Rep ships to Canada now and is a MUCH better option. Check them out!🤙🏼

@@MacStrengthCo Rep comes from china just like bells of steel, who knows might even come from same factory.

​@@FPShkED Yeah it's ridiculous although right now, it's $565 ($350 for AB-3000 FID Bench, $152 for shipping, $61 tax). Bench of Steel side is $533 ($400 for FID bench, 76$ shipping, $58 tax). Planning on biting the $30 difference but waiting til closer to Black Friday. This is shipping to Western Canada.

@@FPShkED $750 for me to ship a $650 squat rack.. that shipping cost makes Rogue more affordable for me!

@@MacStrengthCo They are not at all a better option. 1/3 of what you pay is shipping when you want to buy a rack.

Absolutely and if buying cheap equipment means working out I'm all for it. I couldn't take the constant complaints with their equipment from my followers anytime they had issues. I just don't officially endorse them is all. Most time's to buy REP over Titan isn't much more money but you get a TON more in quality.

Titan has a purpose of ripping customers off - no thanks Titan fitness

@@dc5131 never been ripped off by them.

@@eds7344 cool story bro.

One thing about titan I don’t like is I ordered a couple of items on line spotter arms and a pull up bar attachment for my squat stand but less then 30 minutes later I had to call them personally to cancel order because I found at the last minute that they weren’t going to work (my bad of course) they said they already shipped but that the arrival date was in over a week but they removed my money from my account immediately, and that when I received them I would have to pay out of pocket to return and box must be unopened (with pictures through email) a 20 percent restock fee as well.

Thanks. I need to do more videos like this.

Thanks I appreciate that!

Thanks man. This wasn't really a planned video, I just went out and shot it to give back to my followers.

I appreciate that!

right on!

Always!

Thanks!

I’m still trying to figure out how to use my camera never mind make KZfaq videos. All the best Kurt. 🤙🏼

Appreciate it. 🤙🏼

Happy to hear it and appreciate the feedback. What piece of equipment from them stands out for you as the best?

Agreed rogue makes some pretty good stuff but their customer service people need more training ,from what I can gather online and from Reddit, they have a lot of unhappy employees, I am assuming that is probably the reason why the customer service end of it sux

Unfortunately for me, a while back rogue was the only place to get a certain thing. It was a nightmare dealing with them. The item ended up not coming in because rogue couldn't get their act together with customer support and logistics. Not to mention I've noticed how badly they treat other people and how bad some of their products are.

Agreed. Rogue has great products but their customer service doesn’t match the quality of their products.

I've ordered all my kettlebells from Rouge, over the past 5yrs, and I've not had a single issue. Good quality product, decent prices too, and I always got my orders in a couple days just using the standard shipping.

Thanks. appreciate it.

Yes. Oak makes some really cool stuff. I don't think they need me even promoting it. ha ha. My wallet can only buy so much equipment so I have to pace myself! cheers, Rylan

thanks! appreciate that.

Appreciate it!

Appreciate what you've done for the home gym community Brandon. Having walked a tiny bit in your shoes in this space I respect what you have done even more. cheers, Rylan

Well said. Appreciate it. 🤙🏼

I'll never buy anything from BOS again. Titan maybe but BOS just blew it with me when they blatantly pay off their reviewers.

Was the right thing to do. I’m in this for completely different reasons than most gym pages.

Clearly I’m not in sales nor have any background in photography!!😂. Appreciate you.

Mark you get a gold ⭐️. You managed to avoid Titan!! Those are all great reputable companies right there.

over time it turned into that. People upset with those brands would message me. Just felt wrong promoting them.

@@MacStrengthCo I get it! Good for you. If it's not a fit, it's not a fit. No ill wishes, just no formal business relationship!

Too many people pushing products on youtube now. I don't do FREE reviews or get paid to sell products. Just review gear I tend to buy. Appreciate the feedback!

I still have a bunch of their stuff and just can’t put my name behind them anymore. That’s it. Cheers!

@@MacStrengthCo how much Rogue paying you?

