You are the first person I've seen talk about this, interesting ideas & very curious how Apple will use this. Although I was under the impression that thread networks kind of rely on devices staying stationary. The reason the mesh works is because the network assumes to get from point A to point C it needs to hit point B in between. If your mesh is moving around, that route may no longer be optimal.

I’m glad you’re talking about Thread! I spotted it on the spec sheet and no one has been mentioning it!

This has been one of my favorite smart home KZfaq channels for a very long time! Keep up the good work!

Subbed. This is another reason I jumped to the IPhone a year ago, its about the software.

Thank you! You are the ONLY person I have seen talking about this so far. All the famous tech youtubers aren’t even mentioning it. I don’t even think they know. 🙄 I’ve been wanting Thread in a phone for at least 6 months, so this is big to me. I was going to upgrade anyway, but this seals it for sure.

Literally, no one talks about this. Thank you for notice to me.

While I recognize there's a more significant barrier to entry for users when it comes to Home Assistant... many of these things you can already do. Like automations based off of when you leave your home. I have my HA set up to widen my ecobee thermostat range when it detects that my phone isn't connected to my home wifi. I can also set up plugs and light automations based off my phones status. HA works flawlessly for me.

Ever since the homepod mini i would always think "it would be so cool if apple put thread radios in the iphone- nah they're never gonna do that" happy to be wrong

Thanks 🙏 so much for the info. I hadn’t heard yet about thread in the 15.

I noticed this too while watching the Apple event, sad that they didn’t elaborate on it or even mention it. Good find Eric your the first to report on this feature keep of the good work brother.

When I first saw the title to this video I was confused because I wondered what Apple could be doing with a social network (shows you how much I use it or any social network for that matter.). Then I started watching and quickly realized and became very interested....

Yeah, super pumped about this. I was already wanting the Pro ... now I want it more!

Great video Eirc! You are the Only one for now who addresses these things! 3:59 Do you can tell me the model of this Magsafe stand/charger?

I’m hoping for location based abilities down to when I enter a room or where my phone is. Home knowing where I am in proximity to a hub.

I caught them saying it, but I didn't know what it was. This was great! Thank you.

Nice video, I didn’t catch this during the event. Thanks. I’m getting the 15 pro max!

Great thought! Looking forward to use iPhone directly connect to the thread device.

I admittedly missed this. Those are 3 exciting applications! I need to talk to you as I explore homekit more. 😅

Thanks for the explanation. I was curious why it said thread. Thanks

This is awesome!! I cant wait to see what happens with this!

In my experience Thread connectivity absolutely sucks. My smart switches often will not reconnect after a power outage etc. It’s a complete pain. Do not expect Thread to work really well.

Hi Eric, thanks for info …the Verge podcast was struggling to find uses… ps where did you get your light on the desk please?

Hi Eric, Nice explanation. However the comparison between Thread and BT does not make sense. The BT Mesh network is optimised for smart home and networking applications and thread shares many similarities in that case, devices like Airpod only BT LE which is not for many to many connections.

Thanks Eric. I saw ‘and thread’ on the slide. Wondered why they didn’t say anything about it.

This and the new neural engine! Very excited to see the new possibilities and on board processing.

Thank you for your video, Eric. interesting question that makes more difficult the decision of choosing between regular mothers and pro models this year. Regards

I hope they also add the thread radio to iPads, so they can be again home border routers

Excellent graphics! 👋🏻

Hi Eric, thnx for the video! I was wondering if you have found a way to know if the iPhone 15 Pro is actually using thread when using for example the home app when controlling thread devices. When I look in the Eve app, I can see the thread devices in my home (such as Eve Energy & Belki Wemo) but also a lot of unidentified 'Router XX' where XX is 2 digit hexadecimal code in 'unknown room'. I guess many of them are my HomePods & Apple TV... But... I can't fine more details. Any ideas?

I wonder if thread support is to also help make the iPhone more useful in its nightstand setting. Considering Matter might take a year or two to really gain traction, having thread feature in every iPhone right away may not be that attractive for Apple.

Very interesting.

Oooo, I missed that! That is exciting. I really feel like Apple needs to step on the gas again with Apple Home. Matter just hasn’t really Improved my smart setup.

now I am a little more pumped about the 15 pro, all my lights are Philips hue which use thread so would be interesting to see how much better the HomeKit experience is

I’m happy with thread on my eve products and in the eve app for updates but it asks me to upgrade to matter and I’m honestly like nah I know it’s going to break my system.

What about IR blaster vs Threads? Pls reply

I hope you do videos with HomeKit and playing it together with PoE (Power over Ethernet).

I was too lazy to set up home assistant on a vlan to make it secure. So I just use thread and hope that apple did some proper job implementing the firewall for their thread border router functionality. So far it works flawlessly and devices reconnect quite quickly when taken off and on power. On the other hand I really dislike that matter supports wifi as is. So if you just want to add a device using the QR code and you accidentally bought a wifi device apple will just connect it directly to your home wifi.

