I don't buy bootleg Blu-ray's anyway because I heard that they're corrupted anyway I buy bootleg DVD's because they work better. Love your vids man!

Sheesh didn't know this existed I like your motive but I'm gonna start buy now

Spoke very well!

Exactly. Truthful I hate bootlegs, but if the studios won't release a certain title, I'm not going to go without it if I want it bad enough. As soon as the studios actually release an official version, I'll happily trow the bootleg away and buy the real deal. There is already an example of this. I bought a bootleg for what would be DuckTales: Volume 4 a little over a decade ago. I actually really hated that release, but Disney at the time seemed unlikely to finish the show on DVD. About 7 years later, they finally released an official version and I happily bought it.

exactly i was gona say what does supporting the project have to do with buying a bootleg that was some grandstanding there

Exactly!

Very well Said

Well said . I agree 100%

Methinks you doth protest too much

Fully agree and support this 100% as someone who works in the films industry myself!

You’re totally fine then. This video isn’t about you. You’ve supported the filmmakers three times over. It’s more for the people who won’t subscribe to Disney+ and then buy a bootleg. They hurt the industry.

@@JeffRauseo I truly hope some of the studio people see this video and the conversations. They need to see how important physical media is to many of us. And that because they are failing to provide and fill the need for many movies, that bootleggers are doing better than ever. Perhaps some of them might rethink not releasing all of these streaming “exclusives” on physical media. They need to see how devoted this community is. And more importantly, they need to know nearly ALL of us who buy bootlegs occasionally will ALWAYS pick the official releases over bootleg. If they just give them to us on disc!!!

The multi-billion dollar studios have actually tried to find ways to make all of those used copies illegal to buy through the decades. They saw streaming as their godsend that they could eliminate physical media, eliminate used copies, and lock audiences into perpetual payments for life. Artists and creatives have actually supported piracy and bootlegs at various times through the years in opposition to the corporations.

Took the words out of my mouth. Well reasoned and an argument brought up by media companies lately. Always wanting more. After all, why should anyone own what they've paid for and then be able to resell it without some uninvolved party also profiting? I'd also point out that Disney doesn't have all that much spare change laying around anymore since they've made so many staggeringly profitable business decisions in recent years. Down to around 200 million and facing not only layoffs but the possibility of selling off IPs.

But if it does become available and you already bought the bootleg will you buy the official release?

@@JeffRauseo valid point. Typically yes. For instance, I just purchased the 4K of Dragonslayer which upgrades an HD rip that I had previously obtained. Certainly not the only example but the quickest to come to mine. Typically official also means an upgrade so I mean that seems like a no-brainer but I understand that there are situations where that may not be the case in which case I guess it would matter if I ever wanted to watch the movie again. People won't pay for what they don't want so when it comes to films I feel like they should get the physical media out there quickly before people can decide against purchasing a film. Give me a reason to buy it now while the hype is there. For what it's worth I would purchase prey and I would be happy to purchase Barbarian as well.

​@@JeffRauseoyes, I'd buy the official release if it was available.

@@JeffRauseo with the size of my collection, the answer is basically always an emphatic YES! I have double, triple and quadruple dipped on films in the past! On the different medias. And I always prefer an official release. So they ultimately always get my money anyway. 🤷‍♂️

​@@JeffRauseo people that collect will always upgrade to the better quality and official version...

Fully agree!

I own the 90s animated Spider-Man this way for years before Disney+ I couldn't even watch it all without it.

I'll buy a bootleg of Imax Infinity War as I'm not going to subscribe to Disney+ the rest of my life just to watch that movie and a few others every so often. I'd prefer to own like like I do the regular theatrical version.

You hit the nail on the head; no studios are making DVDs anymore! I had to spend $256 for the entire series of Squidbillies on DVD because Adult Swim stopped making DVDs over ten years ago for the show.

