I left the “man made Pentecostal movement” after almost 20 years. Best decision my family ever made besides our salvation.

I left the Pentecostal church in 2015 and I’m still healing from the spiritual trauma. Great video, thanks for sharing.

I thank God I was raised in the Pentecostal church. I thank God for the hellfire and brimstone preaching. I thank God for a born again experience. I thank God that I am redeemed by the precious blood of Jesus, saved, sanctified, and set apart. I thank God for His presence and for His glory. I thank God for a teaching that calls us out of darkness and encourages one to embrace a holy life, for without holiness (right standing with God) no man shall see Him, and I thank God for the ever living Word that has taught me how to live. Not the Pentecostal church, but the Word. And to that end, the Pentecostal church has been a powerful place that promotes and encourages one to get as close to Jesus as possible and not grieve the Holy Spirit thru a lose lifestyle. Thank God for the Pentecostal church. No regrets here.

Thank you for this content. I too was raised in the pentecostal church from the age of 3 and I have seen a lot of craziness. I knew as a child something wasn't right. Today I'm still struggling to find a true Bible teaching church expositionally speaking but I'm so thankful to have found your video. Thank you for sharing! God bless you and your wife as you continue to share the Gospel!

Brother, you should have thousands of subscribers. You just got one more here. What a presentation of truth and I attest to the truths here, amen

I was called a divider and creator of discord for speaking the truth of Paul's epistles

I used to be in the Pentecostal holiness movement. I remember having a "good service" was a having a shout down. If your church didn't have enough emotionalism it was a "dry" church. Didn't matter if your church wasn't growing. All that really mattered was emotionalism and dress. They said the reason they didn't grow is people rejected holiness.

I spent almost 2 years in Pentecostalism . Mike is speaking everything I was feeling the last 5 months until I said. Lord , Thank You ! I am done with the Apostolic church .

Sir it's like you're speaking my words exactly!!!!!Had the exact same experience and I'm pretty sure everyone here can relate!!Keep preaching the true word of God and keep fighting the good fight of the faith!!!

I have been in the Pentecostal church ever since I was a child. Please pray that God will lead me in the right direction.

I grew up in the AOG church and even though our pastors had some training, everything you said fits with my experience. Even though I left Pentecostalism years ago, I didn’t embrace Calvinism until the last few years. It has taken a long time for the legalism and the teachings of men to leave because I became convinced by Scripture. Thankfully, God is so patient with us. Thank you for your testimony! You are brave!

Brother Mike, thank you for sharing the truth! As Pentecostalism has superficial worship, the love is also superficial. I was a Pentecostal preacher. I renounced Pentecostalism in 2015. I am still healing from the spiritual abuse. But, I thank God for His grace to open my eyes to the truth and to set me free by His truth. God bless.

What a powerful revealing testimony, I know this will help and be a blessing to many. Thank you and God bless!🙏❤️🕊️

I am age 55 at time of this writing. Your descriptions brought back a lot of memories of things I encountered in my own years growing up in a Pentecostal church. Once I reached adulthood and got out on my own though, I was able to see what other churches were like and have long since moved on to another church that my wife and I agree much more with. This video is an excellent explanation of the errors and excesses of the Pentecostal movement. I never heard anything about Charles Parham and his students when I was growing up in a Pentecostal church. Had to learn that on my own much later. Thank you for this video.

I was born and raised in a Pentecostal church, it ruined my life and that of my Mother.

Thanks for this video Mike. As a new Christian I started going to a Pentecostal church. I started questioning what I saw happen in the church and then I started looking at scripture. Every time after having read scripture I would cringe at the lies or the misalignment the Pentecostal teaching had with the bible. I couldn’t stay there for long. It burned me to see it. I became critical in my heart but have since forgiven the preachers but I will not support it.

This is one of the BEST videos I have seen explaining this. Thanks!

Thank You for this awesome testimony. I too came out of the Pentacostal movement. I am glad the Lord open our eyes.

