Why I don't believe in the adamic sin nature? W/ William P Young

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The Bro. Henry and You Show

The Bro. Henry and You Show

8 ай бұрын

I had an interesting conversation with William P Young (Author of the Shack) about the adamic sin nature. The adamic sin nature is a popular theology that proclaims, you're inherently evil, you're no good, lost, depraved, and because we were born of Adam, we as a human race inherited a sin nature. This is also known as the original sin. William P Young says, "He doesn't believe in the adamic sin nature. Why? I loved his approach, and if you watch with an open mind, you will too.
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@stephenm.shattuck8424
@stephenm.shattuck8424 Ай бұрын
Once again W. Paul Young you have shaken up my snow globe of who I once thought I was to help me understand who I really because of my Abba Father's Love for me Thanks again Stephen
@mikefranliv
@mikefranliv 3 ай бұрын
I was first introduced to this by Winkey Pratney in a YWAM manual. I was fortunate to receive an answer to my prayerful response, “Lord I would love to meet Winkey to discuss this. Imagine my surprise later that summer 1976 I met him near (5 miles away) my home town in another town Milford Haven. He told me he got the idea from Roger Forster who I had just invited to evangelise with us in my University in Swansea. I later joined Rogers home church Ichthus. Ten wonderful years followed under his ministry. Sadly Roger passed away this year. He was a huge influence in my life. This message from Paul completes a circle of influence for me as Paul’s book and ministry has been seismic also in my life.
@Jon-bk2yw
@Jon-bk2yw 8 күн бұрын
Thank you brother Henry and brother William
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@virginiadayton8766
@virginiadayton8766 5 ай бұрын
Soooo lovely ❤❤❤
@Clicks-Prosper
@Clicks-Prosper 8 ай бұрын
His book was given to me when I lived out of town with a friend. A couple years later he wrote a song that ended up being on the soundtrack for the movie. This book put itself into my life 😁.
@courtneybrubaker9738
@courtneybrubaker9738 6 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@stevehorn5901
@stevehorn5901 8 ай бұрын
Amazing ….. John 5:39-41 Let him who has ears hear the Logos in the Churches. Otherwise remove the dust from your feet and keep walking, there’s alot to do without wasting words.
@johntwemlow6089
@johntwemlow6089 5 ай бұрын
Brother Henry, would you please clarify this for me. Paul begins by referring to Adam turning his face away from God BEFORE the encounter with the serpent. Where is this found in the scriptures? And secondly if Adam did not fall, what is Romans 5:12-21 and 1 Cor 15:21-22 talking about? I appreciate your response.
@wilfredmancy
@wilfredmancy 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Adam didn't fall from his status but didn't act in/from his status. Maybe our status of created in the image or to be the image bearers of God hasn't changed, maybe it is the relationship that changed, not our status or reason for being. The Fall is a term humans created to describe an event, the event of Adams sin/death and the subsequent change in the relationship. The question then is why did Adam sin? Paul seems to be arguing that it was because Adam thought he was insufficient and didn't rely on his union with God to make him sufficient or pronounce him sufficient or had already made him sufficient.
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 Ай бұрын
Here we go brother, when we are saved our soul gets saved not our flesh, our flesh still wants and desires things that can be sinful. Notice Eve had these desires BEFORE she sinned. God puts desires into everyone including Adam and Eve.but they sinned. So death passed to all people. We die physically because of Adam. There is no sin nature handed down through Adam. Just physical death. We give in to fleshly desires. ( niv is only Bible that says sin nature) they got busted for false translation. Newer niv put back the word flesh. Greek word sarks . If we sin because of a sin nature? Then why did Adam and Eve sin? Because it doesn’t exist. It’s fleshly desires.when we sin, we become seperated from GOD. Thus need to born again. Spiritual death isn’t literal. If your spirit was actually dead? You would be dead also. ( also spiritual death is not in entire Bible. ) it real means a seperate ion has occurred between a person and the LORD.
@readMEinkbooks
@readMEinkbooks 2 ай бұрын
4:44 Eve was first called Isa - what's the Biblical reference for this?
@peachnehi7340
@peachnehi7340 4 ай бұрын
dopamine problem
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 Ай бұрын
We are not good or evil. Babies are born innocent. Then when we hit age of accountability, we sin, and that sin is imputed to our account and held against us. He said we’re good? That’s a lie. Because Jesus himself said nobody is good.
@j-life8502
@j-life8502 13 күн бұрын
Right over your head! Show me the Bible verse that says what the age of accountability is. Oops that's right DOESNT EXIST. your definitely an American . RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD. nothing you said is scripture.
@j-life8502
@j-life8502 13 күн бұрын
You sound incredibly hopeless. Yes Jesus said who is good ? No one but God! What he didn't say is all are depraved and stuck in Adam. All in Adam , now all in Christ. He is explaining why he came genius! CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 13 күн бұрын
@@j-life8502 all in Christ? No. That’s error.
@emilesturt3377
@emilesturt3377 4 ай бұрын
