one of my dad's biggest complaints about the books were that animus magic was too powerful so that would make sense that she would remove it in the third arc. (his first biggest complaint is that the dragons use weapons like spears instead of their own natural weapons)

Darkstalker: WE WILL BUILD A WALL AND MAKE THE ICEWINGS PAY FOR IT, I WILL MAKE PYRRHIA GREAT AGAIN Pls don't hate me

Hey! Maybe Peacemaker will find one of the earrings that block darkstalker's spells {Since that was basically HIS spell} That would be awesome

My friend group and I believe that the thought that you could do literally anything with that much power is what drives them insane, look at turtle for example. He is not insane, even though he uses his animus magic multiple times throughout the books and we know he used it multiple times before then. He wanted people not to notice him, so he couldn't just do anything with it, because he didn't want to be noticed.

I mean COME-ON! We all know glory's gonna have a kid soon! XD I LOVE IT!

I don’t love Peacemaker either. The idea of “starting over” could be interesting, but it was executed poorly in my opinion. I either wanted to see Darkstalker chose to be peacemaker with memories of darkstalker, or try and right his wrongs as darkstalker. I do hope he is somehow brought back in the third arc.

As long as Turtle is ok, I’m still gonna love the book series.

*Just gonna kill my queen, and every single Icewing multiple times, oh yea just gonna enchant my dad to disembowel himself too.* *"Oh yea I was just trying to make Pyrrhia a better place."* I respect your opinion, and Peacemaker wasn't my favorite character, but, Darkstalker was evil, no matter what you say. Even if they did convince him, he would still do evil things after a while. And, it was IMPOSSIBLE to kill him. He was immortal. The only thing that could affect him was his own magic. And it would be boring if they just did *"Ok, enchant this strawberry to kill Darkstalker."* Also, you have to teach dragonets manners. He was just poofed into existence. So obviously, he won't have manners yet. He's still technically 1 year old without being taught anything.

Darkstalker: *murders his own father and intendeds to murder his queen also wants to murder all icewings* Frozen: he only intended good

"only trying to do good" i am pressing x to doubt

1) Wormy 2005 commented this first, I just want to give my thoughts. 'Hey! Maybe Peacemaker will find one of the earrings that block darkstalker's spells {Since that was basically HIS spell} That would be awesome' There were repliers saying that him putting on an earring would make the return of Pyhhriah's most evil dragon. Actually, when you think about it, he would probably be really horrified. He'd already been shocked learning that he was 'evil' in DOD, and being Peacemaker would give him a new perspective. However, his immortality, invincibility, and other magic things he enchanted himself with to live forever would be erased also. He'd probably just... die. That was actually how I'd wanted him to be defeated. I knew he made a spell that stopped other animus dragons magic from affecting him, so I wanted them to use his scroll piece to take away all of his powers, and cancel his enchantments. Then, Darkstalkers age would catch up to him, and he would just... disintegrate. Crushed into dust by the weight of his sustained body. 2) Peacemaker represents the life Darkstalker could have had. Since we don't know the exact wording of what was written on the scroll piece, it is free to speculate that Darkstalker is trapped in a kind of mindscape WITHIN Peacemaker's soul. In my opinion, Peacemaker should be a Darkstalker without powers, with the same morals, personality, etc. 3) I've figured out that every dragon year is about three human years. So, Peacemaker at the end of DOD would be about toddler age, since they can talk and walk like he can. What toddler do you know that has perfect manners? It seems like a bit of a prejudiced view on a reason to dislike a character. 4) I entirely agree that Darkstalker had every right to be scared about basically being erased and reborn as a new dragon. However, since he thought he was doing the right thing, the option of just continuing as Peacemaker would NEVER have been chosen freely. The scroll plan makes it so that if Darkstalker reemerges in Peacemaker, they can kill him. It's another chance, but it also has a contingency plan because instead of an all-powerful dragon that can't die, it's a mortal dragon. Dark, but it's a smart plan. They wanted to give Hope a chance at a happy life with her dragonet, so this isn't only for Darkstalkers benefit either. 5) I've also heard the theory that the dragon Peacemaker marries and has a family with is a reincarnation of Clearsight, in a perfect world where they can have a happy life together. That seems beautiful. 6) I think that you hate what Peacemaker represents. It signifies an amazing character reduced to a rambunctious child, and that's fine. BUT. Peacemaker isn't grown up yet, we don't actually know his personality since he's a LITERAL toddler. In future arcs (cross my fingers here we go) I hope to see him develop into more than what we were shown. Tui knows what she's doing. That's all folks, this is not criticism, just observation.

'His animus magic was making him go insane' Frozen in book 10 it talks about Darkstalker going insane because of his actions, not because of his animus powers. As said in p.g 339 "'You didn't lose your sou because magic ate it away slowly,' Qibli said.' You lost it because you chose to do terrible things, over and over again.'" So yeah.. Just wanted to peacefully point that out.