Unfortunately I grew up in a pentecostal church. Can't tell you how many times I went to the alter, got saved, then backslid a week later . I even spoke in tongues at one time...trying to impress this girl with how spiritual I was. Too many crazy and harmful experiences to recount all here. As a small child I remember having nightmares because of what I witnessed. This movement is worse than destructive. I have spiritual PTSD to this day, and find it hard to even go to church.

Thank you so much, Pastor Mike, for your terrific explanation of why you left Pentecostalism. It has helped us define our reasons for leaving and given me good information that we can use to explain why we left to our friends who are still following those incorrect teachings. Our eyes have been opened the last couple of years and it’s been a relief to be reminded that God is sovereign, He is in control, He is faithful and we need Him more than ever! 🙏❤️

Thank you so much for making this video.

Thank you for speaking on this topic🙏🏾

I came across this video and agree with everything you said. I grew up in a Pentecostal church and was there until the age of 15. I left the church entirely and headed into the wilderness but by the grace of God I returned to the Lord and now I am in a church that focuses on Christ Alone and His word. Thank you for sharing your testimony my brother in Christ. You have some awesome videos here I need to look at, keep up the content. May the Lord continue to bless your ministry.

I thought your voice sounded familiar. You and your family used to come to the church I grew up in in Waynesboro. We used to go to BHC but escaped.(thank God) I always had questions growing up that no one could explain to me. Recently my eyes have been opening to the truth of God's word. I am so glad that you and your family came out and see the truth. It is so encouraging to know that your eyes are opened. Praise God! I'm so happy for you guys. Some good channels I've been following are Justin Peter's ministries, Long For Truth, Fighting For The Faith. Thank God I found y'all's channel.

WOW! WOW! WOW! Thanks for putting this video out.

❤ im very thankful that I was lead out of that false teaching. I am now free from that and learning the true gospel. I can relate to so many things that you said.

Thank you souch for this! This explains exactly how I feel for the last 8 years I e gone to a pentecostal church, I feel like something is not right. I'm sad to say that it is written on my heart to search for something different. I know something isn't sitting right with me. Also my church is more like a country club for saints, as they cast you away if you don't join in their competition for hierarchy in the church cliques. God is pulling at my heart to leave there more and more within the recent months... Thank you brother, God bless you and your family.

This is a comprehensive and gracious explanation and testimony. Those I know of this thought are some of the most materialistic and mean Christians I've encountered. You're told that you're not saved if you don't speak in their version tongues or that if you study or want to discuss bible doctrine that you're not walking in the Spirit. It's heartbreaking. ❤🙏✝️🙏❤️

This is Why We Must Spend More Time with Our Lord Yeshua Jesus in Prayer and Reading His Word to Know Him Even More!

Thank you for your testimony!

This is what happened to me at a UPC church in Florida . It was all emotionalism and no sound doctrine in that so-called revival . I went to the altar and they laid hands on me and spoke in tongues . Then they led me up to the baptistry , and like cattle running to the stall , they baptized me in Jesus name . I then faked speaking in tongues and went back to my seat . Meanwhile the music was loud and blaring .

Thank you for sharing 🙏🏽

Amen! God is absolutely Sovereign! By him are we in Christ!

Yes, you’re right, the Spirit will bring you into all truth. God Bless you.

Thank you for sharing your experience with Holiness Pentecostalism. Would love to sit down with you and compare stories. Thanks again, brother!

And we must most definitely question the leaders what is being preached especially If it's not in the Bible. We should all be in one accord like the Bible says.

Brother, I totolly understand & can relate 100% to what it is you are saying. I myself before leaving was basically considered the black sheep or trouble maker for asking questions. Questions that were deserving of answers based on the confusion of what I was being taught 😒 & instead of receiving clear biblical explanations I was verbally attacked for questioning the pastor.

