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yep.. this is why I scroll down

Why do I want a hamburger 🍔

Say his name

U can't blame him for loving his country no more then u can blame Americans for loving America

@@Joseph-fw6xxThe video itself sites sources where it is clearly stated that Heisenberg was pretty much Nazified during WW2 and did share many of the Third Reich’s ideas. He wasn’t just a patriot who stayed out of his love for Germany.

Walter White ?

same here haha

Same here but I didn't see the movie and I'm not really interested in it to be honest. I feel they're just going to holywoodize the events. Was it an accurate movie? Anyway, I love history and physics so I also subscribed. I'm a bit saddened to learn that men who were like heroes to me were either indifferent or sympathetic to Nazis.

Same I watched the movie and now want to learn more about the physicist involved in the Manhattan project

I decided not to see the movie Oppenheimer! Baby Boomer here! I feel like I know all too much about the threat of Nuclear War! I remember jumping under my school desk , wearing Dog Tags in October 1962 / Cuban Missile Crisis! My father was a former US Naval officer and scientist. Dad help build the very first Atomic Reactors for Submarines/Admiral Rickover's program! Dad wore a RADIATION BADGE to work every single day! Even as a little child , I knew how DANGEROUS Nuclear war would be if it ever happened! I vowed to NEVER have any children because "Nobody will ever FRY my children "! No regrets! Absolutely no regrets! Instead I worked to help educate people on the dangers of Nuclear War/ Nuclear Weapons Freeze Campaign 1980's! I also read the excellent book Killing Our Own by Harvey Wasserman! I remember Three Mile Island , Chernobyl and Fukushima! 🤔🤔🤯🤯🤯🤯🇩🇪🇨🇭🇺🇸🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊

​​@@GizmoMaltese I'm not an expert about Oppenheimer's life, but from what I've read, the only inaccurate thing about the movie is that it portrayed Oppenheimer as more regretful of having contributed to the creation of the nuclear bomb than he actually was

You have never done drugs?

I guess Walter was a LOT like his namesake, in that he was willing to collaborate with evil people to further his own achievements... he saw it a necessity to work with Gus the way Werner Heisenberg saw it a necessity to work with Nazis to further physics in Germany. They both thought they would come out on top anyways, even if the drug kingpin or dictatorial regime changes, because they believed in the value of their "work". Well in the series we discover that it's not the case, and Heisen-uhh Walter was betrayed by the Nazis, leading to his ultimate downfall, because he wasn't as irreplaceable as he thought, and his legacy would be forever tarnished for associating with evil. (Obligatory "Bravo Vince" for choosing Heisenberg as Walter's alter ego)

@@squidsbizarreadventure Who's 'Vince' ?

​@@walterevans2118Vince gilligan the creator of the show

The crossover event we didn’t know we needed

You did a great job. I've lost a lot of respect for Heisenberg

We love your exuberance. This is better than watching a movie. Thank you.

@@Supergravity He did what the vast majority of humans do when faced with self-preservation and the promotion of oneself. I see it every day. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. - Senator Robert Francis Kennedy

It's ok, Kathy; except for Leipzig, you did great. ❤

Kathy. You killed it. I subscribed immediately.

Wow, thank you!

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics It's a rather simple answer. He wasn't a rabid antisemite, most Germans weren't, but he was a German nationalist and anticommunist who had even helped the Freikorps put down the opportunistic Bolshevik uprisings in the aftermath of WW1. He viewed Stalin's regime is an evil which necessitated a strong Germany. It doesn't make him insane or racist by default.

@@bobshenix It most assuredly does make him racist. Racism is about effect, not intent.

@@pjaypender1009then everybody is a racist.

Ahh the whole everybody is racist so no one is racist defense. I never said he was an antiSemite. I said that the slaughter of most of his friends and their families wasn’t a deal breaker as long as he got to be a 1st class citizen. And he wasn’t worried about the Russians getting a bomb, in fact he debated with Weisacker after the war whether the Russians would be better for him or English/Americans. So he was no brave fighter against Stalin.

Me too. So much disappointment. Max Planck, however, was not a disappointment and Bohr was amazing.

​@@Kathy_Loves_Physics : Of course Schrodinger wrote that note to the Senate of the University. It was supposed to be private. The Nazis installed a new Rector (Reichelt) at his University who warned him of the fate ('cleansing') that awaited politically unreliable academics and advised him to put his excuses in writing. Bear in mind Schrodinger faced a more general threat. Von Laue was protected by senior Generals in the Heer, and Heisenberg by his family connections with Himmler; Schrodinger had no such insurance; at that time he was surveilled by the Gestapo. Also his house in Graz was searched. Little did poor little Erwin know that his 'confession' would be leaked to the papers! The Graz Tagespost in particular made a meal of it. But as Schrodinger's American biographer observed, Schrodinger did NOT - as was normal - end with 'Heil Hitler'.

