I feel like what Voldex was trying to achieve was a dungeon that was less bullet hell-like than the past dungeons before YP. because of this the dungeon felt like a breeze to complete, compared to the past dungeons where the bosses had attacks that virtually covered the entire room (VC-GS aka the dungeons that depended on EIR/EIF). The mobs aren't any different either, as they were sometimes a challenge for players too. Yokai on the other hand, was easier because the mobs attacked slower, and the bosses had relatively low tick dmg where it couldnt one-shot players. Some part of me believes that Voldex intentionally made the dungeon more forgiving than the past ones because of how hard they were, since players complained about their difficulty as well, but at the same time it made the gameplay itself more enjoying, especially if you beat the dungeon for the first time (its a great feeling!). So when the players saw a huge difficulty transition from GS to YP, they began to hate on YP for being too easy, which sounds ironic because a lot of players complain about dungeons like NL and GS being ridiculously hard for the most part. TDLR: I think voldex just wanted to make a dungeon that was more forgiving and less bullet-hell like to the players rather than being another hellhole all over again. Instead it backfired and the community flamed them for making it too easy.

Honestly, I don’t really blame Voldex on making an easy dungeon. It’s honestly one of the best decisions in the long run. Think about it, if they decided to make dungeons get harder and harder, then eventually they’ll reach a point where the dungeon would be too difficult for players to beat. This in turn would cause a similar balance changes to the one you shown in the video with them trying desperately to not lose long term players of the game. Eventually this could end up with the team just nerfing the dungeon all together. On the other hand, if they don’t go this route but still try their best on making hard dungeons, this would cause a phenomenon where the dungeons would virtually be the same level of difficulty over and over again. When this happens, the dungeons become less enjoyable which would lead to a massive decline in players. No matter how well detailed the map or the armors, weapons, and spells are, it’s overall the replay ability that matters the most in my opinion. People just don’t understand the mental toll developers can have when they’re actively trying to warp to the player’s standards, rather than the other way around. Developing a game is not an easy tasks as people may think. Disclaimer that I’m not saying they don’t have a fault in this scenario, (I would definitely say that the timer for this dungeon is a bit too long myself) however I feel like putting most, if not all the blame on them is dehumanizing to say the least. What I would say that’s majority a problem is the player base or the community itself, which to an extent makes sense. Humans in general were always demanding for more, complaining about this thing and that. It’s all because they want something to go their way for them, and wanting that sense of dopamine that kicks in when you beat a very challenging obstacle. If you don’t believe me, then just take a look at how players are spamming out messages about them trading out “godpot” items for something of similar value. It really does seem like the community seems more like business transactions than anything else. It’s not all about the decision developers make to their game that kills it, but rather it could also be the community themselves. TLDR: I don’t blame Voldex entirely for the changes, but rather Dungeon Quest’s infamous, demanding community.

I stopped playing after GS but it’s honestly crazy how you mentioned that the dungeon was easy I remember it taking hours and hours off getting equipment for new dungeons until daily rewards which was crazy

honestly my biggest complaint / disappointment was the massive exp nerf

3:37 - 3:39 omg there it is. The pog yellow circle spell

nice video this was actually a big reason why i didnt really play dungeon quest new update in general

I hope they do better next dungeon hopefully we will see you when they fix such silly mistakes thx for posting bro as a lvl 230 player I understand

i'm still missing old dq

As a level 216 player thats been playing sense 2020 i really enjoyed the difficulty on dungeons from GH-NL but gs felt like a pain with the first 2 bosses and it was extremely hard to get past them with my conditions (250+ ping and old ahh phone) but i agree yp is just so easy and extremely long which makes it so boring that i spend my time carrying low levels and leveling up alts

I just feel like voldex has made dq not feel like dq anymore and it's a really sad sight to see cause DQ has been one of my favorite games for a long time FL feels more like DQ than DQ does at this point which is upsetting

Not every shot can hit the target. Wait for a map fix or the next zone. Don't say it's dying from 1 fail

yea, Voldex wanted to make gameplay like ez but long to grind while trying to change meta but they obviously failed, i know this is their 1st dungeon, but i can definetly see they improving with adding desert temple remaster which seems good tho they made it even easier tbh.

