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I was in a terrible relationship with a very good person once. We should have never gotten together, but for some reason she did. Back then, I was definitely the know-it-all. Correcting everyone, everywhere we went. We broke up, but remained friends. After a while, she sat me down and said, "We need to talk. Well... I'm going to talk. You need to listen. My friends--all of them--dislike you. Sometimes, I dislike you. You're loud and you think everything you say is correct, funny, witty and you're always proud of your stupid points that no one else cares about. You're a great guy, and you are smart, but no one cares. Because you're obnoxious. And sometimes, that's hard to look past. And for some people, they won't bother trying. You need to change. You're not as great as you think you are." That wasn't verbatim, but it was pretty much the sum and tone of what she said. Shortly after she told me off, we broke contact and I never talked to her again. Not because I didn't want to. Because she didn't. I moved to a different state. I did this to get away from my problems. Lo and behold, they followed me. Why? Because I was the problem. Her words chipped away at me every time one of the problems I ran away from popped back up. Eventually, I realized everything she had said was right. I decided to become a more mindful person and be more respectful of other people in the room. That was 24 years ago. What she told me that day, I needed to hear. I wouldn't be the person I am today if she hadn't said it. I'm glad she did. I wish I could thank her.

While we’re all very excited for Finn to be a dad, let’s not forget that he’s been our dad this whole time.

Wait until metalheads find out you don’t have to dress a certain way to listen to a certain type of music. Brains exploding

As someone with autism, it's really bad how many people don't have social skills or emotional intelligence. So many people just want to feed their ego. Whether online or irl, it's depressingly common how many people want to be toxic, and then flip out when you call them out on it.

Being only into one genre would get so exhausting for me, im actually happy when i get into a genre i wasnt into cause now i can deep dive that genre also!

I was 19 or 20 and there was a cute older girl in my group of work friends, occasionally we'd all go out and grab lunch at the bar next to our office. She got married young and was going through a divorce. We had talked about music here and there, she said she liked rock and metal. One day our department was let out early and she invited me to her place because she "wanted to check out my music collection." My clueless ass proceeded to actually show her the music I was into for a little over an hour before she had to go pick up her kids. Only looking back years later did I realize that she didn't actually give a shit about the music and I was the most oblivious fucking dork on the planet. Being a metal head should count as a psychiatric disorder.

I think the takeaway is not to be too obsessed with any one thing whether that’s metal, smoking pot, anime, video games etc. Liking any of these things is fine. It’s when you take that one thing and base your entire personality around it. It makes a person insufferable and possibly more likely to be offended when someone doesn’t like what they like because they take it as a personal rejection when it’s not that serious.

I love metal music... with that being said im beyond thankful that I was raised to be completely open minded to all music... my grandpa was in a local jaz band in Dayton my whole childhood, and when I got old enough I started playing bass and he told me that all music whether you're a listener or a creator is based off your own feelings and emotions, and even if I don't understand some of it, I have a deep respect for all music because of it

Being the 39 year old black guy that was introduced to metal in high-school, I can honestly say I love the genre...but the fans leave a lot to be desired in my experience. ESPECIALLY online.

Finn: "I hate being a closed-minded, judgemental know-it-all so much that I turned it into a career."

I was diagnosed autistic in middle school. Now at 25 I am really looking back at how I’ve acted my whole life and I was very much like this. Glad I’ve started trying to change, but I’ve got a long way to go.

I learned this lesson a long time ago and far too late. I've have irreparably damaged many relationships because of it and it sucks. Realizing you're the problem when someone stops talking and wanting to hang out, is one of the worst feelings i've ever had.

True masculine friendship consists of roasting your friends regularly

Rick Beato may be the internet's ambassador for all things music theory and composition but you sir are single handedly cleaning the virgin energy out of heavy music one therapy session at a time.

15:48 A mom of a friend of mine told me a way to have conversations when she was in an office job was to pick a team from major sports leagues and keep up with the games. I took that advice and that has helped me become less ostracized at my new job. I also found out a new favorite sport to watch in the process.