Ok so several things. With Animus magic it is implied that the temptation of unlimited power is what is corrupting them not the magic eroding away their soul. This is why Darkstalker could do corrupting things when his magic was in the scroll or when he made the soul protector wristband with Anemone. Animus dragons corrupt their morals not their soul. Darkstalker is supposed to be a villain you empathize with and understand him NOT sympathize with him. The excuse of his horrible life doesn't make his actions okay or acceptable. Darkstalker chose to do those actions and refused to change himself as a person. He never saw himself as evil or the problem and chose to change everyone and everything around him. He chose to lie to those around him. Not to mention the genocide he committed on Icewings. No he logically cannot come back. The strawberry was a one time spell. It cannot be removed like Pyrite's necklace. The only way to reverse it is to have another Animus undo it which is impossible Animus magic is broken. (Spoilers for book 14! Boa destroyed ALL CURRENT Animus's powers irreversibly. Only select few people know of Peacemaker's past identity. The likelihood of future Animus (I am unsure if dragons that carried the powers hereditarily can have children that have animus powers due to Boa's Spell) Future Animus's most likely won't find out and or want to reverse Peacemaker's spell. As for the earing theory I think the spell would recognize Kinkajou as the "caster" since she was the one who made the spell. Much like how Chameleon has his shape change spells are spells that he made. Darkstalker had several chances to change himself for the better yet he chose to double down on the idea that he is not flawed or evil and only he could rule Pyrrhia. Also remember the strawberry spell was structured by Kinkajou You can like Darkstalker as a character but it is concerning if you think he is justified in his actions. He was flawed, selfish, murderous, manipulative, and unwilling to better themselves.

I don’t completely agree with you. Darkstalker was... complicated.. but the way you made your point makes it seem like he wasn’t that bad. No one is completely good or completely evil but just because Darkstalker cried and realized he did some bad things doesn’t erase the fact he almost killed an entire tribe out of spite along with their queen. I like Peacemaker because he symbolizes what Darkstalker could have been. I definitely don’t agree with you hating a child just because they don’t have manners. Also I think since Peacemaker doesn’t have any real memories beforehand he wouldn’t have manners anyways. K bye thanks for coming to my TED talk. (I’m not being hateful just contradicting)

Me: watches this 2 years late Also me: I KNOW that no one's going to read this but Im gonna right this anyways First of I don't want to judge anyone's perspective of peacemaker this is all my opinion and you guys can all judge him however you want just to make it clear (cuz some people would get angry with if I DIDN'T clarify this) but I don't think there's anything greatly wrong with peacemaker and I LOVE darkstalker and felt so bad for him when he was thinking of clearsight but I just enjoy peacemaker and whenever he is in part of books (Wich really ain't too often) I find myself laughing at his stupid child actions and wishing he had more interactions to me he isn't some brat he's a completely normal kid and that's what I like about him he goes from being this great legend to a perfectly fine side character and I see why people don't like him but the way think about is that he IS darkstalker just him without his powers and rude father and some great knowing that he's better than everyone else and needs to prove it no to me he is a character that people know and of course he has flaws but he's still just fine as a kid that makes you laugh but isn't that important peacemaker truly is ......... Strawberries. If your read all this thanks a lot😊

I dissagree with you abt animus magic i think darkstalker still losing his soul despite putting his magic away in a scroll and ither methods he used is proof of that i think darkstalker was simply doing bad things with good intent and that made him a bad dragon I think the whole point if the soul reader reading him as bad was to make this point Darkstalker. Is my fave character bc of his depth and i also think peacemaker is a mistake deleting an entire character and writting over them with a new one is never a good move unless its going to be addressed at some point I dont get why darkstalker couldnt just be allowed to be the same dragon with a new start Why did they have to write in character traits for him and decide what breed of dragon he would be? At least if darkstalker had written his own spell for this and decided for himself it would be better His character was done a great disservice

I agree with you, but the part in the WOF books that almost made me cry was when Clay almost died. Like actually I started tearing up ;-;

I would have preferred Darkstalker choosing to start over. Also, this video changed my mind about Peacemaker XD

I think it was creative to turn Darkstalker into Peacemaker instead of killing him like in most other stories, but I wish Peacemaker wasn't so annoying. I wish he was actually cute and nice, and I would have liked for him to retain some of the charm and intelligence that Darkstalker had.

Peacemaker: mommy I gotta go potty! *turns back into darkstalker* The fandom: YEET! Darkstalker and hope: wth!!!?????