Well sprookie im glad ur not playing as often cause my goal is to pass you on the leaderboard anyway. No beef i kinda just wanna get on the leaderboard

They removed Dungeon Quest Remastered, and copied their idea, Then on top of that, they made a desert temple remake which was honestly a joke.

the most entertaining video ive seen and the best edited video in a long time about dq. This games youtube content is kinda stale. W vid.

I tanked YP insane without xp booster and let me tell you, oh boi, i was grinding all the entire last day of 2023, from 10 AM to 11:40 PM, just to level up from half 204 to 205. I was so motivated to complete the game before the end of the year that i didnt care about grinding for so long just to get 1 and half levels.

As a Dungeon quest player who is now level 217, I absolutely agree with everything you said. For one, mages have been super overrated, and warrior gets very little attention. 2, All the nerfs, and buffs for the spells have been really annoying as they were changing the difficulty of Yokai peaks. 3, they nerfed the XP by 68% made the population of the players playing the game go down a whole lot for people who was above level 200. I am a warrior, and it is just annoying to see everyone else play as a mage and hate on warriors. Let's just hope and pray people will see all of our complaints, they pay more attention to the warriors as there is only 3 dungeons warrior is better in and finally hope they actually make the game and dungeons a bit more exciting and enjoyable.

Mage and War class are nowhere near balanced. Rift Beam can easily do 70q+ damage whilst war spells are still doing less than 60q. The only way you can reach 60q+ as a warrior is with a full 31+ purple akuma set and with a bunch of extra leveling points. Honestly, terrible balancing

hi bro i agree this dungeon were super ez and that was pretty sad i hoped this dungeon could be more happy and fun and also the music is bad hear the true one and then you see the music is good but how they used that is bad

took me a day and 3 hours for my first yokai completion cause gilded was so cancerous i didnt wanna grind anymore of it so i was too low level to get in a group but in reality had a decent gs set

I dont play YP anymore i wont get any exp and i am now carrying for legends or playing on second accounts

Plus they didn't makes dungeon for 8 months and making regular updates, like if they want to make us waiting and preparing for a great thing👀

Really my only problem about this dungeon is the difficulty, it isn't hard, the graphics are good, details and map but the difficulty just became way too easy compared to the GS and NL, sure the players were complaining about the difficulty but I honestly think that's one of the fun parts within dungeon quest, the difficulty which makes it completing it feel so rewarding.

I disagree i like yp because compared to the outher dungeons to a certin extent it is way more fair but i do feel like they should buff the damage of some attcks from bosses mainly from the 1st and 2nd boss

Finally Someone criticizes the game with good argument, first i personally like and agree with a lot of voldex team update voldex team are doing, but i agree with a lot of points you mentioned in this video, first the dungeon is wa too easy, finishing YP NM with GS stuff isn't normal Second, the mage/war diff is insane and like you said have a war in ur team is bad, but instead of rebalancing classes correctly, they just added OP 400M Weapon that are only available for War, which makes that having a mage in ur raid is bad and a lot of "war only" raid pop up And third the XP issues is Terrible i think personally a nerf was needed, but not a 69% nerf like that too much and keeping XP in lines with previous dungeon, is just making leaderboard grind even and even slower. I don't think making long dungeon long is a bad thing (exept if ur making drop compilation👀) and YP still really fun, it has cool bosses, incredible Graphism and fun gameplay They did good thing and bad thing (But more good, its my opinion) Anyway thanks for this video and i hope the best for you (Btw i got 214-230 in YP so i think i can gives my opinion)

I feel like they can make up for it with remasters. I absolutely loved the remaster on desert temple and cant wait for future remasters.

