Why I got an Urban Arrow as my first cargo bike

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Propel

Propel

Күн бұрын

propelbikes.com/product/urban... : Check out the Urban Arrow here
Today, we're excited to have Maddy, aka Cargo Bike Mama from Instagram, share her incredible cargo bike journey with us. Maddy's story began at Propel and has since evolved into a lifestyle that embraces efficiency, family time, and environmental consciousness.
In this video, we dive into:
* Maddy’s decision to choose the Urban Arrow cargo bike
* Transitioning from not biking to a cargo bike lifestyle
* Benefits of cargo bikes for urban living, especially in NYC
* Safety features, comfort, and adaptability of the Urban Arrow
* Practicality and storage solutions for cargo bikes in the city
Join us as Maddy shares her personal experiences, tips, and the reasons why she chose the Urban Arrow as her go-to cargo bike. Whether you're a seasoned rider or just curious about cargo biking, this video is packed with insights and inspiration.
Check out Maddy on Instagram @cargobikemama for more amazing content and follow her daily adventures.
Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe! Share your thoughts and experiences with cargo bikes in the comments below. Let’s continue the conversation and spread the love for cargo biking!
Timecodes:
00:00 Background on Maddy’s cargo bike journey
00:21 Decision to choose the Urban Arrow
01:12 Handling and maneuverability
02:36 Comparison of cargo bikes to cars
03:12 Different use scenarios for the Urban Arrow
03:48 Safety features and adaptability for carrying children
04:35 Accessories and weather protection
05:18 Comfort and safety considerations
06:18 Cost-effectiveness and affordability
07:12 Storage and security
08:42 Practicality and benefits in daily life
09:27 Economic and lifestyle benefits of cargo biking compared to car ownership
10:55 Health and environmental benefits of cargo biking
12:37 Considering cargo bikes as viable transportation options

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@Merlin0216
@Merlin0216 Ай бұрын
I believe sooo many people would do this if it just was safer. Many people don't feel safe on a bike, especially with kids - but not because of the bike, but because of the cars. Over there in the US ist must be even worse with all those stupid SUVs and "Trucks". Society needs to break Motonormativity so bad...
@badabing8884
@badabing8884 Ай бұрын
Exactly. We still live in a car centric world where cars come first and cyclists are caught inbetween pedestrians and vehicles. As good as this cargo bike is the number 1 concern is safety on roads. And for that authorities need to reconstruct urban environments by giving up road space and pavements to bikes before more people cycle.
@RFord2
@RFord2 11 күн бұрын
The more people that are convinced to bike locally the less car traffic there is to eventually contend with. Better urban planning for cities is going to become so important. People centred architecture is becoming more prevalent in larger urban centres thankfully.
@nzsnyc
@nzsnyc Ай бұрын
many thanks to Maddy for her tip on how to store a cargo bike on a street by putting a cover over it. it helped me overcome my fear of leaving it on the street overnight and i finally got the bike (RM Load 60) a couple of months ago. my 20 month old and i love it. :)
@cargobikeshark
@cargobikeshark Ай бұрын
Touched on ALL the potential barriers and benefits. Well done Maddy and Chris!
@Digital.Done.Right.
@Digital.Done.Right. Ай бұрын
Maddy is always a great rep for the urban biking life.
@apple369
@apple369 Ай бұрын
I live in Vancouver, BC and adore cargo bikes. I've had a Zigo for about 10 years and it's been modified as my needs change. The Zigo is unique because the front cargo box can be removed and the bike bcomes a traditional 2-wheel bike. I initially bought it to travel with my senior dog in the front stroller (it's build for kids but I modified it for a dog). When my dog passed away I had the stroller canvas removed and built a cargo box for the frame. Another handy thing about this bike is the front cargo box can be used as a shopping trolley when it's removed from the bike frame.
@Bikes0420
@Bikes0420 21 күн бұрын
So you just freeze your ass off six months a year and get salt all over your shit
@Dave-my1we
@Dave-my1we Ай бұрын
Always great content. Maddy is likely an inspiration to many. While I don’t have a cargo bike, I do ride my ebike daily for commuting/errands and, I’m 60+ and live in the mountain west. I am 100% convinced that increased bicycle usage is an overall huge positive for the individual and society at large. Keep riding, Maddy!