@@Charles_Anthony My favorite is Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I own most of the DVD's, though I kind of stopped buying them are the later seasons aren't all that great. It's the first 6 or so seasons are the best. Season 4 is probably my favorite. Too bad they decided to keep changing the name of the show, and I think people just didn't know it was on. As my DVR didn't know to record it as every season it was like a brand new show and I started missing episodes. I bet viewership declined because of the name changes which probably ended up getting it cancelled. I also own the DVD's for Sealab 2021. Though the later season isn't as good as the main character actor died. I really need to rewatch that series as it's been about 10 years. I also like Code Monkey's. I have the first season on DVD, though I don't think they ever put the 2nd season on DVD. I see some people selling blu-rays of the show. Though at least I guess they eventually put the episodes up on streaming.

It’s not always that simple.

@@JeffRauseo for in house stuff, companies like Disney for example, why wouldn’t it be? They own the rights outright. They have the ability to make a physical copy.

@@Chris.Smith420 its complex. Barbarian isn’t Disney. It’s Regency. Disney+ shows have their own agreements. There’s also licensing between production teams. Sometimes Disney is just the distribution arm. If the physical media department had their way I’m sure they’d do it. But Disney corporate wanted subscribers. Now it’s changing a bit.

Tell me your ignorant of how the industry works without telling me. It's NOT that simple at all.

@@JeffRauseo ​ “If you buy the bootleg and then they release a Bluray and no one buys it Disney will just say ‘well that was a failure, I guess we won’t do that again.” Or they could say: ‘We waited until season 4 of the Mandalorian before putting out season 1 so if we (Disney) want to make money on physical releases we can’t wait years to do it.’ Your whole video is just corporate apologia for bad decision making by business. Blaming consumers is as lame as the ads you would see on old dvds asking whether ‘you would steal a car.’ If you knew anything about piracy - you would be thanking the pirates, as they are doing the job studios aren’t and introducing shows and movies (affordably) to audiences around the world - leading to future subs and sales. Game of Thrones (a show I find absolutely boring) became the INTERNATIONAL sensation it did in no small part because of pirates translating it to other languages that HBO initially ignored. Feel free to google the Forbes article ‘Game of Thrones Most Pirated Show but Does HBO Care?,’ or google why CD Projekt Red doesn’t put DRM on their games - even at launch. This video is ignorant, corporate bootlicking garbage that punches down and ignores those who are directly responsible for the outcomes - studio decision makers.

This

I've got Prey and Mando season 1 and 2 on bootleg blu ray. I would 100% buy official releases of them all if given the option right now.

Barbarian came out how long ago and it doesn’t have a physical release? If it’s anyone hurting those departments, it’s the studios themselves. Not the people willing to spend their money on the art. Collectors are a rare breed that will almost always buy the legit version of something after owning a bootleg/inferior copy. People now purchase multiple versions of the same movie just to own all of them.

Yep…

👍. There are places that are doing it legally but there are so many layers to this. If you only watch it on streaming or buy it digitally the companies say hey look out streaming service or digital sales are great so we don’t have to put a physical release out.. hence Disney now looking into physical media releases again. It hurts physical when we only watch streaming and buy digitally. It puts the studios in control. No one in their right mind is going to just keep the bootleg when a official release comes out. Anyone who owns physical is a collector and if they were fan enough to get seek and get a bootleg then you bet their bottom dollar they will buy official release. Also, if studios see people are buying the bootlegs then they may want to pull the trigger faster on releasing a physical because they see the demand. Also they can remove anything from streaming at anytime. I only have a few. Blood Beach blu-ray(also Legit VHS), Alligator 1 &2, Alone in the Dark, TCM 2022.for Blood Beach still doesn’t have any official release anywhere so that’s why I have it. Alligators and Alone in the Dark I bought 4-5 years ago because you couldn’t find them anywhere but when Scream Factory released them I instantly preordered so I have the official copies because that’s supporting. For TCM I watched the crap out of it in Netflix but only have the bootleg as a holding place until it gets an official release. I also no longer have Netflix because there wasn’t really anything I cared to watch on there outside TCM and May the Devil Take You which needs a physical and doubt ever will. There are many films that may never get an official release with no way to watch them except bootleg or might not be released for years…. I’ll be dead by then so I’d really like to watch the film instead of saying oh well guess I’ll hope it will come out one days. I always do my research to see if there is a foreign release first if not one in US. Usually not all the time , if there is a foreign release only then there is a chance in the coming year there will be a US one. I’m region free so I just buy the foreign unless I don’t mind waiting a little longer depending on foreign label. I’ll buy dvd releases only if it was released in dvd not blu-ray. Buying bootleg in the long run is. Indifferent than buy king secondhand. If you buy from secondhand stores or eBay it only really goes to the seller but the artist. It doesn’t count either. It’s the same thing. If I buy infinity pool, then decide I don’t want it go to eBay and sell it. My original purchase is the only one that counts. Same if I told it at a local store.

