is too loud and people always want to talk to me.