For me i like YP being easy because i never had a group to grind with

tbh the only thing im down bad sad is bc of the first dungeon i know its ez but its too ez unlike before they atleast could have not changed the attack patterns and aoe and change the mobs only

aight

they did us dirty with the exp nerf

in my opinion every dungeon up to VC is fun in my opinion because the levels werent too difficult, werent to challenging for people, but ever since VC, you would rely on this speed spell to get through the dungeons normally, due to the attacks being to large and to quick to react to and dodge. I disagree that they made a move that is to be forcefully used to make every dungeon possible. I miss the old days where you would use 2 moves at once instead of just using 1 move and a support move

After the EXP nerf. I just didn’t play it at all. Such little exp to get from 1 run. It used to be like 1.2T and insanely went down. That was the reason I didn’t get any more levels, it just got harder.

i love yoi peaks

Honestly gs is more valuable to grind lvl 206 then yp ins

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Challenges are good when you have a good ping, most players like me have a hell of a time dodging 300 skills in 1 second, even dodging we still take damage because of the extremely high ping, YP is wonderful, it's not that easy nor as difficult as dungeons should be, anyone who wants bullet hell should play Touhou.

I completely agree with your statement Sprookie! I have quit the game after about 1 week of playing. The game to me has fallen apart like you have mentioned in your video. It is really sad that voldex had the whole community hyped up, but we all soon began to notice how bad these changes were. Most of all, it made me pretty upset how terrible they have made the Halloween event, and voldex shutting down Dungeon Quest Remastered (which in my opinion is a better game than normal dq), even though Vinny and Joey approved the game to be up. Thank you for making this video. It makes me glad to see that it wasn't just my opinion of this, but you who my favorite dungeon crawler content creator is coming from the same reasons I have noticed. I can't wait to see brand new content of Fallen Paradise ;)

Sure, learning the mechanics of old dungeons was difficult, but when you figured it out and won that sense of accomplishment is so high it was worth every ounce it took.

well atleast the bosses are some of the best we have ever gotten

when YP came out everyone was hyped, but a couple weeks later it just got boring because its repetitive and in the end its just doing the dungeon over and over again

What also doesn’t make sense to me is why they decided to add pay to win to have the early game gear to solo a dungeon, back then the P2W aspect was so little, the best pass being an extra item every win. To make the game so much better they should make everything like how it was old dungeons, because on my alt im having so much fun watching and playing older dungeons then playing new ones, mainly because they made it too detailed and way too difficult to progress compared to newer levels, where you can grind it out alot and get alot of levels without of being burnt out, without any visual progress too see.

I do like the dungeon, however, most of time i have a big dislike on the spell they made. compare to gilded sky, this dungeon have a very terrible spell effect. And tbh the dungeon was fun at first, then later it become more and more boring due to the amount of time given to just complete the dungeon, only to get 1 item per run(no extra drop). Even so i quit playing dungeon quest, even after christmas update to it

I'm sorry for putting a hate cmment, but I felt that I had to point this out. you claim that the dungeon was too easy, and you said that your team died several times, which makes me think that you would never complete it in hardcore mode. And then you said it was easy again and then quickly said it took you really long all the time. The logic just doesn't make sense

Sprookie voice

This whole video was spot on, I was going to continue playing the game before they nerfed the XP INTO THE GROUND, Completely ignoring, and silencing the community uproar in the discord... Since then i haven't touched the game... And they keep rumoring of more controversial updates... This is no longer the DQ i fell in love with

surely voldex will make good use of all this feedback... one day

Hi sprookie

Highly disagree with the first point. Yeah of course no offence but super try hard people like you would complain about it being too easy but for the rest of us it is painful every new map not being able to progress without having to wait days for others to grind and pray they carry or hand out freebies or just straight up wait for the daily to be updated. I've had to do that many times since I don't no life the game anymore and have long since left these servers and groups. Other than the small minority of people who will grind the map for months even when they already have maxed sets most of us have a life that doesn't include grinding this annoying game hours a day for weeks on end just for high pot legs and purple t3. With me even my most favourite maps on release at most I'd play for like 3 weeks then forget the game The rest though i definitely agree with like how the dungeon length is horrible , no part to adding a 4th boss which makes it even longer. Them being garbage with making spells, balancing classes and xp as well.

Bro I literally stopped bc it was so hard. DUDE LITERALLY, IT FORCED U TO MAKE SQYADS JUST TO BEAT A SQUAD

Slowly,dungeon quest will end like rumble quest,forgotten in a void...

can we get vinny back?

