Why Has the Majestic Griffin Been Forgotten? | Monstrum

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The Griffin is a half-lion, half-eagle creature that is commonly seen adorning royal crests and perched menacingly atop buildings. Why is this ancient creature that many of us see every day largely forgotten?
The world is full of monsters, myths, and legends and Monstrum isn’t afraid to take a closer look. The show, hosted by Emily Zarka, Ph.D., takes us on a journey to discover a new monster in each new episode. Monstrum looks at humans' unique drive to create and shape monster mythology through oral storytelling, literature, and film and digs deep into the history of those mythologies.
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@aidanrogers4438
@aidanrogers4438 2 жыл бұрын
Historians: ‘Why did ancient cultures like Griffins so much?’ Ancient Cultures: ‘We just think they’re neat!’
@XenoRaptor-98765
@XenoRaptor-98765 2 жыл бұрын
That’s probably the same question about dragons.
@sciencewizard2861
@sciencewizard2861 2 жыл бұрын
Just shows how humans never change
@chungga94
@chungga94 2 жыл бұрын
Modern folks: Cool. Ancient folks: Cool.
@KryptoKnightly
@KryptoKnightly Жыл бұрын
😅😅
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 жыл бұрын
Like dragons, I am a fan of the idea that no matter your background, your country of origin, the era you’re from, the idea of mashing a lion with a bird of prey is a rad idea.
@Winteramen
@Winteramen 2 жыл бұрын
If you remember from Pokémon, Ho-ho
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Winteramen Ho-oh is based on fenghuang.
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Winteramen what part of that says lion to you?
@LunaBianca1805
@LunaBianca1805 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorfusher2997 Maybe some ergott poison induced nightmare😅? Sounds like a nightmare to me, anyway. And Scylla and Charybdis obviously were supposed to be nightmare inducing monsters after all, weren't they?
@marisoldavis3357
@marisoldavis3357 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video of Centaurs.
@CuriousArchive
@CuriousArchive 2 жыл бұрын
9:27 The idea that griffins might be at least partially inspired by Protoceratops fossils is such a cool concept.
@Beedo_Sookcool
@Beedo_Sookcool 2 жыл бұрын
Even better: the guy who headed up the expedition that "officially" discovered Protoceratops and its eggs, Roy Chapman Andrews, was the basis for Indiana Jones.
@sabithasajan5564
@sabithasajan5564 2 жыл бұрын
Nope it's not party pooper
@brotquel1592
@brotquel1592 2 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating and hilarious, if you think about it: the griffin, a mix of two apex predators, could be inspired by both protoceratops and psittacosaurus, some of the smallest ceratopsids and easiest preys for local predators.
@eddierayvanlynch6133
@eddierayvanlynch6133 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of them, just Meg.
@samrizzardi2213
@samrizzardi2213 2 жыл бұрын
@@brotquel1592 Protoceratops was no joke. It was built like a boar and had crushing jaws that could cripple a Velociraptor.
@travisshallenberger9486
@travisshallenberger9486 2 жыл бұрын
I never really realized there were no famous myths about the griffin. I mean, it's always been there, but no stories of some Greek or Arabic hero fighting one or getting help from one or anything like that. A monster that's like a fan favorite background character in a Star Wars movie.
@Katwind
@Katwind 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they seem to have been used by Alexander the Great during a couple of battles. Not as trained fighting beasts, but for exploration of the enemy forces via attaching ropes to various griffins to a big basquet with an scout inside (probably that's where people in the U.S. civil war using baloons got the idea from, as they didn't have access to griffins).
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorfusher2997 I really hate when people copy-paste the same thing in multiple comment threads. It's bot-like behavior. And it doesn't contribute to whatever the original comment is at all.
@teogonzalez7957
@teogonzalez7957 2 жыл бұрын
There was a story of one of Charlemagne’s knights riding onez
@dolsopolar
@dolsopolar 4 ай бұрын
that's my favorite thing about griffins, they were treated like an ordinary animals unlike dragons. back then all animals are tied to some characteristic and religious roles so guarding golds isn't so out of place. to medieval people griffins were as real as elephants and rhinos
@jrr2480
@jrr2480 2 жыл бұрын
The griffin is still being used in children's media, like: cartoons, movies, and books 📚. We just need to have more adult media to expand upon this great creature. 👍
@eroraf8637
@eroraf8637 2 жыл бұрын
Too true. Most of my recent exposure to griffons and hippogriffs has been through My Little Pony.