This applies to so many little niche fandoms. Couple of other subreddits that I follow are brutal because there such a high amount of ‘well askshually’ people. Especially when its not even facts like ‘this album came out in 1997’. But its subjective shit where the gatekeepers are not only correcting people but they arent even correcting facts, just assumptions.

I think most of us had the same or similar high school experience as the one you described in this video. 23 y/o college student here... I too didn't want to be friends with anybody who didn't listen to metal, I hated everything that didn't have blast beats and crazy solos when I was 15 - 16, I too thought I was superior to everyone else and looked down upon others... But then I just kinda grew up a little, haha. College opened me up as well... Met lots of different people with different interests and I just grew on my own as well. My social skills improved, I still dress metal from time to time, but I mix that with a classy "normie" look (you don't have to wear Mayhem shirts all the time) and I got into fragrances, so I'm getting compliments on my smell rather than weird looks on my shirts, lol! So the problem with metal fans is that they stay in the "teen angsty-rebellion" phase for too long... Sometimes they learn from bad experiences or they just stay that way. Everyone needs to figure that out on their own.

You know what, maybe I shouldn't have made Discordance Axis my entire personality when I was 15-- woulda been cool having friends lmao.

It's a strange irony that the people that make metal music are far more open minded to other genres than the fans of metal

I’m 31 and this channel helped me realize how much I have embodied the “boomer” model of behavior. It honestly feels like stepping out of a fog. So I try to ask younger people I work with what kind of music they’re into, instead of constantly shitting on it and discouraging them. I appreciate what you do Finn🤙

Following Finn’s channels I’ve learned to poke fun at myself for certain music tastes but still appreciate it and also got into more punk and hardcore because of him. It’s okay to be into different music but it doesn’t make you better or worse than anyone else either. It’s also okay to like a genre of music and not every artist pertaining to that genre

in an alternate universe, Finn had a blog called Pop Punk Inquisition and he got shit by his readers every time he wrote about metal

The problem of the mindset of metalheads is definitely a thing that happens in real life and not just about music. You put it together really well on this one Finn. Back when I was in high school and during academy as well, I used to despise other people's music taste and trash it as much as I could. I'm not that person anymore. I changed for the better and to socialize with people in a good way. Well said. 👏

I totally was that jackass in high school and constantly sought out stuff to just further validate my opinion. As I got older, I grew out of that mindset and stopped caring so much about what others like or dislike. Furthermore, I no longer felt I needed others to validate my opinion or taste in music. If I enjoy it, thats all that matters, and if somebody else dislikes it, thats ok.

Your videos have helped me a lot with keeping my annoying tendencies in check and not making the music I listen to my personality. So thank you 🙏

it took me almost 30 years to cut it out but i eventually did. it took someone straight up telling me to my face that I had a bad personality, which hurt at the time, but honestly i should thank them. ill never forget it

I've learned from personal experience that making fun of something that has meaning to others, even though you have good or lighthearted intentions about it and just mean for it to be in the spirit of "good fun" is just not worth the negativity that the other person or people may feel as a result of the attempted humor. Humor ideally shouldn't have that effect, but I get that many of us feel like it can or should because of what we're exposed to from society. In reality, when we use humor like that, it's often a result of us feeling jaded in some way. I've learned to put a lot more stock in the idea of "if you have nothing nice to say, then just keep it to yourself" when it comes to humor, because at the end of the day I want to use humor to make people laugh and not make people potentially upset.

