I'm a nurse and I originally applied for the Np program, however, I finally decided i wouldn't be happy answering to a physician forever. I'm starting prerequisites for MD school next month. Thanks for being an inspiration.
@chrisd67365 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s pretty cool but a very long haul. Just make sure you do all the opportunity cost analysis. Being a nurse is a damn good job with damn good earnings potential. Med school debt and lost earnings during residency is nothing to sneeze at.
@kaitlynkilpatrick365 жыл бұрын
@@chrisd6736 it's definitely a financial investment but at the same time sometimes opportunity cost doesn't outweigh the fact that you know you won't be happy in that particular field.
@chrisd67365 жыл бұрын
Kaitlyn Kilpatrick- ya for sure. Just want OP to be 100% sure is all.
@Kwicdrawmcgraw5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't want to be a doctor for the money. NP salary is enough for me. I want autonomy, knowledge, and to be on charge of serving my community.
@fearlesswomen78995 жыл бұрын
NP are independent providers in many states
@dookfnp11 ай бұрын
I’m an NP and have been for 24 years. I was an RN for 14 years before getting my masters in nursing. So now 38 years total of being a nurse and I am happy with my career. I’ve helped a lot of people along the way. Thank you SO much for this video. It was very respectful of NP’s and PA’s and I appreciate it. I have really never had a “problem” with having a collaborative physician. They have all been very supportive of me, my role and what I can bring to the table. We are all in this together and collaboration is a huge part of everyone’s role in healthcare.
@Qagtol4 жыл бұрын
I became a PA through the U.S. Air Force Health Professions Scholarship Program. They covered my tuition and books 100% and paid me a monthly stipend which was more than enough for living expenses. I graduated PA school debt free and with some money in my pocket. Best educational decision I ever made. I have been practicing for over 5 years and loving every minute of it.
@cubanorasta944 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me more about your journey as a PA in the Air Force?
@thenightdances214 жыл бұрын
Yes please can you tell us about your PA journey in the military?
@jasmineadams96574 жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing Air Force ROTC and I’m thinking about going to PA school through the HPSP scholarship program. Please speak more on this!!
@Qagtol4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasa4239 My "MOS" was 42G3. And just so you know, we don't call it MOS in the Air Force. It's AFSC. And why are you saying this is BS. You don't know me.
@Qagtol4 жыл бұрын
@@cubanorasta94 Once you get accepted to a PA school of your choice you can apply for the Air Force Health Professions Scholarship, just call a local recruiter. Once you get set up the AF pays tuition and books for PA school and gives you a stipend to live off of every month. Once you graduate you owe 3 years of service in the AF as a PA. You will start out doing Family Med for at least 2 years.
@JohnThePA4 жыл бұрын
I'm a PA and I wanted to become a PA. My message to all of you on the fence is that if you've ever seen yourself as a doctor - go to medical school and do your time. There are no shortcuts. I'm happy being a PA and I make really good money in the ER. But you'll never be happy being a PA if you want to do surgeries or call 99% of the shots (the other 1% being administrators and politicians telling you what to do).
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
Well said
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
PAs practice in surgical fields and from what I’ve seen, most are fully autonomous in their practice.
@mattgehm78273 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyallen8094 they practice in surgical fields but will never be the lead provider in the OR. They are first assist and sometimes not even that if there is a resident. On the surgical floors they may have more free decision making but even then the physician can still over rule and has the final say
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
@@mattgehm7827 I meant more as a whole, PAs are pretty autonomous from what I’ve witnessed. But that’s the beauty of it all: so many specialities and levels of providers that one can choose where they feel most comfortable.
I started medschool 6 years ago, and this year in august I will finally be done!
@DivineSeaDragon5 жыл бұрын
congratulations!
@tkeks0075 жыл бұрын
How to Medicate CONGRATULATIONS 😊🎉🎉🎉
@howtomedicate5 жыл бұрын
@@tkeks007 thank you!
@amandal.14225 жыл бұрын
Congrats!! May i ask why it took you 6 years?
@andreijhorn58494 жыл бұрын
Amanda L. Many countries have 6 year med schools with a 2-4 year working community service/residency after. It's 6 years because we have the option of entering med school straight out of high school. The degree is generally called MBChB or MBBS. As opposed to the American/Canadian MD or DO. It comes out to the same thing though and we cam apply to US residencies directly after med school as long as USMLE is completed.
@ezellstewart38945 жыл бұрын
Wrapping up my second semester of physics, taking it one step at a time to reach my goal. I have a long way to go but I will get there no matter what. It’s a marathon not a sprint
@tracy_cakkes5 жыл бұрын
Same Premed is no joke I’m appreciating each small accomplishment
@rntomd78394 жыл бұрын
Exactly, have to take it one step at a time
@gwillis013 жыл бұрын
Keep going and don't stop. Your hard work will pay off.
@JohnSmithAwesomeSauce553 жыл бұрын
Well said... how you doing now? I’m just starting my first classes
@johnkirk8650 Жыл бұрын
After you finish step one as a premed, you have to study for STEP ONE
@TheCousinEddie5 жыл бұрын
Great video! During my 18 years of being a Critical Care RN I've only met one physician that changed their specialty mid-career. He went from internal medicine to Anesthesiology in his mid-forty's.
@PCTLadyPuterTutor2 жыл бұрын
My son started out licensed in Internal Medicine and then decided to specialize in Cardiology, adding 3 more years of cardiology fellowship after residency to his schooling. So he has 14 years of schooling under his belt.
@dakeyah93314 жыл бұрын
this is hard, I'm currently having this struggle. I know I am meant to lead and like the autonomy part of MD, but at the same time I like the freedom to learn other specialties ..
@cmhardin374 жыл бұрын
Yeah imagine being stuck in a specialty that you no longer enjoy. When you graduate from PA school, you can work a full-time job during the week while picking up additional hours at nights and weekends in the emergency room. Well medical residents make minimum wage working 80 hours a week, you can make full salary 80 hours a week.
