This was a very good video, and I definitely agree with the verdict! One thing I think could also be mentioned in Hashirama's favor is the Deity Gates, which are stated to seal the opponents willpower, which could debatably negate Roger's Haki even if you don't use verse equalization. Anyway, fire vid! Keep it up!

7:11 The users chakra is split between the clones, the only reason Madara didn't have power drop off on his clones was because reanimation, gives the reanimated bodies unlimited chakra.

These power scalers and debators are never to be trusted. They cherry pick and high/low ball respectives characters Edit: Came back here from notification and apparently it's an ongoing warzone here 💀

We haven’t even seen any true Roger feats. We saw him kinda beat Oden with no effort and a smile on his face. And we saw him stalemate WB with a smile-didn’t seem like they were trying to kill each other. Seemed more like an aggressive spar

Madara had to get EMS just to use perfect susanoo just to slice a mountain.... Meanwhile Garp while in base, just casually punch mountains as a warmup 😂

What's even worse for hashirama is that whitebeards "destroy the world" feat was when he was insanely wounded and has like stage 20 cancer, and Roger was on the level if not stronger than him when he was in his prime

hopefully we get to see what roger can do

massive lowball for Rogers speed by basing it of only SoL reaction at Wano. Luffy had SoL reaction time even in pre timeskip. And since then he has learned advanced observation haki and power cliffed massively in whole cake island

Respectable. Personally, I think it's the latter, for the reasons you stated. I just scale differently, but I have to respect the effort you put in, especially for a character we know little about. Now, someone debated on this before and asked where I place Hashirama in OP. Still believe he is admiral level, which I feel is fair, but like I said, I just scale differently. I do see what you saying though. -There is something I noticed before. People actually underrate future sight. What you said wasn't wrong, but people don't realize it's the actual future. They compare it to part 1 Sasuke sharingan when its more like Madara's "game" mangekyo sharingan. Just a heads up.

That isn't an accurate description of whitebeards power he doesn't just create tsunamis lol

Roger can also use ryou haki (advance armament) being a swordsman of his level.

After reading One Piece Wb isn’t planetary. Not 1 feat. Sengoku isn’t a reliable source as he’s never seen Wb destroy a Planet. The reason for the exaggeration is to make sure the marines take the fight serious but there’s still nothing backing up Wb being planetary. Along with Sabaody not being that far from Marineford.

Future sight isn’t the same as sharengan, sharengan can’t see the future.

IF Whitebeard was truly planetary, it was only thanks to the Gura Gura’s tectonic power. Roger, who’s relative to WB, sure as hell ain’t planetary. Because haki alone could never make anyone planetary

One thing you didn’t add is gravitational force which can change a lot with speed and power since the one piece world is much bigger they have a bigger gravitational force

I agree with everything except speed because you forgot to mention luffy gained the speed of his gear 4th in base at whole cake and then went on to get even stronger in wano gaining that even faster speed to his base once again so you forgot some multipliers

720 times the speed of light ? what kind of drugs did you take ?

Bro is just a Naruto meatrider

I feel like the speed scaling is wack. Same for Kaido's scaling. How can it only be 9 times FTL if Luffy in base was faster than light already, and Gear 2 is a 10 times amp? And Kaido one shot Luffy, so that attack should be waaaaay above just 9 times. Then we have to take into account how strong haki amps you, with fodder being able to make arrows blow through stone. Then we got Luffy in Whole cake island being around multi continental already, and he got multiple powerups that Roger would still be above. I don't see how Hashirama is surviving getting blitzed and Kamusari'd which is durability negation. Edit: ong bro used vs wiki💀

I cant say I agree but I respect your opinion. Good vids keep it up bro.

If recent OP chapters are anything to go off of, Roger is going to have feats of another caliber that we have yet to see.

I don’t know man 🤷‍♂️ an old Rayleigh (Roger’s Right Hand Man) was clashing with Kizaru who is the embodiment of light speed. SO6P Madara died to backshot from Black Zetsu. You know who wouldn’t? Just a weak character like Katakuri. You know what is faster than light, the future. The only argument I can for Naruto characters with light speed is the 4th Hokage, with their Flying Raijin technique. Unless we go with your case where Sakura is at least 850x the speed of light because she landed a punch on Kaguya, which speed should scale higher than both Hasirama and Madara 😂

AINT NO WAY, you said Hashirama can surpass haki, firstly its stupid to compared OBS haki to Sharigan because OBS is serepate from your senses, but next Haki doesnt not equal Charka, they are different

W as usual, and keep it up your growing fast. When I first saw your channel you was at 200 subs and that was just 2 months ago.

Hashirama vs Roger is really a good fight hashirama can stand in roger's conqueror's haki also roger could cut hashirama's wood with his divine departure the fight will be massive but roger have advantage because of his speed roger is fast if we really see him in other scenes and also roger could slash hashirama's wood release and a direct attack to hashirama.