It's even worse in Africa Nigeria especially . Because most of the people are always looking for blessings they just believe anything they hear. If you question the ways of doing things you are seen as an enemy of the church. It's so common to have one man who is the founder of the ministry and then he is called the general overseer and everyone reveres him so much and then they start making him the centre of attraction. (Oh our papa said This, buy papas books don't buy any other books, They will say tomorrow is anointing service come with anointing oil we will pray and then use it to do this and that).. if there is one country where Pentecostalism has really eaten deep into the people and has 98% deceived it is Nigeria... They don't believe in salvation by Faith and not works they say you can lose it... one day I stood looking at now many pastors and reverend and bishops were in a conference I attended.. Many of them but the more you see them the more the society is getting worse..

Hope many Christian will hear this

Thanks for the clarity in articulating this. I have been saved out of seeker-friendly pentecostal and prosperity for 18months and over the last few months I was prompted to understand more of Pentecostalism and this has done justice to that!!!

I happened to come across you're video. Glad i did! I grew up pentecostal, and relate in so many ways! I was taught things wrong, and not in proper context... and endured alot of spiritual abuse. I guess that's what you would call it. Three strikes youre out.. mess up to many times God will be done with you. All i ever heard was about how angry God was. I was under a lot of control. I wanted to please man more than God. Constantly talking about losing salvation.. which instilled a fear in me. Not a godly, reverence fear of God.. but a spirit of fear always harassing me, that made me want to run from Him not to Him. I could go on, but you get the point. I came out of all that, but i still struggle sometimes because of everything i went through. Especially His love for me..and that should not be, i know He died on the cross because He loved us, but i really battle that and i feel embarrassed and ashamed. Its hard to explain what i go through. I really need prayer. Its like im starting all over, relearning everything... I know im Healing, but it's heen a long, hard and lonely process .. and feel it has hindered my growth more than I'd like to admit.🙏

My parents were JW, my father was big time elder/overseer. Even as a child I knew there was something wrong with it. I refused to get baptized as a JW. I was guided by God to a better understanding of his Word and to Christianity.

What a great video ❤❤ God bless you and thank you for sharing your wonderful testimony 🙏

My friend, the UPCI does not legalise anything in the Church. Living a life of Holiness and Righteousness is our love for God. Jesus said if any men wants to follow him, a person MUST first of all DENY himself/herself. Again I can see the lack of the understanding of the word of God.

Hi Brother Mike. Your right on with this video. 😊. The snatching away of the bride of Christ is very very close now. I was in Pentecostalism for almost 30 years I’m 71 now and I live in Ocala Florida believe me there’s very few churches out there that preach God’s word anymore for every John MacArthur there’s thousands of false teachers. Even in the evangelical churches, and you know something I hate the word evangelical because it doesn’t mean what it used to mean. So it’s not just in Pentecostalism that there’s false teaching. I would just like to encourage you to be strong in the lord and the power of his might, and preach the only trust worthy word of God, and that is from scripture itself in expository preaching just like you said. God bless you my brother and God bless your wife. Tom Harrington ❤

im with you brother, it is a church that encourages the flesh, rather than the Spirit. ive spoke out against these peoples false doctrines but unless the Lord moves on them i cant see it changing. And many of those pastors KNOW that some of their doctrines are wrong but are told to hold fast to the traditions of the church founders.

My sickening journey into Charismania lasted 20 years. My takeaway was this. Anytime more time is spent on personal experiences than studying scripture, get out.

You still have that preacher voice. It’s like when you watch the news and the anchor uses a trained voice that doesn’t sound natural. I like the preacher voice and I wonder if preachers even know that they have adopted it.

I believe this brother is o no the right track in his desire to know the God of the Holy Scriptures. As one who has had significant years in theological training hermeneutics, and Church history, I need to encourage him to keep up studying the Word of God. He will also lead you out of the errors of reformed theology aka Calvinism. If you think pentecostalism is bad, you have no idea how heretical reformed theology is.

Wonderful testimony/warning Rev!

I attended a pentecostal church for many years. I agree with you about they not knowing the Bible but on the other hand i was healed several times of some pretty serious stuff by the laying on of hands. I instantly came out of drugs and alcohol and it had truely been a blessing, how ever it really does seem that they have the bible alltwisted up.

