And one more thing: I don't enjoy making negative videos. But negative videos are the only ones that can be honest at the moment. Riot MMO, please save us all :(

I appreciate honest people like you man, it's so rare these days.

11:09 An MMO That Respects Your Time

Thanks for being a genuine person all the time ❤ , we need more ppl like that not just in gaming but in general

are u playing naraka then ? or mlbb, best game

The honest truth is that "the grind" is no longer considered acceptable by the community anymore. If you have to grind TOO much for something people hate it now. They expect to have "resets" to just get in play, and leave. Little to no long term progression.

thanks for the content so far neeko. it really helps me thru some tough times. i wish u the best in ur future endeavour. ill still be lurking in ur stream here and htere :)

Will you come back to Lost Ark? They seem to be making some changes

Great video and lets hope it will get better :)

I agree wholeheartedly mate, other than the Riot MMO which we wont get till '25 at the earliest anything else ur looking forward to playing more in the near future?

Good video Nokee, I agree with most of what you said

Subscribed for the truth bombs! I keep looking for a MMO to play and find nothing so I've started going back purchasing good single player games I never played on sale.

good vid , especially Quin part :D

Kinda saw this coming since stream times are really even short where in it was obvious that you didnt really enjoy the games anymore but that's alright maybe at some point you will be back and enjoy playing MMOs again. See ya soon Neeko!

In the same boat and please let us know when you find the next game worth our time and energy!

Hey Neeko I think it's about time you made a video about Lost Ark Jump start that's happening on tuesday :)

Hey Neeko, there is one mmo that might excite you. Have you head of Pax Dei?

I would love to hear your opinions on the changes WoW has made for the content structure. I mean: Classic Cataclysm, Retail, Plunderstorm, and now MoP Remix. There's never been this much WoW before. I'm not trying to get you to come back, I would just like your thoughts on it. Subscribed btw.

Finaly a streamer who is not sold out, you need some balls to say the truth that is there is no good content to work with palain and simple, good job bro keep up

So many great points made. From the bottom of my heart I hope you find something or some way to enjoy it again. You're a passionate guy and you wear your heart on your sleeve, it can be a pretty rough ride if you arent detached and jaded. Wishing only the best on your journey and will be watching along the way 💜🐐

This video woke me up. I dropped all my items in bdo and uninstalled, and I’m moving on as well. I’m not joking I had pen bs mainhand and awakening but I dropped it all because you’re right. I’m tied to something that isn’t really good just because there’s nothing else and that’s completely wrong. Thanks for waking me up!!!

Very true. MMOs are losing their edge and honestly any advantage they used to have when games like Elden Ring and other multiplayer titles that are actually good and fun to play exist. With MMOs you get maybe get a great game at the core, but then rampant p2w, nonsense design decisions like endless boring dailies in Lost Ark that only exist to pressure you into spending money, grinds because they have to pad out the gameplay somehow as an MMO, all ruin the experience. Most of your time is spent doing chores rather than having fun and it's tiresome.

In regards to RMT-ing being socially accepted... I think it was more like resignation rather than people accepting it. Because people saw a lot of RMTers getting away with cheating, or getting some temporary bans and they will be back, retaining all of their stuff. I know guys that RMTed, got banned for like 3 months, and then they cam back and still have their full lv10 gems and other shit. Also, the in-game RMT system didn't help with people's perception of RMT either. Because IMO, I see no difference between the in-game RMT Bezos system and the RMT from Ugandan secret traders (bot farmers) other than the later selling gold 3-4 times cheaper.

How is Albion Online?

One of few streamers with legitimate integrity. Best stream to hang out in for always reasonable and down to earth takes

Ashes of creation will release in 2030 but unreal engine 9 is out then they will port again😅

love the mario kart soundtrack in the back xdd

Thanks for keeping it real

Maybe try Baldurs Gate 3 its different but i think it could be enyoable when it relases in september. Ha nevermind i watched it to the end u have already considered :D

Refreshing to see a content creator actually valuing their own and their audiences time. Great video, I'm sick of people who spent thousands of hours in a game and are to emotionally invested trying to convince others that it's a good game. Also the burger analogy is spot on, but the reality is that every game company today have the "do you guys not have phones" mentality. We are cash cows nothing else.

You slept on Mabinogi. One of the greatest games especially around that era.