This dungeon quest so many bugs😢

Yeah, I had entire discussions about how much DQ sucks now with voldex they literally banned me and everyone else just for sharing our opinions.

Late comment, but I like to say that all of the things you described is very true since ever since the ownership of Voldex I was suspicious of Voldex’s intention due to their reputation owning games like Driving Empire, Zo, and some other games I forgot, died out due to the amount P2W aspects, cosmetics, and bugs that Voldex didn’t try to fix. But when the release of Yokai Peak was here, it was downright terrible, mob moves are predictable, bosses have predictable attacks, and worst of all the drops and abilities we are given. The update was just rushed since the abilities were out of tuned, Chain Storm dealt less damage than Jade Rain, Warrior still dealing the same amount of damage as a mage but has bad range, and not to mention Voldex just bringing another heal ability for Guardian which is just down right slandering the class. For what I know of, the only ability that made Warrior a viable class was Old Kunai Knives. Old Kunai Knives had a good concept since it requires the player to be close to an enemy to deal high damage since each line deals a tick of normal damage, not split damage, but full damage per line (3 x 3 = 9 Ticks of normal damage per use) which made warrior a fun class since it was challenging and useful. Mage however just got a buff since it dealt even more damage than Warrior due to RiftBeam scaling. And then, there is Guardian which has the 4th heal in a row and no good support abilities. It’s safe to say that this dungeon is an easy dungeon (which was obvious) and people complained it being “Too Easy.” It’s funny that in Northern Lands and Gilded Skies, people complained the dungeon to be “Too Hard,” so do we want an easy dungeon or a hard dungeon? It’s such a disappointment to the community that they don’t know that a dungeon is supposed to be harder and harder as we pass through dungeon which is the entire purpose of AN RPG GAME. The pre-exp for Yokai Peak was fine, it’s just the mob attacks and bosses that made the dungeon easy. I don’t really care if the Exp was nerfed by a little, but the way they handle was down right stupid. Not to mention that there was a bug that had affected the loot drops. That dungeon was Steampunk Sewers. When you play the dungeon on Nightmare mode, if you beat it, it will only grant the loot to one player only, and it had took this 5 days after the release of Yokai Peak. I can understand that they are humans and all, but if there’s a bug that can kill a dungeon in one update, then you should probably fix that bug immediately after it has been discovered. For a Brief Summary aka Tldr: Terrible balancing, terrible scaling, unprofessional work, lack of communication from the community, and terrible reason to keep the Eir and Eif meta.

I hope it won't fall on deaf ears

5:12 y’all complain then vex when they listen “its to easy to level up” oh ok nerf exp thats why vcaffy barely listen to y’all cause u make dumb augments and complain about everything then vex when ur giving what u want. What do u expect when u say its to easy to level up?

Bro, everything about the dungeon was atleast play worthy because the exp made up for that. once they did that it was actually the most boring map ive ever played.

Yokai Downfall Poggies

It’s safe to say: they killed the game Even the new cosmetics not worth the grind + they start to make TOO MANY updates that makes me less interested to play the game bc u sometime need to rest from grinding for like 2 weeks, Vinny was having trouble making new dungeons that’s take more than 6 months, but Voldemort makes update every week, even tho it’s not NEW dungeon but still u should LOG into the game and grind, and sometimes u wanna go on vocation and you miss so many stuff, what is this?

I started really hardcore grinding dungeon quest at the release of enchanted forest, brainlessly grinding 14 hours a day. However as the game kept releasing the same cut and paste dungeons i started slowly losing will to play the game. Still I was getting full purple tier 3 sets and legendaries within a month of the release of the dungeons before Yokai. Yokai peak was so different, the overall feel and animation of the game just felt off and different from VCaffy's style. I seriously disliked the fact that the dungeon was longer and added an extra boss, you thought going from 2 minute raids to 4 minute raids was bad. I was grinding dungeon quest with 2 alt accounts, doing solo damage by myself on hc for extra loot (i hated raids because my pc wasn't fast enough to load in at the time). So it just took even longer to get loot. I think I was already going to be burned out of the game even if it was VCaffy making and releasing the dungeon, but the new development team definitely killed my drive to play the game quicker. My friend recently showed me what new dungeon quest looks like because I hadn't played since a month after Yokai's release, and the game just looks like a terrible cash grab. Furthermore the new winter outpost dungeon remaster does not seem very beginner friendly either. game just sucks

