Why I HATE Revolution Beauty - Alleged Racism, Stealing And Much More

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Why I HATE Revolution Beauty - Alleged Racism, Stealing And Much More

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In this video, I am sharing my personal opinions on Revolution Beauty and why I no longer talk about or purchase their products. We'll discuss all the accusations of racism, stealing from small indie brands, influencer brands and more that have been levied against the company.
I'm sharing my personal opinion in the hope that you'll be able to make an informed decision about whether or not to shop with this company.
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@JamesWelsh Жыл бұрын

This article may answer some peoples questions about why the Instagram user said they’ll only be buying the Rock And Roll Beauty Jimi Hendrix collection, if it were black owned. And why they had an aversion to a company, owned by two white men, making money from Jimi Hendrix’s image: theleaflet.org/home-1/black-owned-businesses

@baldeagle1171 Жыл бұрын

It's literally because they're racist. Not hard, if skin folk are all kin folk. You might be racist.

@lorimoore5589 Жыл бұрын

Are you saying the person who won't buy the Jimi Hendrix palette is racist or the white guys making money off that palette are racist? Or both?

@baldeagle1171 Жыл бұрын

@@lorimoore5589 if your only objection is the owners are white. You're a racist. If you're root objection is skin color. The article is a long winded apologetics for it. I buy product in spite of the color of the ceos skin color.

@JenniferMo Жыл бұрын

@@lorimoore5589 was wondering the same

@InvisibleRen Жыл бұрын

@@lorimoore5589 Neither. He’s linking an article that gives perspective on why someone would make the choice to support Black-owned business versus white-owned.

@JamesWelsh Жыл бұрын

I say this at the very end of the video so I’ll just pin it here. This is of course my own opinion going by what we know of the brand. Being able to pick skincare based on your own beliefs rather than affordability and accessibility is a privilege many don’t have. If Revolution Beauty is the best option for you for any reason, continue to use it. I know they make dupes of brands that aren’t available in certain parts of the world so that’s another reason to keep using if it works for you.

@emilyblenn Жыл бұрын

Allegedly in my opinion, James is the best skincare creator with the most sincere, honest, bs-free content. Allegedly. In my opinion.

@arachne4070 Жыл бұрын

@@emilyblenn correct

@alittleoddme1940 Жыл бұрын

No accessibility is a privilege but it's like when She Glam makeup line just became cruelty free I roll my eyes. I can choose other brands That aren't as terrible because I'm privileged Can also choose not to pay for revolution.

@blackdog9071 Жыл бұрын

I agree with the sentiment but not necessarily the statement, I think there are plenty of companies that make products that are similar and an option could be found if the desire is there. I really love and appreciate the mention of availability and financial barriers because we need to keep that in mind when discussing ethics of who we buy from however I think that discussion is better placed for necessities like clothing. I think there is a privilege in both sides, it is a privilege to not care about a company, who they support and their beliefs and it is also a privilege to have the ability to walk away and choose something else. I really loved the way you handled this I don't want to sound inflammatory or attacking :) It's just an additional thought I had x

@thicc_astley Жыл бұрын

@@blackdog9071 that’s a good point! there’s privilege in being able to buy revolution not solely because it’s all you can afford, but also from not being one of the people or groups of people affected by their actions. there’s a very wobbly line between the privilege of being able to boycott and the privilege of being able to ignore what they’re doing

@lauragough1578 Жыл бұрын

I remember when they launched their copies of The Ordinary's iconic serums and treatments I thought it was dishonest - there's absolutely no need for 'dupes' at The Ordinary's price points, they're just cashing in

@jadeypeach Жыл бұрын

They literally charged MORE than The Ordinary. That audacity! 🫠

@msk-qp6fn Жыл бұрын

Especially since their "dupes" of the ordinary products arent even lower in price than the ordinary's products

@crankypantsmcduff Жыл бұрын

The Ordinary has changed my face, well worth it and its really well priced.

@alexandracehic3595 Жыл бұрын

@@jadeypeach Didn’t they copy Good Molecules also? Like the mixed TO and GM in one ripoff. I might be wrong tho.

@nusaibahibraheem8183 Ай бұрын

The Ordinary charge my country far more so am glad I can buy from revolution. Also may brands duped the ordinary, including Revox, inkey list etc.

@tammyalspaugh Жыл бұрын

Revolution Beauty is the SHEIN of the beauty industry

@Ash.Sean.Taylor Жыл бұрын

@dee Apart from Shein have ripped off Jordana Ticia

@GoblnQwn Жыл бұрын

Omg I commented the same thing before I ever saw this. It's so true

@CordeliaWagner Жыл бұрын

SHEIN's business modell is stealing ideas.

@livialynnlynn Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think that upset shein so now they have sheglam to come get their crown back. 😂

@BAt4BrAinZ Жыл бұрын

Except Shein actually has SheGlam now which is exactly what you said. ReVoL 💄 meets Shein. It’s exactly as bad as you would except….Another fast fashion, IP collecting, cheap affiliations, alleged racism and actual in practice and branding bias, IP and artwork thieving , WASTEFUL af 🖕🏽 ♻️ practices & policies …. & on & on & on. Truly devastating. 💔 ✌🏽 + 💜

@aimeeduff8000 Жыл бұрын

I remember when they copied Manny’s highlighter packaging and they “removed” it from their site and agreed not to sell it anymore YET they left it on Ulta and other retailers sites!