The 'Confession" shown eight minutes into the clip shows (at 8:00) only that the man was under threat of life and livelihood. Now, one could justly accuse Schrodinger - and Heisenberg - of cowardice. Schrodinger even admitted it in a letter to Einstein dated July 19th, 1939; hoping Einstein would not judge him too harshly. He also remarked, "I wanted to remain free - and could not do so without great duplicity', so can legitimately be accused of lying. That said, I don't know that my moral courage would have been up to the test either.

​@@richardlinter4111It's true. You might do a lot to stay alive when you're surrounded by Nazis.

You think the letter from Schrodinger is disappointing? Just wait till you hear how he treated cats.

I recommend bobbybroccoli too, his storytelling is really unique and gripping too. Feels like watching a detective show.

So glad you liked it.

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You are quite welcome

Thanks and thanks for the comment!

I have read this from various sources and came to the same conclusion. Unlike what many of these unread viewers watching this video may suggest "as being disappointed in Heisenberg" for staying in Germany. He was not there for the Nazis or any political movement. He could do more in theoretical physics staying in Germany as the top physicist. He had more power in Germany and could be more of an influence there than outside of it. Heisenberg delaying the bomb is a far more powerful position than being on the outside (with less resources and advancement) racing against the top physics community at the time.

James Powell thanks.

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics As always ,you are most welcome!

“Once the rockets go up, who cares where they go down that’s someone else’s department,” said Werner con Braun.

Is "con Braun" a deliberate joke? If so, lol. BTW, loved this vid; please don't stop (and consider publishing a book. Please)

@@bootstrapperwilson7687 She Is

Was it written in the ‘Right Stuff’ where Americans caustically referred to ‘Rocket City’, Alabama as _Hunsville?_

I love this. Thank you!

Yes, well, it's even harder for native english speakers, there's a hard 'ts' after the 'p'. I did not immediately recognize what she meant. Though, fun fact, in the old books Leipzig is referenced in latin as 'Lipsia'.

Lype-tz-ik

X000S I would watch the $&@&$&@ out of that!

Like many physicists of his time and after, he was a political fool! Some comfort may lie in the fact that many bright people are politically idealistic. They let themselves be tools of their governments. Some do it for prestige; some do it because they were raised in the mythologies that governments propagate in schools.

German - Swiss American here ! Teacher, 37 years! It is always a good idea to Question Authority! ALWAYS! FASCISTS just want you to blindly follow and obey ! IMHO! 🤔🤯🇩🇪🇨🇭🇺🇸🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊

Keep in mind that he founded a marriage and a familiy in the WWII gap. He did the bare minimum for staying fine, and yes, Heisenberg lacked of empathy to thirds apart from his family, but he was also a victim of a dictatorship, playing a role he didn't want for survival (the proof is that he got depressed the rest of his life after WWII, not proud of his actions certainly). His patriotism and love for his homeland led him to this defensive status.

This is how the story has been told, especially by Heisenberg, but you can actually read the transcripts from the farmhouse yourself and see what he actually said which was basically “I can’t believe the people who discovered this in the first place cannot figure out how the Americans made the bomb”. The farmhouse by the way had plenty of paper and they actually held colloquia to discuss their research.

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After the war, Heisenberg hinted that he had worked to slow the pace of the German research programme. He was a smart guy, so he would have probably have said that, even if it was not true. I think the Farm Hall transcripts show that the Germans interned there were quite surprised by the revelation of the allied atom bomb. They had been hoping to sell their valuable skills and knowledge to the allied victors and then suddenly discovered that they weren't so unique and valuable after all.

@@ravanpee1325 Once they knew it was possible, the interned Germans scientists would have easily been able to figure out how it was done. But nothing in the Farm Hall transcripts suggests that, before that, the Germans had well developed concept designs for atom bombs. I've also read the redacted and published version of LA-1, the Los Alamos Primer. That shows how the required physics is really fairly simple. The technical and industrial capacities required to turn those ideas into a working bomb were another matter though.

They were playing pool with the lights off.

They were basically building atomic bomb with just calculator

Why would developing the bomb be bad? Were the people who developed the bombs in the US and Soviet Union respectively bad people? Were they operating under different motivations from him?