I stopped identifying as a metal head about a decade ago. I prefer to say I'm a music lover. I still love metal but I found with the assholes online that the bands I liked were never cool/heavy enough and if I did like the same band the songs I liked weren't the right ones. Life has only gone up hill since revoking metal head status

This right here says it all. Sometimes metalheads can be very cool people and other times they can be the most toxic people out there. That goes for pretty much every form of art. Since I loved metal as a teen, I've always had those moments where I felt I was better or cooler than somebody else just because I listened to metal. When I was still in high school, it felt like most kids only listened to either mainstream hip hop or pop and that bothered me quite a bit. There were a few kids here and there that did listen to music I was into, but those people were very few and far between hence why I barely had any friends. I had a couple of classes that allowed us to play music on a speaker towards the end of the day. So whenever I had the chance, I would put on a band that no one else in the class heard of hoping that somebody would want to check them out. This, of course, never really happened. To be fair, I was never super elitist about metal and knew to appreciate other genres of music, but I would definitely have those moments where I wanted other kids to "expand their musical horizons" when in reality, they just have a preference for a certain genre. Nowadays, it still baffles me that so many metalheads will bitch and whine about anything that isn't metal. It's probably why there's still quite a few people in other music genres that choose to avoid metal because of how toxic the community can get. For example, there's this one user (who I will not name) that hides in the comments of Nik Nocturnal's videos constantly replying to anybody who talks about metalcore about how "not metal" the subgenre is. They claim that music isn't subjective and will consistently bash any new metal song that Nik reacts to, since this person is convinced that metal died in 1993. They also go on about how Nik was never into metal at all just because he mainly talks about metalcore and will always name off a bunch of thrash or death metal bands that no one has ever heard to "prove how smart they are" about the genre as a whole. Does this guy sound like a troll? Yeah probably, but it's just amazing how someone like that user will waste their entire day trying to prove how much of a "real metalhead" they are instead of... I don't know. Creating their own music for people to listen to since they "know SO much about metal?" TL;DR: At the end of the day, listen to whatever type of metal you like and don't go harassing others about how dumb they are for not listening to the same music as you do. Sorry if this got too wordy.

I went to a Shadow of Intent show here in San Diego a few months ago. Dope show. Dope lineup. Everyone I mingled with and spoke to seemed pretty cool and everyone was just enjoying their time there. A couple of hours into the night by the bar, me and my buddy were talking about the new Lorna Shore album and how much we appreciated it and how far they’ve come since their humble beginnings. All of a sudden, this one guy turns to us and just kinda scoffed at us and goes on to explain how Bone Kingdom is Lorna Shore’s greatest work and almost like being proud of the fact that he discovered that album back in the deathcore MySpace age as if he’s the only one who knows about it or has listened to it and that everyone praising Lorna Shore nowadays is just late to the party and he labeled them as “dick riders” and I couldn’t help but laugh because it’s just that pathetic that this grown man had the audacity to just cut in and act as this self-righteous “I’m a bigger fan because I looked up this obscure album by a band before they were popular” kind of attitude. Basically a metal hipster lol that to me is the most unattractive trait a person can have and not just in music, but in life. It’s ridiculous. It’s like the person that studies Poli-Sci and has this newfound knowledge on politics and wants to discuss it at every outing to try and prove how smart they are at something.

I still majority listen to brutal death, but compared to when i was in high where i used to "hate" anything that wasn't metal, these days I appreciate and even listen to vastly different music. The problem is when people don't grow out of the mindset I had when I was 16

Finn, you are a beautiful man. Have my babies. I don't want them anymore.

I really appreciate this video Finn, especially the comments about always being right. It’s a bad habit I have and I know it annoys people around me but I just have to work on breaking it and keeping my mouth shut when the comments aren’t necessary. Nobody likes a know-it-all!

I'm conflicted on where I draw the line between wanting to share interests with someone and not needing to listen to the same music as someone. Friends obviously don't need to have the same music tastes like you said but I still can't get past wanting to share some music tastes with a significant other. Naturally the majority of people aren't going to be listening to Insect Warfare or Sanguisugabogg, but music means a lot to me and it's hard to just not have that immense passion in common with someone, particularly when I don't have much else. Probably a question for a therapist, not the youtube comments section. Regardless, great video! Forcing cute skater girls to listen to Discordance Axis confirms you're a true metal fan

Okay but you can still make friends with people bc of music taste and there's nothing wrong with that. I think you can have different friends in different categories. Some friends to talk about movies some talk about music some talk about boring adult life. It's okay to nerd out sometimes with other nerds.