@spartancanuck
@spartancanuck Ай бұрын
Urban Arrow bakfeits have gotten a following here in Edmonton. It used to be that the people who had one were bike weirdos who I knew personally, but now I'm seeing them on a regular basis. Parents shuttling their kids down the 102 Ave bike corridor has gotten to be a pretty regular thing.
@jakemaas2068
@jakemaas2068 Ай бұрын
I rode up to an intersection in Amsterdam and a mom with twin babies were sitting in a cargo bike. The babies were adorable.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape Ай бұрын
We also rode a Urban Arrow in NL and fell in love. Ultimately with 3 kiddos we opted for a utility ebike with a Burley. There are some advantages and some disadvantages but ultimately we already had an ebike that would work (with dual batteries) so the cost of a new Urban Arrow just didn't make sense. Love her Instagram and enjoyed the video 😀
@RK-hw9tg
@RK-hw9tg Ай бұрын
Hats off for manoeuvring around crazy NY traffic with your family in that wheel barrow .
@tomselek1000
@tomselek1000 Ай бұрын
She was just on the Active Towns show. Maddy is making the rounds, good for you! She is blowing up!
@bartobruintjes7056
@bartobruintjes7056 Ай бұрын
Nice to see a Dutch bike invention in the US.
@ThomasMTube
@ThomasMTube Ай бұрын
Brilliant! I live in a city, don't have a cargo bike but I do have an ebike and they just make damn sense. I can cycle about the city and complete all my errands in the same time someone in a car would be stuck in traffic on their way to their first stop. Bike's especially ebikes are just so damn efficient - we just flow
@jacobpowell1882
@jacobpowell1882 Ай бұрын
We got an urban arrow from Propel 2 years ago. We aren’t instagram famous but have gotten to be pretty well know in our city. We toys around our 5 kids in the urban arrow (with a trail along bike on the back) all over town. I highly recommend it. It has definitely allowed us to be a 1 car family.
@DizzyDiddy
@DizzyDiddy Ай бұрын
We've got five kids, one car and an Urban Arrow too. A tag along bike might be a good idea for us too while we still have one kid in a car seat. Something to consider. We get noticed by locals too. The Urban Arrow has been a great conversation starter since we got ours last October.
@arnor811
@arnor811 Ай бұрын
What do you use for the trail along bike?
@jacobpowell1882
@jacobpowell1882 Ай бұрын
We have 2 burley piccolos for our trail a bike. We did have to modify the rack to make a good connection but they have been great. My two oldest sometimes ride their own bikes depending on where we are going.
@artsmit8004
@artsmit8004 Ай бұрын
​@@jacobpowell1882 I was just looking at reviews for that one. So you didn't use their proprietary back rack but modified your UA to handle the connection? What kind of modification was needed?
@jacobpowell1882
@jacobpowell1882 Ай бұрын
Honestly the proprietary rack came with with but I just cut the supports off of their rack and bolted it to the urban arrow rack.
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Ай бұрын
I love that they use a quieter motor than the R&M bikes. The CX and Speed are quite noisy.
@lighthunter1980
@lighthunter1980 Ай бұрын
I currently live in Australia but am moving at the end of the year to NYC. I have a R&M Load 75 and either ship it or sell and buy a new one (Rohloff this time) in your shop.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 Ай бұрын
Rohloff hub positively changes everything!
@rico1142
@rico1142 Ай бұрын
Love this, specially for NYC. Great idea.
@pao8ney
@pao8ney Ай бұрын
Love using my load4 75 in all errands… ❤
@effluvium9
@effluvium9 Ай бұрын
Amazing video Maddy & Chris! Keep up the great work!
@jayvis123111
@jayvis123111 28 күн бұрын
oh my goodness! I've been following Maddy when she was first mentioned on this channel, I never knew we were the same height! Glad that the urban arrow I've been staring at "through the window" of the internet will fit when I eventually get one.
