When I started playing craps, I too followed various books recommendations for the 3 Point Molly. I found it too expensive and it required too many rolls to recoup the initial bet. I now follow Color Up and Casino Quest strategies on squeeze and regress plays. You guys are great.

Tried this out on a bubble craps machine and got some long lucky rolls. I left after 2 hours with $299 after starting with $100. Tried again recently with my $199 profit, lost down to $100 really fast. It definitely takes hitting a few times to make it work and with only a few numbers working at a time, that can take many rolls. So the recent day when I lost $100 out of my earlier profit, I switched up to the Split the Sisters shown on the channel and got up to $600 in a couple hours. I really liked that one as it takes only two hits to break even, and it is working more numbers. Once you hit those two numbers it is just press and collect time and if you get a long roll in that, you can collect a lot. I am still very new, and still only looking for $5 tables, which for me in the Northeast seems non-existent, so bubble craps is really my only experience so far. But I am learning and love the videos here, and user's comments, to learn from!!

I love this video and it agrees with so many things I've been thinking about! I've been asking why (on reddit, etc.) making low house edge bets matter so much when I'd rather just regress and play for free on numbers that are actually hitting. Thanks for confirming this for me.

That’s why I love Casino Quest’s ultimate Squeeze Play regression strategy. For example: $15 table, 110 inside, first hit buy the 4 and 10 for $20 each, next hit regress down to $96 across. I’ve done twice, the first time I won $250 on the first 2 shooters then walked away. Then I tried it yesterday and won $700-$800 on a hot shooter.

I agree! I PREFER to just play BOX numbers because you can turn them OFF ANYTIME you want!

I agree it takes to too long to brake even. And you can’t take it down. You can only take off the odds bet. So if it is a long roll and you feel it is going to end soon or the dice go off the table, you can’t turn it off or take down your bets like you can with place bets.

I usually back off and only have one come bet working if I have hit 2 or 3 come or line bets. That reduces my chances of winning more but also increases my chances of losing less once the dreaded 7 is rolled. Way too many players never take place bets down, and many players always have to have 2 come bets active, same thing. Plus I don't make full odds bets, but that's because I don't want to have $150 or so active.

I see lots of people playing Pass and 2 come bets. They always seem to leave the table before a good shooter gets a turn. I told one guy in NJ at Caesar during the beauty pageant to wait for atleast 5 rolls in; he just gave me a slight snear and lost 5 shooters in a row. Even when I am the shooter I wait for 6 rolls to see what to bet on. Getting Pass/Point/7 is not as fun as it looks. 😥

Jeremy--It's your "standard", and Many folks play it. Because you're 100% correct--you're Not out of the hand by roll 5, the "strategy" is Only gonna win on the 2 long rolls/hour, and lose on the 10 of 12 that are shorter. The shorter 10 losses are Rarely made up on the 2 longer rolls...but folks chase the 3 point molly for that "Huge" monster roll that only happens rarely for them. But chase it they do. Good of you to show this.

Personally, I prefer to play the DP, lay full odds. Then take two come bets and take full odds. On the PSO, I collect my DP and come bet. On a PSO =1, I win my DP and odds bet. I lose my come number and odds, and win my come bet for a small net gain.I like this strategy slightly better than the 6,7,8 because of the earning potential on the PSO and getting full odds one my come numbers.

I only use it in conjunction with Crapless Craps and ill play 145 inside, with a field bet. Love the books!

You could use this to the first win, in you example the 5 where you won $70. Take down the other odds and use you winnings to place the rest of the numbers. So you’re 60-64 across and in the black. Sure 2 numbers are flat bets but if they hit you can go back with a place bet.

What's wrong with using the 3 point Molly, but with just a 1x odds strategy? It will save $ and allow you to recoup faster, right?

I don't understand how 6+4 equals 8 at 10:50. It doesn't look like the dice rolled when you moved them.

Nice presentation Mr Color Up IMO no strategy beats the DP and if you must lay odds just lay half of the original DP amount IMO

Jeremy, when are you going to write a book on Craps?

I find it a good strategy . But in theory they are all good strategies right up until you let go of the dice . It’s what you feel comfortable with . It’s what you want to win . When you win you beat the math and you need to bet as heavy as you can . I don’t play for fun . I play to win . What ever works is what ya use . Gotta be flexible and know what to do and when .