@x.Kristen.x Жыл бұрын

I remember this too! It was a literal copy of his highlighter and he said it was custom soooo how did they get it? There’s some real shady stuff going on with them.

@CherrrrBear Жыл бұрын

Yes the moon prism ones! Same exact packaging

@aimeeduff8000 Жыл бұрын

@@x.Kristen.x I feel like they have a department set up just to recreate other brands custom packaging! It’s so weird how they always copy things exactly to a T!

@x.Kristen.x Жыл бұрын

@@aimeeduff8000 They probably do! They probably look for new launches of different brands on social media and whatever does good they copy.

@KittyCat260 Жыл бұрын

That's actually down to those other retailers to remove the product. This isn't a defence of Revolution, but in this case you have a bunch of retailers who have a certain amount of units of this product already in stock and they're not necessarily going to pull it just because the brand does. That's a loss for them. So the other retailers are to blame for continuing to sell that product and its basically just because they don't want to lose out as a result.

@Ren-wh6kw Жыл бұрын

The dupe talk is so true. I loved when a dupe ( makeup-wise I guess since thats where I’m more knowledgeable ) is something to the extent of “look, this product is cheaper but you can get the same color payoff or colors!” But the dupe or product itself had a unique idea or design. They were different from eachother. There’s a difference between copy and dupe 👏🏼👏🏼

@0ctoPop Жыл бұрын

The difference between a dupe and what Revolution does is that a dupe is copying the effect, and Revolution is copying the 𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒂. They're interested in the objects not the results. Like their copying Manny's highlighters wasn't about making a highlighter that gave the same effect on your skin, they wanted a highlighter that looked like you bought it from Lunar Beauty. The products aren't dupes, they're replicas. Like a fake Chanel bag with the name spelled Chanal so it's not technically illegal.

@LilyMcdurmont Жыл бұрын

As someone with almost no big brand selling in their country and with most brands having no international shipping. Revolution is our only option.

@kagitsune Жыл бұрын

"Fake Chanel bag" is SUCH a good analogy, omg.

@jojoodonnell365 Жыл бұрын

The last thing you said about if this is the one of the only brands that’s accessible or affordable for yourself- was the most inclusive and respectful thing I’ve had an influencer say! Love how realistic and down to earth you and the videos you create are ❤️

@Celanna192 Жыл бұрын

The price point is sadly the biggest issue that keeps fast fashion in business. Most people can't afford to spend $50 - $100 per item for decent quality clothing. Now it's getting to the point where higher end fast fashion is outside of affordability for a lot of people(Target, H&M, etc.). As far as Revolution goes, I'm glad I haven't accidentally bought something to support them. Kind of sad that BH got bought by them since they had some cute, metallic eyeshadows.

@albuszx Жыл бұрын

Revolution doesn't sell in my country, but once I was in a UK-based web shop researching the price of The Ordinary products, and Revolution had a "dupe" of every single TO formula. It baffled me, because TO isn't an expensive brand at all! And the "dupes" were the same price as the originals! It all makes sense now, ty James

@msk-qp6fn Жыл бұрын

It's usually at the same or higher price points honestly

@AnnafromHungarylvNW 11 ай бұрын

I used both but I actually prefer the Revolution ones. Unpopular opinion, but I find that their quality is better / suits my skin more.

@eccentricbooknerd Жыл бұрын

I have never used Revolution and i will continue that trend. This makes me so upset.

@badgalpandamanda Жыл бұрын

Same. The got perfume but I’m good on that tho smh

@CatMom7 Жыл бұрын

Same!!! They are such vultures 😒

@nat-coffeebat Жыл бұрын

the only time i ever used them was when i was like 13 and just starting makeup, and fell for their ripoff of the chocolate bar palette 😭😭 i felt so duped when i realized i had paid a lot for a bad ripoff, and the quality was horrific. never bought from them again.

@disgruntledmoderate5331 Жыл бұрын

I am so used to both James and Robert referring to Loreal as Laurel in the twin videos that I was startled when James actually called it Loreal.

@Emfredka Жыл бұрын

This!

@Rain_Reign Жыл бұрын

Thank 👏🏻 you 👏🏻 James! 👏🏻 There are so many of us out here trying to make sure our dollars don’t go to a*holes, and this video helps a lot! 💜

@wolvie1618 Жыл бұрын

I try to avoid supporting bad businesses, so you can only imagine my horror to find out that I own several eyeshadow pallettes by them 😭😭 It's a real shame because I actually quite like the collab pallette they did with Coca-Cola, they have some really pretty shimmer shadows that I couldn't find elsewhere

@solveigw Жыл бұрын

Revolution Beauty is the "5 minute crafts" of makeup and skin care...

@livialynnlynn Жыл бұрын

😂 such a good comparison

@fattychoccie Жыл бұрын

@@livialynnlynn i was just going to reply to say the same thing!! Can't believe i havent thought of that before now 😂 Serious question though - why and how are they still popular? I just don't get it.

@thicc_astley Жыл бұрын

to me they’re like the Aldi of skincare. making products just close enough in appearance that people will see revolution as a direct cheap alternative, but also so they don’t get sued by the original brand lol

@lja530 Жыл бұрын

@@thicc_astley Aldi products are usually really good quality at least here in Germany. That's not always the case with the products from Revolution, from what I hear.