@jrr2480
@jrr2480 2 жыл бұрын
@@eroraf8637 that is very true 🐴😉
@deirdregibbons5609
@deirdregibbons5609 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Heralds of Valdemar series by Mercedes Lackey. Also Michael Angel's Fantasy and Forensics series. Both are adult media. Griffins play a big role in both series.
@emmazig
@emmazig 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up reading the Castle Glower books (Tuesdays at the Castle, etc.) so griffins are very near and dear to my heart because of the second book in that series. Highly recommend for children of pretty much any age :)
@icydazo6417
@icydazo6417 2 жыл бұрын
There is adult media featuring griffins, but you have to travel to Rhode island to get there
@MeekCrayon
@MeekCrayon 2 жыл бұрын
Its interesting that people used to believe that you could just walk up on one. It's almost like the ancient "cryptid". Some people saw it, some people believed it, and some people idealized it. There was always that chance that you would see one
@GaryDunion
@GaryDunion 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was true of a lot of what we now call mythical animals! It was a big, not very well-known world out there so it made sense that there could be lots of things in it you'd never actually seen. And to the average, early medieval Englishman (for example), there would have been no obvious reason why griffins should be less believable than giraffes or elephants or ostriches.
@matthewmartinez3907
@matthewmartinez3907 2 жыл бұрын
Back then it was likelier chance to see one, many creatures have gone into hiding because of us. What’s saddens me the most is that we may never see them again.
@nhuthuynhminh2603
@nhuthuynhminh2603 Жыл бұрын
And looking at modern cyptids, some people are turnt on by it.
@chiefrief2940
@chiefrief2940 2 жыл бұрын
My father was born in Griffin, GA. He passed away when I was thirteen, and my aunt bought me a coin necklace adorned with a griffin. I wore it every day as a way to remember my father. The next year my family moved and I started high school. Our mascot: Griffins, though spelled Gryphons. Throughout my life the griffin has been a personal symbol of comfort, strength and nobility. It’s honestly my favorite animal, despite its cryptid status.
@loC2ol
@loC2ol 2 жыл бұрын
It being a cryptid imo makes it even cooler! Thank you for the story! Cheers my friend!
@Lily_of_the_Forest
@Lily_of_the_Forest Жыл бұрын
Live the griffin legacy - be strong to protect the weak
@andrewblack2596
@andrewblack2596 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe…you ARE gryphon! What a twist!!😮
@StodaGryph
@StodaGryph 9 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I prefer the 'gryphon' spelling to refer to the creature. Griffin is a name. Griffon is a breed of dog.
@iRedEarth
@iRedEarth 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder how anyone could think these strange hybrids are actually real? Then I remember there's a duck-billed platypus out there laying eggs, and sporting venomous back feet...
@megb7715
@megb7715 2 жыл бұрын
Giraffes are real. Somehow.
@SuperRegic
@SuperRegic Жыл бұрын
I heard a theory that some poor ancient greek person perhaps found protoceratops fossils exposed in a wind worn cliff and because no one knew what fossilisation was had no reason to think they weren't fresh bones so they told their neighbors no real proof but it's not so far fetched.
@maxpowers9129
@maxpowers9129 Жыл бұрын
If you ask most people if a bird can fly backwards, most will say no, because it's difficult to imagine a bird flying backwards. However, the hummingbird is a bird that is actually able to fly backwards. Nature is just weird.
@mattpalmer1269
@mattpalmer1269 2 жыл бұрын
The griffin and the manticore have always been mythical creatures that fascinate me. But they do seem to exist on the fringe of mythology, and I think they definitely deserve more hype! Please think about doing a manticore episode!!! That would be soooo cool!
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a Manticore that mixes and mashes the 3 together more. Imagine it having more bat ears and six eyes with bits of exoskeleton from the scorpion on the torso.
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever met a manticore fan before. It makes me happy that someone is out there excited to see manticores in movies and books =]
@CaptainJack67
@CaptainJack67 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValeVin I love the manticore as well and it absolutely doesn't get enough love
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValeVin in case it wasn't clear, I'm a fan of manticores (fanticore?) as well.
@paulkokorotsis8215
@paulkokorotsis8215 2 жыл бұрын
The griffin, along with the dragon and the werewolf, is one of my favorite legendary creatures.
