Why Guitar Players (mostly) don't play the Gibson SG

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Joey Jones

Joey Jones

Ай бұрын

The Gibson SG, what is it really? The Les Paul's smaller brother? The "slinky" Gibson Guitar? I recently came across this Gibson SG, and I wanted to find out what it is about these guitars and why there's far more Les Paul players out there.

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@KStarDid
@KStarDid Ай бұрын
The SG and the Strat are the 2 most beautiful guitars ever made !
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@brendanfoster5320
@brendanfoster5320 Ай бұрын
I’m the opposite. I’ve always loved SG’s, and to me it’s what I imagine a Les Paul is to others - it has a classic tone, I love the look, the feel, everything about them. I suppose I’m lucky I prefer the cheaper guitar.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Definitely an advantage considering the price difference!
@drummztones4373
@drummztones4373 Ай бұрын
Nice Playing...Kossoff, Mr. Big ? Iommi has used them his entire career. Maybe the rosewood neck, with binding has a smoother feel. Hence the cost will increase. Nice work man!
@CATWALKCITY
@CATWALKCITY Ай бұрын
I love my 3 SGs, got a Standart, a 3 Pickup Deluxe and a Junior. Love the sound and the playability of the upper Fretboard, can even use my thumb up there...
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
fair enough!
@VintageRadius
@VintageRadius 24 күн бұрын
I wonder if you're getting stuck on the SG because of low frets. I'm not sure if Gibson fret sizes change from one model to another but I usually wish they were just a bit higher for my taste. And of course they will vary just slightly from one guitar to another because the frets are levelled in the set up process. If the frets go in less perfectly then more material comes off the frets.
@josephesposito3499
@josephesposito3499 21 күн бұрын
EPIC! BRAVO! The SG is >YOU! QUESTION: How do you get your vibrato so tight? Like Toni Iommi? What gauge of strings do you use? THANKS!
@kmjansen
@kmjansen Ай бұрын
I play an SG because I want that Les Paul thang without the weight.
@rogerYT69
@rogerYT69 29 күн бұрын
same 😊
@jaredt3985
@jaredt3985 Ай бұрын
I’ve had a love/hate thing with SG’s for years. Love the way they look, and some of my favorite players ever used them. But I’ve never got on with actually playing one. The neck dive alone turns me off, and the thin body just feels weird to me. For upper fret access and a fast neck I just use my Strat (HSS) or my ESP. Both are perfectly balanced and play like butter.
@crowchannel3891
@crowchannel3891 Ай бұрын
I was looking at mine hanging on the wall and I thought "Why don’t I play that more?" There is a bit of a tuning issue but a String Butler has helped. I need to pick it up again. That one sounds awesome!
@robin4616
@robin4616 Ай бұрын
I've got a 2019 SG Junior. I had tuning issues too. I bought a set of nut files for 10-46 string gauge, I spent some time with it and very carefully took care of the problematic nut slots (for me it was the D and G string especially). Now it is VERY stable. I don't have any troubles anymore
@barefeetcoasteer7458
@barefeetcoasteer7458 Ай бұрын
Joey that guitar sounds sooo sick !!
@johnnymossville
@johnnymossville Ай бұрын
I bought my daughter an SG for her first guitar. I thought I was going to love it because I'm a big fan of Pete Townshend's tone using one from the early 70's, but I never really connected with it. Also, I have a hard time keeping it in tune. I prefer the versatility of my Strat. She took lessons on it for awhile and pretty much gave up on guitar for now. I'll keep it around just in case wants to get back into it sometime, or trade it for something she wants.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
I'd keep it too - funny story, I stopped playing guitar for a year at age 13 and was pretty happy my parents hadn't sold the guitar when I was ready to get back into it. ;) Who knows if I had restarted otherwise.
@wizaxed
@wizaxed Ай бұрын
I played my buddies SG and I got lost on the neck. It seems SOOOO long, compared to other guitars. I play LP's and Tele's, where the necks join the bodies in similar positions. The SG is just different in that regard. I have a LP junior that is just like what you have there, but the board is rosewood. Single P90 is killer! I agree with other comments, your Tele fits your style very well!! Love your playing bro.