TBH i think Content creators play these games to much they ruin it for themselves. idk i think when its your job to play games( even on days you might not feel like ) you tend to start to decline in happiness and enjoyment. remember when you had work/school/chores then what you did for enjoyment/free time was play a game. when your enjoyment hobby is unlimited and non stop i think it will dull no matter how amazing the game. Gl Neeko

Man I went to gw2 and I know why I hate other mmos so much just to point out you can get best gear by doing raid , explore , crafting, arena and even 100 vs 100 vs 100 and when I say best gear those gears are for all so if you finished getting you legendary accessories they are for all the account so yeah I am so happy I went back

completely agree with everything you said... well said sir!

I agree with you. so what if a lot of games come out like most are secondary garbage based in 99% on ideas that have already been. mmo games have reached the wall. they did it to themselves. wanted to eat the cake and have it too. slow development, but not too slow. possible to speed up for money. the game is supposed to consume your time and engage you but not too much because you have a job and a life so everything was done to get around it. microtransactions and mechanics that are supposed to make you addicted, not fun, but addictive. constantly playing on emotions and the feeling that if you don't play, you lose something. society will change and bend and everyone will play these dopamine games or mmo games will die and we will wait 10 years again for the next wave/mode.

Thanks god. Dont come back please

youre a real one

You have balls brother, I really liked your video, you say things that are totally real, like the fact that people have no standards, absolutely none, we can even take it to something tangible, on steam approximately 80% of people buy 5 games a year (I dare say that they probably don't play any of those games that they bought) and they spend their time playing the little free to play multiplayer game of the moment for thousands of hours until another game comes out and each one is worse than the last, and this generates that his perspective and his criteria are worth the same as a pile of shit, I don't know if you saw last year's game awards, many people nominated genshin impact as game of the year, brother it's crazy when I found it beyond ridiculousness it was the fact that stray got so far to the point of being nominated for the best indie game of that year with the indie gems that came out in 2022, a completely scripted game, boring in general... 0 game design. And now speaking of mmos, bdo is the only one that I really liked, but the game is completely broken, it doesn't make any sense to play it, there is nothing wrong with giving things to the new player, but they reached such a point of facilitating the game that in two days you already have your equipment "tuvala" in pen and that can be transformed into tet boss equipment which allows you to access almost all the content of the game without any problem, apart from the fact that the areas with less ap give more silver than those with more ap, in centaurs that do not ask for anything, you can get a billion an hour and in most 250+ spots you get about 200 million, it is a game in which you grind to improve equipment that you are not going to use, Not even casual pvp to win spot now practically exists, people enter the marnis realm and the problem is over and nobody fights spot, which was quite exciting, all multiplayer games are meaningless lately and it's because people basically don't ask for anything , as long as it looks pretty and the gameplay is visually attractive and you press several buttons is enough.

Times change with you or without you. In Not a fan of most of the stuff either but it is what it is

mmorpgs used to be the genre with big open worlds, pvp, co-op roleplaying, social interaction 20 yrs ago etc but other genres like single player rpgs, arpgs, monster hunter and BRs caught up in game size and features that mimic what mmos did in the past. with how risky it is to make a mmorpg i dont think the genre will innovate in any meaningful way

Thanks for being there to support all of us in our views as well. This is how you generate a true fan base - with authenticity. I'll always be there to check out what you are up to. Peace.

For sure you have a complex understanding on gaming then the average user, a break is always good as well to get the full picture 💯

can't wait for throne and liberty 💀

Haven't you learned from Throne and Liberty yet? Having high hopes on Riot's mmo when we barely know anything about it.

Another month another i quit video. Cant wait for the next chapter!

I'm hyped for Remnant 2 atm, I only play mmo stuff with friends tbh, the actual mmos themselves tend to suck.

Back to your roots bro. In my opinion you are a pvp player at heart. You could try out Eternal Return which just had it's Season 3 start. You could play Naraka Bladepoint which just went full F2P and had PS5 release. Baldur's Gate 3 also just released. Same as Remnant 2.What about Street Fighter 6? Go hit Master dude, what are you waiting for.

Based. Took the words out of my mouth after having watched the force gaming video on MMO's myself.

Time to start your fighting game era

25:40 This shit is too true

just be a variety streamer tbh nowadays its the same with almost every other game that has been released. Or will be released the Quality of all games are rlly bad. Some games getting released and pple have to pay the full price for it but at the same time it isnt a full game/early access. Or the game has end game issues like u have to wait months to get new end game content. At the end of the day just play whatever u enjoy and move from there. I kinda took a break from FPS/shooter games its literally the same. Like charging pple paying 60/70$ for a game which isnt fully done is a joke. But yeah u have this on basically every kinda game genre.