ALSO!! The whole second arch is about Darkstalker changing dragons against their will and how Moon and the others try to tell him how that's wrong and why that's wrong, BUT THEY DO THAT EXACT THING TO DEFEAT HIM!!! They change him against his will: the exact thing they were preaching against so strongly! Personally, I don't mind Peacemaker's personality as much as I dislike what he represents, but I do agree with you that Peacemaker is by far my least favorite character.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY AND THAT YOU SUGGEST OML I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THIS THAT I DONT HAVE TIME TO WRITE, I GOING TO EDIT THIS COMMENT IN A MINUTE BUT FINALLY A VOICE YOU ARE A PREACH Okay this is what I wrote on my pmv- This is based around darkstalker and foeslayer, going back to how a lot of the scenes are like his first demise i didn't like how the 10th book ended and i'm probably going to make a video about it. The way foeslayer just allowed her babies to be dissembled and rebuilt as a dragonet without his own choice. It must have been malicious as he desperately tried to hold onto his memories that make him who he is, his memories slipping away as he becomes distorted and dizzy as his horns painfully grow smaller and in towards his head, his huge mass disappearing as he feels his body grow smaller and smaller. and just the way everyone was so happy he as gone, the ending was too abrupt and there as too much happiness. You made an amazing and educated explanation on this video and you've done an incredible job

What if.... Darkstalker was offered two choices? The first choice is the Peacemaker choice, but the second is that he loses his Animus magic (right away) and his Nightwing powers gradually disappear? I think he'd definitely choose option two. It's so sad, though, how he's so frightened of being evil but ends up doing some morally questionable things, but all the time convinced he's doing good. Edit: in the second one, he also becomes normal-sized instead of a giant.

I agree with you, darkstalker is my FAVORITE character and it’s kinda sad he turned into a completely different dragon. But, I could see why tui HAD to choose something like this tho I mean darkstalker was an animus, immortal, and HUGE so he couldn’t have really been defeated in any other way 🙂

I agree with you.Peacemaker is cute, but i love Darkstalker more than any dragon in the series (i also cryed).

I feel like they didn’t have a choice and had to change him. HE LITERALLY TRIED TO KILL AN ENTIRE TRIBE. Also, before he “died” he was yelling at them and saying he was going to rule the entire continent, and they couldn’t do anything to stop him. In legends, in the middle and end of the book, you can see him thinking evil and very selfish thoughts. He had no problem killing indigo. (Yes he did kill her. Darkstalker didn’t expect her to be saved, so technically he tried to kill her) He also had no problem completely changing fathom and lying about it right to their faces. He manipulated other dragons, killed tons of icewings, changed dragons against their will, killed his father, ruined his sisters life, almost ruined clear sights life, tried to kill indigo, and lied and lied and lied selfishly without any remorse.i read book 6, 9, and 10 again, and I saw that he didn’t apologize for the horrible things he had done once. All he said was that he forgave clearsight. Not that she needed to forgive him or anything... Speaking of clearsight, before he got out to sleep, he yelled at her (in his head not out loud) and grabbed her wrist and twisted it painfully, purposely hurting her and causing her to cry. But he didn’t care. He tried to make pyrhia (can’t spell lol) a better place? Yes he did, for himself. Like I said he was incredibly selfish and only cared about himself, not caring how he affected others. He wanted power and control and didn’t care what he had to do to get it, even if it meant ruining and ending tons of lives. He enchanted everyone around him and killed hundreds of icewings without caring. Of course he didn’t get a choice on changing or not. Do villains in movies and other books get to choose to be defeated? They had to stop him, and couldn’t give him a choice on that. Yes, peacemaker was nothing like darkstalker, but that’s a good thing, because, in my opinion, darkstalker was a selfish, cocky, manipulating jerk. Whew okay. I know I just went on an angry rant there, but I do respect your opinion and see why you think that.

And also, one other thing, is clearsight. In scrolls, most dragons most likely see her as some idiot that didn’t realize that darkstalker was evil, when she most certainly did. And, though I don’t know the exact quote, he said something this “but what about clearsight? If I’m dead then she’ll be ever more lost then before!” When he was becoming peacemaker. And this is very true, because he, other the hope, who can never reveal anything, he was the last dragon to actually remember her.

Im just gonna say one thing that speaks for its self: kinkajou made the spell

I'm not trying to contradict you but I do believe that the scene in darkness of dragons between darkstalker and qibli very heavily hinted that this was more of a superstition than anything else. I would argue that it is the absolute power that corrupts not the magic itself. Now you could that darkstalker thought he was doing the right thing and I agree, I just also believe that his actions are his own doing not the magics. Now they could have came up with a much more humane way of dealing with this issue because darkstalker at the end of the second arc needed to be stopped for the sake of every dragons freedom. But the way in which they did it is contradictory to what these dragons stand for and are essentially no better then darkstalker himself by changing him against his will. Even making the strawberry making him sleep forever would have been a much better plan. Essentially doing what clearsight did, but considering everything it worked. Darkstalker is there no you can't kill him but you also don't change him. If we really needed too turtle could have built a mountain around him or anemone. There were so many better options, it didn't have to be this one.

We can try to fix this. Darkstalker is slightly conscious of what happens around Peacemaker, but at the same time does not understand and cannot do anything, not even know what Peacemaker feels or thinks. Slowly, Darkstalker struggles and manages to put himself in Peacemaker's mind, though he still cannot see the future or other's thoughts, but he knows what is going on in the real world, and in Peacemaker's world. Over the course of maybe a year or some months, Darkstalker manages to influence the dragonet's thoughts and actions slightly, but the same happens to him, as he starts to realize what he could have been. Peacemaker just thinks he's a cool imaginary friend, and occasionally sees him in his dreams. Darkstalker befriends him easily, despite his great disgust towards strawberries. Slowly, the timeline that Moon foresaw begins to shift. Peacemaker finds one of the earrings that erase Darkstalker's spells. He feels oddly attracted to it, and Darkstalker tells him to keep it. He tells him that he really likes it,.. and that maybe it could bring him to life, so they can do whatever they want together. One night, Peacemaker puts on the earring, and the next morning, when Hope came to wake him up for school, she found a huge dragon that she thought she'd never see again. Shall I continue?