@thicc_astley Жыл бұрын

@@lja530 yeah, when i compare the two i don’t mean in terms of quality! i mean because aldi often gets as close to imitating brands as possible in terms of their packaging and revolution does the same lol

@Nys_15 Жыл бұрын

I've always refused to buy from them because of the copying (plus their products are cheap and nasty) but I had no idea about the racism. That's infuriating. Hope this reaches a lot of people!

@marge1112 Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t racist the black person only wanting black owned was racist 🤣

@Fimpurities Жыл бұрын

@@marge1112 ok Marge.

@marge1112 Жыл бұрын

@@Fimpurities I am right , but you woke lot are so hypocritical

@Fimpurities Жыл бұрын

@@marge1112 lmao sure

@marge1112 Жыл бұрын

@@Fimpurities it’s true , cry some more over that Saint George Floyd

@PollyW326 Жыл бұрын

I was so angry on Manny’s behalf when I saw their rip off component! Also I just ordered Pink Honey to support her. I needed a brow product like that anyway so perfect timing. ❤

@amber7ison Жыл бұрын

I ordered a bunch of Makeup Revolution Simpsons Halloween stuff & I was definitely underwhelmed. I didn't know anything about the company- thank you for sharing this info!

@zeealo Жыл бұрын

Mate, me too! I got the collection because I love The Simpsons, but the products themselves are definitely pretty ordinary..

@bethg9991 Жыл бұрын

I have used revolution products for years (mid teens to now), I have personally not had any issues with their products and their prices kept me coming back for more as when I had tried more expensive brands, I found their quality was actually worse or atleast it didn’t do so good for my skin anyway, and I don’t have the disposable wages to buy more expensive products. However I also wasn’t aware of the moral issues as I don’t really keep up with beauty brands online and stuff, but this video is definitely an eye opener and I will never buy from them again. I learn so much from James and Robert and I am forever changing my skin care and makeup techniques for the better.

@emmieladaisy Жыл бұрын

Such a shame, I was going to order the olaplex dupes for Christmas presents from the haircare range as they are more affordable but I'm in doubt now so really lessens choice for ppl like me on a Normal working class wage. As you said at the end, it's difficult to make these decisions if you don't have the option but thank you for highlighting this xx

@aff77141 Жыл бұрын

I say there's no shame in buying something so long as you know what's behind the scenes, some people can afford to put their money where their mouth is while others may prefer or have to go other routes to protest a companies actions

@Sarah-tonin Жыл бұрын

The problem with dupes when it comes to skincare and hair products is that the ingredients are often v different! Olaplex's major ingredient is still under a patent so Revolution's version likely just has similar packaging

@emmieladaisy Жыл бұрын

@@Sarah-tonin yes, I'm not sure whether to just get my sister no3 and take the quality over quantity 🤔

@archeosr85 Жыл бұрын

Same here, they are the best and cheapest bond repair on the market, tried the inkey list's spray but it doesn't quite deliver, I hate it but until I can afford better I stick to it. Voting with your money is a great concept, when you actually have more than a shoestring budget

@TheRealSherBear Жыл бұрын

Sally’s makes olaplex dupes called Bond, I believe.

@lunarlionlilith Жыл бұрын

Thank you SO much for always being open and honest about how you truly feel about certain brands! I've seen way too many beauty influencers pretend that they like a product so they can get clout and free products! I LOVE your channel and I LOVE you!! 💜💜💜

@beardmcweird5667 Жыл бұрын

as a person that worked for RB for a long time, literally everything this guy says is just points the media have picked up on to create a story out of almost nothing. just twisted bs to create drama, adam is a ledge.. chill ur beans

@Heretopaint Жыл бұрын

It’s less obvious if they copy small Indy brands. The repercussions are also smaller if they get called out. We appreciate you bringing these issues to light for those unaware. Keep spreading the word! 💜

@JaimeLeighArt Жыл бұрын

I loved how you wrapped this video up! There are so many (me included from time to time) who can only base purchases on what is available and affordable at the time - or who already purchased it and can’t afford to waste the product now. Thank goodness there are starting to be way more affordable good products so people don’t feel like they have to compromise their values just to be able to buy what seems like fun or nice products!

@memnailss Жыл бұрын

Speak on it! After learning one bad thing after another about Revolution, I made the switch to e.l.f and haven't looked back. Really appreciate you using your platform to shed light on a brand that most of the industry keep making excuses for.

@mainly_mal Жыл бұрын

E.l.f. Is so bomb i can’t even

@nicolemontalvo4560 Жыл бұрын

I just tried their Holy Hydration Makeup Cleansing Balm & I absolutely love it! I'm trying to be more mindful of spending to save money where I can & after using the Clean It Zero balm for a long time I honestly like the e.l.f one better!

@xoxorosequartz Жыл бұрын

elf is amazing

@lolablake9196 Жыл бұрын

Yes e.l.f is amazing just not globally available.

@PC1989 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for calling them out! They are garbage, junk. I don't think I've ever bought a product from them, but now I make sure to go out of my way to avoid them and their sub-brands. Too bad for BH Cosmetics. :(

@sydgallup338 Жыл бұрын

I’m so sad about BH, I love their highlighters and palettes.

@yennefer440 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I have 😭. I usually buy their dupe for Glossier's cloud paint but I'll have to look somewhere else now.

@nat-coffeebat Жыл бұрын

@@yennefer440 if you're looking for dupes for that i can really recommend colourpop's cheek dew! it has a more dewy/glassy finish than cloud paint but i personally really like it, and it's very affordable. ^^

@AnnafromHungarylvNW 11 ай бұрын

So how do you know it's junk if you never bought anything from them?

