Great, balanced & honest overview of this very important decision many of us had to make at some point. Thank you! Speaking for the "other side", my only comment would be on the 'commitment-to-topic' aspect. Nobody can predict with certainty how 3+ years of research onward, the state-of-the-art will look like. As a result, the topic of my PhD thesis concerns an area of representation learning which didn't really properly form (certainly not in the way we know it right now!) at the time I started my PhD. Assuming your advisor is open-minded and supportive, it is certainly possible (and often encouraged!) to take regular internships, either industrial or academic, while doing a PhD. This can at the same time expose you to industrial work and offer wide classes of interesting problems that can feed back into your research. I've taken it to the extreme (my PhD thesis is consisted of _only_ work done during internships), but I'm certainly not the only one with a similar story. So a commitment to topic is not always necessary and some degree of wiggle room tends to always be possible. Of course, while this works for migrating across certain subfields of machine learning, this may not be the case for moving between machine learning and type theory (though I have seen some work pop up at the intersection! :) ).
@MukulRathi3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience Petar! It seems that line between industry and PhD really is more of a sliding scale. To be honest I’m not sure where on that scale I’ll end up in the future, so it’s helpful to hear your perspective :)
@UnconventionalReasoning10 ай бұрын
This is a really simple situation: When asked, "Why do you want to do a PhD?", if the hesitation is longer than 5 seconds, skip it. It requires a level of obsession which the student already must have. Some care should be taken when talking about "industry", because the handful of places like Facebook and Google are relatively unique in offering "research" opportunities. Most companies are about a combination of design and implementation. Many will find that exciting, but it should be considered accurately.
@MukulRathi3 жыл бұрын
A more chill video discussing why I’m not doing a PhD, as requested by you guys. I’ll release the video about my degree later as it’s still being scripted and it’s a video I really want to make a step function better than other videos!
@loveUbleach4ever2 жыл бұрын
you are not doing it bcz you got job, plenty of immigrants who come here on f1 visa also dont want to do phd because its ducking stupid, it just kills creativity.
@seant79072 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm hoping you're in good health wherever you are. Thank you for the insights you've provided in this video. I'm a Master student and a graduate research student who's currently feeling the same conflicts. I want to be an expert in my field because I'm not that good but on the other hand (in my opinion), researching is kinda tiring because you need to be able to constantly compete with top minds around the world. This video gives me a new perspective. Thank you!
@PrecisionSportScience2 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone think the choice is binary - EITHER get a PhD OR get industry employment experience. You can do both!!! It’s called an industry emended PhD where you’re a 100% full time employee getting hands on industry experience solving real world problems while simultaneously getting a PhD. This is not new :)
@MukulRathi2 жыл бұрын
I discuss this ( the option of industry research) near the end of the video
@ionwhy2561 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! I learned something new!!
@UnconventionalReasoning10 ай бұрын
While not new, I think it is much more rare than some might think.
@armedtuxedo66323 ай бұрын
@@UnconventionalReasoning Rare and requires multiple factors to align together: 1. Your company must value your growth enough to be able to sponsor your research for 5 years 2. The research topic proposed by you and your company must be aligned with the advisor at uni 3. Apart from some high visibility fields like ML or Distributed Systems, sponsored phds are very rare in other scientific fields
@sahandissanayaka52502 жыл бұрын
You made really good and fair points. 80 % agree with you but I do have some concerns, One is reputation. Most of the time, thanks to PhD holders we have a profound and solid theriotical framework in our higher education system specially in the area of computer science. At the same time I see DRY(Dont repeat yourself) in the industry where we will limit for the certain frame. Btw, thanks for posting this video. Cheers
@quantumjun2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I found choosing of a topic is really difficult
@Tommybotham10 ай бұрын
I did a Physics PhD, went into industry straight after and spent 6 years working up to a £100k+ salary. During those 6 years, I didn't earn up to £40k per annum unless I tutored/lectured on the side. I think I played the long game very well. The UK is horrible for actual STEM and I would not suggest anyone to stay here after having done a STEM PhD. Go overseas instead. If you consider "tech" to just be a bog standard data analyst/scientist role that a PhD could do in his sleep, then of course remain in the UK and hope that the hiring manager doesn't overlook you in favour of someone who just did a BSc in Comp Sci.