Why would being the first to develop a bomb slow down making a bomb? The Americans only put money into it when they realized 2 years after Heisenberg started that they were stockpiling Uranium and Plutonium. If Heisenberg was forced to work on the bomb (which he never claimed instead saying he volunteered) and wanted to derail it, why not just ask for a lot less Uranium? He could have single-handedly stopped the Manhattan Project before it started. And still been treated like a rock star by the Nazi’s (trips to Switzerland and Paris and used as PR in occupied counties.) Planck kept science in Germany. And didn’t lose his humanity in the process. That is why Lise Meitner said that “no one did more to fight Hitler than this 80 year old man” and that “they should force Heisenberg and people like him to see what they have done [in the camps] for themselves. What Heisenberg did in Copenhagen is unforgivable” (mind you, that letter was before the bomb, she was talking about Heisenberg promoting the Nazis publicly in 1941.

Yes they were. The US scientists were trying to build a bomb before Hitler got one and became ruler of the world. Heisenberg was trying to make a bomb so he could be a 1st class citizen in Nazi Germany (and he would have been fine if he had refused by saying it wasn’t possible- Otto Hahn didn’t work on the bomb and he was totally fine).

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics wow you claim that all this is proven? What happened in Copenhagen was never totally clear. I am not saying that Heisenberg did not have the intention to build a bomb. I am just saying we just do not know the facts are not clear.

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics The Germans were definitely not stockpiling plutonium in WW2 - they had no means of producing it. They did do their best to stockpile natural uranium and to chemically and metallurgically purify it into reactor grade material. But, due to the division of their limited stocks of reactor grade uranium and heavy water between different competing research groups, I don't think they could ever have made a working atomic pile

I do not have a source and I am not sure that it is completely true, but during the Nazi regime, only Germans won the Nobel Prize.

@@gpwgpw555 this is not entirely correct, although several german physicists won the prize during that period and for good reasons. No prizes were awarded between 1940-1942.

Meitner's American biographer looked into this with other experts, when the Nobel archives were unsealed. Their joint verdict: "Meitner's exclusion from the chemistry award may well be summarized as a mixture of disciplinary bias, political obtuseness, ignorance, and haste." Appeasement, if any, was not a substantial contribution.

remember that the winners write history.

@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq Germany lost so why do we let the people who willingly worked for Hitler write the narrative?

I never thought about it like this but that makes so much sense

WaskiSquirrel I’ve gotten pretty negative on Heisenberg but see if you agree with my next video.

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics What if the Americans secretly "recruited" him....

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics Can’t quite understand the negativity, since both America and the Soviets whisked away many German engineers and scientists after the war to help with their rocket and space programs.

@@riazhassan6570 yes world ignores this factor

@@criscrosxxx no, world does not

So glad you liked it

At first I thought you were saying that all my words were "blah blah blah" and I was offended. But then I remembered that I did say "blah" and I am glad that you found it so amusing.

Same :)

The Nazis had several uranium projects most of which fought each other. None took the notion of a bomb seriously for long, believing it impossible for either Axis or Allies - not least because isotope separation was so difficult. Heisenberg in particular worked on developing a reactor only, believing this worthwhile in its own right and also being the only way to, long term, developing a (plutonium) bomb. The very brief period when (some of) the Nazi scientists took bomb development seriously included the moment when Heisenberg met Bohr.

Thank you for your lovely comment and good luck with your PhD program. Yeah I know what you mean about dangerous morons in power. Wish I didn’t

Fortunately it looks like you'll get rid of him now. I have some Brazilian friends here in Sweden that are about as concerned about him as you seem to be. Best of luck to you friend

@@PetterssonRobin I am Brazilian as well (however, my true name is Rafael Resende de Oliveira Goldschmidt, not Maria José Resende, which is the name of my mother (I’m writing from her computer)). Bolsonaro is a menace that must be dealt with at all costs. However, the main opposition leader (Lula) is almost as bad of a political element as he is, but I guess it is what we can work with at the moment.

I dont think there is any question mark he was just arrogant german supremist. There is no question about it. He was genuienly suprised that someon secceed where he failed. So there was not any secret code in what he said to Bohr.

What do you say to people who are doing the same thing again in today's world in supporting countries like India and ISreal

@@niznizam I haven' seen Israel or India invade 11 countries, like Germany did (and 2 wars)....and kill 50-70 million people (2.5 % of the population at the time)....there are other countries much worse than India or Israel

@@javierderivero9299 so you are saying that Hitler is considered evil bec he invaded 11 countries and not because of his treatment of the Jews in Germany? If he hadnt invaded the other countries, he wouldnt be called such a person as he is considered now?