@vicl5891 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for highlighting Pink Honey. I never knew Revolution Beauty is the makeup equivalent of fast fashion. I decided to check out Pink Honey. I have to say, the honey glue is one the best brow products I’ve tried!

@Maggie_mccann Жыл бұрын

It took a lot for me to click this video bc I genuinely LOVE their eye shadow pallets. I honestly never have gotten this good quality for walmart price. But after reading the title, I sadly clicked the video and stopped supporting them. I will use up what I have, I hate waste and will stop buying. Also I ever since the whole beauty community debacle in 2020, I have stopped paying attention to drama with people and companies, so thank you for informing me.

@eileenconway2966 Жыл бұрын

Juvia’s place has amazing pallets and they’re really reasonably priced. They’re a bit more than the revolution palettes, but the quality is eons better.

@allykath2801 Жыл бұрын

@@eileenconway2966 agree!! Much better brand to support

@theroyalbugness Жыл бұрын

@Eileen Conway unfortunately the owner of juvia's place said some racist slur to an Asian person online? I can't remember the exact platform, if it was a live feed or a comment. I don't support juvia's place after finding that out sadly ☹️

@chickensalad3535 8 ай бұрын

@@eileenconway2966The owner is very unethical

@yumi_christina_masaki Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much James. I used to love their chocolate themed palettes and highlighters but recently I’ve been underwhelmed by them more and more… I really started having doubts at the brand ever since they started copying literally every Huda Beauty product (even the 3 nudes 9-pan palettes!! And Mercury Retrograde!!! So shameless and obvious) and even the Ordinary skincare. I wish they’d come out with fun products like the mermaid highlighter and the fruit-themed blushes again though.

@verzrc2772 Жыл бұрын

When Revolution launched their first hit product was a dupe for the too faced chocolate bar palette, so it makes sense they've gotten worse, it's still a shock though!

@katfayegarrett3872 Жыл бұрын

I had no idea about Revolutions nasty ways! Only thing I ever purchased is an eyeshadow palette, not for the colors or the brand. It's packaging is a colorful weed plant theme that is just too cool. The shadows are each embossed with a little weed plant. It's truly awesome. And, thanks for putting in that bit at the end about not shaming ppl if they do purchase. Thx❤️🖤

@AdeselnaDavies Жыл бұрын

I love the Soph's collabs! They are the best eyeshadows I have used and I have an ABH palette that underperforms next to Soph's pallets. The TammiX palette also is amazing, I haven't bought anything from there for ages because I love these products and they haven't released anything similar ever since :/

@katzolitamason6729 Жыл бұрын

Yes they are!!

@brookenchambers Жыл бұрын

This content is so needed. I don’t research every brand I buy because I have little time to do so. I realized during this video how important it is to see how our money as consumers is being used and what to do if it doesn’t align with my values.

@inkeri2741 Жыл бұрын

Honestly I’m sad that they’re so problematic bc they have amazing products for cheap prices. Their concealer is only one that has ever worked for my under eyes

@terimorris6394 Жыл бұрын

In my case the concealer is the first and last product i bought from them, I thought it was horrible dry and cakey looked like plaster. Also the shades are ridiculous they don’t make sense.

@sageandbone Жыл бұрын

The amount of collabs and products Revolution throw out every single week is shocking. Definitely fast fashion status of makeup. And their products are very average. I'd rather spend a little more on another brand. Also, I love the Pink Honey eyebrow pots. No one makes it like they do! Definitely worth the money

@LakeGael Жыл бұрын

Second comment, but I really, REALLY admire people who have platforms who acknowledge that while fast fashion and other equivalent industries are awful, it's also a privileged experience to be able to choose not to buy from those companies. A lot of KZfaqrs I follow for historical fashion harp and HARP on this subject and especially on shein, and then fail to recognize that they're privileged to be able to choose to not spend money on those cheaper products. It's classist and annoying that so few people who have platforms actually mention that.

@kisikisikisi Жыл бұрын

A really good video, once again. When I started watching youtube back in the michelle phan days, a dupe was something that performed similarly to some iconic product without necessarily having even been created for that purpose. Trends will always exist and brands will always try to create their own version of the thing that is popular, amd that is fine. What drives me insane is blatant copying. Whether it's Revolution or Alter Ego, I just don't respect a brand that rips off other people's designs and concepts. Not exactly surprised that a brand that doesn't respect other people's creations is problematic in other ways, too. It's a question of morals and Revolution is lacking it.

@shylavender Жыл бұрын

I haven’t bought from them in over 2 years. I was so disgusted by so many things that I’d heard and seen (the racism, the copying…), and the fact that - like you said - they just pump out the same old sh*t, the exact same boring old palettes with the same old boring colour stories, just with different artwork slapped on the packaging. Yet people still lap it up?! 🤨 It’s literally the exact same as every other palette release they do lol there’s NOTHING NEW!?

@jessielallier9483 Жыл бұрын

I do remember the Manny MUA thing, he made a video about it, I felt disappointed for him because he had made this super cool compact design and Revolution didn't even try to pretend theirs was any different.

@EnchantingWings1 Жыл бұрын

On Sunday, they have released. A video about marshmallow sponges they're releasing. Coco Cosmetics by Chloe have put out a statement about Revolution's blatant copy and many of her supporters have left comments on the video, alerting Chloe about Revolution copying her. It's so, so sad.