@jonbuckley
@jonbuckley Ай бұрын
I know they are great sounding guitars. But not for me. I dont like the look.
@samuelllakaj5439
@samuelllakaj5439 5 күн бұрын
I know how you feel. I feel the same about T & S styles.
@josephesposito3499
@josephesposito3499 21 күн бұрын
BRILLIANT! SG juniors are great, I have the 2018
@leegeddyfan
@leegeddyfan Ай бұрын
SGs can be made to the ultimate solidbody if the can mount any pickup in the pickguard like for example I'd love to see 2 single coils and a humbucker with a vibrato trem
@c.k.185
@c.k.185 Күн бұрын
I have 3 SG’s and they’re all completely different. I love them all, but rarely gig with them.
@drewpoarch951
@drewpoarch951 Ай бұрын
This is going to be a weird one, but may be a good example of it’s strange “niche”. I’m a country/rock guitarist. Keith Urban started playing juniors in the late 00s and still does sometimes. I loved the sound of the Les Paul Jr., but I ended up selling it and later regretting that. Years later, I opted to purchase an SG Jr. because I remembered my love for the single p-90, but wondered how it would sound with a bit thinner body. Boom. I found what I would refer to as Keith’s Junior sound but slightly thinner, which works out incredibly well for country music. I’d go as far to say that the Gibson SG is the closest thing to a telecaster in the Gibson line-up. Again, super weird, but dang if I don’t get a kick out of using one!
@kaimertens2193
@kaimertens2193 Ай бұрын
Good video, understood your point of view. If I had to choose between a Les Paul and a SG I would choose the SG. The Les Paul is IMO not as comfortable to play because of the position of the neck joint. And I love the sound of SGs. They are IMears a little more transparent compared to most LPs. I have both a SG std and a SGjr. I like to quote Mike Campbell, it is nice to have different flavours of sounds and tones like a painter uses different flavours of any colour to paint a good picture. Not that I produce hit records as a successfull artist like him, but I feel inspired using those flavours and I certainly play slightly and sometimes more differently on each guitar.
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 Ай бұрын
I would be interested in it, if it had a set of Gibson Dirty Fingers pickups in it. But the P90 on its own sounds a bit weak. Great playing, but I can’t put my finger on the song you played? Something for me to consider/ponder all night 😉
@benallmark9671
@benallmark9671 Ай бұрын
P-90’s weak ? That must be your fingers because weak doesn’t describe any decent P-90 I’ve ever heard
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 Ай бұрын
@@benallmark9671 I own 27 guitars. One of them has P90’s in the bridge and neck positions (LP Special). The neck pickup sounds thin (what I meant by weak) on its own. It’s like playing a Strat in the bridge pickup position. It’s why I prefer humbuckers.
@lueyteledeluxe7457
@lueyteledeluxe7457 Ай бұрын
​@@jimmcdougall9973that really doesn't describe my Gibson SG Special from the neck P90 at all! It siiings from the neck! And it has snarl & snap from the bridge. But, if you tend to play more metal than rock I get it. They aren't like a nice hot JB in the bridge of a superstrat or something. You don't get that high gain distortion sound. They don't "chug", as Ola would say...
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 Ай бұрын
@@lueyteledeluxe7457 I own an SG with DF’s in it. My choice of music is rock and 80’s metal. The P90’s are basically a noiseless single coil. I have Strats that never get played. I don’t “chug”, I can play guitar.
@operatingnurse
@operatingnurse Ай бұрын
Very fast neck, but i couldn't take the neck dive. It always sounded thin next to my Les Paul. Like you, it didn't have a place in my guitar arsenal that wasn't filled by another guitar.
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 26 күн бұрын
I like my Sg though its a Custom Pro and not a jr, especially the bite and the weight but I find it a little uncomfortable so a belly cut would be nice!