Very nice 🔥🔥🔥🔥🖤

Yassop has best observation haki. He can continously see well into the future they stated in Red

Hashirama a would just jump Roger with his wood clones. What is stopping Hashirama from making his wood clones all summon their own 1000 arm budha clone?

Hashi would just stomps manh was laughing whn madara clocks his Susanoo witu nine tails

Light speed is so Fast in one piece that I can see it with my eyes

I don’t think the flying raigen counts as minatos speed. Him blitzing the raikage was only because of that technique he would literally be slower than naruto even in his transformation

1. If wb put all his haki and strength and his fruit into 1 punch he fragmenting that planet into 4 pieces. 2. You're acting like hashirama cant get blitzed. Just because youre fast doesnt mean you cant get blitzed. 3. I didnt know future sight became non existent. Roger can atleast see into the future for a few seconds. 4. Since acoc is dura-neg roger just needs to hit hashirama a few times to beat him. I think roger wins high diff at most

I am now wondering why i wasted my time😂💀

Comparing Naruto to OP is useless because no one knows the scale in OP so you all are guessing.Until we see Rodger go all out there is no comparison that will make sense.

Also how you gonna power scale people who havnt been given any real screen time. Just hypothetical on hypothetical

I Liked This Video, Due To The Fact That Even With Small Feats Between The Two Character Their Titles (King Of Pirates) And. (God Pf Shinobi), Means Something Already, Good Vid Mate

It’s like one piece flys directly over your head 😭 if you honestly think hashirama can defeat Rodger then you’re crazy , there is not a single Justu in his arsenal that can penetrate the defense of rodgers coating haki or fast enough even touch Rodger due to conquering haki allowing him to see 10 seconds into the future… also , hashirama literally was going to kill himself with a kunai .. a fucking kunai & a character like kaido fell from the sky head first & survived without a scratch & Rodger was stronger than kaido .. so Rodgers attack power is very very dangerous for hashirama…

This def not the way I would scale WB lmao

Hashirama just has better regeneration and better ap and more versatile.

Hashirama: “Damn it! I’m out of chakra!” Roger: “let’s go get a drink or something until you get it back”

Idc who wins, As long one piece is finally put at debate at yt.

When sengoku said that whitebeard can destory the world he never meant Earth and if you know how big is onepiece world (least DWARF STAR) size is u need to think again😂😂😂

Earthquakes also affect the mantle not just crust. About 900km in the range of damage considering it is just a regular earthquake. 1 shockwave in his prime should be enough to one shot a planet since his main feats are from marineford and he is severely weakened.

This isn’t really a good comparison. One of them barely get any confirmed seats we know characters he’s around the strength of butt white beard. We mostly see him out of his prime along with Garp, and the other guy. He fights is a mystery.

So Whitebeard is moon level? Lol Wb can break the air punches sekizo that’s guys used so Guy wouid have to use night guy which WB can dodge or use advanced Aranament haki to protect himself from night guy Also

1: the 73x SOL feat is invalid and has been debunked. the "calculation" was done through pixel scalling. if you look at the MANGA CANNON hokage naruto is having trouble saving himawari from deltas light speed laser. 2: the naruto data books are inconsistent and therfore INVALID, this further supports the first point and also debunks the world ending feat of kurama since FAR SUPERIOR characters like full power code and daemon dont even destroy the building they are on when they clash. 3: claiming primebeards world ending feat is surface level is HEADCANNON at best since we have been shown in real time that awekening turns the DF into a whole new beast. also the dynamic of roger/WB is questionable since sick roger is shown to rival a WB with no fruit, that would make sick roger equal to primebeard with no fruit (or with a fruit depending on whether you think WB did use his fruit off screen), on the other hand if you think roger is not affected by his illness then that would potentially put wb over roger or vice versa.

Would you do whitebeard vs tobirama?

Keep up the grind

awsome video

Powerscaling videos are literally the worst "hurr durr big number of TNT so character punchy hard!" 🤓

Bro if wb was able to destroy the world with his fruit then roger cant be said to be the same as we know wb would use his earthquakes and tsunamies so we can't say roger is moon level

Roger was killed by 2 regular blades during his execution so... his durability is just as iffy as Naruto humans imo

Vivre card kind if states that he wasn't actually planetary

Bro really said Hashirama can run around the world 5000 times in a single second… his numbers are making no sense. Like the attack potency of Hashirama is apparently 10x higher than Kurama even though he has nothing as destructive as a bijuudama. His wood release can absorb and supress chakra, that’s why he can beat the nine tails, and his wood release is extremely durable to be able to block those attacks, but that doesn’t mean his wood release hitting someone would do the same kind of damage, it just means that Hashirama is a hard counter for tailed beasts who have no techniques or skills, they’re just big and strong and blow sh*t up