@ktd2002uk Жыл бұрын

Finally someone with a large platform shining light on what us OG Revoholics have known for years. This company is awful and owners have no morals.

@nicky2011 Жыл бұрын

Thank you James so much for this video. I've bought one palette in my life from them and it was s***! After that I never paid much attention to the brand and every time I would see it in ulta I didn't even give it a second glance. But after seeing your video about them it makes me so angry that they have to go after small indie brands that I totally support and always will. And mostly what really angered me is the racism that does not stand well with me at all and never ever will. As someone mixed with multiple nationalities as well as my children that just makes me sick to my stomach and it hurts my feelings not just for me but others as well. And the CEO really sucks. Eventually that company will go to s*** and hopefully will close it's doors for good with their dirty hands. Again thank you for this video💙💙

@jen7916 Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for the creators that have done makeup collabs with revolution….hopefully consumers won’t associate them with the shady shit Revolution does

@GuiltyBears Жыл бұрын

I had this same thing on the mind. Luckily it seems like the skincare/beauty community is quite fair about these sorts of things. If they know the content creator (and lets be honest there are so many colabs) it seems like people are surprisingly fair.

@NoMnOmJeSs16 Жыл бұрын

@Roxxsaurus springs to mind - hope she reconsiders her association with them!

@Roxxjehh Жыл бұрын

@@NoMnOmJeSs16 and sophdoeslife

@jen7916 Жыл бұрын

@@NoMnOmJeSs16 yes and Sophdoeslife as well. She’s done a couple or more collabs with them

@Lisa-mw6te 10 ай бұрын

I bought the two pallets by my favorite content creator, Emily Noell. They were quite good.

@marianne6373 Жыл бұрын

Thank your for this video! I recently bought something from them for the first time in probably ten years, and a few days later I found out about the racism. Ugh. But almost no one is talking about it!

@RichLux713 Жыл бұрын

I think I had to disagree with you when you said revolution beauty we don’t know who they are. I think that we know exactly who they are. They’re a brand that is fast fashion copies whatever is in at that moment whether it’s big box, movies, or small indie brands they’re going to copy it at a lesser price that is who they are. They have shown us that’s who they are revolution. Beauty is like the cockroach of the beauty community.

@terireyes1127 Жыл бұрын

I ordered duplicates of their skin care and when I opened it a couple months later, it was rancid. I had to throw out several bottles.

@jodilynn9514 Жыл бұрын

Poor baby! Ugh my heart hurts for her! You can SEE how devastated she is. I live in the USA and have NO brows but I will buy HER honey glue! 🥰 If I’m buying a product from L’Oréal, idc who’s making it but if I’m buying from a small business, than yes i do, hence the reason I’d buy from Olivia before revolution

@Slap_Pappy Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know they bought BH !! Nooo they were one of my favorite brands for cheap eyeshadow palettes lol. The weekend festival palette was my go to for YEARS

@kcototheyoyoyo Жыл бұрын

Same. I used to love their lipsticks but I guess it’s all the same

@sarahmcb767 Жыл бұрын

When they first launched they err affordable, interesting and modern compared to the rest of drug store products. Now they remind me last minute Christmas gifts, the ones you used to get in BHS back in the day. They’re still affordable but not. Even worth the low price point

@claudiaguadalupeguadapuff Жыл бұрын

American living in Japan, and I love Pink Honey! I stumbled upon them through a KZfaq video, and I’ve been hooked.

@phishy.x Жыл бұрын

They're also ripping off customers. Their customer service is an absolute joke. So many people can't get ahold of anyone. They take your money and ignore you. I wish I saw this video weeks ago.

@bethlovesthings Жыл бұрын

Wow thank you so much for this video, I rarely buy beauty products (but when I do, I buy like ten things at once). Revolution are always available at my local chemist and they have had some cute collabs with some franchises that do appeal to me. I had literally been looking at some of their stuff early last week. I usually do the research before I click the "buy" button and not when browsing so you have honestly saved me research time as well. 💖

@lolabloo Жыл бұрын

I have a Revolution palette that I want to get rid of so bad but I already bought it and don't want to be wasteful... but I also don't want to use it anymore 😭

@DumiNihi Жыл бұрын

Revolution used to be my go to but I've recently been discovering some affordable indie brands that offer the same stuff. The only thing still keeping me is their settings sprays

@bethg9991 Жыл бұрын

I still use their setting spray too

@AKbaby89 Жыл бұрын

To anyone saying that telling someone to go back to their country isn't racist, there's literally a term for this specific type of insult/person, it's called xenophobia, and it's a specific type of racism. Please educate yourselves before telling someone to go back to their country, or go to Africa if you want to support the Black community.

@sylvia_golightly Жыл бұрын

I agree.. that was definitely a stupid thing to say but I honestly don't understand the original comment. Why comment if this isn't this, I'm not buying it?.. And why is that making some kind of statement? Im not trying to be combative I just really don't get it.

@AKbaby89 Жыл бұрын

@@sylvia_golightly I didn't make the original comment, I can't tell you what they meant?

@LauralHill77 Жыл бұрын

@@sylvia_golightly short answer is that a lot of people think it's pretty unfair for white people to benefit from the images of black people, especially when black owned businesses struggle with unfair lending practices etc. James pinned a link to alonger one up top tho.

@streamologistrachel8783 Жыл бұрын

Ok so I needed this because I just kept hearing that people hated them and couldn’t ascertain why. Thanks for lifting the lid good sir!