@simonblanjean6538
@simonblanjean6538 Ай бұрын
Funnily enough, I just bought a great copy of a Les Paul Junior (Custom 77, a French brand) from a guy who said it was "not his thing" and he "mostly played SGs".
@angusorvid8840
@angusorvid8840 4 күн бұрын
I've always loved SGs, but not enough to buy one. Instead, I opted for a really great Yamaha SG I got in a trade decades ago. I loved it. I wish I still had it. I'm either going to find one on the used market or get a Guild Polara, which is the best SG "inspired" ax on the market today. The thing about the SG, or SG style guitars is that, unlike a PRS, they don't offer the perfect fusion of a Les Paul and a Strat, the two most popular guitars of all time. The SG is still very popular guitar, but issues like neck dive and tuning stability are probably bigger factors than tone. The tone is great. No, not as thick as an LP, but Tony Iommi and many other players have done a fine job of getting heavy chugging metal from an SG. As I play classic rock, and SG is fine for me, tone wise. Another nice thing about the SG is playability. They are just some of the easiest guitars to play. Maybe I'll change my mind and buy the real deal one day, but not before I buy a Polara.
@yourguitarist
@yourguitarist Ай бұрын
Damn... you have a great feel. Really "in the pocket" 👍🤘
@azubinow
@azubinow Ай бұрын
That Kossoff vibrato ...
@ricardo.joao.1984
@ricardo.joao.1984 Ай бұрын
Personally, Telecasters and SGs are the perfect match together. I also love Jazzmasters and Les Pauls. But I find myself gravitating more with Teles and SGs. I believe you should try an SG Standard with an Rounded Neck, far more versatile than the Les Paul in terms of everything. It’s important to mention that Gibson never got discontinued the SG. You just need a good strap. Serious I really your videos and thanks for sharing really good stuff. My 2 Cents.
@lepenseur8191
@lepenseur8191 Ай бұрын
Nice SG! I have a Gibson Tribute and I love it... however, I like my Les Paul Junior a bit more. The SG Junior seems to be the best of both worlds. Cheers from Hamburg!
@unnamedproject
@unnamedproject Ай бұрын
Mine at least, is not well balanced (easy to fix with a leather strap) but also, the position of the pickups seems out of my arms way and dont find it comfortable to play. Also, don;'t like the front facing input jack. :S
@SkyBrotherBortz
@SkyBrotherBortz Ай бұрын
I believe the SG is Gibson’s best selling guitar so I think a lot of people play them.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Maybe, but where are they, I can’t see them? 😅
@stipeur
@stipeur Ай бұрын
Dear brother Joey! Even a plank of wood with one string would sound amazing in your hands!
@philsalvage
@philsalvage Ай бұрын
I’d give up my LP standard long before I gave up my SG
@ajcarter7652
@ajcarter7652 10 күн бұрын
Ok but what is the song though
@LivioC
@LivioC Ай бұрын
I love my SG Jr
@brianjauch9958
@brianjauch9958 Ай бұрын
You don't like SG's but you own that couch? Hmm.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Someone's salty I don't like SGs... :-D
@loouuni
@loouuni Күн бұрын
Servus, also ich als standardmäßiger SG Spieler find die Gitarre einfach nur mega. Sie sieht geil aus, ist super leicht, man kommt durch das Design perfekt an die ganz hohen Lagen und ich finde sie verdammt einfach zu spielen. Tony Iommi ist eben auch mein Lieblingsgitarrist, deshalb ist ne SG einfach ein Muss! :-)
@johnsmith-ug5tp
@johnsmith-ug5tp Ай бұрын
Your intro got me thinking and it sounds right to me that for every 10 Les Paul owners and gigging LP players there is one SG player. But according to Gibson and their sales numbers the SG is their best selling guitar and it has out sold LPs. 90% of SG owners must be bedroom/basement players. haha
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
haha is that true? I thought it was the other way around!