Beautiful testimony.

Comment #300 🔥 Thank you for this testimony!

We came out of the carasmatic 3 years ago!! Praise God

Thank you for sharing I had to come out of a Pentecostal church they emphasizes speaking on tongues spiritual baptism prophesies laying hands speaking into one life and emotionalism. Toxic and causes mental damage

Preach it brother!

Mike I struggled with drugs and went to a heavy Pentecostal rehab run by an ex Bikie, he claimed to be a Christian and used to publicly shame members who sinned or annoyed him and pray curses over people who left the program. He also encouraged people to confess very private things all the time even publicly. That was four years ago and I struggle to trust God anymore and want nothing to do with any Christianity but I liked your video and I admire your research and passion. Your a legend mate.

I left the Pentecostal movement 2 years ago myself. Best thing I ever did was get into the scripture 2 Timothy 2:15. Great testimony!! Thank you!!

I want to tell you something that that happened to me. When I was in the 6th grade, my family attended the Pentecostal Holiness Church in Pacific Beach, San Diego. I wanted very much to put God first in my life. There were 2 very weird things that happened to me and it was NOT of the Holy Spirit ( I didn't know it at the time). One Friday night we were having a small group prayer-meeting A girl who was only a few years older than me was walking around " prophesying " as though she was speaking as God' mouth piece, while the rest of us were kneeling at the alter. She was saying things to the group like " You will be going to be Russia as missionaries blah blah blah. The weird thing was there were candles set up on the pulpit as the church lights were turned down low. The candles were flickering. The girl said " The candles are flickering because my presence is here (Meaning the Holy Spirit) I was a bit frightened but didn't want to question God. The other weird thing that happened was at a Wednesday night Bible study, I started jumping up and down saying " There is a God, There is a God! You better believe it folks!" I don't like drama so this was very strange and embarrassing. I now attend churches with educated and Godly truth speaking pastors.

Thank you so much for making this video. I'v thought this and felt this i believe God has been slowly revealing the truth to me. Everything you said has been my experience with pentecostal and charismatic preachers, and you said it all in such a way ive never been able to articulate or describe in a way that made sense to others. My entire side of the family on my moms side has this deep seeded history of being in the church, and even though they left, the damage that was caused is still felt to this day. I became a christian the summer of 2017, and i was pulled into false teaching from watching the christian channels on tv that my family still watches. I became a christian because i was convicted of sin from wacthing these channels, and I wanted God to change me, but as a new christian i fell hard for the prosperity gospel, because i just didnt know any better. I was starting to accept things that i didnt fully believe or understand, like i was being brainwashed into a cult. i went years wondering why i couldnt feel the holy spirit, and i didnt feel that strange spiritual ectasy that many of these people seemnd to have and thought something was wrong with me, and that if i only prayed hard enough, or study the word long enough everyday, then i might feel God like them.. i finally understand what the holy spirit is like now, the Spirit is not a feeling , he is there whether you feel him or not if your a christian. You hear a sort of whisper in your mind ,when you are convicted of something, and it cannot be explained. Whenever i questioned this i could never get an answer from people. Even though my family doesnt consider themselves pentecostal, they still are and dont realize it. i was angry at God, bitter because i felt uncared for that he did not show up the way other chrstians described it, but i DID get his attention and still do,. Hes been with me this whole time, Hes even guided me when i didnt realize , Gods spirit has been with me all along. Also when they act that way, they see that as "worship". You brought up the annointing word, and ive never really understood it. i just discovered the other day the truth about tithing, and would like to hear your interpretation of it. Thanks again so much, you truely are a blessing! Could you pray for me? Im young, i dont have wise older christians that give me good advice, i havent found a good church to go to yet, i struggle, there is sickness in my family.....

I am 73 years old and when I was in in my late teens I used to watch every Pentecostal preacher on tv but for some reason since I was in love with the scriptures , discernment show me that there was something very wrong with their theology. God really blessed you and open your eyes to the truth , i am so glad for you.