Bro great vid, sadly companies now adays cant move fast enough to fix/overhaul things… it has to go through a bunch of people before they can fix things… a very sad state of video games in general.

Agreed 100%

Facts

I have felt the same in recent times. Most MMORPG's out there are basically copy paste of one another, really the only two that have ever stand out for me were BDO and ArcheAge, everything else just feels like a WoW wannabee. If those are my options, i would just rather stick to WoW than starting a whole new MMORPG that is basically just a different skin. For years now most of these games have been all made on the same formula, one that worked quite well back in the day but honestly at this point it has gotten stale and most of us are looking for something completely new that would hold our attention for more than a few days to a month.

At last someone said it.

Love the quin69 copium bag :)) so glorious and true !!

Can't wait for Quin to react to this and triple the fuck down like always ICANT

Depresso espresso are we. It is what it is.

playing remnant 2 when it drops and street fighter. you buy the characters and if you suck you lose. try it out.

❤

I want to play a mmorpg,but in 2023 there is nothing great :/ I think i’m just going to play some good old wine like Lotro and just enjoy the game with the comunity. Better than grinding for shit or pay 2 win i guess 😅

Diablo IV just looks like a world of just chaos dungeons.

You will never get the same experience as your 1st mmo you played. When people do something repeatedly we our brain doesnt release as much dopamine to endure that, specialy when its a game and this not affect your real life.

i mean why would they care about some ones opinion , even if biggest streamers do the same noone fixes anything , they will never start fixing game by reading or watching community posts

Dont be worried about being "negative"! You are so right. Vanilla wow-KING. Games just arent good anymore.

Dude, join Hardcore Vanilla World of Warcraft ^^ Sword art online vibes

Maybe try street fighter 6, it's fun

Spot on and right in my feels.

who?

It's all slop for pig gamers who eat it up.

Honestly IMO ppl wont care much about p2w if the system around it arent that stingy, for example early days of lost ark. But smilegate make every other aspect of lost ark as toxic as possible with insane degree of RNG and time needed to grind, and AGS keep pushing contents so fast is the best combination at making a toxic game.

Riot mmo please save us all!

ICANT

ash stay in ash, u cant create when its already turning to dust

no need to change. youtube is about selling content. people sell their soul to get subs and all . most stuff is like watching an indepth ad anyway . i think you do great!. stay yourself and f the rest xD

If upcomming mmorpg is not an action combat like black desert or new world its a pass for me... i dont care much in mouse clicking games, story amd etc. I just want solid, fun pvp mmo😂

I also thik Ashes is at minimum 5 years out from even a playable beta but i hope i am wrong.

ye neeko im following you since years alrdy because i think we are very like minded but clearly you have lost your mind completely recently and cant find any joy anymore, something good in overall meh games to enjoy xdd so yeah cya in 2 weeks probably in bdo xdd

B1 with the river bud thanks for your takes, whenever I hear bullshit about a mmo. I think what would neeko2lo say LuL ( my eyes stay low when I’m watchin’ my homie neeko2lo xD!!!)😂👌🏾

MMO's before world of warcraft brought their own innovation to the growing genre and WoW in a sense mastered it and brought a lot of advancement. After that, no MMO game has advanced the genre in any significant way.

Agree with you, Neeko. I don't know why it seems there's no spectrum between cult-like following and doomer. Just recently quit Lost Ark myself, but I can't see any other MMO to come back to except maybe FFXIV (because of their very newbie -friendly community). Also, there was a video of Kanon asking content creators to rate Diablo4, and I vaguely remember barely anyone rated it 7/10 or lower. Ask them now: do they seriously believe that with the gameplay and the recent patch of D4?