@steveperks7054
@steveperks7054 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm... so is this the start of a new joke or of a new campaign? Or both? A griffin, dragon, and werewolf walk into a tavern....
@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551
@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveperks7054 maybe a Creepypasta writer will look at this and spin us a web or write a nice scary story with Said entities?
@qawamity
@qawamity 2 жыл бұрын
Griffons are frequently included in Magic: the Gathering sets. They've been part of D&D since the 70s, and are often in the fantasy games it helped to inspire (both table top and video games). I recall there was an episode in Henson's short lived "The Storyteller" series (from 1987) wherein the most prominent foe was a griffon. No, they don't get the publicity that Dragons, elves, dwarves, centaurs, minotaurs, etc. do, but I wouldn't say they've been forgotten.
@mantisguy746
@mantisguy746 2 жыл бұрын
Well, in germany they will not be forgotten for a long time as a lot of shields, etc. from the middle ages have them painted on them.
@amarketing8749
@amarketing8749 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Henson's "The Storyteller" was an awesome series and episodes can be found on KZfaq.
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid 2 жыл бұрын
The parrot griffin from Ixalan is hands down my favorite.
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 2 жыл бұрын
Not just D&D, Warhammer Fantasy has had the griffon as Imperial iconography practically since the game's founding and has only gotten more prominent with the Age of Sigmar.
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, but when was the last time you saw them in film or media? Well, asides from their upcoming depictions in Rebel Moon part 1 and 2 that is!
@paulkokorotsis8215
@paulkokorotsis8215 2 жыл бұрын
The torso, haunches, and tail of a massive cave lion. The wings, feathers, sharp beak, talons, and the keen eyes of a golden eagle. Put them together with the ears of a bat, you get the griffin.
@sapphirejade5029
@sapphirejade5029 2 жыл бұрын
You just got my artist and story writer brain going! Would LOVE to use that for inspiration!! AAAAHH!!
@rahuldhargalkar
@rahuldhargalkar 2 жыл бұрын
@@sapphirejade5029 I second this
@medusa_slayer
@medusa_slayer 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that different representations of the mythological creature known as Griffin (first from ancient Egypt all the way to China etc) makes you wonder, indeed, why the world has forgotten this majestic beast.
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't. :(
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 жыл бұрын
They are not real
@Luna-cx1pp
@Luna-cx1pp 2 жыл бұрын
All mythological creatures are part of a world we can't see kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gK1hdtmTy67QnIk.html
@mantisguy746
@mantisguy746 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuisSierra42 no one said they were
@JaitsuStudios
@JaitsuStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Because it hasn't.
@Prince_Rain
@Prince_Rain 2 жыл бұрын
First the Djinn, now griffins! You guys are hitting all my favorites 🖤🤍❤ Keep up the amazing work!
@ferretappreciator
@ferretappreciator 2 жыл бұрын
If you want more on the djinn I suggest let's talk religion's video on them! Pretty good imo
@Prince_Rain
@Prince_Rain 2 жыл бұрын
@@ferretappreciator I've seen it, but I appreciate the recommendation 😊 I agree! I think it was an interesting video.
@ginger-ale7818
@ginger-ale7818 2 жыл бұрын
Griffins aren’t forgotten if you play RPGs and their relatives! They’re really common in Magic the Gathering, as well lored as any other DnD monster, and fill the skies of World of Warcraft. Also, if you replace eagle with owl and lion with house cat, you get the Meowl! The best fantasy pet in existence (provided you prefer soft over cool).
@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980
@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980 2 жыл бұрын
I was told that the Griffin may have been based on Protoceratops fossils found in Mongolia.
@gadaadyn8190
@gadaadyn8190 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many dinosaurs bones in the Gobi that the seal of Dornogovi providence is a barosaurus
@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980
@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980 2 жыл бұрын
@@gadaadyn8190 Cool. 😎🦕🦖
@MadamFoogie
@MadamFoogie 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't forgotten about griffins. They're one of my favorite mythical animals. I even made a limestone carving of one for my 3D Sculpting class in college. Such a regal, powerful beast. Plus, it makes an excellent door stopper!