@hellEna1 Жыл бұрын

So glad to see that social media power and voices like yours are helping reveal scams like them.

@thenerrdpit7441 Жыл бұрын

and that's why you're the only skinfluencer i follow. bc even when you are doing an ad, i know you truly care about what/who you promote. much love..

@claireemilycook Жыл бұрын

ily James we love beauty with ethics

@manifestationsofasort Жыл бұрын

Yesss

@Laura-tp2jl Жыл бұрын

I would like to add, they ripped off another small business (us based) called Youthforia. Specifically their color changing blush oil, which was the first of its kind.

@Ashley-mq2vd Жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing this to our attention! I'd never want to support a brand like this and might not have found out. ❤️

@starfire4030 Жыл бұрын

Revolution downfall, I used to pray for times like this

@CordeliaWagner Жыл бұрын

To which of the 15.000 known gods?

@TayshaBruno Жыл бұрын

I was literally just doing the dishes while watching this video and felt the urge to do my skincare because I always do my routines with James on the background. His content proves that perfection does exists. ✨💜

@MishezzieMay Жыл бұрын

I get it, but honestly, I doubt any of the owners of any successful cosmetic brand are legit, ethical or likeable. CEO's don't have a reputation of being the "good guys". . . . .

@MekuChanAnime Жыл бұрын

When you talk about dupes, you have to consider that those indie brand will never be sold on countries outside of north America, so people from latin America or Europe don't really have much choice but to buy their dupes and, hard as it sounds, are /really/ affordable and good copies.

@espeon871 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, i hope there's a platform who stocks these brands like a sephora for indie brands

@veronicaivanova Жыл бұрын

I have never heard of Pink Honey, although I live in the UK, but I assume it's because I don't use this type of lash product. It's heartbreaking to see how a big brand steals from small brands who have put their heart and savings to create a business. I hope they have trademarked it or relied on another IP right to prevent this copy paste of their products or at least to be able to defend their work in court.

@Lilo-A Жыл бұрын

I’ve always thought Revolution Beauty was a company based on making dupes.

@themischief420 Жыл бұрын

same tbh

@junoxmusic Жыл бұрын

damn, i didn't know it was THIS bad. It's such a shame that i can't find a different foundation and concealer shade that matches my skin as well as theirs do :/ i think i rly need to start searching again 😪 but budget is also a factor

@tealleavitt182 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I finally found a decent full coverage foundation and concealer that match me pretty well for a decent price, and I refuse to go back to Maybelline. I don’t even know where I would start to search

@nics9655 Жыл бұрын

Try Milani 2in1, most big boots stores stock this

@KittyCat260 Жыл бұрын

I truly hate Revolution but unfortunately I'm one of those people who has no choice but to buy certain items from them. They're the only affordable brand that I can get super pale pink undertone foundation and concealer from, which thankfully last a decent amount of time so I don't have to repurchase too often. I won't buy any of their other products at all but until someone brings out a just as cheap, just as colour matched foundation for me, I'm stuck with them.

@JamesWelsh Жыл бұрын

If it’s accessible to you and it’s the only place you can get the product that suits you then keep buying it! The CEO has officially stepped down now so I’m hoping there may be a lot of changes!

@KittyCat260 Жыл бұрын

@@JamesWelsh I do hope that will make a difference but I'm not sure if they'll really change their practices as a result... It might just be a case of changing the face for the sake of changing the reputation. Hopefully not and they'll make some effort in future to be a brand with more to offer than they do now.

@teri2466 Жыл бұрын

This is a big reason why I love you & Robert. You're not afraid to call out anything unethical & immoral. 🖤💜

@Loopykittystar Жыл бұрын

I just don't understand how they can reel off loads of collabs in such a short period of time!!

@joannethomas2655 Жыл бұрын

They repackage the same products for their collabs too. The palettes from the GOT collection were all ready available on the website but they just added the GOT theming and made it more expensive

@BarbaraT. Жыл бұрын

I feel so sorry for the Pink Honey owner. She was genuinely distressed, and understandably so. Down with Revolution Beauty!

@SuperDrLisa Жыл бұрын

I hope she patented her product!

@sabzxy Жыл бұрын

As a broke person who is currently 8 minutes into the video, their BHA dupe of paulas choice is amazing, honestly I think this is where these companies like beauty bay, revolution and beauty pie thrive. They make exact copies but more affordable because it shouldn't cost that much for a consumer, and lets face it the price tag on brands are just getting more and more out of hand. However, I was not aware about this reputation, glad you brought it to light. I am disappointed, but unfortunately, I'll probably still continue to buy their dupes simply because it is affordable. If anyone has any recommendations for alternatives, please let me know 🙏🏼😔

@LauralHill77 Жыл бұрын

Peach Slices

@lisalep Жыл бұрын

Me too. I've never owned a Huda beauty, Jeffree Star or all the other high end make up products. The best pallets I own are revolution actually the only pallets I own are revolution lol. This is disappointing but it's all I can afford. Buying a Huda beauty eyeshadow palette would be a week's worth of gas and electric in my house x

@sunscreenhoarder6558 Жыл бұрын

@@LauralHill77 not accessible in the UK. It’s extremely expensive to ship their stuff over.

@sabzxy Жыл бұрын

@@lisalep Yea literally. I do like the beauty bay eye shadow palettes though, they're affordable and really pigmented, I personally prefer them to revolution.