@@jeremyd2003 loved this channel but it sounds like he finally sold out. Happens to all the channels tho so I don’t blame him. My dude is gotta make a living and I can’t hate him for that.

I have 2 of their X3 wall mounted space saving racks. I used to have the X2 but sold it and got the other 2 instead just because I wanted to free up space. I also have their V3 trap bar, the V2 SSB, plate holders the 9 barbell holder, rack mounted barbell holder, their short lat/row attachment, multigrip pull up bar, safety spotters (2 pairs), roller j cups, strongman log and the leg extension machine. All of those are good quality and priced really well, neither Rep nor Rogue come close in price point. The only Rep I have is the Gladiator MX barbell (got it on sale for $179 it usually goes for $359) flat bench (FB5000) the adjustable bench (AB4100) and their flat j cups, everything else from them is either gimmicky or high priced for the quality (Apollo rack is ridiculously priced and so is the Ares). Rogue is just overpriced completely and all hype and elitist fanboys. Real quality would be Eleiko, now that’s real top of the line that makes Rogue look like it really is: trash.

Welcome aboard!

Ya I don’t follow nor watch the “big” accounts for that reason. Except B. he told me not to buy a reverse hyper and I still did!😂

@@JoeyAme I’ll leave that open for people to decide on their own.

Just not a brand that I got into. Glad your happy with their gear!🤙🏼

Agreed. Bos seems like authentic sales

thats funny! You mean reviewing is just taking "free" equipment and selling it? cheers!

They still owe me $80 in commissions! I have no regrets not dealing with Titan anymore. Rest assured the big pages get paid well to sell their stuff.

Is that the reason you chose not to be an affiliate?

ya this was more of a "one take" honest ramble about how I feel. I think we are all sorta over the fake reviews and constantly being sold supplements and energy drinks! ha ha.

Appreciate the support and feedback!!

For a flat bench you have a ton of options. I've been using the FB-5000 from REP and have used the Thompson bench from Rogue. Both very similar. Look for a wide pad i you like more support. BOS has a new one out too can't remember the name (the names they choose are cheesy)lol. Check out Gluck's channel as he does a pretty good job reviewing the BOS benches.

I bought the bells of steel F.I.D bench and that one has been amazing for me

Just a dad ranting about life! ha ha. cheers!

Yes I still recommend it. Mine arrived missing the mounting hole to bolt it together. I had to spend 3 hours drilling holes out to assemble it. Once that was out of the way it works great.

@@MacStrengthCo I watched your review on it, very well done. Glad you still recommend the machine. I am trying to decide if the Ares is worth the extra cost compared to the lat tower. I know they are different machines. My heart says Ares but my mind says lat tower. Because of the lack of space this will be my last big machine purchase. I don't have space for a lat tower and FT. Thanks for your work. I am a new subscriber.

@@gvwolf3 to me most of the lat tower stuff can be replicated with pull ups/landmine rows/db rows etc. a functional trainer adds infinite movements.

@@MacStrengthCo interesting perspective. The slight majority of people I have talked to have the opposite opinion. I’ll probably just end up buying Ares 😂

@@gvwolf3 The problem is the cable range of motion on the on the lat pull down is very short. Hard to do accessory movements "properly" on it. The functional trainer has a much longer range of motion and allows for everything. Like you said the ARES does it all.

what are you looking for?

I'm not good at selling anything. Thanks for the support!

That's how I feel now. BOS just isn't my jam and would rather buy Rogue/REP.. or from a smaller company to get better quality.

I also have a lot of BoS stuff and will eventually move on but probably not for awhile as in Canada, we don't really have much options. It's nice to see REP make inroads to Canada but when you account for shipping, Canadians are paying like 40%-50% more for the equipment that we can pick up from BoS if you live in Calgary or Toronto. And as great as Rep and Rogue are, it's hard to justify paying that much more. We need more options up here with better shipping rates. It's terrible trying to outfit a gym here.

@@yaomeezy Having lived in Canada I feel your pain my friend and REP shipping to Canada along with Rogue gives you some better options but like you said if you live close the BOS warehouse that's a plus. No argument from me on that. cheers!