@patrickhobbs96
@patrickhobbs96 Ай бұрын
It's called a bakfiets in the Netherlands. Very practical. The handlebars are higher, so you sit upright. You can transport groceries, not only kids, very well. 🙂
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 21 күн бұрын
But when you get those groceries back to your New York highrise, how do you get them all up to your apartment without anybody stealing them?
@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm
@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm 20 күн бұрын
@@GNMi79 Make friends with the doorman, concierge or others
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 20 күн бұрын
@@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm Most of the commenters on here are raving about how much money you can save by ditching your car and riding a cargo bike instead. Do you really think someone who is that much of a penny-pincher is going to live in a building with a concierge or doorman? If you can afford to live in a building like that, then the cost of car ownership is not an issue for you at all.
@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm
@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm 20 күн бұрын
@@GNMi79 we’re talking about a NY high rise , check the rents and get back to me
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 20 күн бұрын
@@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm That's exactly what I'm saying. The rent in NYC highrises isn't cheap. And the rent in buildings with concierges and doormen definitely isn't cheap. Anyone who lives in a building like that has no problem with the costs of car ownership. They don't need to ride a cargo bike to save money. And according to the commenters here, saving money is one of the main reasons for riding a cargo bike.
@SteveAlperson
@SteveAlperson Ай бұрын
Great interview. One of your best for the cargo bike. Good job Chris and Maddy.
@TotemKommo-o
@TotemKommo-o Ай бұрын
I personally want an Urban Arrow as well. Most people seem to get it for kids, but I'd like my partner to ride around in it (and yes, he's happily open to the idea) That, and groceries.
@bengie11355
@bengie11355 Ай бұрын
I'd rather have this over a car for transport in the city
@CaptApril123
@CaptApril123 Ай бұрын
I used a motorcycle cover on my first e-bike that I had to park outside, nobody touched it. After a year of ownership it's pretty much paid for itself anyway so if it gets stolen it's not a total disaster although I've never had an e-bike stolen as opposed to one of my regular bikes probably because of the extra care.
@LucasH567
@LucasH567 Ай бұрын
Such a great conversation! Just by being on the cargo bike, you are a billboard for what is possible.
@bobbieboothroyd8531
@bobbieboothroyd8531 Ай бұрын
It's always good to see you Maddy. I like the visor on your Helmet it's a good idea
@cebruthius
@cebruthius Ай бұрын
I'm loving the "robocop" style helmet
@tomreingold4024
@tomreingold4024 Ай бұрын
Maddy is a total badass. Smart, fun, and stylish.
@co7013
@co7013 Ай бұрын
This basic design of this cargo bike also works perfectly without electrical engine. There is a place for e-bikes, but if you're not covering larger distances and the terrain isn't too hilly, it doesn't need to be electrical.
@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm
@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm 20 күн бұрын
I remember when I was young and strong🙂
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 11 күн бұрын
@@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm YUP! Decades ago, for this senior handicapper!
@Starchild670
@Starchild670 Ай бұрын
More e-power to this woman. Bravo.
@ekcs3941
@ekcs3941 28 күн бұрын
We love our urban arrow! Def got sold to the idea via Maddys socials. We also have a GSD but for kids the UA is the best I think!
@joetilman7227
@joetilman7227 Ай бұрын
Great video...even the virtual barrel-roll, which nearly brought my lunch up 😁
@hahafalseflag5090
@hahafalseflag5090 Ай бұрын
from what I hear is ny is charging cars to drive thru the city.. these cargo bikes may come in handy..
@srobeck77
@srobeck77 Ай бұрын
Until u get robbed or mobbed by the illegal immigrant encampments. Time to flee that state
@drizzleprism5826
@drizzleprism5826 Ай бұрын
Hush you conservative slime
@dcltdw
@dcltdw Ай бұрын
Great video! Looking forward to more like these.
@letsgoOs1002
@letsgoOs1002 Ай бұрын
I wish we could have gotten a front loader but long tail bikes for us made way more sense. Pushing the stupid beg buttons would have been impossible with the front loader. But a gsd we have no problem parking the bike and pushing the beg buttons. But the new r and m small front loader has me very interested! We are definitely the only people in our area using a cargo bike year round. And people stop us all the time. We have a cool story if you guys want to come down northern Virginia.