@WildeMike493 жыл бұрын
Go into internal medicine if you want flexibility to find a subspecialty along the way
@janake75 жыл бұрын
The beauty of career choices of medicine you can pick and choose wherever you want. I am FNP I do not regret my decision and proud of those who pursue being a doctor. You have to find your niche in what role you choose. It takes dedication perseverance and focus!!
@vmntmn5 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr. Antonio Webb, Thank you for this video. It has helped me decide that I want to become a MD. I have been driving myself crazy for the past few years trying to decide if I wanted to be an engineer, ibanker, CRNA, Dentist, or computer scientist, and so on. I hope your health is good and your life is great. Best
@becca990045 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. I’m still stuck between PA and med school
@armandosolis35605 жыл бұрын
Med School!!!!
@dontrealbrown2255 жыл бұрын
I’m stuck between PA and MD too. I’m leaning more towards PA.
@DivineSeaDragon5 жыл бұрын
Becca PA!!!
@MHSMagicLuver5 жыл бұрын
I am a PA student :) if you have any questions you can DM me on Instagram. I love answering questions and it’s easier than on here. @lisafellis
@adaezenjoku75274 жыл бұрын
@@Mursejeff there's no reason to do NP over PA if you're not already a nurse if anything PA is better
@ThatOneScienceGuy3 жыл бұрын
“I didn’t want to answer to anyone” yeah I get it, especially after being in the military following orders.
@10byrdie5 жыл бұрын
You can’t switch specialties as an NP. You have to go back to school to specialize. Only PA’s can switch specialities without any schooling.
@Dtxserg5 жыл бұрын
AB Actuslly you can switch between professions if you’re a Family Nurse Practitioner, many people aren’t aware of this and are under the impression that only Physician assistants can switch between professions however this is untrue.
@segovian4 жыл бұрын
Actually, that's false. The specialties that cannot switch are Psychiatric, Midwife, and Anesthesia. The rest can do it easily. If you're working in the ER and want to go into surgery, it's not impossible. You just have to learn new things, just like you would as a PA if you wanted to switch
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
@@Dtxserg thank you for saying this many people don't do their own research they run with everything they hear.
@michellerowe-smith58032 ай бұрын
@@DtxsergLike you said NP can’t just switch because they are advanced nursing in different areas. FNP think that they can switch but most of them realize that when they try surgical sub specialties they fail miserably because they don’t learn any of the surgical skills necessary in NP school. In California they can’t get certified for Fluoroscopy and any work in orthopedic or other surgical specialties that utilizes fluoroscopy.
@DrAdnan5 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting to see the increasing autonomy of NP’s and PA’s over the years, especially in primary care
@geraldomedrano55585 жыл бұрын
Do you think they should have that autonomy? Are they as capable of effectively treating patients as an MD trained primary care physician?
@HRU-ou3vi5 жыл бұрын
I think it will only increase overtime.
@howtomedicate5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it makes care cheaper to. This is one of the great benefits.
@geraldomedrano55585 жыл бұрын
@@howtomedicate but then why do we need physicians in primary care when NPs and PAs can do the job just as effectively and save everyone money
@howtomedicate5 жыл бұрын
@@geraldomedrano5558 they are only allowed to act in a small predetermind field. So they lack the overview of an GP.
@lucascooper36132 жыл бұрын
You’re such a badass. The way you simply described your reasons at the end of the video for becoming an MD really got me.
@jennyobiliseen43015 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool that I found your channel. I actually know a person that works at your hospital and has met you and your attending.
@danlandino67354 жыл бұрын
I just got into PA school and am starting May 18th. My dream is to work in ortho and I have shadowed several ortho PAs and MDs. I love watching your videos and can’t wait to begin my journey!
@antoniowebbmd4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Congrats on your acceptance and good luck! Stay in touch 👊🏾
@Mini-rt8bm2 жыл бұрын
Are you done with your program yet ?
@danlandino67352 жыл бұрын
@@Mini-rt8bm just finished a couple weeks ago
@IslemTav Жыл бұрын
May I ask what you did for PCE? Were you already in the healthcare field?
@danlandino6735 Жыл бұрын
@@IslemTav so out of high school I became an EMT by my second year of college. While volunteering as an EMT I also was working my daily job at a grocery store while in undergrad and they licensed me as a pharmacy tech. After graduation I worked for Pfizer as a research tech and preceptor running phase 1 drug trials, and lastly while working for pfizer and getting my application ready I volunteered on my two days off for a free healthcare clinic as a medical assistant. Thats where a retired ortho surgeon took me under his wing and really got me into ortho. Now I work for a small community hospital with no residents in ortho/spine. I was brought on as the spine PA but I also help to cover joint replacements, hand/upper extremity, and sports medicine. I love it so far and have gotten great experience working in both an outpatient clinic and first assisting in the OR weekly.
@medbookish91745 жыл бұрын
Dr. Webb I have got selected in M.S in Orthopedic Surgery residency in India and it is for 3 years. Thank you for your support 😊
@howtomedicate5 жыл бұрын
Great choice, and good luck!
@tkeks0075 жыл бұрын
med bookish CONGRATULATIONS 😊🎉🎉🎉
@mustafaaa7725 жыл бұрын
Damn congrats man!
@coffeepandacat3 жыл бұрын
I want to be a CRNA. A lot of things that Antonio says inspires me and his journey. He is an example of if you really want something and you work tooth and nail for it, it can be done.
@leeslyrose4 жыл бұрын
I went to a sports medicine magnet program in high school and I’ve always been into podiatry and bones but I also want to raise a family so I think I’ll b sticking to PA and focus on ortho and sports med :)
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
Ortho/sports med is my first love, too! I start shadowing at a clinic Thursday!!