Hi Eric. First, it''s just great to see you back at your old cadence of videos. Your channel is IMO the best HomeKit content available and the community needs you! And this is a great video. I'd not heard about Thread support in the new iPhone and am intrigued by the possibilities like you are. While I feel that WiFi should in theory be able to be as responsive as true mesh networks, I've never found this to be the case. Devices still have trouble acquiring or "unsticking" from an access point, and migrating from access point to access point. With Thread, it seems like you could use the Thread mesh to more reliably and more responsively initiate actions (like scenes) in HomeKit and automations, just like you indicated. And that the Thread mesh should be more responsive in many (maybe most) cases than WiFi, like Zigbee can be, where every node can effectively be an access point to the mesh network and route to the other parts of the network, including to the border router, which can then access your main home network and to cloud services. Very interesting possibilities here.

I am anxiously waiting for my iPhone 15 Pro to arrive, and I think standby mode is a great new feature. I LOVE the MagSafe stand you are using (seen at around the 4:00 point). Can you tell me if it will work with the iPhone 15 Pro, or if the camera bump with get in the way.

How about instead of thinking of the iPhone as a thread router, it’s actually a thread device on the network, like a light bulb. It’d be great if the iPhone, iPad, and Mac become home accessories on the thread network. I’d love to create a HomeKit “movie scene” that turns off my iMac display and sets my iPad and iPhone to do not disturb focus mode before playing a movie on my Apple TV. 🧐

Thanks Eric, great info! I've been an Android phone user since the G1 back in 2008 but I'm starting to feel the "force of apple" drawing me in. 😅 I use Home Assistant and actually utilize the Homekit integration to bring in certain devices that I otherwise wouldn't be able to. Hmmm... will there actually be an 🍎 in my future? 🤔

Ok. So what you actually can do with thread built in your iPhone?

I'm so excited to see your input for the Thread radio for the new iPhones have it now on top of the HomePod Mini & Apple TV. What do you think about the Second-generation Ultra Wideband chip in the new iPhone 15 & 15 Pro series and the latest Apple Watches?

Thread not to be confused with the twitter copycat app threads lol😂

Nicely spotted Eric! Can't wait for tighter integration with Siri. I'd love for Siri to recognise I've got home and sends me automatic requests and suggestions.

ARE THEY ADVERTISING WI-FI 6E???

I have been using HomeKit for years, and it feels like no-one at apple uses it because of how awful it is. I had hope that matter and thread would make a difference, but honestly it has only made it worse. With the current thread implementation you end of up with splintered routers everywhere it is crazy so many large companies involved with this can't make a standard that works. I don't need or want another thread device from apple I just want them to make work what they have.

Do people forget an iPad can be the home hub? (Not that it’s the best option by any means)

They’re going to do nothing with it and when they finally figure it out, it will only be supported on a newer iPhone.

It only took 2 years longer than necessary to get 6E. Wi-Fi 7 will be certified standard at the end of the year. We should've had 6E on iPhone 13 Pro series and Thread on the 14 Pro series. It just feels like Apple doesn't care about connectivity at all (Lightning USB 2.0 since 2012). I have no clue why we never got a Lightning USB 3.0 upgrade around 2017. It's really annoying because connectivity improvements are essential on Pro devices especially when you consider the price tag of the Pro iPhones, it's not like they have limited margins to worry about!

The iPhone 13 Pro Max is what the iPhone 12 Pro should’ve been. & the iPhone 15 Pro Max is what the iPhone 14 Pro Max should’ve been.

1:20 these nano leaf bulbs are so not worth the money in my opinion, they flicker, loose connection, turn off, turn on by themselves, get super bright for a few seconds, then goes dark. Totally haunted house light bulbs. 🙅🙅‍♀️🙅‍♂️

Thread AirPods???? You might be like “why not Bluetooth/BLE?” To that…… I don’t know…. Get back to me on that

In the end they can control your home! No thanks.

I’ve never actually run into the problem where I need this to have a good experience to turn on the lights. My workaround is an advanced technique known as “flipping the light switch”, it’s a tough one to master but it’s well worth it imo, saves on money and works immediately 100% of the time, plus it doesn’t require me to talk to a machine to turn on the lights (thus filling the air with sounds that can interrupt what others are doing around me)

Every thread product I’ve bought has been a disaster so far. They all have terrible connectivity, which is supposed to be a strength. And I have like 10 new HomePods and 5 new 4k apple tv’s around my house so the “thread network” can’t be the reason for the fails

It’s just a network sniffer. Lol

LOL

Whoever uses Threads sure loves to give up their privacy.

Garbage 😂😂😂

Bro this phone is horrible. Stop following trends SMH....

Another ploy to get a standard and money in perpetuity for a system . Why would anyone use Bluetooth when they should be connected to all their devices through their local lan anyway dude? More frequencies and WiFi failures to happen. Everything you have described can be done already and have been for awhile . Sorry but the 15 is the basic generic filler phone until 2025