@@yaomeezy U guys have Oak club, and Irwin Fitness which R on par with Rogue, and r probably a lot better than rep. Maybe even better than Rogue in some ways.

@@dirtdog5045 I looked at Irwin but after shipping, its about a 150% in extra costs just for a rack. Are the racks a lot better? Yeah, but are they more than twice as good as BoS? Ehh, probably not.. So, I ultimately went the route of getting a BoS rack with a lat pull down, SSB and open trap bar for the same overall cost of just a standalone rack.. Then, once you add in accessories for the Irwin rack, you can purchase a functional trainer on top of that to add in the variety into your home training. However, if I was in the US, I could get similar amount of equipment, but from REP which is still a significant upgrade from BoS which is my original point.. I see a lot you guys south of the border outfitting amazing quality gyms for the same price we can outfit ours using mediocre equipment. #jealous lol

Buy the best quality you can afford and depends on how much you workout etc. If your using your gym 7 days a week with multiple people try to save up and get quality stuff. I made the mistake of buying cheaper stuff early on like Titan and at the time it fit my budget but 3 yrs later regretted it and the re sale on cheaper brands is next to nothing.

I used to workout everyday for 20+ years. Took a 3 year hiatus. Want to get back into it regularly. Looking at something is an all in one trainer. Cable pulley system. So many out there that I don't want to spend $1500 on something that rattles and is awkward. Or I'd like something that is plate loadable. My budget is around $3000-$3500.

@@chetpierzchala9557 for all in one machines check out Prime Fitness, force USA and Bolt fitness. Rep makes ares cable system worth looking into also.

I've found out the well known reviewers are taking payouts and free gear filming infomercials calling it a "review" sad to say but that's the only way they can make money in this game. I don't blame them just the way this youtube review thing is set up.

@@MacStrengthCo I can totally see that and I also think some people assume everyone doing a review is getting some immediate kick back or is getting paid for the review. I've gotten people accusing me of getting paid when I really like or feature something I'm interested in. I genuinely love doing reviews and walk that line of promoting / sharing products, being respectful to the company, but also giving an honest review. Other than a handful of free products, smaller channels like ours aren't getting any paid endorsements. Great channel BTW!

you bet

I'm not against BOS or Titan just had to stop promoting them due to the amount of negative issues people where having. Fair play to BOS I only have their arch nemesis bar but Titan's customer support was dismal at best.

Just minutes ago I just ordered the rep fitness sabre bar in 20 kg in the plain version. I wanted the black phosphate bad but I didn’t think $50 extra was worth it. With a 5% off discount code I found a total was $185.29 after tax and shipping Now I’m gonna spend the next two hours on researching collars. I am leaning towards the lockjaw aluminum with magnet for $55.

I haven’t.👍🏻

I couldn’t have said it better. The name on the squat rack doesn’t matter. Keep it simple and train hard. I’ve had some regrets and will do a video on stuff to avoid soon! Thanks for the comment and support. Cheers🤙🏼

I'm trying.. Thanks for the support.

Better than Titan is key!

Thanks. I appreciate it.

I think you will be happy you did. I have plans to do a video on some Titan products that aren't that bad actually but overall REP much closer to Rogue quality.

My Titan Lat Tower arrived missing the holes to assemble it. I rest my case on the quality. After I got it drilled it out it's really not a bad lat tower for $899 that I paid for it. BOS is way overpriced and essentially the exact same as the Titan tower which goes on sale for $1399 last I checked. If your on a budget go with the Titan one.

@@MacStrengthCo hear you loud and clear! Appreciate the feedback and great content!!!!

Appreciate the feedback and support. I'm hoping to help people from making the same mistakes I made. The Iron Skull bar continues to impress me to this day for what it offers at a great price point.

Excellent!👍🏻

Many similar brands are going out of business right now.. Titan makes wheelbarrows before they went into fitness gear. Stick with Rogue and Rep if you can.

@@MacStrengthCo I just purchased the ez curl bar from rep, quality is excellent.