@Chynita2 ай бұрын
I worked for an orthopedics and sports medicine practice. I loved it! I plan on pursuing sports medicine as a nurse.
@Rekuiem_01054 жыл бұрын
in the rest of the medical field, it's a blend. But in the OR, it's a whole different world.
@zhinningenge17548 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm a DNP. A recent study showed that DNPs who took a simplified version of the USMLE had very low pass rates (about 30%). New medical school graduates have a 98% pass rate, btw. The level/quality of training is not at all comparable. If you want to be a doctor, just go to medical school. Yes, we NPs and PAs do play an important role but...
@stefaniebuissereth1083 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a registered nurse for 16 years before before becoming a nurse practitioner ...looking forward to an advancement in my career
@starofairdrie3 жыл бұрын
good for you!
@corinneobrien61964 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Even though I have near perfect grades at an Ivy League and am a good candidate for medical school, my parents keep trying to pressure me to do PA school instead specifically because they want whats best for themselves, not me. Part of the reason is that they really want me to be in a more traditionally feminine role because I am a lesbian and they hate that. They think that by forcing me into traditionally feminine roles, I’ll eventually have no choice but to eventually be so desperate for survival and have no choice but to decide to pretend I’m straight for the rest of my life. They would rather I be an elementary school teacher or a nurse than be wealthy or happy. I am not going into medicine for the money, but seriously, my mom has spent years trying to force me to become an elementary school teacher or quit school and become a manicurist- things that people just do not make a basic living doing in our modern world (at least where I’m from, teachers were so underpaid that the majority could not survive without food stamps and housing assistance and make less than the average bartender). I get that PA school is a good decision for some people, but it’s not for me and I’m sick and tired of being pressured into it, especially when they start pulling out anecdotal evidence of that one rare PA that makes more money than a doctor. This video is the first time I’ve heard someone unapologetically admit that PA is not better than MD for everyone. We should just give people the information and let them decide what’s best for them. Thank you for your great work.
@travissmarion2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in my nursing school, but most likely going into PA school afterwards. If I were younger I would have chosen to go to medical school, but unfortunately I decided to do a career change when I was almost 40 years old... 🤦🏻 I didn't want to do 13+ years of schooling and not be able to start seeing the fruits of my labor until I was 55 years old.
@bryandelcid40654 жыл бұрын
MD route is just so long. You really won't start seeing the money until like 15 years later due to high debt after finishing school and the quality of life for med students and residents is just not good. With that being said I would have to say that it's worth it for the surgeon specialty. I am no surgeon but I would do all the hard, long, and exhausting work just to be a surgeon.
@DrDeusExMachina4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is. t's about the patients
@philippeboursiquot1633 жыл бұрын
GO TO STUDY AT A FREE UNIVERSITY IN GERMANY, OR USP UNICAMP BRAZIL
@stevendijorio26243 жыл бұрын
Philippe Boursiquot you can’t get an American license in Germany. If I could, trust me, I would.
@FRACP3 жыл бұрын
Not really. You get paid during residency - which is clearly low - but still enough to get by. You shouldn't be doing medicine from money anyway.
@Ahn-mu3db3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to be a surgeon
@CM-oy2kd3 жыл бұрын
This guy is inspiring a lot of people. I’m starting my prequisite courses next week. I’m an EE major and my courses are complicated but I picked up an extra 6 classes to apply for med school
@Marilyncorrales4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Also for anyone who is an aspiring MD and worried about loans, don't be! You can attend an MD school and get scholarships. Certain schools give you free education, like NYMed, or you can qualify for loan repayment programs, or other institution scholarships. I think there is a lot of misconception among minorities especially about doctors taking too much debt but that's changing. Don't give up!
@fallback8314 Жыл бұрын
scholarships lol..........if scholarships were THAT easy to get MOST people in the medical field wouldn't be in debt genius.
@ericmanso73555 жыл бұрын
Study for my MCATs now about to apply for my SMP next fall
@davidlakhter5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video Dr. Webb!
@user-jg2gi4sk7k4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video Dr. Webb! I'd just like to add that NP schools usually require nursing work experience before going into NP schools whereas PAs may not necessarily have any previous healthcare background.
@Amandaaa22444 жыл бұрын
You will not meet a single PA getting into school without healthcare experience
@user-jg2gi4sk7k4 жыл бұрын
Amanda Berg I was making a general comment about numerous PAs whose undergraduate degree may not be necessarily be directly in the healthcare field (e.g. nursing, pre-med). Additionally, when I stated “previous healthcare experience,” I’m talking about experiences such as LPN/CNA/RN/PT/DDS etc. and not scribe/front desk experience. However, when it comes to NPs, it is NOT possible to be one without prior experiences as an RN and without at least a few years of relevant experience. Note once again my comment was general, so if you as an individual had the experiences that I mentioned above, props to you! No hard feelings. There’s so much misunderstanding on what the roles of RNs are. I hope to shed light on the irreplaceable role of RNs as a healthcare team member and not simply as someone who collect I/Os/diaper change. Thanks!
@mattgehm78273 жыл бұрын
@@user-jg2gi4sk7k thats not true anymore, there are direct entry NP programs that require no previous experience
@bellefeu49334 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: Because of the extra 7-11 years (4 college + 4 med + 3-7 residency/fellowship) to become an MD/DO over a simple BSN, in the long run, it will take roughly 20 years for the doc to catch up in gross wealth. This is assuming the BSN prepared nurse works 3-4 shifts per week averaging 80-100k/year (with some OT and call), is frugal, and puts 30% of full salary into a market fund (sp500 + bonds 80/20 for example). Doing this, doctors will 100% make more money per year than a BSN nurse, however, the BSN nurse will have more money than a doc for almost their entire careers. Do what you want to do, and never choose something because something else* seems too far away.
@fbi65554 жыл бұрын
Bellefeu the data on this is iffy but I respect the core values of your message.