This messaged blessed me. I too was raised Pentecostal and it did nothing to prepare me for the world. I succumbed to the new age movement which Jesus saved me from over 20 years later. For the past 4 years I have been shepherded at a bible chapel church with expository preaching and spirit filled worship. I agree with you when you say that Pentecostalism has only *some truth. It can be a great place to be when on fire for the Lord, but not a healthy place to be to grow and mature.

I'm 68 years old and i've been a PENTECOSTAL believer for almost 45 years now. And i can say that our Theology/ doctrines are all based on the Word of God. We're experiencing in our pentecostal churches what the disciples of Jesus have experienced in the Book of Acts. We still believe that the power and manifestations of the Holy Spirit is still in the true church today. 1 Corinthians 2:4,5.. "And my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of mankind, but on the power of God." Therfore if the church where you belong does not believe and rejects the Gifts, Power, and manifestations of the Holy Spirit you're not in the True church of Jesus Christ.

Thank you for sharing. It has been a bit rough since we left Pentecostalism and also being Apostolic. But, it's true what you said, the God that I heard preached about many times growing up isn't the God of the Bible. He is loving, kind, tenderhearted and forgiving. People however were not. The God they preached many times was one of punishment and God who took pleasure in disciplining his children. To me it seemed like an abusive relationship. I couldn't understand why people would say, "This hurts, but I know God loves me and he only wants to perfect me, or take the bad out of me." I would be like, " I don't know about that. I'm not okay with this." Now, I can truly say I love God more now, than I did before. 🙏

Very good testimony sir. A few months ago, I got saved again and baptized in a Pentecostal church. I did have good experiences being in the fellowship, but overtime I realized some things weren't adding up. While they didn't go to a lot of the extremes that you explained in your video, they did teach things that didn't exactly line up with scripture. Like the second baptism of the Holy Spirit, and tongues being the initial evidence of it. In my own studies of the Bible, I've found no concrete basis for that to be what every believer should pursue. The basis for it from my pastor was that "It was the common denominator for what happened in Acts." When I asked my pastor about the day of Pentecost, he said they spoke in tongues, like what we are taught to be tongues being that gibberish or glossolalia tongues, but the crowd just heard it as their own language. When he told me this, I couldn't help but feel he was trying to twist what was written in Acts 2 to fit his narrative. Also the church I attended is apart of a mega church (with many churches around the world), and they make it a big deal to do more than tithe, as well as church attendance, to keep your salvation alive, and anything outside of their church would be viewed as 'living outside the will of God for your life.' Reading and studying the Word for myself is, ultimately, what led me to want to leave. Pastor believed that 'this is the devil leading me astray', but I do not feel comfortable being apart of what feels like false teaching of the Word.

This really hits home A huge inner conflict i had with the pentecostal movement was the claim that they have the anointing of the Holy spirit and being led by him etc but there is so much bad theology , doctrines, teachings etc how can this be since the Holy spirit is the spirit of truth and will lead you into all truth I still believe that the gifts are for today and haven't ceased , but that whole situation of the contradictions just ate me up

EXACTLY 💯 Great video!!!

Thank you for sharing your story This is helping me a lot and I do not want to get old before finally living in truth. Here are questions I have been pounding in my head for a year now, 1. How is Deuteronomy 22:5 used to say women wearing pants is a sin, when from my research the men and women in the bible all wore tunics? 2. Why is it a problem for a man to have long hair, when samson was used by God and his hair was his strength? 3. We all know the story about Jezebel. What validates the sin in wearing makeup based on what someone else did when they wore make up? 4. I remember going to the nail salon and only being able to get clear nail polish, not the one that had the blush tint to it. What's the difference in that than getting color? 5. Why is it a sin to go to the movies if we have TV's in our homes? I never understood that.

It depends. At my church the main preachers went to bible school. There are no seizures or dancing or whatever. I think it depends on the church.