It’s more putting my name behind the lower quality equipment was a problem because I get to hear about all the issues! I don’t get paid to review so clearly not worth it. 😂

after all these years and buying several titan equipment im just not a fan.

Think how many boneyard bars I can buy!😂🤷🏼‍♂️

@@MacStrengthCo 🙃

Thank you too!

Thanks!!!

Yes. I'm from Canada so I know your pain more than ever. I remember the pain of getting stuff shipped to me. You now have REP and ROGUE shipping to Canada so hopefully that helps you guys out a bit more. I'm from Vancouver, BC. cheers!

That is bizarre. I wonder how that happened? I'll even defend them by saying all the companies have sent me some funky shipping packages! ha ha.. I could tell some stories.

Absolutely! Just cheap companies and low quality equipment doesn’t mean it’s bad. Just don’t need the headache when stuff is wrong!

I'm with you. BOS is a garbage company and brand. They pay their reviewers to promote them which really bummed me out on buying their stuff.

absolutely they do. Have you seen Arsenal Strengths stuff? Or Williams strength? Super solid too.

@@MacStrengthCo no I have not. Thanks for the tip!

Awesome to hear! 🤙🏼

cheers!

Griffins only offer 1.5" of clearance and I wouldn't recommend them. The rogue AM2 mono's are better than REP's in my opinion and I have a review on them explaining why mono's don't work all that great to begin with.

Thank you sir, I appreciate the quick response and information. I’ll watch your video before making a decision.

@@MacStrengthCo I now own the Griffin Monos And love them. Just gotta be patient cause they're always out of stock...

yup. Social media as a whole has gotten out of control with adds and scams.

I would highly recommend you go 1” if you can. More accessories etc.

@@MacStrengthCo Only important if you want a bunch of accessories. Otherwise you are paying more for really no benefit.

What rack do you have?

@@MacStrengthCo I sold my home gym equipment during a big move :( So now starting to look at options again. Previously I had the Titan X3. Absolutely not the best quality - but it served me well for several years.

thanks for the follow!

Ya I know Titan has a few things that are decent and we still have some gear in our gym. Just not putting our name behind Titan anymore. I like your plan.

No argument from me and those dumbbells are really good. I still have a ton of Titan stuff. Just was too much headache to promote them when something went wrong I heard about it. cheers.

I had so many issues with Titan I gave up

@MacStrengthCo what issues did people have with the Titan t3 power rack?

How do you like that woodway treadmill? I’ve been looking at those.

@@MacStrengthCo we love it! We used to use it all the time at 24 hour fitness and wouldn’t settle for anything less. It supposedly can be used for up to 150k with little or no maintenance. It is pricey but hearing that motors go out on a lot of treadmills we felt we would save in the long run. They do have other brands but we’ve seen other brands under $2k and they look and feel really cheap. I notice TrueForm has one by Woodway for half the price. We don’t know what the big difference is but did hear good reviews on the TrueForm

@@moneymagnampo3355 appreciate the feedback. its on the list.

I totally get what your saying and love it! I'm canadian myself but Bells of steel is just a drop ship company that imports from China. Look at IRWIN FITNESS, PEPPIN FITNESS, OAK CLUB if you want to support local Canadian companies! My Canadian friends buy mostly from Irwin for their set ups and have been really happy with the quality. cheers!

@@MacStrengthCo I buy bells of steel now but would buy exclusively Canadian built if it was affordable!

@@mikesbigtank6015 I hear you. Canadian's just don't have many options for quality equipment without paying shipping costs associated with REP and ROGUE.

I can relate to what your saying. I've seen my fair share of issues let me tell you! cheers.

@@MacStrengthCo I have bought some things from Tru Grit, which a lot of people complain about. The airbike was perfect. They sent me the wrong pullup bar. They let me keep the bar and sent the correct one. Shipping was slow, but you can't beat that. I find if you talk to people decent, they will work with you most of the time. Now, I did buy some stuff from Sports and Fitness Exchange. They have the most disrespectful customer service I ever had. Luckily, the manufacturer has fixed any issues I've had (Proform HIIT was missing a handle). Thier prices are incredible, but some of the people working for them are out of control rude. The one dude flipped out because I was nice to him.