@joshb26864 жыл бұрын
Bellefeu around my area nurses make around 50k a year.
@ruthhouston98604 жыл бұрын
I dont know any nurse that makes that much unless they’ve been in the field 25+ years. Excluding like u mentioned having a second job and overtime. Nurses where im at start out at probably mid to high 50k and cap out close to 80k. Most young nurses I know are all in online NP schools.
@benrhodes77254 жыл бұрын
The pay for nurses you posted are extremely optimistic and not realistic for nursing first coming into the field. Also you neglect that physicians get paid in residency and fellowship. A physician will be able to catch up in gross wealth in more like 5 years, not 20. Edit: all that being said, them student loans though...
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
@@ruthhouston9860 my dear you have nurses making more than that... take my word.
@michellerowe-smith58032 ай бұрын
I’m happy you became a doctor too. Black men in medicine are needed. I’m a PA for 21 years and thought about medical school but the passion wasn’t there. I’m also an Army veteran. On plan to retire in 4 years at 55. Medicine has changed and is becoming more challenging.
@sujathakorlam49462 жыл бұрын
I am doing my PA in UK. Your videos are really interesting. Thank u
@akx27435 жыл бұрын
Hi doctor web, I am aspiring to be a surgeon and I am starting to shadow at hospitals. I am super excited 😊
@charlesknight84615 жыл бұрын
How about a crna
@CobraClipsIt5 жыл бұрын
Angel Vollant depends on the hospital
@armandosolis35605 жыл бұрын
FNP's, PA's CRNA's, Midwives are considered mid-level providers.
@charlesknight84615 жыл бұрын
@@armandosolis3560 I thought crna was the leaders in providing anesthesia
@eliasdavidreyes86115 жыл бұрын
@Angel Vollant you can shadow Dr house or Meredith Grey
@SFROutdoors3 жыл бұрын
While it may be a serious reason, saying 'In it for the higher compensation' does not seem adequate for a med school interview answer...
@mikeo.42034 жыл бұрын
Love the whole idea of autonomy honestly one of the reasons I went back to school and left the navy was to not be told what to do for a bit. If I get the grades definitely will be looking into HSPS scholarships for med school. Half way through my bachelors!
@wheelfastracer4 жыл бұрын
There are specialty programs for NPs. I'm currently in an Acute Care DNP program. In most states, we can practice autonomously, but many choose to work as part of a care-team - which includes an MD. Entering medicine later in life (40YO) I was not interested in 12-14 yrs to become an MD. I was more interested in caring for the person and not working against the disease. I did an accelerated BSN program (1Yr) worked 4 years in different ICUs and then applied to the DNP program, which is 3yrs long. The advantage of a DNP is it's a terminal degree. I can move from bedside care to administration w/o having to go back for more formal schooling.
@Geeloveesu4 жыл бұрын
Did you already have an ADN when applying to the accelerated BSN program?
@jcbocean5292 жыл бұрын
How is the program going? i recently discovered a dual AGACNP/FNP program that I’m very interested in. As a AGACNP, can you work in the ICU or ED of a Hospital? Hope all is well! 😊
@HeatherGingerr4 жыл бұрын
i’m in high school and also in a medical magnet school. i’ll be entering college next sure and not sure if i want to go the nursing or doctor route. feeling a little stressed out with this. God help me!
@mikegil78194 жыл бұрын
Medical Doctor is the best decision, PA's and NP's have limitations. Doctors can work some years in hospitals and after they can open their own clinics. NP's and PA's can't do it. They need to work under the supervision of a doctor.
@ryanjohnson28444 жыл бұрын
Try your best for Doctor if u don’t make it then become a nurse
@thewindgamer26074 жыл бұрын
Same!
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
@@mikegil7819 actually dear NPs can work independently in may states and eventually it will be all states please be knowledgeable before spreading wrong info thanks.
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
@@ryanjohnson2844 nursing is not a fall back profession it's a calling. Do you want a nurse who doesn't love what they do??? No do you want a nurse with no patience and compassion no!! Remember doctors don't stay with patient's 24/7 nurses are with the patients 24/7.
@Shameless_Papist5 жыл бұрын
I'm 13 and An icu doctor told me since I wanted to go in Healthcare I should be an PA it sounds interesting and Very good I will try it if surgery dosen't go good for me
@andrewposner67037 ай бұрын
This video is awesome. I really wish that you or somebody else would do this from the patient perspective. How should a patient know when they should see a PA versus a doctor? I know people say that when it’s more complicated that you want the doctor, and of course, this is assuming that both providers are excellent providers. I am well aware that there are PAs that are better than some doctors, but this question is more if you should insist on the excellent doctor when maybe you can get in sooner to see the excellent PA or leave that appointment with the doctor for somebody who needs it more than you.
@scarred106 ай бұрын
Theres no way a PA is goi g to be near as competent as a doctor,the difference in education,training a d breath of experience is huge in favour of the doctor,and I am a PA.
@kyleytrimm72772 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome insight!
@antoniowebbmd2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyley!
@cheerios456c2 жыл бұрын
You definitely do have to answer to your supervising physician but they don't sign off on all your notes and prescriptions. Supervision specifications vary by state but it's only a limited number of charts they have to review in sign. A lot of PA's work very closely with their supervising doc when they start out to so the level of supervision can change over time as well. When I have my own clinics I'm working totally independently with the doc available if I have something usual pop up. When I'm assisting with their clinic it depends on the doc, some will still see the patient, others will not (so can still be fairly independent). You have to get to a point where you know how each doc thinks/practices and so that they trust you judgment first though. Also most surgical PA's/NP's I know do take call and weekend rounding. At least in my area this was the case. Always a doc on backup though for surgical emergencies.