I'm a metal fan. I'm also a hip-hop, underground rap, folk, blues, grunge, dream pop, alt rock indie, nu-soul, lo-fi, shoegaze, witch house, neoretro, trip hop, dark country, slowcore, punkfolk & classical music fan. So, technically: I'm a poser. lol I'm also an experimental metal musician. At the same time, what is more authentic to the premisses of music genres & cultures like metal and punk than doing our own stuff no matter what people might think. What a paradox sometimes to face a scene that can embrace the abondant creativity of those type of music genres but decided to stick to strict rules and gatekeep every attempts of expanding on variations and fusions. Well, I'll do it anyway cuz I love it. I won't do it for pleasing a niche but for stretching musical borders and have fun.

It’s true. I got into heavy music later in high school but never considered myself a “metal head”. I loved hip hop, raggaeton, pop, EDM, nu-metal, pop-punk. The more I started into metal and metalcore the more the fans and people in the scene really turned me off. They try to be smarter than you. I swore I would never be that person. I like all genres. I feel bad for people who stick with just 1 genre whether its metal, hip hop or pop. But to each their own I guess.

Sound advice, man. I had a similar light bulb turning on experience early on in college that I’ll never forget. My social skills going into college were probably about a 0. I’m at work, and I’m dissing something or somebody…can’t even remember what it was because that was all I did back then. And my coworker, laughing, commented that I “don’t talk unless I have something to criticize”. And while my criticisms were objectively hilarious, that comment hit hard, because I was like “do I really want this to be my whole identity”? Today, I’d rate my social skills as a solid 3.5/10 & I actually have a career in managing people. I only like gateway metal though, so that’s probably as important to this as anything.

This is actually super based....I've literally considered not aligning myself with metal anymore because of these facts!

This is such a refreshing take. Framing life through any rigid lens like that will only limit your opportunities for happiness

The ironic part is that if you really wanted to turn somebody on to liking a certain band or genre it is much more likely to work if you’re not a complete dbag about it. It’s ok to be you around others but when someone says they aren’t into it just shrug and say ok. Pushing Your interests on others is how you ensure that person hates that thing forever. Also I can’t imagine only having friends that like the exact same things as me across the board. I used to be that guy and never realized I was that guy. So much time and energy wasted.

When I started going out with my now wife the only things that she listened to was the top 40s and Disney soundtracks. I didn't have anything against those types of music and never forced my musical taste on her. Well, eventually I was recording vocals for my metal band and she was in the other room and came in really curious to see what was going on. Long story short, I showed her that it could be fun to just kind of mess around and record stupid sounds and that eventually let her to try to record vocals on her own. The biggest thing for her to get over was the fact that it was embarrassing to her. But, once she got over that she said, " that was so much fun!" And fast forward to now and she's the co vocalist to this band (TIMŌRĀTUS) and lead vocalist in our new sludge band (Azell). The lesson learned from all of this is the fact that if you can frame something is being fun and enjoyable and also have somebody who is genuinely curious about what makes you you, then you have a much much better chance to get them to enjoy and or listen to what you enjoy.

It's okay to just let people be wrong about things that don't matter sometimes, let alone have an opinion that sucks. My brother is the type of person that can just never let something go if you say something he disagrees with or thinks is wrong in his presence, and it's exhausting to be around. It's like, not everything I say is meant to be a conversion challenge. My mom was also like that and they vehemently disagreed with each other on almost everything. Holidays with both of them were a lot of fun when she was still alive.

This is why I love these live stream videos. They can be both hilarious and serious. I'm not exaggerating when I say this is my favorite content on youtube. You're awesome, Finn! :)

The close mindedness you see with metal fans is weird because whenever you see interviews with their favorite artists talking about music outside of the scene, it’s usually all of the stuff metal nerds hate. Musicians usually have incredibly diverse tastes because they’re constantly searching for ideas to pull from and they tend to view things more objectively without any genre criteria.