@lisalep Жыл бұрын

@@sabzxy yeah I've been looking at beauty bay quite a lot recently there stuff is pretty reasonable. I also like the look of there skincare. I shop a lot on Vinted don't know if you've heard of it, and a lot of beauty bay stuff is sold on there very cheap aswell x

@Life-vu5te Жыл бұрын

I am just curious in case of copying products because I have seen a lot of cases like this in past. I mean when does it become stealing a design/product and replicating it and when is it a dupe? And why is one hated and the other is loved. Not trying to defend this brand, simply have nothing to do with them.

@Amy-Nicole Жыл бұрын

Keep doing what you're doing James!! Also your skin looks exceptionally glowing and beautiful!

@Tangobutton Жыл бұрын

I just tossed my Emily Wants palette from Revolution. Was so tired of fighting with it only to make the same muddy looks time and time again. I hope Emily Noel can pair up with a decent company sometime, like Colourpop.

@LaurasWorld13 Жыл бұрын

I decided to stop buying Revolution products months ago - thank you for making this video.

@Replicaate Жыл бұрын

Pity, they just popped up in my drugstore here and I really liked the look of their 9-colour shadow palettes (never bought tho, I'm a bit overloaded at the moment). Guess I'll stick w my Colourpop addiction for now when it comes to sparkly crap to smear on my face.

@donnaroberts281 Жыл бұрын

Colourpop is better quality anyway.

@sallyfrench007 Жыл бұрын

If it's any consolation the formulas of their eyeshadows are wildly variable, to put it kindly. I had a couple of palettes and some of the colours were genuinely very well pigmented, not terrible fallout, but some were very gritty and bland. Utterly pot luck which!

@victorshopov4913 Жыл бұрын

Also some of y'all are missing the point completely of the lady saying that she won't buy the collection unless it's from a black-owned brand. The legacy of this legendary artist is being reduced to a fast fashion-esque makeup palette (what does Jimi have to do with it in the first place?), made by a white-owned brand that has an obviously racist CEO. Jimi is such an iconic pioneer of black music, and you do not have to be black to recognize that this is just insulting to his image.

@jojomarch Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree

@Deannanune Жыл бұрын

The Conceal & Define Concealer had its moment in 2016-2017? But, that's the only product I think that ever really took off for them lol.

@nicolamoir8839 Жыл бұрын

The Elf camo concealers are so much better, similarly priced and a whole lot less problematic. 😊

@katzolitamason6729 Жыл бұрын

And I think the conceal and Define foundation is even better! I’ve moved over to the Elf camo concealer now too!

@patriciabonifaz4736 Жыл бұрын

I am going to London next week and I was going to buy some Revolution skin care...so this video was just in time!! Thanks James!!!

@blackdog9071 Жыл бұрын

There's such a privilege in not having to care or having the choice to not care about brands and what they support - so many companies fund homophobic or transphobic organisations. Obviously you'll care about racism if you face it everyday, and people should care. It is a privilege to not. ❤️

@ksmiles27 Жыл бұрын

I totally agree about the dupes. They did a recent collab with Sali Hughes and according to her it was made with lots of input from her creatively, however the design is a total copy of the herbivore skincare range which is completely unfair. Either she just tagged her name onto their products without really paying attention, or she's as unoriginal as they are. It really bugs me when people do stuff like that.

@Rosie-ic3gh Жыл бұрын

YESSSS thank you for talking about this!!!

@annihilxte Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you made this. I knew about the copying and it was weird to me though I didn’t realize they were doing it to people like Manny. That pisses me off! I have three of their palettes and they’re ok, the quality isn’t all there, that’s for sure. Soph’s is my favorite and I originally got it to support her. I have a baked bronzer that I love but now that I know about this I will not be repurchasing or buying any more from them! Why are all these brands so stupid and racist? There’s plenty of affordable brands that are better than Revolution so yeah, bye Revolution! Nice knowing you I guess.

@katzolitamason6729 Жыл бұрын

I don’t want to see them go down- I use some staples by Revolution and I want to continue with these great products for the rest of my life - More recently I can’t keep up with the launches and they aren’t as good as the old ones. Their best products they should keep and focus on more are as follows::. Sophs eyeshadow palettes and highlighter palettes. Ultra Contour palette in powder format in black palette. Hot and spicy blusher palette. Conceal and define full coverage foundation. Cut crease canvas concealer. Skincare= Magic Cream. I don’t believe in cancel culture and I would like to see them learn, rebrand, and put out less new products so we can all keep up! I have thoroughly enjoyed some of their products and found them to be of high quality. However they are lost in a wash of new releases that are often sub par. I do love Revolutions best though! I wish them well and I thank them for giving me some cheap staples that I go back to time and time again. They do need to rebrand to survive though. The world is changing!

@raigenhuss7030 Жыл бұрын

I just purchased the Pink Honey brow wax to support this wonderful lady! I can’t believe they did that to her. Shipping from UK was expensive but worth it!

@witchyone1052 Жыл бұрын

These types of videos are why I really love both welsh twins, because you are ethical and moral and informative about the things I don’t have time to research!

@misha9893 Жыл бұрын

I liked them, but after this video I will try to find another brand that I will spend my money on. I had no idea they are so problematic (yeah I knew about the copying other brand but not that it was that much and that bad), the were one of my first brand that I used as a teenager and that maybe why I liked them but now I started discovering better (sometimes more expensive but if it's worth it I don't care) brands, and I will stop buying revolution and their brands, thanks for ur video James ❤️ (sorry for mistakes, English isn't my first language)

@cris_9076 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to improve as a buyer, choosing brands that defend values similar to mine and for this I need to get better information. I have to admit that I have a make up revolution palette and, although I will continue using it until I finish it, I think I will look for other options. Thanks for this video!