Umm for the “good of Pyrrhia” he literally kills almost the whole IceWing tribes including the queen. Edited Version: I know he thought he was doing good but thinking you are doing something for the good of you/your people/even country but it is something that is generally frowned upon doesn’t really make you a “good person” (I FREAKING LOVE DARKSTALKER HE IS AWESOME BUT HE IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER BUT HE ISN’T A GOOD CHARACTER IN THE BOOK.

Personally, I like the way Darkstalker was handled. I do agree on using animus powers makes a dragon go insane, but I also don't think it's an excuse for what he did. Yes, Darkstalker did want to do what was right for Pyrrhia but he handled it in a narrow-minded, often spiteful, and sometimes even downright dangerous manner. I can also agree that Darkstalker was a fantastically written character, one of my personal favorites, however, Darkstalker as he was would have never agreed to start life over. Darkstalker by that point was too corrupt to redeem himself. I firmly believe he wouldn't have been able to change. I also enjoy that they turned him into a dragonet. In a way, Darkstalker is dead, but he isn't entirely gone. They wiped his memory and made him a dragonet, yes, but they didn't completely strip his personality. Darkstalker started as a good dragon, it was only through corruption and insanity he got to where he was. Sure, he was made pretty childish, but that's kind of how kids just... are. If he's about a year old it stands to reason that behavior wouldn't be completely out of the ordinary.

you: my heart was literally ripped open me: HOW ARE YOU ALIVE TELL ME YOUR SECRETS edit: ty for the likes lol

It’s like you can read my mind.

I have idea Maybe if a big enough threat would present itself then Moon turtle and quibli might be able to bring back darkstalker but make him good and help them against this new threat

Peacemaker is just a mask, like Pyrite or Soar, he is not a "real" dragon that's why I'm so uncomfortable with him. He was shaped by Kinkajou to be a certain way

I only half agree. I agree that he should have acted older with more manners but I liked that twist in the end. It gives it a feel that Darkstalker is gone but still there in a way. As if he could come back with one of those ear rings they used to block it out. Ik Tui T Sutherland wouldn’t do that but if gives it a feel that Darkstalker could return given the circumstances.

I respect your opinion! I only like him cause of his design, but other than that nah ;0; Edit:Thx for dem likes ;0;

0:52 - By wiping out the icewings

I know he thought he was a good dragon, but he tried to commit genocide and emotionally manipulated hundreds of people. He had a lot of chances to think and a lot of different dragons tried to explain that to him. He's the less successful version of Wasp and doesn't and wouldn't choose a redemption ark

Tbh I hated the ending of darkness of dragons, the entire arc was basically the jade winglet trying to tell darkstalker that controlling other dragons against their will is bad, but then they forced him to become an entirely different dragon. Also Vulture’s whole army became kind of irrelevant at the end and is no one going to talk about how the fate of the ENTIRE ICEWING TRIBE is resting on some earrings. Like there was so much stuff there that was left unanswered and there was a lot more of phyrria that I’d like to see explored, I haven’t got book 12 yet but I’m hoping that there will be more on phyrria in the future because I have a lot of unanswered questions.

Darkstalker was borderline abusive. I mean, yeah, he didn’t deserve that fate, but Arctic didn’t deserve his fate either. And Darkstalker didn’t listen to poor Clearsight and Fathom. Whiteout was left as an orphan with only a terrible grandmother left who would never take her in. The only light in her life was Thoughtful. She was left not knowing where her brother was, not knowing if her mother was alive, and ptsd after seeing the tragic death of her father. The nightwings and icewings were left terrified of everything that Darkstalker did.

Darkstalker is probably my favorite character, and if not, definitely among my favorites. He was so complicated, and incredibly deep, and charismatic. He had so much good in him, but also evil. What made his character so interesting and relate able, is that he thought genuinely what he was doing was right. Everything he did, he saw that as helping his tribe, and the rest of Pyrria. I'm not saying that he was completely good, he definately tried to kill an entire tribe out of spite. And the way he had his father killed was just brutal. But that's what makes me love him more. He is just so complicated. I would have absolutely adored the ending is Qibli just accepted his animus powers, and helped Darkstalker make better decisions, and become a better dragon. At least if he died, I would be able to say how much of a great character he was. Even though he isn't actually dead, I will still mourn him. I would like to like Peacemaker more, but, I just can't that much. Oh well. I seriously hope Darkstalker comes back, in a very cool, incredibly awesome and story-appropriate way. Great video!