I’m a life long metal fan and love all genres of metal but I also love a ton of other music from country to pop and beyond. Nothing makes me happier than finding new music across any genre. I always say metal is my home but I love “going on vacation” so to speak. For instance I liked a few Punk bands like the Ramones and DK for a long time but recently I’ve been doing a deep dive into punk and hardcore and I am loving it. Good music is good music. Let people enjoy things even if you don’t enjoy it today. Maybe tomorrow you will. My record collection has Slayer and Cannibal Corpse but it also has Duran Duran and the B52s and beyond. I don’t really care if people call me a poser for it I don’t need their validation.

My 16 year old son said he thought my music taste was cool because I listen to everything. I will live on that compliment for the rest of my days.

I've been saying this to my daughter for years. She's 11 years old and is not a metal gatekeeper but she is oftentimes a know-it-all. Where the subject matter is different I'm going to show her this video with the cursing and all because I believe you relayed the message perfectly.

I still struggle with being a know it all about a lot of things. I nerd out for the things I enjoy, I study things thoroughly, and I enjoyed all the compliments people gave me over my intelligence. I pissed off friends, family, other people. I always have valued being correct and having the right information. I thought I was being helpful, but a lot of times, I was embarrasing people.

Thinking all metalheads only listen to metal just BECAUSE they dress like metalheads must be the most stupidest shit I've ever heard and I've seen a lot in these comments. Of course you don't have to dress like a metalhead to be a metalhead, it was never a rule. The reason why people started dressing like this was because their inspirations dressed like that and they wanted to replicate it. If you listen to more genres you're not special, no need to say that in the comments, we all do. It's a preference; if their genre of music falls more into metal, it doesn't mean they cannot like jazz or goth music, some people might get extreme with it but it happened with every other genre aswell being trap, pop or any type of music in general. If a person did a stupid thing back then that was included in a group of people dosent mean all people between that group are stupid like the person were, that's a stupid stereotype and generalization. And this comment counts to every single stupid comment that I've seen between this section, it becomes a copypaste of the same shit without adding on to anything.

I feel what you’re saying applies to many music nerds who like any niche genre outside of the pop music mainstream in general. I know this as a recovering pedantic music nerd. Like your former employer, I’m very grateful for the friends I’ve had who talked with me and helped me become a better person.

This is BASED. Thank you so so much Finn for pointing this out!! Like with anything, obsession over metal is downright unhealthy. I have definitely used it as a crutch to ignore bigger issues with my relationships and my lust. I'm still struggling with that balance tbh, but that's where good friends (outside the scene) come in. I thank God everyday that there are guys and gals who love me whatever my current fascination is. Stay centered, fellas.

This is so important to hear, and is relevant beyond metal. Even though I didn’t grow up being a metalhead, I had the same limited view on who was cool and what people should like, it made me a bit of an asshole and closed me off for friendships with good people.

Metal fans are the most loyal music fans than any genre out there!!!

My own unique musical interests has opened me up to accepting that not everyone needs to like what I like. While I listen to Black and Industrial Metal, I also love 1920s-1930s Jazz, Bluegrass, Blues, Opera/Classical, Disco, and 90s Hip Hop, more importantly I’ve learned that I don’t need to feel embarrassed for not ‘strictly’ being a Metal Head.

I love metal and I grew up on country. I don't listen to it as much as I did then, but throw on some Brooks & Dunn or Alan Jackson and I'll sing along. My best friends love Electronica, dance and folk music and we've been like brothers for almost 15 years now. A lot of my metal friends who I hang out with at shows also have diverse music tastes as well. Metal fans just gotta realize that just because you're part of niche community doesn't mean it has to be your ONLY community.

Finn's videos inspire me to be a better person. I can relate to this video so hard. No idea how many times I've cock blocked myself by playing Dream Theater for a new girl. (BTW guys, if you're gonna play obscure music, have Porcupine Tree playing in the background when she comes over, if she likes the PT then you're in).

Absolutely spot on. A bit of tact and diplomacy will take you a long way. As ever Finn, your eloquent words are sound advice. I’m certainly not a know it all and wouldn’t know the luxury of correcting someone if it smacked me in the face! Top work!