@matronarona4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, as a nurse (RN), the rise in NPs is scary because of how their education and schooling is not regulated. I've seen RNs get straight into NP school after graduating, some with minimal experience, etc. It is not safe, especially since some have autonomy. I would never get into NP school if I want to prescribe meds, diagnose, etc because I feel that I will be not only putting patients in danger but also myself. 2 years is not enough, some only offer online schooling. I don't understand how you can learn alot in those 2 years... It's just not safe. Although the pay is attractive and the time to be allowed to practice is amazing, but is it really worth it? So risky. There is a reason why it takes a while to be a doctor and having doctors in my family, I know my nursing experience cannot be compared to their experience and vice versa. A dietician's experience is different to a physiotherapist's... even an assistant nurse's experience is different to a registered nurse's.
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
PA school is only two years and they are more than qualified, so I'm not understanding the logic here. To get into NP school you generally have to have a BSN (although there are direct entry programs for non-RNs). By the time someone graduates with an MSN, they've undergone 6 years worth of training. Online programs require in-person clinicals; only the didactic portion is online. Most NPs that I know, work(ed) while doing their MSN, so they're gaining even more experience.
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyallen8094 well said
@marshallguy3013 жыл бұрын
This is fundamentally untrue. Any accredited program is very highly regulated. NPs are also scheduled to go to a doctorate-level requirement by 2025 for all new NPs.
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
@@marshallguy301 I believe PAs are on the same track, but idk the time frame. It’s my plan to do a doctorate anyways though
@Jayjay-3113 жыл бұрын
So Tell is what experience PA’s have when they apply to their program. I’ll tell you. A bachelors in any degree. Your logic makes no sense. By your logic, no one is qualified to take care of patients
@rntomd78394 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Love the advice
@cervixnavigator3 жыл бұрын
One of the last honest voices in healthcare.
@rufusgoldstein2655 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are pros & cons to all three professions , you just have to decide what appeals to you
@yourfuturedocburenbeiya4 жыл бұрын
Hi Doc, when applying to medschool and if this question gets asked why medicine and not NP or PA, would it be appropriate to respond with that kind of answer like you mentioned comparing length, autonomy, etc.? In my opinion, it seems difficult to answer in a way that doesn’t sound as humble or altruistic... And that’s so awesome that you were prior military and have applied for the PA Program in the military, because my journey sounds similar except I’m still a premed all these years lol. I am even more inspired and I respect that you came from that background!! Thank you for sharing your journey, Doc!!!
@rthurmond19954 жыл бұрын
I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life after high school. I had no guidance and 1st gen college student. Life happened, ups and downs I ended up dropping out. I decided at 25 that I wanted to become a doctor. I talked myself out of it. Was able to finish my BA in Biology at 28. 4.0 GPA. I was discouraged about my age convincing myself that I wanted to be a mother and that it would be impossible especially during residency being almost 40 by the time I finished. I went to PA school and the rest is history. I wish at 18 I had my mind made up with what I wanted with my life at the time. Hell at 18 I was still raising my hand to go to the restroom.
@nathalyaquino54534 жыл бұрын
I just want to let you know you were not alone! Although I got my BS at 21, I didn't know what I wanted to do and went into working into food safety. Now at 26 I want to be a GI doc. My plan is get my prerequisites and apply by the age of 30. Never to late! I considered PA but after talking to some admissions officers they let me know I was still young for med school and with my work experience it will greatly help. I also know friends who have families and are going through residency :)
@marlintill55995 жыл бұрын
Dr. Webb, thank you for this video! Just to let you know NPs can either obtain a Doctor of Nursing Practice or a Ph.D not a Doctor of Nurse Practitioner
@marlintill55995 жыл бұрын
Also NPs can practice independently in some US states however the PA cannot
@mattgehm78273 жыл бұрын
But that doesnt supply any additional clinical education past a typical MSN
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
I chose the PA route for several reasons, but mainly because I have a number of specialties I want to experience. MD doesn't allow that type of flexibility. Also, I've had some MDs encourage the PA route due to be able to practice without the hassle of managerial tasks
@MDForTheCulture3 жыл бұрын
I wish PA's can practice anesthesia.
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
@@MDForTheCulture They can!
@MDForTheCulture3 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyallen8094 Reaaly?
@ashleyallen80943 жыл бұрын
@@MDForTheCulture PAs can practice in nearly any field possible!
@MDForTheCulture3 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyallen8094 I’m aware of that I’m just wondering if their is a special certification and training that you would have to obtain?
@queendoss81183 жыл бұрын
Videos are amazing like having a video MENTOR I am in the medical field and decided to progress more in the field 👨🍳👩🍳🧐🤓💯🎯
@JamesGoyard285 жыл бұрын
Dr Webb NPs cant switch specialties that easily. Only PAs can change without much issue. A NP can do family or acute care. Within family you can specialize in pediatrics, internal medicine, or geriatrics. Acute care is more the ER Side of the fence
@Jattmafia3134 жыл бұрын
My neurologist has a np on staff
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
Wrong info
@obscurelyvague3 жыл бұрын
I'm just trying to become a phlebotomist. The bureaucratic hurdles are very forbidding
@daddy3484 Жыл бұрын
Don’t do phlebotomist just get an MA cert. You can do it all under a physician everything from blood draws to injections.
@obscurelyvague Жыл бұрын
@@daddy3484 I already have a Phlebotomist certificate but in NY it hardly means anything. I studied in a school that only provided training on a dummy arm. A lot of facilities that hire phlebotomists want you to have done at least 180 live needle sticks ( on real people). It is a standard. Of course in other states it can be different. Like I said, the bureaucratic hurdles are forbidding.
@beachbum15233 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the brain power to be a doctor, a PA, or an NP. I suffered pretty serious brain damage as a child. But being an MD, and particularly a surgeon means super-long hours. That wouldn't be for me.
@radiance2mussington2172 жыл бұрын
yhhh
@alfe14022 жыл бұрын
Maybe the best path is to be RN and then go to Med school, because unexpected things happen in life and you will have a base to start again.