Thank You for preaching this. I left Chuch of God 20 years ago.

Question 🙋🏽‍♂️ What about the “speaking in tongues/languages” in the household of Cornelius? Or the “speaking in languages” When Paul comes across those who were baptized by John, but not yet baptized by the Holy Spirit?

I was 25 years old in this picture. Loved my life, loved my church family, yet inside was terrified of dying and meeting God. 😭Night terrors, no direction on how to be able to speak in tongues, no direction on how to fix myself to be able to speak in tongues, believing God would forgive Hitler if he’d asked, yet for myself I came to believe God didn’t want me for some reason I couldn’t figure out. Salvation was supposed to be a free gift given by the God of Creation who came to this earth because of his great love for humanity - except for me. However, I still stayed year after year, church service after church service trying to show my devotion, and just somehow hoping he’d have mercy on me. In church for 15 years at this point. Do you know how many church services and Friday chapel services that is? 3️⃣,1️⃣2️⃣0️⃣. Here I was still trying to get myself saved. A babe in Christ when instead I should have been able to be weaned and eating meat of the word of God. Due to being taught we were “hindering” the Holy Spirit somehow if we couldn’t speak in tongues (which is nowhere taught in scripture BTW), I lived with my secret of shame and inadequacy. We were taught all had to speak in tongues to be saved instead of being taught that not all speak in tongues (I Cor 12:30). We were taught that there were two different types of tongues, but the sad part is this separation of tongue talking is also never specified in scripture. Notice I can’t give a scripture reference for this teaching. This speaks volumes. NOTICE WHAT THE BIBLE DOES AND DOESNT SAY! This was in no way living in God’s grace, love and assurance. I didn’t know his peace because I didn’t understand his word. I couldn’t have child-like faith. A stumbling block was in my path. That all changed last year! 🎵 I hear my old Pastor’s voice in my head singing these words… Peace, peace, wonderful peace Coming down from the Father above Sweep over my spirit forever, I pray In fathomless billows of love Now I can sing them too with a heart and mind full of understanding, and realize just how sweet it is to trust in Jesus. His yoke is easy and his burden is light. 🙏 Here are just a few of the scriptures that changed my life. Romans 10:8-🩷 ⚓️the Word is near you in your heart and in your mouth…Jesus is Lord…believe in your heart…declare with your mouth - Jesus is Lord and was raised from the dead, you will be saved. ⚓️With your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you profess your faith and are saved. Anyone who believes will not be put to shame. ⚓️Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. 👉Where does it say you are saved only after speaking in tongues? Scripture doesn’t say this, does it? So if I were to believe what I’d been taught how can one be justifief but “not saved yet”? Ephesians 1:13🩷 ⚓️You were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit. 👉Where does it say you are only included in Christ AND MARKED IN HIM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT after you speak in tongues? Scripture doesn’t say this, does it? So if I were to believe what I’d been taught how can one be included in Christ “but not saved yet”? Literally repeat this question for each scripture listed. I John 5:1-🩷 ⚓️Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. ⚓️Our faith is the victory that overcomes the world. ⚓️Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God. ⚓️:13 And this is the testimony God has given us eternal life: whosoever has the Son has life; and whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 👉When are you born of God? After speaking in tongues? NO! When you believe. NOTICE WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY AND DO NOY SAY. I John 1 & 2 ⚓️ Blood of Jesus purifies us from sin, confession of sins he forgives them, purified from all unrighteousness. 👉Where does it say you’re purified only after speaking in tongues? Scripture doesn’t say it. Hebrews 10:10 ⚓️we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ. 👉Where does it say you are made holy only after speaking in tongues? Scripture doesn’t say it. Acts 15:9 ⚓️he purifies the heart by faith. 👉How does he purify the heart? BY FAITH! It is not what you DO, and it does not say you are purified by speaking in tongues! When you start recognizing these very specific things you become set free. When you read the word of God as written you realize the Bible literally never says you know you’re saved only after you speak in tongues. What does it say over and over and over more than 200 times? Believe, trust, confess. Our faith makes us righteous just like it did Abraham (who was given the Gospel). ✝️The Bible doesn’t contradict itself, but it’s our understanding that’s the issue. It’s so simple a child can do it! God made it easy! Oh, I’m so relieved. 40 years it took to come to this realization. 🥹 God has been so good to me, and I’m so thankful he kept me! One day when I die it won’t be in fear of what’ll happen in eternity. I challenge anyone who believes tongues show salvation to do a word search on: justification, righteousness, sealed with the Spirit, and when these three things take place. SPOILER ALERT! There’s not one verse that says these take place after speaking in tongues. However, I do believe it’s important for each person to look it up themselves and be persuaded in their own mind. Don’t take anyone’s word for it especially when it comes to salvation. Blue Letter Bible is a fantastic study tool. www.blueletterbible.org/ 📖 To read my story (much more in depth), click on this link. It goes into more detail especially as I begin to dig into scripture that changed my life. facebook.com/share/p/6igyhcictSsdH2CS/?mibextid=WC7FNe 👀 To watch my testimony, click on the link below. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hd-kn7yUtsXHpZ8.htmlsi=6DRCktoKBEILK4RQ