I agree that no one, including me, likes a know it all, but that won't stop me from correcting people who respond "Oh, I listen to rock" when I ask them their favorite genre of music.

A few things I want to bring up to add to the conversation. 1) The whole point of being a nerd of anything is that you're there to learn as much as you can about a subject. You immerse yourself in a fandom or subculture because reading books about the topic you're nerding out about isn't enough because someone within the fandom might know something the official publications don't. This is especially true for metal where a lot of the experiences are outside of official releases and publications. 2) The discourse that occurs within the fandom I've noticed has taught people how to be great bs detectors because facts are always getting cross referenced between people so often that someone bsing stand out like a sore thumb, and in seeing that bsing person they can start associating common behaviors they see in these bsers outside of the subculture. 3) Idk why exactly but personally I see loyalty to bands and subgenres not as limiting but endearing as it's rare to see unconditional love for anything anymore that isn't pet or politics related. Yeah yeah I know the merits of judging music should only be if they sound good to the listener. But still there is this need in human nature that wants to be loyal to something and here you are saying no that's bad for you. 4) And outside of maybe 5 or 6 people all the metal fans I know love other genres of music and will respect someone else's differing opinions on music.

Bro my mom says that too. You were raised right that’s why I watch your channel. A lot of punk rock people ironically were raised right. I remember being in my late teens and early 20s around 2010 and there was nothing more uncool than being a metal guy who wore camo shorts with poor social skills. And it’s true that metal elitism is a very sure fire way to limit your dating pool

Just to get one thing straight: you're a metal fan yourself! You just make fun of the toxic, self-proclaimed elitists and smartasses who definitely don't represent the average Metal fan! I didn't understand that at first, so as a metal fan I felt attacked at first. Until I realized that I, who simply love this music, wasn't meant at all! Lots of love from Germany, even though I know that you deeply despise Europeans! Typical American... Only Americans judge people based on where they come from ;)

Back in high school I used to be metal only, NOTHING else. Then a few years m my later I opened my mind to several different genres. Can’t imagine being like that now days.

Really appreciate you being honest about this. I’ve been listening to metal since 2001 or so, but over the years I’ve slowly stopped talking about metal to others, because there’s almost no value in it. I vividly remember the last time I did; it was circa 2014 and it was with a new guy at work. We were standing by the copier just naming metal bands and just silently judging each other for listening to this band or that band, and I walked away feeling really awful. After that I vowed to never discuss metal with anyone ever again.

My biggest issue is that I’m a metal head I also love some pop music and some rap as well. And yeah sometimes I want hard-core riffs or I want like a 15 minute complicated Prog metal song to jam to. Sometimes I just want to listen to Coldplay and Pet shop boys or the weekend 😂 and just chill. And it’s OK if people don’t like certain artists but it’s like metalheads gets so mad that you can like other artist that are metal or aren’t making 20 minute complicated songs with 35 key changes. It’s like they think metal is the be-all end-all in that you can’t like other things or “why would you listen to that pop crap bro you are a poser” 😂

I am so glad I grew up majority post-internet. I was born in 2000. Just graduated college with a bachelors, so as far as a track in life that you're "supposed to do," I am fairly fulfilled. Given how it B-lined it to the end goal of college, I really did miss out on a ton of the fun my peers were subject to. I always thought I would be shit at music because I never took x, y or z class. Picked up a guitar in December of 2021 and I am already doing bar gigs with friends. Given my freshness into the scene, I had no idea about this metal culture. I love Pantera, Megadeth, Slayer, etc but absolutely cannot understand the more niche genres. It is not my taste, but I cannot tell you how many fellow guitar players shit on my "normie" pallet and I've only been around for a year. "Oh symphony of destruction, that's the first thrash song anybody learns!" Thats been said to me at least 5 times because its a regular at my shows. People at bars love it. All music is good music unless its meant to be a money model over music.