Man, its so funny to see haw ppl from other MMOs are being shitted on by the devs over and over again, and even if they do learn, they just cope. I guess I'll keep watching ppl get disappointed and sad that there is no good MMO and all the MMOs they invest their time and energy in, dont actually have any respect for their time so they end up wasting it. All this while Im actually enjoying what seems to be the only game left that respects its players and is not overly greedy. From my perspective, Gw2 has continued to become better and better, offering so much variety that its really impossible for me to get bored of it. And all this is bcz instead of doing what every other MMO did, by adding vertical progression and calling it content, gw2 added horizontal progression, which means they actually expanded the game mechanics, systems, combat features, game modes, QoL and so on (basically expanding WHAT your character can do and HAW, instead of giving it a bigger POWER NUMBER). All the content is this game feels handcrafted and made with actual passion (something you havent seen in a while by playing all those mainstream hype based cash grabs). So yeah, even tho all games have flaws and gw2 has its fair share of them. I think having the devs actually respect your time and see them put passion in their game, prioritising content quality over profit is the most important thing when it comes to any game not just MMOs. At least some ppl are starting to wake up about all the greed happening in the MMO space, and the abusive psychological strategies that MMOs are using to keep their players grinding and spending, so I guess thats a good thing.

the godliest doomer known , lets.fucking.GOOOOOOOOO

True as fook mate and based

MMOs have been like this since 1996 and even before, the only difference is the internet, you will probably be waiting for a good MMO until 2100.

Neeko be coming back in 2 years, he's gonna move to Japan , jacked, wife, 3 kids and will never play games again.

Yeah, I undertand you. You fell in a pit where nothing can bring you happiness in video games, and that sucks because its a work to you as well. My advice, pick something that doesnt bore you to death and use your free time to do something that brings you joy, like playing guitar or visiting new places or something...

before release everyone was like diablo 8/10 lol

I think that you made a great video. What you said is understandable and you as person might also changed over the years and see gaming with a different perspective. One thing which is sure 2 say I do like you as person and content creator and I’m there 2 support you! Your decision 2 stop playing MMOs might be the right decision. I personally like still MMOs but also do love single rpgs. My personal favourite is still BDO and probably it is going 2 be for a long while, 2 realise that this is the case for me actually makes me happy because that means that I don’t feel sad or desperate for something new, instead I’m happy 2 try new games out and if don’t like em as I didn’t like recently Lost ARK I just go back 2 BDO and quit. I feel sry for everyone out there that don’t have any game they like and keep all day long complaining about it. To all those ppl I say do it like Neeko sometimes if you are unhappy you have 2 move on that’s how life is. Thank you for all your content brother I love you ❤(Phow)

Btw i just made a video on how bad bdo is

Feel the same way, was thinking of avoiding all F2P grinders and playing good pay once games for a while. Who knows maybe ill come back when we get a good one. Either way im not too bothered, a lot more to life than gaming. PS. Content creators who constantly tout how a trash game is gonna be the next best thing have usually been paid off. Blizzard 100% does this

Play Path of Exil it changes every 3 months and you have new content

Gaming is a busniss its not too entertain anymore,

Neeko, you are one of my favorite. You really are a super genuine and honest person, I really appreciate that. I do hope you don't quit content creation altogether. I feel the exact same way about MMOs, about Lost ark, and even stuff like p2w being more socially acceptable, achievments not meaning so much anymore. If I may suggest something for you - there is still a genrea that still doesn't have P2W, that has amazing SSS+ tier PvP, that rewards you for putting in the work, time, and effort, and is actually an honest great fun.. please please I know this will sound silly, but I beg you, try out Street fighter 6. I know this is out of left field, but I really do think you may find there what you were searching for. SF6 is a new game, lots of new unskilled people to play against, it's very accessible, you can even play it on a keyboard as they've made inputs a lot more lenient.. heck, it even has Modern mode where you don't have to do any special inputs. Open up Sajam stream check what an excellent community FGC is, pick a character that looks cool, and just try it out. There are a lot of people that would help out in learning it, and it's not even that hard. You don't have to be even that good at it to enjoy it, as the main enjoyment comes from getting better. P.S. If you want i can personally coach you or help you get into the genre if you've never tried it, let me know if you're at all interested. I've played since 2011~, I'm in EU as well. You can even stream the coaching if you wish. Cheers

play oldschool runescape ;)

Good luck bro, I have been quitting MMOS for like 10 years now :D

And for the p2w aspect, I totally agree. I just spend money on games like Vampire Survivors, Halls of Torment etc. that offer me a GAME, not a monetization strategy.

I hear that you are a fellow Made in Abyss enjoyer :D

Players' complacency with mediocrity is only half the issue. Devs are proud and arrogant as well and take feedback from their dedicated audience for granted. Case in point: D4 devs blocking people providing constructive, non-toxic criticism on Twitter. Can't wait to hear why we're all wrong during their next campfire chat this Friday :)