Brilliant . Nothing like a physical display for me to understand a concept better than a 1000 words for me

Such a great demonstration. Very visual and to the point. Thank you.

I've heard this said before, but never put so clearly/understandably. I have had this explained during Dressage lessons. but I'm thrilled to hear that it is taught in Western Riding as well! As I have aged, Western saddles have become more and more appealing. Even more so now! Thank you, Warwick!

Warwick, you have a way of explaining things perfectly! I can't wait till your Darwin Clinic next year!!!

Hi I'm not Western rider but your principles apply across the board. You're absolutely amazing. Love your videos-all so so informative. Big big thankyou .😊😊

So you need to explain then, how to get his back round and move from his hind legs.

I started western first, my trainer then said that westernhorses just have their weight on the forehand :-( Thank god I changed to a classical trainer and my horse is not on the forehand any more. And she is in great shape now, said the osteopath today. Thanks to classical gymnastics :-))

Great explanation. The 'fake thing' is exactly how people wind up putting their horses on the forehand.

LOVE this!!!! Thank you so much for sharing this great bit of knowledge~!

The point of collection is for them to lift their backs, drop their heads, and engage their hindquarters. In doing that, their withers should go up, and their hips should shift downwards, putting more or equal amounts of weight on the hind end and the front end. It also lengthens strides, and separates their vertebraes. That ensures less of a chance of spinal injuries.

Thank you so much for this!

Warwick, you are the most down to earth trainer I've ever seen. I love every single one of your vids. I LOVE that your website takes paypal! Maybe I'm blind, but I couldn't find on your page if I sign up for the monthly fees, can I cancel at any time or is there a penalty, or minimum amount of time I must be signed up for?

Brilliant, sir!

This video for me shows how Warwick demonstrates the reasoning behind why something maybe wrong, and to be honest this is what led me to follow Warwick. His way of helping you to understand in all of his videos on KZfaq said to me "Get the subscription" and I haven't looked back. Thanks Warwick #journeyon20

Rider should get off the horse to do the belly lif/topline lift exercise. t. This is very good video to point out the fallacy of trying to get certain results (lifting horse's back) by using incorrect method. Am glad Mr. Schiller made this video. Pity he didn't go on to show rider how to correctly lift her horse's back the way veterinarians recommend.

Excellent!

awesome explanation

Paul you`re so right with your comments. I had to laugh - mutant quarterhorses :-)) About two years ago there was a western trainer at my stable, he just started a little palomino stallion that looked like a foal - it was only 19 month old. He pulled his head to it`s chest, stabbed him with his spurs and practiced spinns!! Some mothers of the english lesson girls got angry and yelled at him to stop. I was told by his girlfriend it was common practice to start a horse at that age for something called "Derby"!? Now the guy wasn`t that heavy, but if I look at videos of some famous western reining stars for instance S.....F..... he is quite heavy, I mean fat. So to imagine his weight on a tiny two year old, who is 99,5 % of the time on the forehand!? I also get kind of sick watching the pleasure horses, no cadence (they look like they`re limping about), on the forehand and extremely crooked, their hind end seeming to want to pass the front, or maybe they are going Traver (what do I know) :-)) Only very very few seem to NOT be crooked!

Learned to collect this way in western and then I switched to English. Luckily, I’ve been learning the proper way to collect by tucking the hind-end and a using some rein!

I knew I wanted the back to lift up, so legs could get further under the belly for better reach and smoother ride. How was the question. I do see that any actions that puts more of the weight on the forelegs is counter productive.

One of your videos is about teaching collection??

So logical!

So now you have showed the wrong way to do it - would you please show the correct way to do it? Pretty please!

you just made all the sense and made me wanna correct myself, but how do you get the horse to push his weight back on his hind legs and to engage them then?

I got it but I need some Clues looking for a video

Very nice explanation. Thank you. But now I'm wondering how I could imporva that? My guess is, it has to do with training the horse to go backwards and to stop properly first and then using this while aking to move forward. is that right?

Pft love that

I'm confused by something - why would you want to lift the horse's back?

Mr. Schiller, i`m a fan of Yours. But this video does NOT make sense. The reining horses You talk about do have an organised, well trained body and they do hang their heads low. There we agree. But they are surely not collected, they don`t bend their hocks properly and they don`t shift their weight to their hindquarters (where it should be in a well collected and well balanced horse). If anyone wants to see this done properly, he /she has to go look for followers of old masters like De la Gueriniére, read into Podhajski or Penquitt, even watch Branderup or a few of the top - workong equitators ... this is achieved by great personal discipline and hundreds of hours of methodical, consistent training. It cannot easily be explained in a 4min. video and i daresay that none of the reiners with their deformed mutant-quarterhorses are anywhere near that goal. Good riders and sportsmen they are, but correct collection would even be contrary to what they have to show the judges in their championships. Such is the reason why i quit westernriding. Westernriding and collection are on opposite shores of the river of reason. No offense, greetings, Paul

wow that horse really has no neck

It is the way this rider has been taught. Collection has nothing to do with dropping the head.

1. The horse has no bum so this needs building up. 2. The chick is too heavy for the skinny horse. 3. Of course the horse puts its weight on its front legs because she squeezed her legs and it thinks it’s being told to go forward. From what I could see the horse’s back never rounded when she badly attempted to get it to do so. Inexperienced rider.

You spent nearlly 5 minutes telling everyone how not to do it, but never said how to do it. What a waste of everyone's time.