@RS-ip8gw4 жыл бұрын
MD!!! if it's what you truly want. If not, don't dare. If you just want the white coat, seeing patients and having that "Doctor" feel -- NP/PA is better. MD is lifetime suffering if not for the right reason.
@notsoepicgamer54203 жыл бұрын
Well said. It pains me to see so many people go the MD route for the “clout” or for the bragging rights
@burneymaha923 жыл бұрын
Lifetime suffering? If you only want to half ass patient care and be limited in your care and knowledge then don’t go MD or DO.
@samg84523 жыл бұрын
I chose pa for work life balance
@rohseans5 жыл бұрын
The degree is Doctor of Nursing Practice. Not Doctor of nurse practitioner. And as a DNP provider I do not answer to an MD at any time. Just wanna make sure every one is getting the correct information.
@hopaomran62645 жыл бұрын
So DNP is not a different of MD.. Who have final decision..
@AllPro7775 жыл бұрын
@@hopaomran6264 It's very different. An NP is not as skilled or educated in Medicine as an MD. No way.
@hopaomran62645 жыл бұрын
@@AllPro777 which is better.?
@AllPro7775 жыл бұрын
@@hopaomran6264 As far as salary, prestige, and autonomy, the MD is best but much harder to obtain.
@hopaomran62645 жыл бұрын
@@AllPro777 I'm a nurse in Egypt can I continue my studies in USA as a medical doctor.. If u don't mind contact with me on Facebook or what's app
@cathy92792 жыл бұрын
10 years ago PA school denied me saying “I can only see you as an MD. 40 post bacc credits paid in cash at $40,000 and now at age 53 FU I’m going to be a MD
@zen_mindset1 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome 😎
@christophertaylor66935 жыл бұрын
Can you speak on your time in the military, more specifically how you felt about the time it took to get where you are and your age. I’m currently 31 I did 10 years in the navy and I’m currently scheduled to get my associates In in two months I am choosing the RN route because I want to be a SRNA/ CRNA but I still feel uncomfortable about the age gap between myself and my classmates if not for the uncomfortableness I think I would try to for a MD did you experience anything like that what was the average age in your medical classes
@burnsyodice30495 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt worry about it do what you want to do. Doctor webb is at least 37 maybe 38.
@TS-yn9ey5 жыл бұрын
Age should never be a factor in your decision to do anything in life. As long as you have the drive and determination, anything is possible.
@lovefunkrockmusic4 жыл бұрын
31 is not old dude. KZfaq Uncle Mike MD and not the popular Mike MD but Uncle Mike. He was a nurse for 16 years and dropped out of CRNA and finished MD school he was in his forties
@ronbrooks65472 жыл бұрын
As a African American Male, do you think I will be respected as a PA or should I just go to Medical School? I'm leaning towards a PA because I would only need 2 more years of School which means less Student loan. Another Option I'm looking into is Optometrist.
@daddy3484 Жыл бұрын
Minority PAs are in high demand fyi. You just need to find the right supervising physician. They will see you as a huge asset as PAs bring in more revenue than they take home. Don’t ever sell yourself short if you become a PA however.
@ronbrooks6547 Жыл бұрын
@@daddy3484 thanks
@kiamhong3903 жыл бұрын
I think NPs need formal education or certifications to switch specialties. I don't think NPs can assist in surgery but PAs can. Please correct me if I am wrong
@Mimiscellaneous3 жыл бұрын
You’re right! NPs need extra education in order to switch specialties. As far as surgical assistance I think PAs are usually preferred; but NPs can also specialize in Acute Care and Emergency Medicine - so those ones may help with small procedures. Maybe in the future there will be a surgical specialization.
@anthonymarquez64934 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of an np making more than an MD
@anthonymarquez64934 жыл бұрын
@Jswirv I know that. I just didn't think they could make more
@anthonymarquez64934 жыл бұрын
@Jswirv no I was just surprised I am an rn right now and want to become an MD
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymarquez6493 do your independent research dear yes some do.
@ragazziita5 жыл бұрын
Please talk about the AA profession. A lot of people are unaware it even exists.
@HRU-ou3vi5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Webb, you are my "IDOL" but I have to CORRECT you as a member of the nursing profession. NP's cannot move laterally and have to specialize within a certain area of practice. And they specialize by "population" such a women health, mental health, pediatrics, acute care, etc. Therefore, if an NP wants to change specialties, they have to go back to school and get the training. It is not as extensive as the medical route but they cannot move laterally like a PA. At the moment, the DNP is optional but by 2025 all entering CRNA's will have to attain a DNP in order to practice or sit for boards and the nursing profession is moving in this direction. Over 23 states now allow NP's to practice independently of physicians and the vast majority of the other 27 states allow for collaborative agreements. Supervision of NP's is less likely when compared to a PA. It all depends on the location and I hope this help and is not offensive.
@armandosolis35605 жыл бұрын
Not in Texas
@HRU-ou3vi5 жыл бұрын
@@armandosolis3560 please read my comment; it is very clear. I know Texas is not an independent state but there is a push there
@armandosolis35605 жыл бұрын
@@HRU-ou3vi I read your comment clearly. I was just mentioning in my state of Texas, you can move laterally to different areas of disciplines without the training you aforementioned. I think it all boils down to $$$$$.
@HRU-ou3vi5 жыл бұрын
@@armandosolis3560 for NP's? I have to look that up because the only NP's to have the possibility of lateral movement are FNP's. Thank you for the update.
@jjjohnson57715 жыл бұрын
@HRU. Why did u choose NP over PA? I'm an RN, Ive already realized floor nursing is not for me. Pretty soon I will be faced with this dilemma.
@zen_mindset1 Жыл бұрын
I'm a future PA who wants to specialize in emergency medicine or anesthesiology.
@royjohnson90435 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice.