I don't really like Peacemaker, but Darkstalker should have known that WIPING OUT THE ICEWINGS was a terrible idea! He should have known that manipulating dragons was a bad idea. I do respect that you like Darkstalker. I like Darkstalker! I just don't like the things he did with his animus magic and stuff. Also, I really like your art style! I wish that I could draw like that!😋😋😋😋

1:20 Technically, he actually wasn't. He said he was caring and believing he was doing the right thing, but after he killed his own father, he turned to Whiteout and his friends, and just glared at Whiteout crying over her father with numerous dragons in horror and shock. He just glared and decided to leave his sister without even comforting her once. He left for his power. He didn't care about his friends. He just used his power to impress them so it made them _think_ he cared about him. In addition, we mostly saw stuff through Darkstalker's eyes. Darkstalker sometimes KNEW he wasn't doing good things, like when he was trying to change FierceTeeth into ClearSight and when he hurt Anemone and bound her mouth shut entirely. I hate him so much, actually. Who would even like a dragon who tried to wipe out a tribe, kill all dragons that disobeyed him or didn't bow under him, even if they were innocent, he wanted control over the entire continent and all he cared about was power. He chose POWER over his family and friends. I'm glad ClearSight set him to sleep, but I hate what they dod to rid of him. I genuinely wish that he instead would just be tortured to death forever. He deserved it. Darkstalker was the most evil character. I know some of you think Arctic is the most evil, but no. Arctic said he wouldn't kill his own son in the books. It also noted that, even though the edges of his heart were rotten, he had a warmth and love deep inside. Just an outer shell to cover it. Arctic was also taking WhiteOut to safety. It's likely Whiteout wouldn't follow him if he asked because Whiteout probably dislikes her father a bit too, but she still loves him, just not willing to follow him. So he helped her by enchanting her to come with him to the Ice Palace to potentially become a Queen and have a better life. He wanted to get Foeslayer back, too. He never was trying to kill her. He also wanted to help end the war with avoiding the Queen's orders of killing his children because he cared about them, unlike how darkstalker just cared about his power. So there's my rant. Enjoy it while it lasts. Ps Darkstalker was always wayy too op to ever exist. Kind of wish Tui never decided to make any association with him. I loved when Darkstalker died. As long as he was gone, I was happy throughout the books, but dragons are different from humans, so you can't expect all _baby_ dragons at that matter to behave normally, also considering that he was sort of created at the start, and wasn't entirely raised from birth. You should really understand that. However, I do agree that he should have sinply died at that.

While I completely understand your point of view, I will have to disagree on something. Let me start off by saying that I do also dislike peacemaker, only because his transformation was executed poorly. However, it doesn't matter what darkstalker thought he was doing, he was still making all of the wrong choices. killing dragons, getting revenge on his mother's death when it was really foeslayers fault, etc. All I'm saying is, that's not the kind of thing that is excusable. please note that this is just my opinion :).

I didn't cry when Darkstalker essentially died But I got really sad and couldn't sleep and even my friends got worried

You should make a vid of you shipping the dragons

I feel excactly the same about darkstalker! I was reallly sad when he died, and how he didnt get a chance to explain himself. After reading darkstalker legends, i longed for the little four year old darkstlker when clearsight first met him. I dont hate peacemaker and dont blame him for being the symbol of long lost darkstlalker but perhaps it would be better if kinkajou had made a spell for him to recover his soul and know what is really best for the world. Idk this is just my opinion

I feel like a better ending is somehow tricking DarkStalker into sleep again, though it's likely he wouldn't fall for the bracelet trick, what about the strawberry? Or maybe the strawberry made him no longer powerful, or even just made him back to his younger self with no Animus magic and with no urge to rule the whole continent. I still like peacemaker though, I wish he was a separate character from DarkStalker

0:50 so disemboweling his father is doing good?man ive got life all worng

Frozen: in Darkstalker's own eyes he thought he was doing a good thing making the right decision everybody else: so darkstalker is basically thanos in a nutshell

When an animus dragon uses their magic, it takes a bit of their soul with it. When used on a very large scale, it turns the dragon insane. I got this knowledge from book two, The Lost Heir.

You guys know that Wings of Fire book 14 "The Dangerous Gift" is coming out on September 17,2020 right? Like if you love WoF!!

I was skipping ahead of the video a bit and this is what I here: “I die-“

I haven’t read this far into the books yet but What happens If peacemaker dies, which he will eventually… does he turn into Darkstalker, and then gets to live again?

*has complete map to resolve the Darkstalker/peacemaker issue xD

5:56 With Deathbringer lol

I think Peacemaker is a wholesome strawberry :3 (No hate :D) Edit: I do like Darkstalker a lot though and would have preferred it if maybe clearsight somehow was still alive and back on Phyrria. Maybe then he would have been better and Moon, Kinkajou and his freaking MOTHER wouldn’t have felt the need to transform him.

I pronounce it Pyrrhia like "Fear-ha" is there any *actually* correct way?

I thought maybe if darkstalker was no longer an animus it would be good.... Maybe a normal sized dragon, too? That way he could work at Jade mountain, and they would make him forget trying to rule the world and be happy with glory. Peacemaker is too unnatural.