@jadedjourneys
@jadedjourneys 17 күн бұрын
This is a really great video! Thanks
@reese924
@reese924 Ай бұрын
I got a long tail bc it was cheaper. I might have to change it out for an urban arrow. pricey though
@jadedjourneys
@jadedjourneys 17 күн бұрын
Re the height of the rider , I bought a Eunorau cargo bike (kids are behind me on the pannier ) and I am 5’8” and the seat is as low as it goes and I’m still on tip top! So that’s great urban arrow is an option for short people
@Certago
@Certago 26 күн бұрын
Inspiring, I salute you.
@freddyfrieza6742
@freddyfrieza6742 21 күн бұрын
Good luck with the fight of promotion, fighting comfort is hard. People need to want to put the effort in it ❤ love from the Netherlands
@bertoverweel6588
@bertoverweel6588 Ай бұрын
Lots of" Bakfiets moeders", "Cargobike mothers" in the Netherlands take their kids everywhere in city's .
@vinylducky
@vinylducky 21 күн бұрын
And Dads
@bertoverweel6588
@bertoverweel6588 21 күн бұрын
@@vinylducky Yep, Dads too but not as much as mams.
@vinylducky
@vinylducky 17 күн бұрын
@@bertoverweel6588 =))
@treakzy_9594
@treakzy_9594 3 күн бұрын
not riding a bakfiets or cargo but a usual moutainbike on the daily. i love it. not even owning a car is so much freedom
@bertkassing8541
@bertkassing8541 Ай бұрын
My great God, she is even smaller than my Chinese adopted daughter who is 155 cm :-) And she always says that she was adopted in the land of the giants :-) And I am almost 65 years of average height here in the Netherlands (184 cm) and my wife is 178 cm. But seriously: Great video to promote the cargo bikes.
@srobeck77
@srobeck77 Ай бұрын
WTF is a cm? this isnt Europe, so fix it.
@ironmotoadv
@ironmotoadv Ай бұрын
​@srobeck77 no, this is youtube. Deal with it
@highwayman15
@highwayman15 Ай бұрын
​@@srobeck77: 1 inch = 2.54 centimetres (cm) = 25.4 millimetres (mm)
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 21 күн бұрын
@@ironmotoadv KZfaq is an American company. Use an American ruler.
@michaelpickles1422
@michaelpickles1422 Ай бұрын
Inspirational, I've copied friends, sooo good!
@martinschwartz7342
@martinschwartz7342 Ай бұрын
Now I would like to see you do a video about the differences between the Urban Arrows and the Riese and Mullers. What are the advantages of one over the other?
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Ай бұрын
R&M tend to be more performance oriented, UA are more like a minivan, designed for kids and families. The big difference is the foam box on the UA provides a high level of safety and comfort for the kids.
@DizzyDiddy
@DizzyDiddy Ай бұрын
The suspension on R&M models makes a big difference comfort-wise for those traveling in the bucket. We have to be a bit more considerate going over bumps and slow down and try to warn our passengers before big bumps on our Urban Arrow. Suspension would be nice. Better infrastructure would be even better. Depending on the situation in your area suspension might not be as important. We didn't seriously consider R&M because of the price difference, but in retrospect I can see that added value.
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Ай бұрын
@@DizzyDiddy Have you tried the R&M for extended periods on those roads? FS isn't always a huge difference maker. Lowering tire pressure may help you.
@DizzyDiddy
@DizzyDiddy Ай бұрын
@@cadriver2570 I haven't tried any R&M, so I can't compare. We do keep our tire pressure relatively low. The passengers are largely fine with it and the problem is definitely more with the infrastructure than the bike.
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe Ай бұрын
she right, a bike cover does wonders for security
@gustavfn1
@gustavfn1 Ай бұрын
I bought a cargo bike but it’s like having an SUV seriosly. 😅
@keelferm
@keelferm Ай бұрын
Well played Maddy and partner
@redsorgum
@redsorgum Ай бұрын
If you don’t have kids but and you don’t want something that big, there’s always an electric trike. They definitely can carry a decent amount of stuff.