@elliegraace Жыл бұрын

Agree with a lot of this (racism and genuine property right infringements can’t be tolerated) but their business model in itself, ie. offering a wider range of lower quality products which are subsequently more accessible and affordable for many people (rather than specialising in a few) isn’t something that is objectively wrong or immoral xx

@AnnafromHungarylvNW 11 ай бұрын

Here is my unpopular opinion: the fact that they can sell copies for so cheap shows how overpriced the other brands are. I'm clearly not talking about the indie brands and the racist CEO is something else, but if copying others is unethical, so is working with such high profit margins. It is the ultimate disrespect for your customers, because it is insulting their intelligence. I don't agree with copying artistic work (like a package design or a campaign), but I actually believe that copying formula's is a good thing. Scientific achievements should be available for everyone, and I don't trust any chemist/lab tech/engineer that disagrees with this.

@earthlinglucy4847 Жыл бұрын

I have been considering refraining buying from Rev Beauty for a while, but now I'm convinced. The comparison between Rev and Shein was the nail in the coffin for me! I won't ever buy from Shein so why would I buy from Rev?? Nah screw that.

@QueerBones Жыл бұрын

100% on everything you said. Between the bad quality and their business practices and ethics I won’t buy anything from them or their various brands.

@bethc8981 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for using your platform to talk about this 💕

@jennyparsons8076 Жыл бұрын

In their earlier days Revolution had one great concealer I loved, it was a jar of full-coverage cream concealer with salicylic acid for acne spots. I can't find it in stores or on their website anymore, and it's upsetting because I could never find anything like it. Does anyone know of something like this? Additional question: I also started disliking them quickly but I'm curious about their Liquid Powder Serum. Does anyone know if there's anything to that or if any reputable companies have something like that?

@rayyaoreilly Жыл бұрын

Hey, I recently started using Glowhubs undercover concealer, it's a skincare x makeup fusion so it's got white willow bark, tea tree and salicylic acid in! There's a good few shades too. That might be a good alternative x

@biljam972 Жыл бұрын

There are other affordable brands, that are of quite good quality, even cruelty free, which I like, like Essence (great mascara), Wet&Wild (eye shadows), Catrice (nice lipsticks), and I hope one day in my country we can buy ELF cosmetics too. Sorry if I mistakenly listed some "revolution" sub-brand, I am not an expert but I like these brands. Also Urban Decay and Clinique from more expensive (though Clinique is not cruelty free sadly)...

@sunilgangarh7448 Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad you’re talking about this because this is so so so wrong. I genuinely will not touch any of their brand’s products anymore because this is outrageous. also lol the irony that they’re called Revolution but there’s absolutely nothing revolutionary about them

@teddycinema Жыл бұрын

i’m glad u went into the accessibility of it and not just being like “if u buy from this brand ur awful” like ppl do with shein (i mean it’s valid criticism but that’s the only affordable way to find cute plus size clothes atm). bc some ppl (like me lmao) get most makeup at marshalls or tj maxx bc it’s the most affordable and accessible but unfortunately that’s where a lot of the flop brands go to die🚶🏻‍♀️ i only have one thing from revolution (an eyeshadow palette i found at marshalls and it was cheap n had colors i like so i just bought it) but after hearing abt this i’m gonna steer away from them as much as i can😭

@gpgp1841 Жыл бұрын

Yessss, shein with the plus-size stuff kinda saved from completely giving up on going outside when I gained weight. I felt like shit, couldn't afford many new clothes, I live in a crazy expensive country with very few secondhand shops... I feel guilt that I ordered from them, (I was already unhappy buying stuff from China due to ethics even without the recent news) but really, it's so difficult sometimes to find affordable and sustainable things 😭

@eveningstar8581 Жыл бұрын

@@gpgp1841 the feeling of being able to go to a website and KNOW you will find something in your size?! And isn't hundreds of dollars for a top?! Sometimes that wins out ya I know? I understand the China feelings! It's absolutely disgusting what that country gets away with! But! When you're not "lucky" enough financially to be picky, you have to do what you have to do. I understand as I'm in the exact same boat!

@jovana_kocic Жыл бұрын

I have to correct you. Dupes used to be mainly a shade or texture, kind of accidental (single shadow, blush, lipstick).....when brands started "making dupes" , especially with whole palettes... I'd call that a knock off.

@victorshopov4913 Жыл бұрын

I've only used a few products from them and they have been mediocre at best. Obviously ripped off The Ordinary as well. Never buying from them again. Thank you for bringing light to this, James!

@foxlike1006 Жыл бұрын

After I saw Manny’s video about Revolution straight up stealing his packaging, I started to see clearly how many products they copied (speaking of concepts, not the quality of course), I don’t usually notice because where I’m from we don’t really have indie brands popular in EU or US in stores, even consuming foreign KZfaq content I just never heard of most of them. Even Revolution appeared on our market not that long ago, and I was happy about it then. And now I don’t see any value in their products. With everything that’s going on here some nice brands left the market, some are in the process of leaving, and a few days ago when I tried to get laura mercier powder, which is gone, I just saw another Revolution beauty brand on display. And the sad part is.. I’m sure they’ll be successful here, in a place where 20 dollars for a single product considered expensive and there is less and less to choose from