That’s illogical though. Just because he thought he was doing the right thing doesn’t mean he *was* doing the right thing. Also, even though he believed in a better Pyhrria, there were still many choices he made that were really only for power, like Qibli explained. He tried to make everything seem acceptable in his mind so he wouldn’t feel guilt. That said we can easily list every bad thing he did, but that would take to long. The first choice he ever made was to take power, by not bringing Whiteout out of her egg. His motives were very out of line and he was very selfish, even to the point of harming Clearsight. And don’t forget everything he did to the IceWings. (Also btw you’re half IceWing and I’m IceWing lol) Also all of his horrific choices led toward a extremely damaged soul, on the edge of madness. He never was the nicest to people either, only people who gave him what he wanted. Also just because you say Darkstalker is good doesn’t give you a justifiable reason to really hate Peacemaker. It’s not Peacemaker’s fault at all, and burning all your hate on him just because you wish another character wasn’t transformed doesn’t make sense. Instead of hating the character, it would be more logical to hate the fact of Darkstalker being removed, if you really wish he were still in the series. Not a hate comment, I just wanted you to realize that.

If we have a chair and slowly replace all of its parts with identical ones to the point where we can build a new chair with the original pieces, will the chair with its parts replaced be a new chair?

But doesn't every villain find justification in their wrongful actions? Scarlet saw herself as a victim and thought the world revolved around her. Morrowseer thought the Nightwings deserved to best and every other tribe just wasn't important. Blister thought she deserved to be the Sandwing queen because of how smart she was. And Darkstalker thought that the world should worship him and that anyone who wronged him or his friends must be punished. He was a villain, and he just found justification in his wrongful actions.

I don't think he was evil. Darkstalker did what he thought was right, and he didn't do anything he thought was evil on purpose. The spell Kinkajou put on him could have been something to make Darkstalker realize all his mistakes, instead of wiping him out entirely with a new personality. Also, if Peacemaker is nearly a year old, he should have a bit of a wider vocabulary and should be a LOT smarter, considering that Anemone is one years old as well, and isn't as childish. #BringbackDarkie

I completely disagree with you, but I’m glad you talked to us about why you hate him, and I understand so much more why you do. I don’t per say like his character, but I am okay with how Tui “killed” Darkstalker. Side note: your character is beautiful 😍😅

I don’t like him either, but I felt like people would hate on me if I said I didn’t like him.

i think it would have been much better for darkstalker to realize what he'd done was bad and, like you said, all he wants is for pyriah to be better and then willingly eat the strawberry because he believes pyriah will be a better place and that's what he wants, and then transform into peacemaker but a much more mature peacemaker, not some toddler (or they could have turned him into and OBJECT like what he did with indigo and make sure no one will be able to bring him back)

I don't like peacemaker either but honestly, I don't really like darkstalker either.

Darkstalker is my fav I loves him

I think They could have kept him the same, but restore him to his dragonet years, when he was just hatched maybe, and removed his animus magic and maybe another power, but he can still remember his past life, the good moments, with his mother, sister and Clearshight - I would have Liked it better this way

I agree, they made Darkstalker a version of the stupid page-waist that is Kinkajou. I guess that’s what happens when you leave the entire fate of Pyrrhia to the talons of a three-year-old RainWing, of COURSE she’s just gonna make another version of herself because she sees herself as “good”. I’m not gonna rant about Kinkajou anymore.

FINALLY! THANK YOU! To be honest I was crying a lot at the very end of Darkness of Dragons too. And I mean a lot. I don't really find Peacemaker cute AT ALL, the reasons why were stated in your video. Bad manners, attention seeking, it's just so FRUSTRATING. Another reason why I hate Peacemaker was that Darkstalker was my #1 favorite dragon, and we have the same reasons of loving him. Same with Peacemaker, except we have the same reasons of *hating* him instead. Seeing Darkstalker suddenly turn into a dragonet is just wrong for me. It never felt right. God, I *loathe* Peacemaker.

Well i wont say a hate or despise him. Yes darkstalker needed to be stopped but peacemaker is a new dragon...nothing like darkstalker. But i will respect your opinions. I also like darkstalker and im not afraid to say it. I also agree and i mean yes i do miss darkstalker.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who sympathizes with Darkstalker.

Eye-opening perspective. Nice video.