@errolandrew
@errolandrew Ай бұрын
Cool vid - but yes I am pretty sure this is true - the SG Standard is Gibson’s best selling guitar ever. The Les Paul has far more myth though, and is way cooler lol. Ian S Port’s book The Birth Of Loud is a great read if you’re into the history of Gibson & Fender & their rise 😊
@salort2934
@salort2934 Ай бұрын
For me it’s the looks.
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 Ай бұрын
I like the Sg because its light with bite! My Sg is about 3 lbs lighter than my LP.
@MarceloESA
@MarceloESA Ай бұрын
The song is: Mr. Big - Mr. Big
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Song is Mr Big, but who’s the band? 😝
@ricardo_deveza
@ricardo_deveza Ай бұрын
Free!
@user-vr9mk6hv9k
@user-vr9mk6hv9k Ай бұрын
If it's good enough for Tony Iommi... Still not interested in playing one myself, though. 😅
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
I feel that. 😂
@Akasha92
@Akasha92 Ай бұрын
Are you German? Or do you live on Germany? atleast your english sounds not so German. But I immediately recognized my hometown. xD
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
German indeed!
@anabidingdude8079
@anabidingdude8079 Ай бұрын
I'd say, as a lifelong SG player, that you can't base your opinion on playing an SG Junior with a maple fretboard. That is a guitar with a very specific sound and feel. If you like thinner necks look for a '61 reissue/standard. If fatter, a production line standard or find one with a 50s neck specs and see how that tickles you. Two pickup gives you a lot more options. Roll off the tone on the neck pickup on an SG and you have Clapton's famous "woman" tone, which is gloriuous.
@lueyteledeluxe7457
@lueyteledeluxe7457 Ай бұрын
I used to hate SG's. I hated the look. I hated the red. And I hated the horns. I thought it was a lame attempt to be "edgy" by being a "Satan" head looking guitar. And I especially hated the batwing. I still do! But one day guitar scrolling, with all the main suspect slots filled in my collection - the strat , the tele the LP, the superstrats, the PRS, the offset... - and suddenly I found myself GAS'ing for a blue SG! 🤷‍♂️ Go figure! I still love Blue SG's the most, small guard...and have one (a special), bit would still love a Pelham Standard '61. Stoptail/TOM. I no longer see the horns as a lame "devil" affectation", having learnt first hand just how purposeful the shape is to the ergonomics. Compared to a Les Paul, this thing is like hugging a super model! A Strat to a tele is the SG to the LP : the sleeker, stripped down Mk 2 of the chunkier prototype, single-cut model. I still prefer my SG 's to be anything but red...and not batwing, if it all possible. But both have exceptions! (A cherry Junior for one ; and really funky batwing models can be alright, like one I saw: a pearlescent seafoam green / white batwing, triple gold humbuckers... C'mon!! 🤷‍♂️) As for tone.... I don't try to have them as competing for the LP sound. The LP has that cornered. But my SG Special is good for more articulate sounds...that doesn't have the flabbiness, and wooliness of the LP , clean from the neck . The SG Special is also....well, special.. because of the wraptail. It gives it such a 'snap' to rhythm riffing! I could riff out on mine for hours! The snarl and the snap! 😙👌 It definitely has its own thing going, and I'm so glad I grabbed her when I did - as an impulse during COVID _!!_
@Stevewatson3
@Stevewatson3 Ай бұрын
There a pain in the ass to sit with for me but I do love them
@jltrem
@jltrem Ай бұрын
The SG, a model that has been in production consistently since it's introduction in 1961...but nobody plays them. They just buy them and let them sit in a corner and collect dust. Joey knows.