Unfortunately, many have left the craziness of the Charasmatic movement, only to be ensnared in the terrible errors of Calvinism. I have seen this many times.

I am dealing w this now... so much ! Currently trying to write the letter to the pastor out of obedience to the truth of Gods word and commandment to walk in love towards him. I came to a meeting I called to discuss other scripture that relates to speaking in tongues (1corinthians 12,13,14 with a sincere heart,pen,paper,notes on scripture and a bible. He came already convinced I was a divisive,stumbling block to the church causing dissension ,confusion ,arguments,quarrel s. When I didn’t agree w him, he launched into”I rebuke you in the name of Jesus you spirit of division” my response was what are you doing (name) there is no spirit of division here. Much more transpired in the next hour including a unawareness of 1corinthians 12:30 . It seemed like he came to the meeting w a “spiritual” base All bat and began swinging my prayer is they receive the truth of missed or disregard of need for love, gentleness and kindness to be present when someone has valid questions and concerns about doctrines and they have dug into scripture. Pray he does not do this to a “ you g lamb” so to speak and does great harm. I was invited to stay only if I talk to no one about my scriptural studies on the subject and stop praying w individuals . He explained one more incident I’m out. I left voluntarily but have a huge burden for the pastoral staff

I currently go to a pentecostal church, however before I attended for 5 yrs a baptist church, in my case I know pretty well the theology and now I am experiencing a closeness with the Holy Spirit, awaiting to receive the real power of the baptism and the gifts. I had a pastor friend who recommended to go to a pentecostal church after you knew all your bible, maybe because you are not going to be ‘learning’ theology but actively seeking for the Holy spirit presence through prayer and fasting? However I do think that to have a very very good knowledge of the scriptures is def very important as well as having a closeness of his presence.

I have reasons for being Pentecostal! I am an outdoor Pentecostal evangelistic preacher here in NYC.

In pretence and in truth Christ is preached, it does sadden me, I would read Gods Word and it took church to take out all the good God put in, I’ve heard some dreadful things from the pulpit. So glad you’re addressing this it has damaged so many people and their lives. More demons in church today.

What is the best Bible study mythology. Not sure if there are books to help. I have John McArthur Study Bible. Any help would be appreciated. Gog Bless

As a Christian I visited one in Las Vegas for fellowship. After 8 visits the pastor found I didn't believe the same way as they did. He stood on the platform denouncing my belief in front of the congregation. Afterward he came to me to personally say I wasn't welcome anymore. What a shame, there is good people in there falling for deceit. I'm glad you got a revelation of Gods Word.