@topbanana3413
@topbanana3413 23 күн бұрын
This is the tank of cargo bikes.
@petergibson7287
@petergibson7287 Ай бұрын
They are a super nice bike, for sure. I'd buy a Big Easy myself, but hey, that's just me.
@jeffdible8171
@jeffdible8171 Ай бұрын
The practical application of car replacement! There can be so much win here. I will also echo what others have said that it will be wide scale acceptance and use with more protected infrastructure. It remains to be seen if there is the personal and political resolve to make it happen.
@darryljordan647
@darryljordan647 Ай бұрын
Are there safe cycling classes in NYC?
@curtlynn8495
@curtlynn8495 Ай бұрын
I wonder what the advantages/disadvantages are between a single versus a double front wheel?
@ChristopherRayMiller
@ChristopherRayMiller Ай бұрын
I have no personal experience with this, but from what I’ve seen in print and video reviews, double front wheel tricycles generally have a problem where if you take turn too fast/tight, the outside wheel can lift potentially leading to you tipping over. I forget which one, but there is one brand where they developed a system where both wheels tilt in the direction of the turn to avoid that problem. Apart from the brand with that innovation, two-wheeler bakfietsen are inherently more stable on turns, just like regular bikes. The one thing that’s different is that with the US Family (and I don’t know if this is true for other front-load cargo bikes as well), you have to get used to making wider angle turns than with regular bikes because the front wheel is so much farther ahead.
@markifi
@markifi 26 күн бұрын
Craig Cornelius a laidback bike report podcast talks about tilting trikes sometimes. the general idea is the same as ChristopherRayMiller wrote here. if you want stability you should go for 4 wheels (quattrovelo, pony4bike are quadracycles) or 2 wheels (yoonit, muli, bullitt), for a stable 3 wheeler there's velotilt, but the rollover resistance of non-tilting 3 wheelers is so poor even for low centre of gravity ones that you have to slow down for corners a lot. this is not first hand experience either, just listening to other people. for tilting ones putting two wheels in the front complicate things further because now you have to account for caster angle, camber angle, scrub radius, toe, bump steering, none of which are applicable to a simple 2 wheel cargo bike. it's a slight digression but if choosing a 2 wheel one, pay extra attention to how they implement the centre stand. it's the most important part of such a bike for comfortable day to day operation in my opinion. some of them make it so you don't have to manually lift the bike because the stand just barely touch the ground on either side, which would not be good on a regular bicycle, but on a heavy cargo bike it's preferable i think. for anyone using such a bike professionally, it's literally a hundred lifts a day they'd have to do if this part isn't thought out.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 Ай бұрын
Great bikes! The only way it could be more comfy to use is if your cargo bike is a recumbent trike
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Ай бұрын
You want to be vertical because you need to use your weight to stay the bike at times.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 26 күн бұрын
@@atomicsmith You can be almost vertical and STILL have complete recumbent seat support!!! Back support is huge when aging!
@darryljordan647
@darryljordan647 Ай бұрын
Where do you park it?
@user-lr4ey7kl4j
@user-lr4ey7kl4j Ай бұрын
Off topic here, but dude please tell me the make and model of your shoes?
@itzdono
@itzdono Ай бұрын
The problem I kept running into using a motorcycle cover in NY was that guys would pee on it.
@joshbobst1629
@joshbobst1629 Ай бұрын
Lol, what? You mean on the seat or handlebars? If not I don't see why that's an issue.
@itzdono
@itzdono Ай бұрын
@@joshbobst1629 No, on the cover of the bike - on it's side while it's parked with the cover on.
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe Ай бұрын
that's the reason why no one touches it cause got piss all over it, great security
@joshbobst1629
@joshbobst1629 Ай бұрын
@@itzdono The cover? You mean a textile cover you put over it every time you parked it? That does sound gross. But why did you put a cover on it? Was this just where you lived?
@itzdono
@itzdono Ай бұрын
@@DaBinChe Yeah, but then it's gross to touch without gloves & the bike needs to be washed to get rid of the smell.