W vid amazing content

Yeah you are right, i totally agree

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Kaido is so fast Luffy's future sight can't keep up Luffy says in chapter 1001 "dang it i was reading the future and everything it's so fast"

Why hashirama vs roger is not close 1 is a ninja 1 is a pirate Both are dead 1 has chakra 1 has haki Both are strong 1 has wood style 1 has d.departure Both do massive damage

I’m confused about hashirama’s speed. Why does he scale to minato? That makes no sense. Also he is not small planet level. But, all in all good vid. Except roger slams

Awesome vid and well scaled as usual

naruto is barely faster than light vs madara

My guy said high ball luffy and kaido speed bro that’s such a low ball it’s beyond crazy

If you think about even tho one Piece world is shown as a globe they low key are taking history and knowledge from flat earth theory… because within the flat earth theory, if the Earth was actually flat, it would be astronomically way larger than they said it would be even more landmass is yet to be undiscovered… and in one piece, they treat continents as islands, and in the flat earth theory the Earth as we know, it is not a globe in space, but a giant landmass in the infinite ocean

Luffy gear 5 vs Kizaru

So serious question is the entire verses speed based off the raikages statement? Pretty fragile reasoning if so

The easiest way to answer any fight against Roger is to ask wheither that character is capable of defeating Kaido. Kaido, Whitebeard, Big Mom, Shiki, AND ROCKS, lost to literally brute force and haki from Roger and Garp. This video is very biased towards Naruto, especially considering there's isn't enough data to scale, as stated early inthe video, yet somehow still scales them up.

its roger cuz we havent even seen him going all out

You say wb is exaggerated after senguko said while bejuu bomb is not? Your an obvious bias bro.

Bro am I only one who finds it stupid the one piece world having a surface area half a million times our own, like I understand and can agree with it being bigger but scaling it to twice our own star seems absurd and although things like the alabaster river have some crazy size I don’t at all think it was odas intention. The very max I can get on board with is continental one piece, star level one piece just seems like insane wank by op fans to try equalise it with the other big 3

WB can literally destroy the World, he can spam that power without any fatigue and he could also increase the output of his earthquake his just being careful having his crew beside him.

I think both verses are heavily highballed

I don't understand why a freaking wood bending is able to drain chakra and melt susanno💀💀

If pretimeskip luffy is lightspeed with gear 2, and post timeskip sabaody luffy is at least lightspeed in base, so with gear 2 he is 10c. (gear 2 is 10x multiplier not 5x) Disregarding any speed increases until dressrosa and assuming gear 4 is only a 2 times muliplier on top of gear 2 (this is very conservative), so dressrosa gear 4 luffy is 20c (10c base x 10 for gear 2 x 2 for gear 4). He also gets much faster when fighting katakuri but ill disregard that for now. Then in wano he goes from getting no diffed by kaido using gear 4, to fighting him in base and doing better than he did in gear 4 meaning his base is as fast as his pre wano gear 4 ie 20c. Therefore using gear 4 he is 400c (20c base x 10 for gear 2 x 2 for gear 4). Then gear 5 and a fully recovered luffy is easily a x2 multiplier and roger is easily at least 2 x as fast. So roger is at least 1600c. Ap isn't close, hashirama is way stronger. However as im saying roger around twice as fast and has dura neg, he blitzes and one shots. Of course this also depends on how you scale haki and chakra so there's no way to confrim.

Wouldn't hashirama's planetery level ap be weaker than roger's? since the naruto planet is probably extremely smaller compared to the one piece world.

I watch both anime but i don't remember hashirama displaying such strength,considering naruto is much stronger than the later after the war only displaying at least moon level strength.

Great video but I feel like you are being little biased.Half Kurama is not planetary. The thing is that, if half of kurama was planetary, it would cause so many plot holes in Naruto. Because then kaguya, momoshiki, isshiki etc., would literally destroy the naruto planet with a literal snap of their finger. But they can't do that. And if they were that strong truly then, their clash would literally destroy planets. So we can easily conclude that the Kurama statement refers to the rage. And thank god you didn't bring up the kaguya scaling which is bs. People think she created the dimension while in the official kanji it is stated that she only switches them. And I would say movement speed goes to hashirama while reflex and combat speed goes to roger. Sage mode does help with the reaction speed but the future sight is just too op. Shanks has at least 10 seconds of future sight and that is minimum. So roger would have great reaction speed. And we can see Zoro dodge kuma's attacks pre time skip which are light speed. So pre time skip zoro is faster than light. And this actually makes a lot of sense because post time skip luffy dodged light speed attacks and called them slow. And post time skip luffy is way faster than pre time skip zoro. I would say durability is roger considering he took attacks from wb. His durability and endurance should be very high. Hashirama has great durability but it wouldn't matter against roger who has multiple types of dura neg. Hax part I agree. Hashirama has sage mode, his wood style etc., which gives him decent advantage. But the hax different would not be like a complete 1 side stomp. Roger has great haki. He has 2 type of dura neg, ability to put his will power over others which can actually cause physical damage, and atleast a 10 second future sight. But hashirama does have the better hax. The thing is that, the Raikage was stated to be almost light speed. So KCM 1 Naruto is at least light speed. I would say KCM 1 Naruto is 2x SOL reaction because we were not given exact values but we can use some headcanon. And with the SO6P and KCM 3 and Sage mode and everything included it's safe to assume Naruto has 300x SOL reaction speed(We were not given specific values). But hashirama has way lesser speed than this Naruto. So this would make hashirama have lesser reaction speed than Roger.