That will get a release eventually. I have faith. It’s had official DVDs

@@JeffRauseo I hope you're right. And if it is given a proper release I'll be all over it. 🤞🏼

The BFI did a fantastic dvd.

If Clone Wars season 7, Andor and Mandalorian doesn’t get eventual blu ray releases I will be soooo upset. I will straight up by two or three copies of Clone Wars I don’t care I want it

@@JeffRauseo Sorry to say I strongly disagree with you about your topic here, I see no reason to just buy the digital copy and support while buying a disc to own at the same time. Streaming should not have to win this way. Especially if Disney+ and the others will just easily churn out a lot of garbage content digitally, we need to stop the business model. We need people to get the incentive that they put a real amount of time and effort put into what they make for content. Otherwise you might as well just buy NFT stuff. The market needs to stop shrinking and we need another way of stopping that if you want us to take you seriously, because this just sounds like an apathetic statement that any tool would make in support of greedy NeoLiberal Hollywood. It's bad enough people think these industries are woke when that's not the same as being Neoliberal. Piracy may not be a victimless crime but it certainly is a necessary evil until these idiots learn that some things should not change and people start going back to supporting how content was made before.

You are exactly correct. I own 15K plus movies. And I will happily buy a legitimate release every time. If if is available. If not and I love the title enough, I will buy a bootleg. 🤷‍♂️

Godfather had a 7 hour version??

@@avalond1193 Yes. It's 1 and 2 spliced together chronologically, with added footage. It starts with the beginning of Part 2 since it's a prequel, but scenes are woven together perfectly to get an amazing experience

@avalond1193 HBO was streaming it 10-12 years ago and it's been forgotten about ever since

The creator of Bob's Burgers brought that up. There was no way to get all the seasons on physical media and the bootlegs were better quality than the official DVDs for the first few seasons. We are actually living in an age where animated series creators are telling fans to buy bootlegs because the corporations are pulling them from streaming and locking them away with no way for anyone to ever experience the hard work that the creative team put into them.

Very few it seems agree with him.

Dude is sounding like a paid shill for film companies.

I disagree. The bootlegs hurt. The studios see that, and all they see is lost sales. In a world where even the best physical media releases may only sell 50,000 copies, a couple of thousand lost to bootlegs is bad business. Back in the day they sold so many VHS and DVD that they could recover. They still lost hundreds of millions. But nowadays, every sale counts. And every sale lost hurts.