@user-db9pj4xp2x
@user-db9pj4xp2x 12 күн бұрын
Its perfect for me, straight up ACDC
@orryfishburne5326
@orryfishburne5326 Ай бұрын
I never used to like SGs. I hated the body shape. It wasnt until i got to borrow a friend's SG Standard where my mind was changed. It wasnt in great condition. He got it as a high school graduation present, broke a string, then put it in its case for 5 years. There was nothing wrong with the guitar, just needed some love and care. I convinced him to let me borrow it to clean it up, do a basic set up, and restring it. After all was done it looked, felt, and played like it was brand new again. I got to hold onto it for 2 weeks and within those weeks it became my favorite humbucker guitar i have ever played. Tonally speaking it is the humbucker sound i wish i had. It was perfect. The neck dive could get annoying, but the way it sounded, the feel of the neck, and the way it resonated was more than enough to make me forget all about that pesky neck dive. It was a sad day i had to give it back to him.
@estebancandiaburgos
@estebancandiaburgos Ай бұрын
10 years ago i move from a fender strat to an gibson sg, and coincidently (or not, who knows), for me everything go shit since then (musically talking). maybe i sell the little whore tomorrow
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Best comment so far 😂
@rockeroller
@rockeroller Ай бұрын
My SG is "neck heavy"
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 Ай бұрын
All Sg's are
@bysykler4959
@bysykler4959 Ай бұрын
Too much analysis and opinions. Grab it and play the shit out of it.
@grungederbushbarde-bushcra4435
@grungederbushbarde-bushcra4435 Ай бұрын
Where did you come from? its look like germany like i life. In my opinion the necks of SG's are too fat and they look better than a les paul but not very well. Good i love Fender...😉🤟
@brandontodd3498
@brandontodd3498 Ай бұрын
The Gibson sg is gibsons top selling guitar……..
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
Yes, but how many do you see out in the wild?
@josephesposito3499
@josephesposito3499 21 күн бұрын
@@joeyjooones You are a great player. I feel the SG is YOU
@Jake-X23
@Jake-X23 Ай бұрын
I just hate the SG body shape, it doesn’t look comfortable to hold or play
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 Ай бұрын
They're light as a feather, thin, and beveled so nicely, nevermind the upper fret access. Extremely sexy, easy to play and sound fantastic.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
That’s the cool thing about it - we all feel it so differently. And that’s just fine 🤘🏻
@bluematrix5001
@bluematrix5001 Ай бұрын
SGs are ugly, but sounds cool
@Scrappydootrades8256
@Scrappydootrades8256 Ай бұрын
From somebody who has owned a lot of guitars I would say the SG looks hideous. Really the Les Paul is beautiful. The Strat is iconic. The Dinky just plays well. The Tele is classically beautiful but the SG is just ugly. 90 % of guitar players agree and that is why they don't play them. It could be the best playing guitar ever. Nothing could change the fact that is a fat ugly slab of wood with no character.
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 Ай бұрын
Fat? Nope, they're thin. No one plays them. Hmmm... Because SGs are Gibson'S all-time sales leader.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
So they’re like McDonalds then. Everybody claims they’re not eating there, but their revenue goes up every year 😂
@Scrappydootrades8256
@Scrappydootrades8256 Ай бұрын
@@joeyjooones Exactly, the product has become too expensive for the quality that you receive. Wait, are we talking about McDonald’s or Gibson? 😂
@tomix1970pl1
@tomix1970pl1 Ай бұрын
Your Tele kills this Gibson.And Tele goes with your vibe.You don't sound like you on this Gibson.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
I actually thought the same when I listened back to what I recorded. Crazy isn't it? Same 6 strings, same combination of wood and metal... but I don't get into any flow, the licks sound arranged, I can't get into "auto pilot" mode where everything just falls into place. There was nothing wrong with the guitar whatsoever... it just didn't resonate with me.
@davidriggs2729
@davidriggs2729 Ай бұрын
@@joeyjooones KEEP THIS GUITAR!! You sound great! There's nothing more essentially rock than a good SG.
@joeyjooones
@joeyjooones Ай бұрын
@@davidriggs2729thanks David, appreciate it! Probably have to bring it back to Alex though.. not my vibe!
@josephesposito3499
@josephesposito3499 21 күн бұрын
@@joeyjooones What's your favorite guitar? I want to see your tight vibrato on other guitars
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