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk 2 жыл бұрын
Gryphons are just about my top favorite fabulous creature, especially after all the Mercedes Lackey novels I've read. Her take on gryphons (in her Mage Wars trilogy they are characters, not just beasts) never ceases to fascinate me. I love that there are still so many interesting ideas about them in fantasy art, too - from gryphons that dance to gryphons that paint, and gryphon parents watching over ridiculously adorable gryphon babies. It's all of it wonderful. When they had CGI gryphons in the first Narnia film, I was overwhelmed for a little bit, because for all that it's a very, very brief appearance, it was done SO WELL and it remains one of the most literally breath taking CGI moments I've ever experienced. The only thing that could be better is finding out they really ARE real, and being able to be near one!
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
I love that so many authors grew up on Mercedes Lackey books in the 80s and 90s and went on to write their own novels with gryphons as protagonists.
@wojciechagodzinski4886
@wojciechagodzinski4886 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about one thing. In many legends and folklore griffins like horse meat so much so that they immediately attacked even armed riders. In that case, what would happen if griffin and hippogriff ( after all part horse) met? PS. I still think that it's good time for material about the orcs.
@avirajsinghmehta1857
@avirajsinghmehta1857 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are enemies and Griffin attack hippogriff
@NickLavic
@NickLavic 2 жыл бұрын
A hippogriff is the offspring of a female horse and a male griffin, so if the griffin father saw its child it would most likely care for it as they are said to be good parents. If other griffins saw a hippogriff, I would assume they would also accept it as one them. As you said, griffins love horse meat, so the creation of a hippogriff is extremely unlikely.
@kaylathehedgehog2005
@kaylathehedgehog2005 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickLavic I think I remember reading somewhere that the sheer voracity griffins had towards horses made the hippogriff kind of like an ancient equivalent of a flying pig: something that's highly unlikely to happen.
@Katwind
@Katwind 2 жыл бұрын
I believe I heard somewhere that the hippogriff came from a poem as a symbol for the birth of the impossible, given how voracious griffins are about horses.
@samuelaraujomedeiros6682
@samuelaraujomedeiros6682 2 жыл бұрын
In dnd, griffins prey on hyppogriffs too.
@evodolka
@evodolka 2 жыл бұрын
i remember questioning this a while back and i'm curious what the thoughts here are this question being "is a Griffin a type of Dragon?" my main reason for asking this is that they do share similarities . both are chimerical creatures in design . both have a thing for gold . both are showed rather commonly throughout history . Dragons when depicted wth bird wings are VERY Griffin like so i want to see what other people think of this question Griffins are pretty interesting myths, i love how th idea of them and Hippogriff also imply other forms of griffin lineage
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
Silly counterpoint, maybe dragons are just pterodactyl+crocodile gryphons =]
@evodolka
@evodolka 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValeVin this... this makes too much sense
@beretperson
@beretperson 2 жыл бұрын
Griffins were huge in our long-running d&d campaign and so I did a double take when I saw this video because I'd forgotten most people haven't spent five years adventuring with a member of a Griffin-themed ancient paladin order.
@user-hs1xb9tv6e
@user-hs1xb9tv6e 2 жыл бұрын
The creature that first made me intrested in mythical creature. I love this thing. Also saying that this creature is "forgotten" is a bit of a stretch.
@Passions5555
@Passions5555 2 жыл бұрын
Fairly said. But at the same time griffins do not seem to have the exposure that other mythical creatures in our culture like dragons or trolls do.
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 жыл бұрын
Narnia did such an admirable job with Griffins
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
I think they still might be the best CGI gryphons we've ever seen in a film. I hear the director was a huge fan of The Black Gryphon, hence the scene in Prince Caspian with the gryphon raid.
@TheCanadiangirl4
@TheCanadiangirl4 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I kind of cheered when I say them.
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCanadiangirl4 they also fought throghout two massive wars on the side if aslan and there was am extended scene featured them against harpies
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385
@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 Жыл бұрын
Best depiction of the Griffin.
@skister82
@skister82 2 жыл бұрын
During my time in the British Army, my squadrons emblem was a Griffin. I know it was only an emblem but every time I see one it fills me with a sense of pride and loyalty to my squadron and the people i served with. Thank you for the video I really enjoyed it.
@CaptainJack67
@CaptainJack67 2 жыл бұрын
The Griffin was always my favorite mythical creature. I still have a plush Griffin from the movie Quest for Camelot decorating my Wonderland bedroom/library. And I thought they were absolutely breathtaking in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe movie. I had no idea they were so widespread and mysterious in origin, though. Wonderful episode, as always.