@@JeffRauseo we will have to agree to disagree on this one… I realize you have a show. But I am someone who has actually worked directly in the music and film industry as an artist, actor and producer. With multiple studios since the 90’s. 🤷‍♂️ Also when you say only the best releases sell 50,000 copies, that is U.S. only numbers. Many other countries are still huge on physical media. I know this, because I have insider knowledge. Like a series of movies I was in called Mythica. The movies were produced by an independent studio. I was part of four of the first five films. We sold over 300K copies of that film series on DVD alone. Just in the U.S.. And just in Walmart. Because the distributor never finished paying. After filing bankruptcy. That is what was still owed on. Copies counted before that bankruptcy had been paid for. I am in direct contact with the studio heads of this series. So if they sold 300K plus copies of an independent film series, just on DVD and just in Walmart, then I know for a fact, bigger releases are moving more than 50K total units… Simply put: The Bootleg market wouldn’t be exploding like it is today, if the studios were filling this niche for buyers of physical media. I firmly believe most people will do the right thing and buy the official release if available. Especially since this isn’t like Napster, where the music was free. People still have to pay for these bootlegs. So if given a choice, to pay for an official release, or bootleg, I guarantee 99.99 percent of people would pay for the official release every single time. Unless it is like $60 verses a bootleg that is the same quality for $10. But if they are both about the same cost, people will always choose the official release. Believing the quality is superior because it is official. Which may or may not actually be true. But that is the perception of the public. So they will always choose official if available. I had to go back and manually edit my first post. I tried to use text to speech in a noisy room. And it made a mess. Lol

@@JeffRauseo if they want to make the sale, it needs to be offered. Not everybody is as patient as you. If companies don't offer what you need, don't make the consumer seem like they're the one to blame. It's on them.

​@Films At Home "The studios see that, and all they see is lost sales." Well, who's fault is that. Picture being McDonald's and choosing to stop selling hamburgers. Now you're looking at Wendy's selling hamburgers and you're jealous. They chose to stop catering to their long term supporters. And you don't have much room to talk about supporting creators (at least financially) if you are receiving review copies for free. You have EVEN LESS room to talk if you're reselling those review copies on ebay, whatnot, mercari, or wherever.

@@181andbeyond 90% of my collection is stuff I purchased. Stop the BS.

I think a lot of studios, especially in the streaming era, have push many people into bootlegs who normally wouldn't go that direction.

Well said. If a movie is gonna be Netflix only and I gotta pay monthly to watch it why wouldn't I pay $10 for a bootleg and risk it!

As someone who buys online a lot I’ve really never come across them.

Heath from Cereal at Midnight has one, specifically fake DVD box sets of TV shows.

The only times I buy bootlegs is when the show will never get released (Beavis And Butt-head), the wait for a legit release is obscenely long (JC, Little Darlings, Looking For Mr. Goodbar), or the bootleg has something the legit copies don’t (alternate cut of the movie, etc). And in most cases I would instantly buy a real copy if one were available.

I really want to buy the Underworld 4k set but it's sold out everywhere now.......everywhere besides Ebay of course where there's still plenty of copies. The problem is I don't trust any of these to be legit and I'm not paying $140 for what's most likely a fake copy

There will be an official release soon

Mentiras Arriesgadas! Got it from a thrift the other day for $3 and popped it right in. It's an official release from Mexico, and other than some strangeness to turn off subtitles, it looks and sounds great!

@@JeffRauseo Ya, but will James Cameron go DNR crazy like he did with T2? Worries me how much he likes that sort of thing.

​@@JeffRauseo you're purposefully missing the point

@@JeffRauseo I like your optimism and I hope your right but with the plane and the World Trade Center scene it seems unlikely to me but who knows

Except after you make a purchase, you have to go back and delete your browser history in case your spouse gets the wrong idea. :D

John Ramble! Miss those days thats how I got into watching Blu-Ray videos!

@@WhatsInAN8me Haha 🤦🏻‍♂️. Haven’t heard that in a while

What is MOD?

Manufactured on demand. Aren’t those considered less durable and more prone to rot than pressed discs though? I would much rather have a pressed disc than what is basically just a burned BD-R

Movies on demand are literally the same quality as bootlegs. I have multiple official MOD releases. And they are BD-Rs. Same as the bootlegs.