Weirdly enough I was a music elitist UNTIL I discovered metal, after that I opened myself up to other genres like pop too

The vast majority of the time correcting someone isn't necessary, unless it's mission critical. And if it is, then I feel it's important to be mindful of any potential authority/power dynamic and to present said correction in a respectful or non-threatening manner because no one likes being wrong, but even moreso no one likes to be made to feel lesser for being wrong.

Finn was on a roll when he was making fun of modern metalcore and the “djenting in a colored room” type callouts….now he doesn’t dare say anything…kind of a bummer. FINN please…modern metalcore needs to be humbled!!

The advice your boss gave you was epically priceless. Thanks for sharing

"Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?" You know what I say to that? Irrelevant, because nobody who ever asks me that is either right OR happy.

Huh I didn't expect to gain something from this because I'm not a stereotypical "metal fanboy" but yeah that whole section on being the brutal over correcting of others person is definitely something I see more of myself in than I like to admit. I've known for a long time its a problem and have been slowly getting better and better at it. I think (for me at least) the pressures of life, self improvement and high expectations for yourself is a really easy thing to project onto other people and become disappointed in them when they don't meet those unrealistic and off base expectations. Thank you I didn't realize I needed that moment of clarity.

this is what men these days need to hear instead of andrew tate nonsense

Dude you literally explained everyone on the internet...

I was this person. Correcting people and being a smartass and i actually believed i was better. The minute i changed my behaviour everything just changed. Career, family, everything started getting better. The only problem is this it took me 20 years to figure out.

This happened to me in middle school \ highschool, not with metal...I never cared to gatekeep music or anything but I had a bad habit of needing to be right and let people know. Glad I had a couple friends shame me out of it before I left grade school.

The truth is that when you choose sport jersey hardcore as your adult life path it turns you from some sort of outcast to a bully. Be careful what you listen to. Music controls your mind subconsciously. Look into ear worms. Music will make you angry and depressed and it gets worse when you subscribe to a specific genre that is destructive.

As a 16 year Metal Head fan I use to be an absolute gate keeper "god forbid" I even listened to anything mainstream thats not Metal it really held me back in alot of opportunities as a Musician I almost quit music as whole because of it. On the plus side Metal does perfect you're skills but it can blur you're vision as well.

I have the same experience but with the punk scene. I grew up listening to punk & alternative music in the 2000s, but the community was so elitist about their genre being the only "good", non-commercial art (even though many of them can barely play instruments) and made fun of metal all the time. And being a teen, I mimicked that behavior. I eventually migrated more to the metal scene because I thought many of the fans are more chill, campy, and self-parodying and I appreciate the skills required to play the music. I guess being older I also don't pay attention to the elitists that take it too seriously, because they definitely exist too in metal. But I'm now reluctant to identify with any particular scene too much because I want to enjoy any music I happen to like in peace.

Punk Rock tried to kill The Metal. And it failed.

I've genuinely been thinking about how people revolve their entire personalities around the type of music they listen to. As well as them bashing anything that's not what they consider good music. Your video here is a fantastic summary.

As a metal fan, I do agree the fans kinda deserve some rib poking. Any metal fan that can't take a joke is so not metal. Also, I remember seeing Bad Brains and H20 in Hollywood, and the singer of H20 mentioned something about Arianna Grande or idk, some pop singer I don't listen to. And the crowd started booing. And the guy was like "you think you're so cool and a tough guy cause you only listen to one type of music?" Then he started talking about his young daughter and how it's her favorite music and he went to a show with his daughter and how it was an amazing show and asked why the guy in the crowd talking crap didn't have a daughter and said, "well, I think the answer to that question is an obvious one." Then went into another song. I thought he was setting up that Madonna song they cover, but no, they didn't play that all night

Eyyy, thanks for this Finn. I'm a bit older now, but in my younger days I always thought I was helping by being a know-it-all, by making sure that there was more truth being said than otherwise. And for a majority of things...it doesn't matter. You don't need to be the right one. Who cares? You can let some people be wrong. Unless it will actually impact something meaningfully, in a way that could hurt someone in real life, just keep doing the best job you can. Sometimes that younger version of me inside bubbles up once in a while and even I have to remind myself of this here and there.

finn's sense of humor is like coffee, at first you don't really like it, and it seems really bitter. But after a short period of time you become dependent on it.