@mustardsfire22
@mustardsfire22 2 жыл бұрын
The Griffin from Quest for Camelot was fantastic. "Sorry, master, my mouth was full."
@spiderxand
@spiderxand 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't forgotten the mighty Griffin. One of my favorite monstrous legends. Right behind the majestic dragon.
@jso6790
@jso6790 2 жыл бұрын
So cool. I love fossil theories for most mythical creatures. They just seem so plausible. I also love anything about the Scythians because they were such a successful and durable people and yet (at least here in the States) we don't seem to know enough of them.
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 2 жыл бұрын
They really don't though. I recommend Mark Witton's article on the matter to show why the Protoceratops hypothesis is considered pseudoscience at best.
@joanhoffman3702
@joanhoffman3702 2 жыл бұрын
Griffins don’t get enough love in stories. We need more griffin stories!
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
The Gryphon Reading List has about 400 different gryphon novels if you need more to read =] And if you want something specific, I learned a lot about them doing the gryphon reading challenge a few years back. Everything from grimdark (The Dark Griffin) to charming lesser squirrel/pigeon gryphons with a lesbian protagonist (On Gryphons and Other Monsters) to just Wings of Fire for adults with gryphons (Eyrie) or middle grade Norse-inspired stories (Song of the Summer King).
@abigailblackstock4928
@abigailblackstock4928 2 жыл бұрын
Griffy!!!!! Thank you!!!!! I LOVE these guys! I find it fascinating how often they show up across the world, like the dragon.
@redwardranger7034
@redwardranger7034 2 жыл бұрын
This creature has always been my favorite mythical creature. It to me is a symbol heroism and bravery. If I could be a legendary magical knight, I want a griffin as my noble steed
@tb9360
@tb9360 2 жыл бұрын
Most of this research looks like it comes from Adrienne Mayor's "The First Fossil Hunters" first published in 2000. The following is an except that has the information of which 2 Dinosaurs fossils were believed to be Griffins. This is also the book that supports the theory that ancient pygmy elephant fossils were mistaken for Cyclops skulls by an Ancient Greek writer: The body of the hatchet-faced Protoceratops is about 6 to 8 feet (about 2 m) long, roughly the size of a lion, and has four limbs, but the head has a nasty-looking beak, large eye sockets, and a thin, bony frill at the back of the skull (figs. 1.10, 1.11). The smaller (4 to 6 feet long, about 1.5 m) Psittacosaurus (“parrot-beaked”) has very prominent jugals, or cheek projections. In these deserts, the exquisitely preserved skeletons are frequently fully articulated, with the beaked skulls still attached. “Tiny surface features-grooves and pits that mark the routes of blood vessels and nerves”-are still evident.21
@LukeBunyip
@LukeBunyip 2 жыл бұрын
That explains why it's listed in the bibliography above in the video description.
@chocothun1
@chocothun1 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder. Both griffins and dragons have a thing for jewels, the sky, and being noble. Do you think Griffins and Dragons might have been the same or coming from a single mythical creature before defined enough to distinguish them?
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I think it's fascinating that so many different cultures came up with their own dragons or gryphons. Like there's something so human about inventing both creatures, like they're a part of who we are.
@chocothun1
@chocothun1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValeVin Right! I would like an episode on that!!!
@lilbasenji1
@lilbasenji1 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great day when a new monstrum video comes out! Thanks for providing so much information about the griffin. It’s shocking how so many cool mythical creatures have hypothetical ties to fossils. I can’t wait to see what creature will be in the next video!
@mistingwolf
@mistingwolf 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants griffins in more modern form ("modern" being 90s-ish) check out the books The Black Gryphon. The White Gryphon, and The Silver Gryphon. The series is part of a very expansive world over dozens of books; all good stuff!
@asmith8692
@asmith8692 2 жыл бұрын
Skandranon and Tadrith are some of my favorite characters. So is Tashiketh from the Mage Storms series.
@1everydayperson
@1everydayperson 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that series by Mercedes Lackey! Yep I'm a bit of a nerd. I also liked her oathbound and oath breaker books. Tarma and Kethery,I'm sure I butcher the 2nd name,with their horses Hells bane and iron heart aree some of her best works.
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
Every so often Larry Dixon (co-author on those) talks about how they're going to release a new gryphon series set in Valdemar, and I can't wait for that to happen. I know there are like 400 gryphon books nowadays, but The Black Gryphon is just so iconic.