Sin is an abstraction. It is a privation of the good. It has no being / substance. Sin is demonically inspired and energised thoughts and actions that WE - as PERSONS - entertain and commit. So when God "hates sin or the sinful / wicked" in the word, His dissatisfaction is towards people - both individual and corporate - not merely an abstraction: which is also why the Father was not hating or pouring wrath out upon the Son on the cross; for then the Father would have to be pretending to be angry at the Son Who had not sinned. No, God was receiving and absorbing all the injustice and hatred and disease of our race in order to provide the way out within Himself: to heal us and to rightfully disarm the enemy. But God's judgement / penalty of sin, the "wages" of it, is death (both passively consequential and purposefully ordained due to a very real displeasure that God "feels" towards evil - both demonic and human) We ascribe love and compassion to the Deity, so why struggle to accept wrath or hate / anger as having at least some correlation with what we understand by those words: the words that the Spirit Himself inspired) Yes wrath party denotes "mortality" and the effect of His Presence upon the ignorant soul; but His wrath is to be revealed "against the godlessness and wickedness of men"... and so Christ, by entering into the place of condemnation and death in order to destroy it, becomes the Ark of our salvation: Salvation Himself, that we might escape the real wrath to come... where we might "go down with the demonic ship" so to speak. Punishment is a reality; that's why it is "the chastisement / punishment that was upon Him, that bought us peace". This doesn't mean (as it often does in the West) that God the Father is pouring wrath out upon the Son. No, again, His human soul was separated from his human body.: He "tasted death". This, along with His loving, yet torturous identification with us and the sense of abandonment, was the punishment... but all within the union of that human soul and a human body with the Divine Word. Christ takes on the penalty of our collective death - as He Who had assumed and deified our nature - in order to raise it up within Himself... in order to heal that which is predisposed to sin and death. But our personal salvation / adoption / regeneration is not merely "realised" and "perceived", because, as Christ the Word did not assume a human person - but a human nature - we as persons who actualise nature are "potentially" recipients of that which He restored within Himself. This means that we (the Church) were "chosen in Him before the foundation of the world". Of course We were all in His Mind upon the tree: you and me (unless Open Theism is true and you are only truly known from conception alone) but anyhow, we were not all "actually" saved as individuals then and there. He, as the Second Adam, made the Way for us, having purchased full redemption before the Father, before Reality. But we "believe" and "receive" (John 1) as individual persons; we actualize that restored nature... "and if any man has not the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ"... "and He breathed on them, and said, "receive the Holy Spirit" As unique Hypostasis - we come into that Triune Life... "Partakers of the Divine nature" (the risen humanity in the God- Man in the Spirit)... or not. For in the Greek Fathers, and in the Christology, Anthropology and Soteriology of the Ecumenical Councils of the first millennium, there is a clear, subtle, yet real and vital distinction between nature and person; and also a real freedom and synergy that is maintained: therefore, both Augustinian determinism and universalism are seen as two sides of the same erroneous coin) Grace and Peace X
@opengates777
@opengates777 8 ай бұрын
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils! 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. Phl 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. Phl 3:18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Phl 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Universalism is the biggest lie manufactured by the Devil!God gives people a clear choice to accept the offer of salvation or face annihilation! These verses mean that there will be very serious consequences, that's if people don't take the offer of salvation! V Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.Mar 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. Mar 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?Mar 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?Mar 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. 1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.1Th 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.1Th 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire. 1Pe 4:14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 1Pe 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. 1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
@Clicks-Prosper
@Clicks-Prosper 8 ай бұрын
This is called "proof texting" and everyone you curse with it has already heard it. Proof texting is used for mind control. Every denomination uses these same scriptures against each other, but forget that there are Imprecatory Psalms used specifically in support of those who are criticized for their spiritual values. I pray those prayers 🙏🏾🙌 regularly!
@capitalisa
@capitalisa 8 ай бұрын
I don't take kindly to being threatened, even by a bully god. Men wrote those words. Nothing more, nothing less. I hope you can one day break out of the fear and recognize your worth.
@opengates777
@opengates777 8 ай бұрын
​​@@capitalisa I just don't care what you say, don't waist your time. God is no muppet, God interacts with his people! V 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
@opengates777
@opengates777 8 ай бұрын
​@@capitalisaYou are Atheist the scriptures was not for you but for brother Henry!
@opengates777
@opengates777 8 ай бұрын
​@@Clicks-Prosper2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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