Honestly, while I love Wings of Fire, I feel Tui T. Sutherland wrote herself into a corner involving Darkstalker. Sure, he had good intentions, but he was more than willing to do villainous things to achieve those intentions. Talking him down wouldn't work, as even if they could talk past his stubbornness and willingness to find loopholes in the agreements he made, he's still got a nasty reputation to both IceWings and Nightwings that would be incredibly difficult for him to overcome, and would only tempt him to go back to his original plans of conquest. And to make matters worse, he was immortal and invulnerable thanks to his animus magic. While letting him die as himself would be nice, there's no way they'd be able to kill him conventionally. And even if they could find a way past his magic (like through using Turtle or Anenome), I don't feel Turtle, Moon, Quibli or Kinkajou had the stomach to kill someone; especially someone that clearly had good in him like Darkstalker did. I feel that Peacemaker was 'the alternative;' a way for them to 'defeat' Darkstalker while still retaining the pure aspect of heroism that Tui T. Sutherland wants her heroes to have. The same pure aspect that kept Clay from killing Fjord in Book 1, even though he's supposed to be the strongest of the Dragonets of Destiny. Now, am I saying that Peacemaker is a 'good' alternative. Not really. I can see why you wouldn't like him, especially in regards to who he used to be. Darkstalker was an amazingly well-rounded and interesting antagonist, and one that I was interested in seeing more of. But, from my own (limited) experiences as a writer, I can see how Tui T. Sutherland could come to the conclusion that Peacemaker was the best option for her story. But that's just the opinion of one fan. I appreciate you sharing your own opinion, and hope you have a wonderful day. Thank you for sharing. :)

So glad that I'm not the only one who felt bad for Darkstalker and Clearsight. Its been a few days since I've finished the book and I'm still heartbroken by that. For Darkstalker himself, I think that what made him probably not just the best villain, but also the best character is because of how it was written. He's an anti-villain. He has a lot of good qualities about him, like an actual hero, but at the same time his actions aren't always heroic and he can look rather villanous. Having him being turned into a child is not the main problem, the real problem is that they completely erased his memories, what made him the character that we love/hate, turning him into another character that lacks of any of his qualities. And how they turn him back into a baby? With a spell. Yeah, you know, those same mind-warping spells that usually leads people to hate Darkstalker? I find it so contradicting to the morals of the actual heroes, this would be like if Sunny or Clay started to murder any dragons that acts like a villain on the spot, instead of trying to find a peaceful alternative. I like this old saying, from a wise Dovah called Parthunaax: What is better ? to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort ?

I just wish he could’ve kept at least his half icewing instead of forcing him to be half rainwing

ok can someone explain why Peril wasn't there at the end of book 10. like in book 8 she was saying that getting rid of a dragons memories is horrible LIKE WHERE WAS SHE SHE COULD HAVE SAID THAT

My big issue is that all throughout the arc, there's the running theme that a dragon using magic to manipulate minds and bend others to their will is always abhorrent. Darkstaker might have been doing what he did for the "golden future" he saw for everyone, but the fact that he uses his power to force others onto his side whether they agree with him or not is always treated as crossing the line. When he essentially "breaks" Vulture to try and tempt Qibli to his side, it's treated as a horrific act, no matter how bad Vulture may have been. Even when Anemone casts a love spell over Kinkajou for Turtle, it's called out and treated as awful. And yet, that's exactly how they end up defeating Darkstalker, and without a hint of remorse or awareness of the irony.

i would disagree about Darkstalker, HE may have thought he was doing good and picking the best futures, but as he was told, the future of the Seven Tribes was NOT his to write, and in the end, he was only choosing the timelines that he liked, nothing more and nothing less. on the night that he hatched he had the opportunity to grant his sister the same powers he had, but no, he denied her, not allowing her to hatch on the Brightest Night. Moonwatcher and the others gave him a chance to do good, but his ultimate desire was not to help, but to RULE...he wanted control of every Tribe, he wanted to wipe out the IceWings, he very nearly DID wipe out the IceWings, and for petty little reasons. his every action was about his own wants and desires, perhaps he had a soft spot for Moon, and perhaps he was even telling the truth when he said it...but he was more than willing to enchant the entire population of dragons to like him just so he could rule the entire world...that is not a good dragon, that is not a kind dragon, that is a dictator and the worst kind of dictator, more than willing to use the bribe of special powers to build an army for himself after his little 'illness' failed...again, just to wipe out the IceWing Tribe, dragons who had done nothing to him, yet he still hated them simply because they were IceWings and that Tribe treated him poorly over a thousand years ago. he needed to be dealt with, but those closest to him still wanted to redeem him, yes, 'Darkstalker' died, but that doesnt make Peacemaker a bad option, his powers made him the way he was, made him think the way he did...he used his abilities selfishly because he could. he could not be allowed to keep them, the threat he posed was too great, i would argue, that it was Kinkajou who showed him mercy, every other dragon save for his mother, Moon and precious few others wanted him dead. and Kinkajou had more reason to kill him than most...yet she still showed mercy...

Hi! I haven't read Darkness of Dragons, or Darkstalker Legends. I just finished Moon Rising and I'm not sure what book I should read when I get up to Darkness of Dragons. Shall I read Darkstalker's book before Qibli's? I'm really confused! On the blurb it has Darkstalker's book before Qibli's XD

thank you you changed my look on darkstalker and peacemaker and i very much agree with you again thank you

Darkstalker: makes another dragon rip out his own organs Frozen gem: definitely not evil. For tribe Me: excuse me what the frick

Finally someone else who dislikes peace maker

I love your character it so good its AMAZING

I think that a better way for darkstalker to die would be to enchant the strawberry to just remove all of his spells so that he would disintegrate into dust. I would rather have him actually DIE than to just turn into peacemaker, a lil dragonet with 0% manners.