@rexevans5477
@rexevans5477 2 жыл бұрын
please talk about the harpies they're cool and would give you stuff to talk about
@onbearfeet
@onbearfeet 2 жыл бұрын
Griffins are definitely still out there in the culture! I remember begging my parents for a stuffed griffin as a small child. (They got me a stuffed Oscar the Grouch.)
@whatcanidooo
@whatcanidooo 2 жыл бұрын
I was really into griffins when I was a kid, I was even writing a book about a brother and sister who discover two griffins who take them to a magical world where they search for a way to save their parents who are stuck between life and death due to a car crash that got mixed up in some sort of magic
@chiefrief2940
@chiefrief2940 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an amazing story.
@bubaaaaaaaaa
@bubaaaaaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefrief2940 Fr tho like dang
@newfic2290
@newfic2290 2 жыл бұрын
Супер! 👍
@eypick6987
@eypick6987 2 жыл бұрын
When is the Monstrum for platypus coming out? I’d be curious to the mythological origins of such a preposterous creature.
@meh8406
@meh8406 2 жыл бұрын
This beast look so majestic 😭
@royaltycomics
@royaltycomics 3 ай бұрын
As a child, I loved rewatching the movie The Spiderwick Chronicles over and over and I instantly fell in love with the griffin in that movie. Instantly one of my favorite mythical creatures.
@chewiecheshire7973
@chewiecheshire7973 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Have you considered doing Jenny Greenteeth, Black Annis, the Kelpie/ Each-Usige (hope I spelled that right), or Pookas/ Pucks. Sorry, I just really like the Celtic fairy lore. Let me just throw in the Kuchisake-Onna and Yuki-Onna for some diversity.
@GaryDunion
@GaryDunion 2 жыл бұрын
You did spell that right! It's literally Gaelic for "water horse". You can kind of see the relationship between "Each" (the ch is pronounced like in Loch Ness) and the Latin "equus", even though they're only distantly related words. And "uisge," which just means water, is where we get the word whisky from!
@chewiecheshire7973
@chewiecheshire7973 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryDunion Wasn't positive because I know a lot of times. Gaelic spelling with latin script is more art than science.
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 2 жыл бұрын
Have they already covered silkies?
@chewiecheshire7973
@chewiecheshire7973 2 жыл бұрын
@@pakde8002 No, they didn't do selkies yet.
@elizabethchandler7377
@elizabethchandler7377 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see them cover the cwn annwn, the grim, black shuck/black dog, hellhound or any of the spectral dogs
@joshuapersons4833
@joshuapersons4833 2 жыл бұрын
As a member of Clan Leslie, who's heraldic animal and crest is a griffin, this episode was a delight! Our motto is 'Grip Fast', a humorous nod to an event from our past (I can't remember it all so I'd suggest looking it up), and hearing that "Griffin" may be derived from "Giriften", meaning "grip" feels like such an amazing coincidence to me.
@JKJ1900
@JKJ1900 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite mythical creature 💕 🦅 🦁
@brianmcgauley1804
@brianmcgauley1804 2 жыл бұрын
7:20 - 7:23 Here's a question that's always bugged me: If horses are part of a griffin's diet, how did one hybridize with a mare to make a hippogriff?
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually part of their lore: hippogryphs were meant to symbolize forbidden love. Unlike gryphons, which came from myths, hippogryphs were invented by the poet Virgil. Gryphons hate horses in Scythian mythology, so a gryphon-horse pairing is an impossible thing.
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't forgotten them. They are one of my favorite mythological creatures. 🦅🦁💰🛡
@bryanabbott6169
@bryanabbott6169 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite mythological creatures. 🦅🦁
@leighmercadokfphrdept.2197
@leighmercadokfphrdept.2197 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. It is also the design of my Original character
@mattdeblassmusic
@mattdeblassmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Dante: Great job not eating that forbidden fruit! Griffin: What part of "half lion, half eagle" suggests "fruit eater" to you, buddy?
@kristinasohl7147
@kristinasohl7147 2 жыл бұрын
Came here (The comment section), once again with the hopes that you will one day do a video about the Scandinavian "Myling". A "creature" that is both the stuff of nightmares and an insight into the hardships women had to suffer through "back-in-the-day". I would also make a real world connection to "Änglamakerskor" (Angel maker`s / Child farming) look it up if sleep is not on your schedule. Thanks for another fascinating video.