@@niznizam you clearly forget the attack on minorities in muslim countries like Pakistan , Bangladesh etc.

I am not sure about that!

Why do you say that Heisenberg helped that Germany didn’t have the resources to build a bomb? Is there anything and I mean anything prior to 1945 that supports that theory? Because there’s lots that supports the opposite including military letters that he wrote for the Nazis (as well as telling Bohr directly that he thought he could make the bomb).

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics Heisenberg told Albert Speer the armaments minister in 1942 atomic weapons would not be ready before 1947. Speer pulled all funding in the fall of 1942 knowing the war would be settled one way or the other by then and the resources involved were better used elsewhere. Some smaller funding for reactor research continued for the purpose of energy generation.

Yeah but he oversold with the "Peace in our time" speech. That certainly didn't prepare the country for what might be ahead.

@@tjsbbi Yes and no. He had to go with public sentiment whilst preparing the country for war. In 1938 there was no public support for war over Czechoslovakia. So yes the phrase "peace in our time" was political hyperbole, but by the time Chamberlain made the declaration of war in 1939 the British public were prepared to accept it was necessary. I think you could actually argue that because he was seen as somebody who desperately wanted peace and only led the country into war when there was no other choice he was able to carry the British people with him. I would argue that whilst Churchill was a great wartime leader he would not have been able to carry the British people with him in a declaration of war had he been Prime Minister in 1938 and 1939. He was perceived as too much of a warmonger., Though that was a factor that was of no consequence once the war had started . I think Chamberlain was the right man to be in power in the run-up to the war. He took the necessary practical steps to prepare for it whilst doing what was politically necessary to stay in power so he could take those steps and because he was somebody who was seen as not wanting a war he was able to remain in power and carry the people with him when it came to declaring war. I would also suggest that those words pale into insignificance compared to the practical steps he took to prepare the country for war. I see Chamberlain's realpolitik as not dissimilar to Roosevelt having to keep public sentiment onside by appearing to do his best to keep America out of the war because of the large isolationist sentiment amongst American voters, even though he thought it likely that America would have to get involved in the war. He had to take public sentiment with him and any obvious steps to directly involve America in the war would have seen him removed from office. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour and Germany's subsequent declaration of War on the US rather solved that dilemma for him, much as Hitler's invasion of Poland did the same for Chamberlain. Politically neither man could be seen to be in favour of their country going to war until it was absolutely necessary.

Churchill also boasted he would destroy Chamberlain's reputation, Chamberlain died of cancer in 1940 so funnily enough couldn't argue back

That is the real conundrum. And we usually pretend it isn’t true by either denigrating the science (like with Phillip Lenard) or pretending that the person wasn’t really illogical and craven when faced with moral tests like Heisenberg.

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics so cool that you responded! I'm a huge fan! I've been binge watching all of your videos. I especially enjoyed the ones with George Westinghouse. I've also become a huge Westinghouse fan!

Not really, more than 80% of scientists have asberger ( this is the future of mankind) otherwise they cannot sit still sufficiently long time to learn science. Average IQ of asbergers is 120 but social knowledge is emotional not intellectual.

Puzzles me too. I think we underestimate the fact that scientists are, to a significant extent, susceptible to the same confirmation bias and belief in pseudoscientific gobbledegook as the rest of us. Just look at the stuff that Nobel winners like James Watson and William Shockley swore by. Disappointing.

Always leave them on a cliffhanger. GREAT vid.

Sorry, let us just leave it at: Heisenberg wanted to promote German science and impress Bohr.

Thanks Ty

I was so disappointed in him.

You can always accept the good being offered. And not all events in history are pure good vs evil. For Ex: People in UK consider Churchill as war hero, while the same individual is seen as mass murderer in Bengal.

For me He still is mostly even tho im jewish

​@@kishoretiwari8141Or look at how many people Churchill sent to death at Gallipoli, useless deaths.

@@Kathy_Loves_PhysicsI think you are viewing him from an American perspective. To leave everyting behind you treasure because your country is ruled by a regime is not an easy decision to make. It seems to me like you paint him in a bad light just for staying and living in Germany, because Germany at the time was „bad“ and in consequence working there must be too. In the end there was no greater ramification and he did indeed help the physics community during those times, even if he had to compromise with the people in power. You in return judge him for not abondoning everything he worked for. It seems like the historic arrogance of those looking back. He himself in the Interviews he gave in german was not a narcissitic person to think himself the center of german science. Please consider a more factual approach.