@@DangerousDevilOfficial I recall a failed format similar to DVDs called Divx. It was basically a rental where you would purchase a movie on a Divx disc and it would only be playable for 24-48 hours. It would then erase itself.

@@ForEternia you are correct about the format that played and basically died away after a short period. It was called Flex Play. Actually DivX is a codec not a type of disc. And it is still around, although nothing I know of uses it anymore. But yeah, those discs were an utter failure. Because of the amount of plastic waste they created. And streaming was beginning to go anyway. Those discs even had an expiration date. Rather you watched them or not. And the format was flawed anyway. As the few discs produced had problems playing out the gate. It was a terrible idea. And no surprise it failed before it even ever started basically.

Me too. DeSpecialized?

@@leadzeppbelly yes sir!

​@@leadzeppbellyyou're not really hurting the industry

Not everyone is a wealthy (by many standards) first worlder. A poor person isn't going to pay for 10 different streaming platforms

You have to forgive us in the US. We’re the most unquestioning, easily indoctrinated people. Whatever business says goes unquestioned here. People still believe that thing on dvds that compares piracy to stealing cars. 😂😂

The filmmakers often have no power in those decisions.

Right, disney could care less about physical media and putting there stuff out on physical so screw them.

I’ve seen boot blus of it.

What software do you use to burn it to a blank blu-ray disc and where did you buy it digitally?

Do you mean the original with the American actor parts or just the dubbing? As there's a 1985 with American dubbing on bluray, but not American actor parts. Its released by kraken releasing

They are literally no better than bootlegs today. I have about 7-8 official MOD releases. And to be fair, some of my bootlegs are better quality. 🤷‍♂️

@@DangerousDevilOfficial ah man that's frustrating

@@MyFireVideos well, you have to keep in mind, how these MOD are made. The reason this is an option to begin with, is the studio doesn’t want to spend the money to do a high end “official” physical media release. They then basically sub the work out or “farm” the work out to a contractor. Who is willing to make these MOD discs for them, for a cut of the sale price. Knowing they won’t sell tons and tons, they do very, very basic menus. No extras. And just a “play all” feature on some. To put in as little effort as possible. The only advantage they may have, is access to the original studio digital files. That have not already been compressed. Other than that, they are not doing anything most people couldn’t do. I have a small studio still. And quite a bit of my old label equipment. We have the ability to actually do any of these MOD discs and do a better job. Because we could spend the time to add extras and make menus, ect.. With access to Topaz software today and a few other key pieces of software and then a few thousand in equipment, you can set up a bootleg operation today every bit as good as the studio releases. With the exception that the discs are “duplicated” meaning burned. Rather than “replicated” which means using a glass master inside a factory to make the discs. The old reason replication was better than duplication, was because burnable disc quality was inferior 20 years ago. They were said to not last and degrade after a few years. Which on cheap discs was actually true. I have a few of those old discs still around as examples. But the discs for burning today are so much better quality, that the difference between the two is basically gone. If stored properly, a burned disc will last just as long as replicated discs today. It is all about storage and abuse. If you care for them orderly, there is no reason a burned Blu ray today won’t last 20-30-40 years or more…. In short, the formats will be long dead before it rots away. So the small runs we can make with burned discs today. Coupled with the fact that physical media sells so much less. It has made the bootleg market explode. And they are every bit as good as the offical releases in many cases today. I know. Because I have found a bootleg studio I buy from in China that has releases that look completely studio legit. Besides the burned disc on back. Otherwise, they are so good, they even have poly wrap on the cases. Just like a store bought Blu ray… So if there is something you want on physical media and can’t find it. Or it doesn’t exist, don’t be scared away from bootlegs. They are very good quality today. And until the studios fill this niche like they should, I have no issue recommending them anymore… 🤷‍♂️

That's funny that he talks about how buying bootlegs hurts the creators while turning around and mostly buying used.

Bootlegs are almost always on recordable media, so check for telltale signs that the disk is e.g. BD-R type, rather than a proper pressed disc.