@skyetoddmakeup
@skyetoddmakeup 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of Myling, but I've heard stories of baby farmers from Britain that are terrible.
@Mokiefraggle
@Mokiefraggle 2 жыл бұрын
Mylings sound very similar to a Polish myth: the poroniec. The poroniec is usually the product of a stillborn infant buried improperly, rather than an abandoned child, but the premise seems rather similar. Seems like this is a common cultural mythology thread that might be interesting to see explored.
@MattAndImprov
@MattAndImprov 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there could be some explanation to research, like how unicorns were just rhinoceroses and the Cyclops was just a mastodon skull. If gryphons were just dinosaur bones, I think that's kind of cooler and more interesting than just "made up stories"
@CerebrumMortum
@CerebrumMortum 2 жыл бұрын
It may have faded from mainline folklore, but in RolePlayingGames, Computer games and modern fantasy literature they are alive and well.
@otterguy75
@otterguy75 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this! these are literally my favorite mythological animal!
@rahuldhargalkar
@rahuldhargalkar 2 жыл бұрын
You guys blend my favourite topics, like wow. Thank you so very much!
@deirdregibbons5609
@deirdregibbons5609 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting segment. I especially liked the connection of Scythians and fossil discoveries to the griffin myth creation. Also loved the artwork of the Scythian warrior riding a dun horse. It really had nice historical details.
@CoopMy
@CoopMy 2 жыл бұрын
Griffins are my very favorite monster of legend. I've been looking forward to this video for a long time, you all did not disappoint. Thank you for making this wonderful and informative video.
@rahuldhargalkar
@rahuldhargalkar 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for more such videos! Thanks Emily, thanks Storied and thanks PBS ❤️❤️
@joanhoffman3702
@joanhoffman3702 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago, I was in a WorldCon hospitality suite when Vonda M. McIntyre walked in. A group of us had a neat conversation with about fossils. She said it was interesting that the protoceratops fossils traveled north to become dragons and west to become griffins.
@Jiddy12345
@Jiddy12345 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode!!
@skurvay3429
@skurvay3429 2 жыл бұрын
7:17 In Greek Mythology there was also a creature called the 'Hippalectryon', which bared the Front-Half of a Horse, and the Rear-Half of a Rooster/Chicken, so in a way the Hippalectryon is like a Reverse-Hippogriff since the Horse & Bird halves are switched around.
@merlapittman5034
@merlapittman5034 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I have been a fan of griffins and hypogriffs ever since I first heard of them. Very informative and interesting video. On a side note, that ear cuff you're wearing is beautiful!
@jjhggdcqz
@jjhggdcqz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think culture has completely forgotten the griffin, they show up from time to time.
@yonirais4699
@yonirais4699 2 жыл бұрын
so glad you did this griffins are some of my favorite mythological creatures of all time
@markthegriffin
@markthegriffin 2 жыл бұрын
Always appreciated having such a cool creature for my family name, especially as a kid reading a lot of fantasy and history books!
@seangriffin2040
@seangriffin2040 2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@mograin355
@mograin355 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video!
@TheMightyX
@TheMightyX 2 жыл бұрын
Yay, I’m so happy! Griffins are my favorite! Thank you!
@bjgoodrich5864
@bjgoodrich5864 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video Dr Zarka!🐱
@jaxxi9036
@jaxxi9036 2 жыл бұрын
Another cool and informative episode Dr. Z. But what's even cooler is your ornate earring. I can't tell from my tiny-ass phone if that's supposed to be a griffin's wing, or just a wing in general. Either way, I love it!!
@pbsstoried
@pbsstoried 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a wing! Good eye. Just my little nod in this episode-*Dr.Z*
@AdamYJ
@AdamYJ 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they’re forgotten exactly. It’s more that as fantasy literature has gotten more fantastical, there has been less use for a fantasy creature that is just a big, badass beast. Maybe if they had some kind of magic we’d see more of them.
@nessus47
@nessus47 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Griffons are my all time fave mythical being but I never knew where it originated from. This was most interesting.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Griffins are awesome, and a favorite from my earliest AD&D gaming days!👍🧙😎
@diontaedaughtry974
@diontaedaughtry974 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and insightful
@thomascrownrg
@thomascrownrg 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this one..! I spent much of my childhood being regaled lol.