But somehow you put alot of people down in this 17 minutes video...

Rock n roll is supposed to be fun and I hate it when people think they're being an intellectual on a trivial subject

Man, I was so bad for the Metal evangelising as a teenager. It took years for me to learn that showing someone the music you're into is like showing someone your skin problems - you should probably wait for them to ask you about it. Alternatively, make a KZfaq channel to scratch your oversharing itch and let them come to you.

Dude that's literally every fandom of any music, say something bad about Taylor Swift see how fast you regret it lol

"this is clearly not black metal, its obviously brutal blackened death metal" 🤓🤓

This is everywhere you go with every group of people, whether it's at a party, with family/friends, at work, on social media, etc. Today in 2023 just about everyone is an opinionated know it all, 15 years ago it was bad and it got worse and I'm sure 30 years ago it was also bad and 30 years before that. It's not just in metal, we just think that because a lot of us spend a lot of time in the metal community.

I hated dating metal heads. They would love Slayer and other thrash bands. They found out I liked a lot of hair metal. They would say "you're not a true metal fan, you suck" I also found being friends with metal heads was awful. At the lunch table would be daily arguments. Way back in the 1990s you had to pick ONE GENRE OR STYLE OF MUSIC. I started listening to gangster rap. ( Dr Dre and Snoop dog.) I also was into bands like Pearl Jam and Nirvana. Alterative fans were brutal gate keeps also. (And racist, hated rap as much as metal heads.) My Senior year I didn't give a crap about what people thought. I would listen anyting I wanted. Whether it was country, rap, disco, or metal. Then came the invention of Spotify, I get to explore different types of music genres. Dubstep, Drum and Bass and Hardstyle.

Dude, you're over 40. C'mon...

If this video proves anything, it's that Finn is gonna be a damn good dad.

The guy with spikes is called Metal Matt he used to drink at my local on the East Coast of England. Now he looks like homer simpson and works in computer shop. He used to have a spikey cod peice as well and a viking helmet.

rock/metal/band music is something you grow out of when you get truly truthpilled of the world around you, i couldn't care about metallica fans or ex-fans debate what album they claim said they stopped being a fan of the band when they are everything they throw at the band

That hat is something worth making fun of....

It's always cool when you do the real talk/life advice stuff. I learned the hard way not to be this person in my mid to late 20's. I've been much happier ever since.

Being a pretty die hard metal fan. I can see a lot of this behavior in my past self. Not so much the know-it-all part. I've always considered myself pretty dumb, in just about every way lmao. But the part about always talking about it, and always promoting it, kinda got me. I kind of want to express why (at least maybe) some people do it, because it's definitely the reason I did it. Growing up, I didn't really have any friends, I was laughed at a lot, and so I kinda closed off, I discovered Linkin Park around that time, so I kinda had that Safe Place that commenter had talked about. The problem was, because I was so closed off, making friends became even harder than it already was. Well when my family moved out to another part of the state, I had began wearing LP t-shirts and stuff. And that was how I made my first real friend. The LP shirt lead to talking about music, which in turn lead to us being really good friends. And it kind of just became that. I would meet people (in his specific click of friends) and talk about music and then I would have MORE friends. The problem then became, associating friends with music. Especially similar taste in music. So, to me, talking to random ass people about music became the way I tried to make friends, even when my taste had shifted from LP, to Cannibal Corpse. But I was 100% oblivious to their disinterest because of that association of music = friends. Not that it's a cop-out to that super obnoxious behavior, because I know that I was SUPER annoying when I did it, but perhaps some of those people just don't know how to make bonds without that initial starter. Or maybe, I was really weird, and this was just an experience only I had.

This past year was so fucking rough for my family, and because of all the shit we've dealt with I just haven't had the energy to argue over stupid shit or correct every incorrect thing I hear. It's freeing, and it's actually helped me cope/deal with the stress of pain I've dealt with over the past year. It's really eye opening.