To be honest, I agree with you completely. When Darkstalker turned into Peacemaker I hated it so much 😂 I really want Darkstalker to come back or Peacemaker to remember “his” past. I just loved Darkstalker as his character and thought it was amazing to have a dragon like that :3 (Edit) I also think it was better off if Tui actually KILLED Darkstalker because (assuming Darkstalker is trapped inside of Peacemaker’s mind) basically the other dragons would’ve been making PEACEMAKER suffer the consequences of Darkstalker’s past and having all that inside his tiny dragonet mind.

I absoulotly agree with you I keep on telling my friends that I’m still sad about what Clearsight had to do. And when he was given a chance to be someone else he slowly forgets the person he loves his friends, family. And not only that but he thinks he is doing the right thing. So this is how I think the book should have ended with: Darkstalker was frozen he wasn’t sure what he should choose. But he knew in his heart that he still loved Clearsight and didn’t want to leave her. “No.” Darkstalker replied. “I thought you might have said that.” Moon said softly “Thats why we can do this. You keep your mind reading abbilities and memories of Clearsight but you will be a baby with a new name and whenever you want to return to your old self. You can but without your animus magic.” everyone looked at Moon shocked. Kinkajou slowly put the strawberry away while smiling like nothing was wrong. Darkstalker thought for a moment “Ok.” Darkstalker swept by to Moon asking her if he could return back to his normal self. She nodded and they flew together. As for Foeslayer she completley disguised herself as a new person. Qibli and Moon became a couple. And everyone was happy. Even though Darkstalker missed Clearsight so much. He still had his amazing friends and he was now a better person. The end Thats my opinion but I would love to hear yours :3 And as always StAy MiNtY

This is a really good video that's completely changed my mind about the second arc

I disagree fully. I love Peacemaker, and Peacemaker and Glory's dragonet (I haven't read the books in a while, so I'm not sure if she and Deathbringer are mates) could be Night/Rain buddies!

I don't like Peacemaker, I hate him, I miss Darkstalker. He was only trying to end wars and make the continent greater, and his beloved betrayed him as well as his best friend.

Oof. I like your Opinion, but I despise Darkstalker. I love how it’s different and completely new. I understand you like him, I just needa vent XD. Darkstalker... I find him the most evil dragon in the entire of Pyrrhia. He never deserved a fate in any way. I’m on Arctic’s side on this. It wasn’t Arctic’s fault that he turned cruel. Darkstalker... He... it was his own fault he lost all his powers and turned into a stupid rainbow lookin Dragonet. If he didn’t exist then neither would the HiveWings. Clearsight most likely would’ve stayed with her Tribe and made an entire tribe who later killed almost an entire species and enslaved half of my species. Darkstalker was apart of Pantala’s Fate. If he never existed and was killed, then books 11, 12, and the epilogue of Book 10 wouldn’t have happened. Therefore No such thing as Tree Wars, and no such Hong as the Monstrous Queen Wasp Who in my opinion is not even close to the Evil of Scarlet, Blister, Burn, Chameleon, Vulture, and Darketalker. Okay most likely done venting XD

I go with the " Hello I'm shad and I'm here to get revenge on irene type thing" he's not lost just conserving and trying to get out or trying affect peacemakers subconscious to possibly get a magic earring. But it's just my opinion.

I’m a little late but I personally don’t believe that Tui is done with Darkstalker yet that’s why she made him a dragonet

I've mentioned my love for darkstalker in previous comments so ya. for some weird reason the villains in the WOF story appeal to me more than the protagonist usually do, I have multiple favorite characters (duh) so I can't just pick one... But I love Queen Scarlet. She is one of my favorite characters! And blister, blisters grade 2. Basically what I'm trying to say is... I FEEL y'a girl!!!!! (I thought that interaction with Peacemaker and the mud pie was weird 2)

I think it was a good idea in theory but they didnt just turn him back into himself but a baby, they just turned him into a whole new dragon. They shouldve kept his personality or his memories or something but it just feels like Tui wanted him gone as fast as possible so we could move on to the next arc

Darkstalker was brought into the world with too much power to handle. It took away his chance of just being happy, and not craving for power and convincing himself that it was his destiny to change the world. Anyone would have felt the same way in his position. Peacemaker was Darkstalker’s second chance, a REAL chance, of just being a dragon. A dragon that wasn’t born with too much power to know what to do with. A dragon that can live a happy childhood with no one expecting unbelievable things from him anymore or fearing that he will do you unbelievable things. I believe that this was the perfect fate for him.

I agree that it was a pretty tragic and twisted end to a very sad and well made character but I don't think there was any other choice. Darkstalker made himself immortal so they couldn't kill him but if they let him live he would only harm more dragons. I think making him a dragonet was an okay idea though I suppose they could have probably tried a few other things like using the same trick to strip him of his abilities. I fell that stripping him of his ability's would not be enough though they would have to undo all enchantments on him and I don't know for sure if that would be possible.