@johannes523 Жыл бұрын
Perfect introduction! 😄
@razvanispas589011 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this useful video. I had the same thoughts regarding the industry and academia when I thought about the scenario where I would pursue a PhD.
@santoshmohanram536 Жыл бұрын
Hi brother. I have done my UG in computer science (BSc) i am really interested in Deep Learning, Reinforcement Learning and very much interested in learning how the brain works.I am doing self learning on these fields.I figured out that Computational Neuroscience helps in understanding brain functionality with the help of math and computer.I wanted to do research in this field and understand how brain works. So my question is can i get a research level job in any company with the educational ground i have.
@combatninjaturtle4 ай бұрын
Very less chance
@RR-qx3vc3 жыл бұрын
You are really great and your contents are soo good.Waiting for the video where you will discuss about your Cambridge degree.Keep it up.We want to see more videos from you like this
@MukulRathi3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support! I really appreciate it :)
@aadarshktofficial Жыл бұрын
Helpful
@nithyasrisrivathsan85152 жыл бұрын
Do the residency industry research programs require you to be enrolled in a master's program? Or can it just be a full time one year thing? Also, it's a pretty neat little video on a much neglected topic so big up!
@nadiianovakova14293 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@ds_test96873 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, I have been having similar train of thought, now I feel I am having confirmation bias. So here is my dilemma, I just have a bachelor's degree in computer science instead of doing a masters I joined an early stage startup where I got exposed to research and topics like privacy preserving ML, a lot of this stuff doesn't work and still in early days. Also a lot papers that I came across is real garbage, I understand that you have to get yourself published once you get into the PhD but many people say that PhD is just another barrier to get FAANG roles. Also to get Applied Scientist roles do you really need a Masters/PhD cause it's mentioned as preferred/mandatory under job requirements but many of the packages I have seen written like Crypten and other PPML are written by typical software engineer folks. So is Master's really mandatory to get into FAANG if you have some work ex in DS/ML? Waiting for more videos to come on this, I guess you will be covering more on this I guess.
@MukulRathi3 жыл бұрын
To be honest your best bet is to ask a FAANG recruiter about your individual circumstances, as they’ll know way more about it than I do.
@shatabdisarkar39982 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I left my corporate job to join PhD program and now I regret my decision. I'm still in the exploring phase and haven't chosen a topic yet, so I'm reconsidering my decision for now.
@rakshithm1257 Жыл бұрын
Run before you get trapped.
@ChitraNaharki5 ай бұрын
Did you start?😊
@tausifnazim50482 ай бұрын
Money >>> Phd
@lkjdncf51533 жыл бұрын
Great video! Often find myself asking this same question! What field did you do your bachelor's dissertation on?
@MukulRathi3 жыл бұрын
My bachelor’s dissertation was in type systems (programming language theory). Making a video about it next month!
@convolutionalnn25822 жыл бұрын
What are maths require for computer vision research scientist?
@jaydave2722 жыл бұрын
Hey mukul I have a question. I'm in 2nd year engineering college cs degree. Recently I have applied for fb internship for swe role but my resume wasn't shortlisted (due to no previous internship). So I did an internship at startup, but now the startup is going to be shut down. So my question is that if I get selected for internship/full time position in future. Will they run a background verification check for internship mentioned in my resume, Cause I'm scared if something goes wrong even after getting offer. I know my question is weird but I just want to ask u that do fb run background check verification for internships, did they done bgv for your previous internships? Thank you in advance sir!
@MukulRathi2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about background verification so can’t comment on behalf of FB, but I think you should be fine as clearly you did intern there and presumably had an employment contract.
@gghhff33443 ай бұрын
Do you have a PhD?
@aoodikha676 Жыл бұрын
Hlo sir can I talk to u
@aoodikha676 Жыл бұрын
I need your help the way you told about your journey and struggle to became a self taugh ml developer I am very much confused and i am at the same level where u started. I need much of your help Thank u From india