@unbrokencircle32945 жыл бұрын
If you were in the military trying for military medical programs did you think about the uniformed medical school?
@aajoe37235 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Dr. Webb!! I’ve been an LPN for 8 years and I am finally graduating with my RN in 21 days !! I’m 32 now do you think it’s to late to start the medical school route ? I likely have another year and a half of pre reqs.. thanks for all your videos !!
@SagaciousSix5 жыл бұрын
Check out Flight Nurse MD KZfaq channel. He was a nurse and started med school at the age of 39. He has lots of great content for nurses thinking about med school.
@aajoe37235 жыл бұрын
JediSiouxsie cool I’ll do that, thank you !
@thewindgamer26074 жыл бұрын
Hey this is late but you can check this video by Doctor Mike kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pM2IapuWmLrKlXk.html
@leslief25423 жыл бұрын
you can still apply to medical school,
@sweetrose194 жыл бұрын
As a EMT, I always loved shadowing a MD or PA when I worked in the hospitals. NP were always annoying or had bad attitudes. I have yet to met a nurse who loved being a NP, besides Nurse Anesthetist
@talesfromtheroad95302 жыл бұрын
This may sound like a silly question, but if anyone has advice I would love to hear it. I wanted to be a midwife when I was 17 but followed different twists and turns. I also wanted to become a doctor because I'm fascinated with the depth of knowledge and the leadership role. . . but I didn't want (as some other females mentioned on here) to derail having a family in the near future or become a mom while in residency. I'm 33 and now in an accelerated bachelor's program for nursing. I plan on applying to grad school for a dual degree, becoming a family NP and midwife. I'm halfway through my BSN program and wishing I was learning things that excite me more, like more pathology and medical diagnoses. Half of me still wishes I went to medical school, or went the PA route because it's modeled on the medical school model. I'm still going to stick with my NP plan. . . but to become a really good future general practitioner, will I need to study a lot on my own? Will I always have gaps and 1000x less knowledge because I didn't go a more rigorous route like med school?
@mustang82062 жыл бұрын
Not really. Nurses still learn a lot especially nps and you will have to learn on your own but so do doctors
@talesfromtheroad95302 жыл бұрын
@@mustang8206 Okay, thanks, this is reassuring :)
@Gamebreaker083 жыл бұрын
Got my bachelors in chemistry. Honestly I've aways wanted to be an MD but I know my grades will prevent me from getting into any school. I've decided to do the next best thing in my opinion and that is go to nursing school with the ultimate goal of becoming a CRNA.
@imteazmanassra71534 жыл бұрын
ive always wanted to be a pediatrician but i didn't realize how hard it is too get into medical school then i thought of being a NP but i wanna be a pediatrician but im scared of failer and being in dept.
@bladebranson43123 жыл бұрын
Stop being scared
@zainaamer5859 Жыл бұрын
you can do it!
@anthonyv.99792 жыл бұрын
Is it true that MD’s don’t have time for family and life in general? I heard horror stories that MD’s don’t have a “balanced” work&family lifestyle as opposed to NPs who are more of a “9-5” type of job
@davidsanchez5865 жыл бұрын
Hello Doctor Webb, I’m a 20 year old Community college student, I am gonna go for the ADN program that my community college has, then I’ll do a ADN to BSN program, then become a Registered Nurse, but lately I been thinking about Becoming a PA, is been on my mind a lot lately. What would you say to someone in my situation?
@TS-yn9ey5 жыл бұрын
David Sanchez ADN to BSN is a great choice because ADN programs are more clinically focused. You will be a well rounded RN if you get your BSN as well. I’m graduating next month with my BSN. I did ADN to BSN. If you want to be a PA after, go for it!!
@jjjohnson57715 жыл бұрын
David, I'm an Rn. I did the community college route you described. I am currently considering the PA route, it will give me more autonomy and work closer with doctors. I think u should reconsider all your options, maybe in the end you will be happier doing something other than nursing.
@davidsanchez5865 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys, this gave me more confidence in my choice
@anon_sls61064 жыл бұрын
Same. My advice is SHADOW!
@cs97424 жыл бұрын
Why I became an NP. Just cuz it’s what I did
@mariaGreenDay4ever Жыл бұрын
I dont mean to be mean I generally have aquestion What I dont understand is how a PA can diagnose ,make decisions and treat a patient why half the years of university and no residency. It seems to me that it is a short cut for becoming a doctor and I am all for it!
@listrann4 жыл бұрын
i actually learned a lot!!
@angeljaynie5 жыл бұрын
Truthfully, I want to become a MD. I'm 19 and I have a 3 month old daughter, I want to show her women can accomplish anything and I want my boyfriend to become his dream as well but I don't want to be in a situation for how many years not having an income for my daughter. Relying on my boyfriend that whole time. I do know in the long run it will be worth it. I would have a hard time becoming PA or NP and thinking that could be me, the MD. Does anyone have tips in my situation or ideas?
@adaezenjoku75275 жыл бұрын
If it's what you want, there's no better time to start then now. You got this! Make sure you keep up the grades with those pre requisites and find as many shadowing opportunities as possible. It will be hard while having a child but you can do it. My mom had me and my brother during med school and took care of us throughout residency. She's a doctor now. If you believe you can do it, then you can.
@niccolomachiavell5 жыл бұрын
I want to be a physician because I believe part of being black is society's expectation that we cannot reach the top. I do not want to conform to society's messed up standards of my race so while being a PA or NP might be easier, I will push myself to go MD.
@tplayer34085 жыл бұрын
@Jose Haro i agree. black people always trying to make everything about race; jesus christ. They need to get over their inferiority complex already. No one in america is thinking about african americans besides other african americans
@TheDrunkHamster5 жыл бұрын
Pfff, if anything, being black makes things easier. Spare us, please
@niccolomachiavell5 жыл бұрын
@@tplayer3408 what are you even doing on this channel if you hate blacks this much?