@mm3fredeluces490
@mm3fredeluces490 2 жыл бұрын
Love your Show! Griffin are awesome!
@rociomiranda5684
@rociomiranda5684 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video and support the idea of having one about the manticore. That's a cool monster not very often seen in popular media.
@rowanmccracken5041
@rowanmccracken5041 9 ай бұрын
Agreed! Manticores are some of my favourite mythical beasts!
@skyetoddmakeup
@skyetoddmakeup 2 жыл бұрын
That ear cuff is AWESOME.
@noahhogan9308
@noahhogan9308 2 жыл бұрын
AHHH, now THAT was a GREAT episode!!! :) I LOVE griffins!!!
@SeanM375
@SeanM375 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you finally got to the Griffin, another great episode, and on a serious note, you should do a blooper reel video :-)
@Facetiously.Esoteric
@Facetiously.Esoteric 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of adult and juvenile modern fantasy books that feature Griffins. Great video, thank you.
@user-wq1dt7li2x
@user-wq1dt7li2x 2 жыл бұрын
You added a biography!!! I hadn't actually thought your team would have seen my comment on the Persephone video. Thank you for sharing your research:) Edit: misspelling
@tecnotrog1
@tecnotrog1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent story🦉
@Yohanes_Wijaya
@Yohanes_Wijaya 2 жыл бұрын
I totally LOVE your earring(?) Dr. Z!
@LindaC616
@LindaC616 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a cuff
@scottieman2
@scottieman2 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@STEVIEABRAHAM
@STEVIEABRAHAM 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Z is back!!!!!!!! 🔥 Such a good series Monstrum, and she narrates it so well!!!
@camibvaz
@camibvaz 2 жыл бұрын
I am in love with your earring!
@kailanGoreng
@kailanGoreng 4 ай бұрын
It has always been my favorite mythical creature. They are simply awesome!
@wouter.de.ruiter
@wouter.de.ruiter 2 жыл бұрын
Love your ear jewellery! Could you show a close up of that?
@danr.1299
@danr.1299 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Z looking stunning as always
@lichesgetkisses7239
@lichesgetkisses7239 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Can you do a video about liches?
@CLAREROMVoid
@CLAREROMVoid 2 жыл бұрын
I had asked for a Griffin video a long time ago, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Finally my second favorite creature will have its power shown!
@EsetsMagi
@EsetsMagi 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your information you give it off so well and gracefully, I wouldnt be surprised if a Griffin is flying around you in Spirit
@brwhite5368
@brwhite5368 2 жыл бұрын
Finally. One of my favorite mythical creatures.
@johnnyrepine937
@johnnyrepine937 2 жыл бұрын
Nice earring, Dr. Z! ✨
@GryphonBrokewing
@GryphonBrokewing 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and discussion of the creature. Didn't realize its origin was so shrouded in legend as to not really have a more definite culture of genesis. Always been fond of them and used them as my persona's device (not approved) in the SCA.
@griffinfindlay5663
@griffinfindlay5663 Жыл бұрын
Very proud that I was named Griffin. Was tough to grow up with, but as an adult I have appreciated my parents choice. I even got a nice tattoo to represent it's power and strength. Nice video, thank you for posting it.
@OldGreyGryphon
@OldGreyGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
The gryphon and the werewolf are my two favorite mythological beasts. Griffins deserve more media attention/use.
@ValeVin
@ValeVin 2 жыл бұрын
I remember on Twitter one artist spent most of a year drawing were-gryphons. Was that you?
@OldGreyGryphon
@OldGreyGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValeVin Sadly no, but that sounds amazing! I’ll be looking them up now. Thank you.
@gandalflotr2898
@gandalflotr2898 Жыл бұрын
There's a tv show called my little pony friendship is magic there's a Griffin race living in a country called Griffonstone
@masterseal0418
@masterseal0418 2 жыл бұрын
Griffin: *Appears* Me: "Flock off, featherface!"
@stefanjakubowski8222
@stefanjakubowski8222 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid these were and still are my favorite mythical beast
@LightsOnTrees
@LightsOnTrees 2 жыл бұрын
very fitting earing!
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched Osiris & Isis. Now Griffins👑love your channel Dr. Z💖
@s4623
@s4623 2 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful ear trinket you have, Dr. Z. Where did you get one of those?
@av7501
@av7501 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Zarka: elite.
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