Griffin stole that design from another company so no one wants to touch it. They only give a few inches of clearance to the bar making them one of the worst performing monos on the market.

@@MacStrengthCo I actually measured from the front face of upright to the outer most tip to be 5-7/8" retracted and then 10-1/2" loaded with 135lbs. About 4-5/8" difference - Griffin claims 5"... I'm a finish carpenter and my Stanley Fat Max 25' tape tells no lies...Lol... I absolutely love my new Griffin Monos on my Rep 5000v2 ! They may be a stolen design, but show me a current fitness company that don't borrow other companies designs... I say try them before you knock them if you can catch them in stock Ha Ha... Thank you for answering my comment and thank-you for your previous advice on other purchases I've recently made on Titan, Rogue and Rep especially; just got their new utility bench w/pad and love it so far. My 12yr. old grand daughter made an in-rack spectator sofa out of it - HA...

@@edwardmeyer7178 First off I'm glad you like them and I have nothing against Griffin Im extremely technical person. When measured from the edge of the barbell to the nearest point of the mono when retracted they do not offer the clearance they claim. I've measured nearly all of the mono's including those Griffin ones and they ranked the lowest for clearance. Trust me I wanted the Griffin ones to work great. I was planning on ordering a set myself. I wish companies would send out prototypes to people that know what they are doing before releasing the product to make some tweaks etc. Thanks again for the comment and enjoy your monos, to me they work great on bench press. Your one of the first to get the new REP utility bench! Lot's of people have been asking for that one. cheers buddy!

Bells of steel pays off their youtube reviewers. Nothing honest about it.

I really appreciate what your saying but you do realize that the most sold home gym equipment in the world is Rogue which happens to be more expensive than the brands I'm promoting? I'm here for the masses and doing it honestly. I know it's against the grain for reviewers not doing "FREE" equipment reviews but here we are. cheers!

Agreed and I have it and use it! Mine arrived missing a mounting hole I had to drill out to assemble it however!!😂 it’s stuff like that is why I dropped them.

@@MacStrengthCo ha! I hear you! Mine had 2 holes that weren't drilled through properly and the metal parts on my cables were super rusted and so i had to get them replaced. Now that those issues have been resolved it's been great. With that being said I dont blame you for dropping them at all

Aside from paid reviews from BOS influencers I can't find many people that have their gear. It's good to get real feedback like yourself. Appreciate it.

@@MacStrengthCo Absolutely brother definitely not an influencer or anything just a dude trying to stay in shape. I'm not in Canada either as many other posters here.

I have some plans for it but will be keeping it for now. It arrived missing holes to even put it together. I had to drill my own holes. Titan quality right there!😂

@@MacStrengthCo thanks for replying to me!!! I appreciate your time. I’m debating between the Titan and the Rogue version. It’s just that rogue is twice the price as the Titan. But, I feel Rogue has better quality control.

@@MoeMoe-do1fd They have fixed that hole issue and once I got the Titan assembled it's worked great for us over the last few years. I actually have a full review on it and recommend it as as budget friendly lat tower. It goes on sale for $1399 often so if you can snag it fo the price do it. The BOS lat tower is a copy of the Titan and over priced so skip that one. Rogue's are nicer no doubt but quite a bit more money with shipping. I paid around $1000 for my Titan lat tower and happy with it for what I paid. If your looking buy once cry once go Rogue. If you just want to get training and stay on a budget get the Titan on sale.

@@MoeMoe-do1fd kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZ1gpJaCrNG-o2w.html

@@MacStrengthCo thank you for your input. Yes, I seen your video review and I took as a consideration. However, I saw your video of terminating your affiliation with Titan Fitness and mentioning that you might replace the Titan stuff. It made me wonder that you might of change your opinion of the Titan Lat/Tower since the time you posted the review video.

there's many titan companies. not sure.

A better option would be Rep Fitness now that they ship to Canada!🤙🏼

Gearforfit is great, got all of my weight plates from them at a great price

Well it's an exact copy of the Titan pulldown which I have and is decent. I wouldn't pay much more than $1350 for it however. I think BOS priced it way too high for what it is.