You just killed the horn. Slayed it

Your odds bets have zero house edge, unless you let the casino turn them off. "Odds working" everytime.

So how long did your roll go ? You won 17% on your bank roll . Not bad for 20 mins !! Not a stock or bank that I can think of to pay that much !!

11 rolls for $60 that no go you have to start with nice bets if you have it 220 in side hit two numbers bring everything down and go to 96 across the full press from them

Yep that's why I hate come bets. I never have luck with them. I'm better off buying 4s and 10s. Could you do a buy strategy sometime?

Question... now that you posted this video on what you don't like, will you please post a video on what you currently do like? I know this may change over time but I'd like to know your go to personal method. Is this one good: I've been doing $110 inside, after first hit full press 4 and 10 with extra on horn, after second hit I regress to $66 inside and half press from there.

I've started to simulate the 3 come Molly vs 3PM and notice it's been winning more consistently than 3PM on the same exact set of rolls (1 set is 500 rolls and done 15 rolls). I can't make much sense of it but i guess the theory is the PSOs are actually beneficial to it?

love the way you break it down.

Amazingly I have only one (now two: edited) of those books and 4 that are not on your list.

Thanks for the vlog.

Bravo. Perfect demo.

I see a ton of videos you have which are great. What would you say are the two best strategies that you would recommend so I can watch those two videos.

The Standard of Craps Experts! Lol

What is your favorite book?

I saw the “standard” video and thought great! Went to my local casino and lost $2000 😅 guess I should have waited an extra couple days before this video came out. No hate, enjoying the learning experience 🙌

Your intuition is that the 3PM takes too long to pay back your bets. That's my intuition, too. And we're both wrong. The 3PM has the best statistics of any strategy I've ever tested. I've posted it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMp3q6mWu8DdaZ8.html with a run of 2.5 million shooters and compared it to 5 other strats, but I've run a couple dozen other strats, too and the 3PM is the best (least bad). On average, for 25 shooters, you'll only lose $20 at a $10 table. YMMV. (P.S. If you want to get your bets paid for quickly, Split the Sisters (with no hardway bets) is the best I've seen.)

Do you think the Standard would do better if you played a Don't Pass followed by 2 Come bets? So when it's set up you would have a Don't Pass with max odds and 2 Come Bets with max odds.

Are you selling your book?

Personally, i don't get it. I actually perfer the darkside version better cuz i can set 3 points and then one 7 pays me on all at once.

Wow, didnt realize there were so many books on craps? 😁

This is not a good representation of 3 point Molly. I have won more money with this strat on either the dark on light side. Odds play is a function of your bank roll. It’s also regressive and protects you from the PSO. Minimize loss and maximize gain. I use nickel odds to begin. After two numbers hit, then only the next number gets pressed to the next unit. If 6 and 8 are come points, then I will play for off and on even if another come bet is active. No more than four points playing. It’s also easy to change to DC after 3 points are established with a dollar yo hedge. Let the come points hit and then you’re in a don’t strategy. This works.

One thing I will say, is that the "number" of rolls really means nothing. The probability of any number rolling at ANY TIME never changes. That's why you see point 7 outs and why you see 20 or 30 or more monster rolls. There is the "combined" number of roll probabilities and that is what you are talking about. But in reality.....every single roll....is the same probability regardless of how many came before. ...Claude

Damn, and I thought that I had a bunch of books on craps. Just Saying

In my very humble opinion, the best books u displayed are "Scarne On Dice" and "The Dice Doctor". These two alone should convince u NOT to play craps.

In the given scenario, where you are on three separate numbers it takes at least two hits to recoup your money. But there are other scenarios to consider too. The 3PM does help offset the PSO. I know, you don't want the seven to appear, but sooner of later JESUS IS COMING and I'd rather get paid something on it rather than nothing. Another scenario of the 3PM is where you get some repeaters early in the roll. That is always a nice surprise. Another thing with the 3PM is you have to make a decision whether or not to work you bets on the come out roll. I don't see any reason not to. The odds bet is the best bet in the house and taking it off seems rather stupid. Think about it. The casino has you odds off by default. They certainly aren't looking out for your interests, so work your odds. Another dynamic about the 3PM is that you are hoping to seven out in the situations where you only have one come bet active.

My wife doesn't believe you bought all those books, lmao.