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I agree! Its a bad dungeon

At first I disagreed with this video I thought voldex was doing really good I really enjoyed Yokai peak because honestly gilded skies was way too hard in my opinion but it didn't make sense that yokai peak was way easier than gilded.I originally thought everything was going good for this game with the dungeon revamps.But now if you look at the shop it looks something straight out of a mobile game.Voldex is going down the wrong path now and I fear the next dungeon will be easier than yp and the strongest players will be the ones who dump the most money.

30 minmutes to an hour to beat doesn't sound easy

YOUR LEVEL 240 of course you beat it really fast

Plus its a cultural themed

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before today, i had no problem with them adding like the cosmetics and stuff (the overpriced trash ones) and gifting, but today it needs to end. they made it so on desert, winter, pirate, and kings where you can p2w (buy armor and a full set that would normally take like 2-3 levels to get) just for robux, which is so stupid and is the last thread, they are going to send this game to the grave. if only vcaffy didnt sell this good game to the company that got roblox sued by multiple car brands. whoops

I know this I’m lvl 218 and this dungeon is way to easy but it gives such shitty exp and get garbage loot. 90% of the time

Able to be beat without 3 max gear players minimum = "it's too easy" The older dungeons warped your sense of difficulty. In any other game, if it couldn't be beat solo it would be called overly difficult. I mean even cuphead got called "too difficult" by game reviewers, even though it's very beatable alone. To sum it up; dungeon quest's overly hard difficulty warped everyone's sense of difficulty and yokai peaks is the first balanced dungeon

I agree on every aspect. Yokai Peak is too long and easy. I have played other games owned by Voldex in the past and the lack of consideration for the community is beyond crazy. I’m not surprised that Dungeon Quest players are also extremely frustrated. You’d think a big company like Voldex would know what they’re doing. In my opinion, Voldex is ruining Dungeon Quest as a whole. It seems they are making the game more cartoonish and appealing to a younger audience. A lot of us day one players are upset because we miss our old game.

Seriously tho despite the game have so much of a new update what make it bad for it is beacause of the lame update after the yokai Literally snowflakes grind and yokai sould grind then they just added robux spin ? Like seriously nothing really impressed at all

While I agree with a lot of the points here, I don't exactly agree with the statements made about difficulty. The old way difficulty was done was to make the dungeons challenging for groups but they were never nerfed when the new dungeons came out, leaving players behind to struggle with the dungeons. YP's difficulty should be like this once the new dungeon comes out so newer players can actually beat it without a group, the other dungeons should follow the same thing. Steampunk Sewers is probably the last dungeon I was able to solo with the previous dungeon's gear but after that, I had to rely on daily gift to even stand a chance. In my opinion, the difficulty should be higher for the new dungeon but should be nerfed to around this difficulty when the level 210 dungeon comes out. Also why is it so long holy hell.

i am the 69th like

The exp is so bad and it takes rlly long

Bro really said guilded skies was fun 💀

I don't see any of these valid dungeon quest has a massive fan base and community just because you think its bad doesn't mean its the end of the game find real and sturdy proof and evidence to support your dayum answers

GS is the worst map in the game skksksks

Fabled Legacy is better, who else agrees? 👇

your complain about the length in my opinion makes no sense at all, in your example, you're given 11 minutes to complete GS, ending at 5:19, those are NOT 2 minutes, those are those are 5:14, roughly the same as YP assuming using gear for that level, and the sole reason the community uses GS spells is because they're stupid, thats it, Chain storm does far far more damage than jade rain, but the same community that complained about 1 tick spells being "too boring" is now using one tick spells because DESPITE multilple tick spells being stronger they want the damage INSTANTLY