@77flojoe77
@77flojoe77 22 күн бұрын
Please, guys, think of the weight of your Bakfiets. It is as heavy as a motorcycle. Learn how to safely maneuver one. In Cologne (Germany), we have initiatives that offer driver trainings for cargo bike drivers. Idea for a business in NY? 😉 Don't get me wrong. Love those bikes, just be sure to drive them safely. Especially when having your kids upfront in the frunk.
@Cl0ckcl0ck
@Cl0ckcl0ck Ай бұрын
Someone likes Crime Noir in Maddy's family. :P Nice video. And could you have filmed there with a car?
@meguzhev
@meguzhev Ай бұрын
How to trigger in grown male a cardiac arrest? Add phd to the set. And on serious note, Urban Arrows became vehicle class on its own. I can't imagine living in the Netherlands without.
@vinylducky
@vinylducky 21 күн бұрын
Just for context the Urban Arrow is larger then the Honda Goldwing, one of the largest motorcycles on sale today. THey are nice but my god it is a gigantic bike
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 21 күн бұрын
Might as well just get a subcompact car. They're about the same size.
@vinylducky
@vinylducky 20 күн бұрын
@@GNMi79 I live in the Netherlands and bike parking with the beast is quite a problem.
@bramharms72
@bramharms72 Ай бұрын
What use is a bike if it can't take a person on the back? 😀
@xFD2x
@xFD2x Ай бұрын
Exactly. Any Dutch bike with a luggage carrier in the back will carry an adult on the back seat.
@TheMaevian
@TheMaevian Ай бұрын
I prefer the Dolly, as I fear that my dog would destroy that foam
@markifi
@markifi 26 күн бұрын
put coroplast in the bottom and if dog scratches the sides, shout at the dog?
@PRH123
@PRH123 22 күн бұрын
Wow, that’s a very long bike. Not many cargo bikes are that long.
@hairypotter259
@hairypotter259 29 күн бұрын
That public transit being inefficient comment was a little bit silly
@jhampongfarhanpiczonlamban9058
@jhampongfarhanpiczonlamban9058 Ай бұрын
any four-wheel cargo bikes or three-wheels? feels like having four wheels or three-wheel option is much more versatile.
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Ай бұрын
They’re are several makes of 3-4 wheel cargo bikes available in the Netherlands. Most people choose 2 wheels because they are actually more stable.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 Ай бұрын
"Black Iron Horse" (I think correct name) is my favorite cargo trike. Twin tires up front, but it is steered by the single rear tire. As simple steering as steering can be! 2WD on the front tires with differential. Has E-assist too! Widest cargo/passenger box because of the rear wheel steering! Great videos on KZfaq of both riding and technical details! Cargo/passenger bicycles/tricycles are hugely needed! They literally and hugely make monetary sense to own!
@xFD2x
@xFD2x Ай бұрын
A 2 wheeled bike can ride (with the middle of the bike) on the edge of a path. 3 and 4 wheelers can not. Compare motor cycles and golf carts.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 Ай бұрын
@@xFD2x Fully agree! SW Ohio has the greatest miles of paved bicycle paths in all of America!!! Factual, not simply my opinion! 70yo senior, limited-mobility handicapper living where best, very scenic paved bicycle path mileage exists!!!
@markifi
@markifi 26 күн бұрын
there's the pony4bike which is a quadracycle, and the quattrovelo a velomobile with lots of storage
@TheRealE.B.
@TheRealE.B. 26 күн бұрын
People will spend $7,000 on a used car? Why? You can get a new bike for that!
@WHALEx3
@WHALEx3 18 күн бұрын
Not him calling her petite
@gungfuriceboy
@gungfuriceboy Ай бұрын
can i get 'training wheels for it....for the 'beginner' i am!!
@xFD2x
@xFD2x Ай бұрын
Training wheels would be an extra hazzard. Train with no load in a parking lot.
@gungfuriceboy
@gungfuriceboy Ай бұрын
@@xFD2x ok...i hate 'falling'!!
@snowleopard9749
@snowleopard9749 Ай бұрын
It's a nice bike but it is extremely expensive and unaffordable for many people.