@@MacStrengthCo I got the pre-sale price plus first responder discount. I sold my Titan plate loaded lat pulldown.I couldn't get a full stretch, the leg padding was very narrow and I couldn't adjust it higher to fit my legs comfortably under it.

@@Bigspanish83 Sounds like you got a better price on it! Over the plate loaded once you will be much happier I'm sure. Let me know when you get it. Cheers!

Lol I have it and you won’t regret it. It is smooth as butter, and I too have upgraded from Titan’s plate loaded version (which I thought was fantastic by the way). Rylan is bang on - aside from a few tweaks, it’s basically the same as the Titan one. Aesthetically, you may prefer the roller thigh pads on Titan’s to the more classic style thigh pads on the BOS one. The other main difference is the size of the tubing. Titan’s is 3x3, whereas BOS’s is 2.3”x2.3”. Which is sturdier? Not sure as they would both need to be side by side. On the website though, the total weight for both pieces is basically exactly the same, with the BOS one listed as being a couple pounds heavier. Also, Titan has a 300lb stack whereas BOS has a 310lb stack. The BOS one also comes with a cheap version of a gym pin - it’s a nice touch and cool to throw in - it’ll get the job done, but comparing it to my gym pin, night and day in terms of quality. I will say, the quality of the padding on the BOS one leaves some to be desired. Will see how it holds up there but looking at perhaps addressing it down the road. A couple other minor things vs the Titan one… On the BOS one, there are two bolts that shouldn’t have their threads exposed. Titan covers these bolts with black plastic tubing. If someone has the Titan one then they’ll probably know which bolts I’m talking about - 1.) by the upper pulley - the bolt that’s used to keep the top attachment point in place and from unraveling over the top pulley. 2.) under the seat. Not sure why BOS wouldn’t just go the same route and have the black plastic tubing over those bolts - and how much money did they really save by skimping here? I still wouldn’t use this lat pull down (or the Titan one), for curls though. Aside from those few things only the super particular would notice, it is a solid piece so far. I really enjoy using it. As an aside…I asked REP in an AMA, if they could/would release a stand-alone lat pulldown/low row - they said it would be easy as they have all the necessary parts. I think it would be cool to see what theirs might look like. Hopefully they end up releasing one. 3x3 with 1” holes all the way around? Something like the fray fitness one, but better quality? Would be nice! Their take on the SSB with the knurled handles is sweet - so simple, yet beautiful. If that’s an indication of the minor tweaks they could make to a stand-alone lat pull down…that would be exciting. Have you heard anything about this, Rylan?

@@g.thandi824 when did you receive yours? I emailed them Friday and they said none of the new lat pulldowns have been shipped in the USA

I tried to sell mine for $50 and no takers so I’ll keep it.

@@MacStrengthCo mine works for my small garage gym that I’m pretty much I only workout in

I'm sorry that happened. They owe me $80 still and after countless emails I will never see that money. enjoy your new gym!

Appreciate the comment and feedback. No argument from me. BOS pays other reviewers to promote their equipment. That's the reason for the rant.

Sqd8r... We'll put . If you ain't in serious competition you'll be fine with just Amazon equipment. As long as there's progressive resistance the body could care less if it's Rogue or something from Dick's sporting goods!!!! For most folks the prices on those higher end equipment are just ridiculous.

I've tried all the different air bikes and always come back to the Rogue Echo being my favorite.

I have nothing against Titan or BOS just not promoting them anymore. Sounds like a nice gym set up! Thanks for watching!!🤙🏼

I made this video awhile ago and still can confirm your better off with REP or Rogue if at all possible. Titan has its moments.

It's been confirmed by several people already. I wish griffin all the best and hope they get it sorted. bottom line Rogues are far superior.

Cool story bro. :)

The only thing BOS and TITAN has got me is regret. Save up a month longer and buy REP. The quality difference is noticeable.

Appreciate the comment man. I’ve got nothing against BOS. Just not my jam. Cheers🤙🏼