The fact of the matter is, you simply cannot look into the heart of a man or woman and judge whether or not it’s sincere or he’s not sincere, only God can look into the heart of man and judge that

Greetings. You’ve described the Pentecostal Movement but what about the more sober minded classical holiness movement and people. John Wesley wasn’t Pentecostal but He certainly preached holiness and was educated and knew his bible. While I’m not reformed I do appreciate your point of view. Yes I too find Pentecostalism troubling. I am trying to find a church that is in the vein of classical or reformational Arminianism. Blessings to you

Thank you, my brother! My church is affiliated with the IPHC. I will say that by and large, our pastor preaches truth. But, there is little to no doctrine being taught. I hesitate to approach the pastor with my concerns because when I have questioned a few elders about why we do things a certain way, they always respond that it's because that's the way the pastor wants it done 😮

Thank you so much.

This is so, so, on target. I know exactly what he is talking about. Experienced it too. Still have family trapped in this and don't know how to reach them.

I also have PTSD as does my daughter from a church like this. It was horrendous. We got out. Sadly, my marriage ended as he is still in it.

I was raised in a pentecostal church and, like you, I got saved and learned to study the Word INSPITE of the church, not because of it. I can't say I've learned anything from my church after sitting there for 30 years! I've never even heard a clear gospel message, only vague "you better get right with God or else" and fear mongering. I had to look for truth on my own. I want out but my husband doesn't want to church shop right now.

You are spot on . Thanks.

Thanks for good teaching, it's so true and so sad . They will not get it because their foundation is wrong. It was never a movement from God of the bible The understanding of speaking in tongues and filled with the Holy spirit is the main reason and they are open for everything who happens

Growing up in the Pentecostal church, I began to notice things as a young Christian that didn’t line up, I brought it to leadership but they could not really give me a biblical answer. I don’t consider myself a Pentecostal anymore. Many churches have done great work and have lead many to Christ, and our of a world of darkness but, so much is lacking.

God is looking for those who will worship Him in spirit and in truth

In my own theological journey, everything seems to be pushing me towards the Orthodox Church, or at least a reformed tradition like Lutheranism. I'm tired of the cults, they are under a lying spirit.

The discernment I had from God and from His word is explained completely in this video. Thank you God for your word and discernment. Praise the Lord that I walked out of that church. AMEN

I'd been in Upc for 30 yrs. I'd experienced pain and trouble even in inflict with my leaders. As time went onI found out the word and promises od God is true. Getting more closer more obedient more Holy Spirit filed each day to Jesus Christ. In fear of the Lord. Obey the teaching of Jesus Christ given to the apostles.

It takes a lot to put yourself out there for the criticism that was sure to follow. I completely agree that often the Biblical texts are not correctly interpreted. It has led to huge misunderstandings across the board. But this is true for numerous groups, not just Pentecostals. I could never leave the Pentecostal experience, as I have seen healings and miracles. I have seen the gifts of the Spirit work and while they are abused and misused, that does not mean that they should be abandoned. These are not salvation issues though, so we can agree to disagree. When we are worshipping in Heaven, it won't matter. All of our sorrows and cares will be forever gone. I can't wait for that day to come. God bless you as you work in God's kingdom

Most churches have their own identity and often times they have Evangelists in the place of Pastors .This always ends up being a disaster because the Sheep need a Shepard to feed them . Some in ministry pick a favorite minister and try to copy them and you know how that ends . How can one go if they aren't sent ?

It is fascinating to hear some people use the word 'grace' as a replacement for 'Holy Ghost'. Some people even use a capital 'G'. Grace is God's unmerited favor. It is definitely true that none of us could be saved from the coming judgment without grace. Thankfully, God extended his grace by sending his Comforter in the form of the Holy Ghost so that we can be saved.

God bless you! Your testimony is very similar to ours...

Now you have been given the gift of Calvinism. Congratulations.

Dad grew up in Apostolic Oneness churches in Mississippi. He got out as soon as he moved to Indiana for the factory jobs.

I think some Pentecostal churches focus in speaking in tongues but I do not see anyone doing discernment of spirit if the tongues are legit. 33:23 you are absolutely right