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Ай бұрын
As they said, a car costs 10k a year just in fuel, insurance and maintenance (not including paid parking in an urban area). Even an MTA pass in NYC for a mom and 3 kids would be $6000/year. This bike is $8000 but will last decades. Sounds cheap to me.
@markifi
@markifi 26 күн бұрын
of course it's expensive it's like a top of the line long john cargo bike. you can buy the iumentum for less than half, but you won't have the electric assist or the cool accessories
@markifi
@markifi 26 күн бұрын
bakfietsnl bikes may be even cheaper, and under that there're used bakfietsnl bikes. these appeal a lot less than this thing though
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 21 күн бұрын
@@atomicsmith It will last until it gets stolen. In NYC, that's probably less than a year.
@hugobci
@hugobci Ай бұрын
You know something take make drivers CRAZY and MAD towards cyclists? They KNOW cyclists are having fun in situations where they are miserable, like traffic, for example.
@chow-chihuang4903
@chow-chihuang4903 Ай бұрын
I think that every time I see a driver move over in congested traffic to try to keep me from passing by them on my bike. As the saying goes, misery loves company, and some people love to spread it.
@curtlynn8495
@curtlynn8495 Ай бұрын
Yep, I contend I am a mirror that reflects how miserable they are.
@shahbazfawbush
@shahbazfawbush Ай бұрын
4:00 "I had an inkling I would have 3 kids" . How does one have this inkling? Our third was a surprise...
@Torsan1977
@Torsan1977 Ай бұрын
I wish these bikes weren't so expensive. I bought my cargobike for $3000 (new). What could make urban arrow and the likes become cheaper?
@xFD2x
@xFD2x Ай бұрын
Isn't that the same difference as between a Chevvy and a BMW ?
@Torsan1977
@Torsan1977 Ай бұрын
@@xFD2x idk 🙂
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 26 күн бұрын
@@markifi My favorite, the "Black Iron Horse" is Most Simple Rear Wheel Steering, 2WD with differential, E-assist, widest cargo and children box that I prefer to be up front!
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 26 күн бұрын
@@markifi Falling over at "test rides" seriously?! Videos exist of PROPER riding of the most simple engineering and the tightest steering circle. Users spending money RARELY tip over any expensive purchase!!! Get realistic please... If you bought one, you would NOT tip it over either!!!
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 26 күн бұрын
@@markifi I sure would love to have a Black Iron Horse!
@srobeck77
@srobeck77 Ай бұрын
$7,000 is a non-starter on a ebike for me. But that said, Ill only a buy a belt drive, not going back to chain drives.
@DizzyDiddy
@DizzyDiddy Ай бұрын
The finances make sense if it helps you replace a car. If it is on top of a vehicle it does seem more pricey. Depending on your use case it could still work out better financially in the long run not to rely on your car as much. There are cheaper options though. We ultimately went with an Urban Arrow and are very happy with that decision, but we were also looking at Bunch Bikes before we got the Urban Arrow. Those have more capacity and are cheaper, but they are less maneuverable as trikes and they are slower. Long tails can be significantly cheaper if those work for your use case too.
@joshbobst1629
@joshbobst1629 Ай бұрын
Average annual cost of car ownership crossed the $10k Rubicon last year. To quote Jason Slaughter, you could buy a new one of these, throw it in the trash at the end of the year, buy a new one, and you'd still be paying significantly less than owning a used car.
@DizzyDiddy
@DizzyDiddy Ай бұрын
@@joshbobst1629 to be fair, that's the average annual cost of owning a new car, not a used one.
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Ай бұрын
@@DizzyDiddyaverage mileage in the US costs $2400 in gas. Insurance at $150/m is $1800. That’s $4200 before maintenance, registration, parking,tolls etc. Even if you’re a very frugal used car driver, a cargo bike would easily pay for itself in 2 years.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 Ай бұрын
@@atomicsmith Then add in the LOWEST or NO COST Family Fun! OH.., YEAH!!!
@jeffmpvd7689
@jeffmpvd7689 Ай бұрын
As someone who was just in a serious bike crash, I HOPE she never has that happen!