Ok, firstly the whitebeard thing was stated in anime, the naruto kurama thing was stated in a databook, its like looking at a one piece databook that says zoro can cut the world with one blade, like your not gonna take that seriously because its not in story.

This susano one slash can cut anything in universe -madara uchiha. Who the fuck is roger then

You cannot scale minato or naruto to hashirama. Madara as we know has a sharingan and rinnegan he more than likely saw naruto coming from a mile away. And minato was also stated to be way faster than the other hokages, and his speed is only significantly amped due to the Flying thunder God technique.

Naruto world is way small then One piece 😂

awesome

SB is a naruto fangirl confirmed

Just off ur logic and dialogue i followed immediately 😂 love this analysis

I don't know why u r down playing op. well the entire vid is based on your perspective in my perspective i can scale roger above all top tiers in Naruto and roger can one shot hashirama.

Gonna be honest. I thought Roger was gonna win. But I'm OK with the outcome and this was a W vid

The one piece world is NOT bigger than the sun, not even close, if it was then it would take millenniums to cross the grand line and the new world.

Whitebeard has the power to destroy the world: one piece fans 😎 Kurama is said to be able to turn the world to ash: one piece fans 😡

I just wish we got more feats from some of one pieces strongest

I love both series and hashirama should have a massive edge in ap and raw hax. Roger’s Unga bunga taijutsu sword attack are not enough to put down a character like hashirama.

My personal view on this is, Roger was not only on par but surpassing a guy who has the power to literally destroy islands upon activating his power, that’s not to undertone on hashirama because outside of kaguya, Indura, asura, and other jinchuriki, he is by far the strongest character in the series by just naturally grown feats alone, but still we are talking about a guy who stands on top of the entire one piece verse, and as it stands I’d have to give this one to Roger

NHC hammer stream was wild

analysis was clean asf in this video.

We also like to ignore who they are im sorry i take the tree ninja who can clone himself over the most piratey pirate that ever did sail lmao

One piece planet being bigger than a star is still planetary, not star level

i think this is a disgusting downplay even sick old dying wb is able to shift tectonic plates around that is multi continental feat/moon level prime would upscale from that much much more him stated to be able to destroy multiple islands when he was made so with statements and feats he should be into low-mid planetary also why would you use wano calcs there are 5 different feats of sol characters pre time skip and fair amount post time skip and it is consistent as well idk you downplayed one piece like iam not even mentioning like planet calcs cause even with most consistent scales wb/roger should be above hashirama

I don't agree with speed calculation in both of the verses. I still think that they both are pretty relative in everything and there is no need for Verse equalization as Chakra being Spiritual enerr can harm haki user like Whitebeard got stabbed by swords even though he he had Haki. This match is going to draw I am sure about that.

Where’d you get the Calc that Naruto moves 73X faster than light

I dont agree with with this roger would be faster than hashirama as the admirals would be able to beat him

5:50 at the epicenter of 100's of biju bomb exploding.......did this not bring up any drastic red flags about how your power scaling of \Hashirama and hence every other Naruto character was Clearly way off? Why do people go off Unbacked words rather than the actual feats of the characters from their Media? NOTHING for the Naruto/Boruto series has truly come close to showing any character remotely close to fragmentation level, and I mean NOTHING. Its always been talk (Hyperbolic information) FEATS are what matter. Feats like how the best we have ever seen in Naruto/Boruto have only be around Mid country side at best, as shown/proven by examination of the battlefield and collateral damage of said fights. Not that this really matters as OP characters rely mostly on dealing meaningful direct attacks over the over dramatized AOE ish attacks from Naruto, to which case we still see that those CQC style attacks still prove comparable amounts of collateral damage then shown in the Naruto series. Why is this important, because FEATS are things that ACTUALLY happen. And don't even get me started on how wrong the Speed calcs are, or even the drastically underwhelming explanation of how Busted Haki is.