@niccolomachiavell5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrunkHamster what are you even doing on this channel if you hate blacks this much?
@niccolomachiavell5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrunkHamster Also before you harp on blacks feel free to share your MCAT score and your GPA
@davonmcdaniel78474 жыл бұрын
I’m 37 and I’ve been a nursing assistant for 18 years. I work in the ICU at a Hospital. I’ve always wanted to be Doctor that works in Internal medicine. But I’m just wondering am I to old now to go to medical school? If so I was just going to go for RN even though that’s not what I really want to do.
@antoniowebbmd4 жыл бұрын
No, check out this video here 47 Year Old Mechanic Becomes a Doctor | NEVER too Old! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9-EqteAzsXbpHk.html
@vishnur59643 жыл бұрын
Don't compare each of these profession they are unique in their own way.
@samueljimenez77924 жыл бұрын
hey man, question. I will be about 42 when I would finish residency if everything goes well with school etc. Is that too old or should I not do MD school. I would have loans and all that.
@gabrielelias66084 жыл бұрын
Samuel Jimenez you’re gonna be 42 at some point, regardless of med school. Man, it’s never too late. Chase that dream
@lovefunkrockmusic4 жыл бұрын
Not old at all. Another KZfaqr uncle MD started medical school around your age
@leslief25423 жыл бұрын
many people are much older when they finish medical school and residency. your going to be that age anyways.
@Noa-vc2ew4 жыл бұрын
I know you compared the length of schooling between the different careers but do you think you could speak to the difference in intensity? For example, we know med school is longer but how much more rigorous is the studying than PA or NP schooling?
@dking9864 жыл бұрын
I've been looking into it. The depth and intensity of medical school is far more than NP. PA school would probably be the closest to MD/DO intensity. Some people get their NP through online courses and it's fairly easy to get into an NP program by comparison than Medical school if that helps give you some perspective.
@mattgehm78273 жыл бұрын
I'll put it like this, one semester of medical where I go is nearly 45 credits, some NP programs are 36 credits in total
@RockSimmer-gal4God3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the differentences. Sorry I can’t spell
@Ahn-mu3db3 жыл бұрын
*Differences :p
@bethrowland3724 Жыл бұрын
I Love the look
@erinjk1235 жыл бұрын
Need med school to be a surgeon.
@arlinenivens997 Жыл бұрын
I’m an MD and there are no substitute
@jacquelineclark97834 жыл бұрын
Sorry, what do you mean by not having to take call for NP/PA’s?
@user-fj3ng8mz7w4 жыл бұрын
He means that NP/PA’s won’t be called into work at ungodly hours. For example, a doctor could be called in at 11pm even though their shift is over. NP/PA’s usually don’t get called in and if they do it’s not as often or at a high extent (no being called in at 4am or something).
@leylanazarova59084 жыл бұрын
Hi. I am 30 years old mom of 3 kids. How you think is it to late to become MD? I am going to clip program now.
@ddfelder24 жыл бұрын
Leyla Nazarova never too late! You’re still young. Just make sure you have the support and stay persistent. Don’t . Give. Up.
@lovefunkrockmusic4 жыл бұрын
Not late at all.
@abigailmatos9344 жыл бұрын
A NP can not switch to other specialties like you say. The NP programs are now divided by subspecialties. An Adult care nurse practitioner cannot see pediatrics or women's health. a nurse practitioner is not supervised by a physician - the physician is a collaborator - He does not have to countersign her prescription. The PA needs to be supervised and have prescription countersigned. Get your facts straight. Things have changed.
@antoniowebbmd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying 👍🏾
@ladyjluvly4u2 жыл бұрын
Why do you all have to speak to others with such a nasty tone... it’s kind of ridiculous. You can educate others without being condescending or snarky. It’s cringey asf.
@parhamray48435 жыл бұрын
Who is the best person to get a letter of recommendation from? eg; teacher, collage president and etc.
@DivineSeaDragon5 жыл бұрын
Parham Ray I have the same question
@jasonvoorhees88995 жыл бұрын
Right
@kuhataparunks5 жыл бұрын
Definitely more valuable if they have a “doctor” credential like Ph. D
@jensenlawrence4125 жыл бұрын
You need 3 letters from professors, and you it definitely helps to get other letters from work supervisors, PI’s in your research lab, or any doctors you have worked with
@parhamray48435 жыл бұрын
@@jensenlawrence412 thanks
@Shameless_Papist5 жыл бұрын
Also I go to a healthscience and engineering magnet school also its 6-12 grade
@robinsonodhiambo40073 жыл бұрын
Hello Can A PA do Neuromedicine as a speciality please.
@destinyscroggs9291 Жыл бұрын
Baam :) attractive work you have here
@Shameless_Papist4 жыл бұрын
I go to An Magnet program that offers Healthscience and Engineering!
@antoniowebbmd4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@TrevonGreen2 жыл бұрын
So…what I’m hearing is autonomy and salary? For NPs Salary can be countered by working a PRN job or taking a travel assignment as an RN since it’s so flexible. The autonomy depends on the specialty like you mentioned. Surgery being the most physician heavy but many other specialties it’s more teamwork than hierarchy at the provider level.
@TrevonGreen2 жыл бұрын
Just summarizing not debating 🙏🏽
@DynamicDuo373 Жыл бұрын
The thing about PA that I like the most is how you can choose to work in any specialty whenever you want without having to go back to school, can’t do that as an NP or MD from what I understand.
@footdrop75125 жыл бұрын
hello Dr webb. you are awesome. can u please talk about women in surgery. can u encourage women.
@medflix99935 жыл бұрын
Hey Im not Dr Webb, I'm just a rookie med student but you should know there's a surprising amount of women here in med school and teaching. They are still probably underrepresented among the older generations of doctors but that seems to be changing really fast.