@Bikes0420
@Bikes0420 21 күн бұрын
Have anything to do with you getting a fat discount for promoting the product? Lol.
@thrallingFRglory
@thrallingFRglory Ай бұрын
I would’ve bought an Urban Arrow had it not had that terrible Bosch motor. It’s a proprietary system that keeps you locked in.
@philipsimmonds1103
@philipsimmonds1103 Ай бұрын
I understand this bike in Holland.. but American infrastructure.. no way in Hell are my Kids in front ..
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 21 күн бұрын
They wouldn't be any safer in back. That would probably be even more dangerous.
@philipsimmonds1103
@philipsimmonds1103 21 күн бұрын
@GNMi79 I guess uve never experienced the right turn in North America
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 21 күн бұрын
@@philipsimmonds1103 Oh sure, I've experienced it. I've also experienced drivers coming up fast from behind, and blowing by with a just a couple of inches to spare between them and me. A slight miscalculation on the driver's part, and your babies in the back would be hood ornaments.
@philipsimmonds1103
@philipsimmonds1103 21 күн бұрын
@GNMi79 the right turn is a weekly event .. flybys not so much .. those bikes are made for Amsterdam.. in a bike lane away from cars on the canal..
@GNMi79
@GNMi79 20 күн бұрын
@@philipsimmonds1103 And in Amsterdam is probably where they should stay. I ride mostly on country roads with few intersections. The fly-by is much more common here than the right turn.
@ageoflove1980
@ageoflove1980 Ай бұрын
wat is dit voor onzin reclame afval... er zijn heel veel merken en types van dit soort fietsen verkrijgbaar
@jotham123
@jotham123 Ай бұрын
For cargo bike front loaders the only thing available near me is reise muller, or larry-vs-harry. That's all. Very sad. Many people are not even aware this kind of bike exists.
@texastomek1
@texastomek1 Ай бұрын
I can't with this one. I love your channel but I had to call it quits 2 minutes in after listening to her twice brag about her summers in the Netherlands. Get a grip, lady! I'll tune in for the next one.
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 Ай бұрын
aww someone is jaleous and frustrated. i would be to if i lived in a car infested country with nothing else then just cars. :)
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Ай бұрын
It’s pretty relevant to the story.
@texastomek1
@texastomek1 Ай бұрын
@@cadriver2570 it really isn't.
@texastomek1
@texastomek1 Ай бұрын
@@lexburen5932 I have nothing against the Netherlands... My issue is with her braggy demeanor.
@GreggMPlahy
@GreggMPlahy Ай бұрын
Maddy broke the sound barrier talking 1,000 words a minute.
@Chris-bn1bn
@Chris-bn1bn 22 күн бұрын
As I first saw this bike, what I saw a curved solar pannel on top of a wind splitting form underneath. Then I heard cargo, & I said awe. That would be interesting to try. If you mix the two, even better. A hinge & latch to open up the aerodynamic cargo area, cool.
@Fjodor.Tabularasa
@Fjodor.Tabularasa Ай бұрын
It's a cargo motorbike, which has nothing to do with bicycling
@drizzleprism5826
@drizzleprism5826 Ай бұрын
Nope. It’s an ebike, dude
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Ай бұрын
Huh?
@Fjodor.Tabularasa
@Fjodor.Tabularasa Ай бұрын
​​E bike= motor bike. It has an ENGINE, boy. ​@@drizzleprism5826
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith Ай бұрын
I’m amazed you had a hand free to type this since it’s normally picking Lycra out of your crack.
@ChristopherRayMiller
@ChristopherRayMiller Ай бұрын
I see your tabula is still very much rasa. This is not one of those e-bikes that are faddish and not entirely necessary. It’s much heavier than a normal bike both because of the extra frame out front and because of the added bucket and all it can carry. This makes an electric motor a necessity not only for ordinary travel but especially for riding up hills and inclines, especially if you are a small person like Maddy or someone who for whatever reason otherwise is not in top athletic form. These are apparently the best-selling cargo bikes in the Netherlands, where cargo bikes have ling been part of the landscape, and in a country that for five decades now has not needed any lectures about biking from anybody else.
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