The only thing I dislike about webflow, is that its pricing! They charge a lot.

Having 0 experience in coding/web building and only needing a portfolio, I'm definitely going with Framer.

As an owner of a digital agency , Webflow is the only way to go for me for now...Don't get me wrong , Flow still has it's own limitations vs Code Edit on CMS....I switched from WP building with Elementor page builder on Ocean WP...It gave me headaches upon headaches plus the bloat of having dragged down by elementor nclding other plugs ...Having said all of that, if it wasn't for my business, I always recommend Framer to those building for selves, friends, and family...Or even beginners of starting out small ... Great UI.... If Framer was to refine and get to a level of including exporting code , less bloated, improve on dynamics and logic, and just basically needs to be more seamless and robust

Webflow is about to add react. Case closed. I have never had a problem with the Webflow UI - as someone coming from adobe, it felt like a natural crossover, and furthermore as someone who has never learned coding - webflow has taught me the logic and heirarchy of coding, enabling me to work with developers much better than if I didn’t understand these things. Yes webflow has a little bit of a learning curve, but they also temper this by providing some of the best tutorials out there, all at nice bite size length. If you are starting out building websites, absolutely learn webflow. It will serve you much better in the long run. You will be stronger as a designer that understands code logic and can hand off clean code to developers, rather than as a designer who is reliant on a platform that tailors to you but ultimately holds you back. You will just be a designer vs a designer who is also able to be an almost complete front-end developer.

I'd like to hear more more of what Framers limitation/ceiling is

Excellent observations. I'm on the verge of jumping into Framer but feel I've invested so much time in webflow I feel a sense of dread of learning something new

With you shifting into using framer primarily, when you publish the website would you publish/host the website with framer or externally?

I've gotta say, I tend not to buy into these kinds of comparisons. You see, when the curtains close, it's those nifty soft skills and creative logical prowess that truly steal the show, not the hard skills reliant on specific tools. Let's zoom in on honing our core competencies rather than getting tangled up in the gadgetry of "which tool to use." I get it, these folks are churning out videos faster than popcorn at a movie premiere, but we've got to remember - they've probably got a shiny new course they're eager to sell. End of the day, it's more about the cash register ringing than genuinely educating the community. So let's keep it real, and focus on the skills that truly matter.

Totally my WebFlow first impression also man. Super impressive your design history so def giving your advice a third listen as want to look outside of being a Wordpress ninja. Dynamic engaging unique styling def a must.

would like to move to webflow or framer from wordpress - is one more seo friendly than the other? pretty much focus on local service-based businesses and ma/pa shops,,,

the best video for those like me who were going crazy trying to decide hahaha I'm a UX/UI designer and I've been lookin for the right page builder for my portfolio, something that would help me save time when I have to update my work. I'm also an elementor user so I didn't wanted to go through the all process that we already know when we are transfering designs from figma to a page builder like elementor or even webflow. As a very busy professional, I need something easy for myself to stop NOT UPDATING my own portfolio, its a mess hahahahahaha thank you so much Matt!

what is the flow to getting a fully functioning website up? After you've created one on framer are there only a few steps for it to go live?

Thanks for this! I'm totally with you in the sense that Webflow doesn't seem like a completely "no code" tool. I honestly hope that soon Figma will morph into a tool we can design on while code is being built in the back.

"and the worst thing that can happen is that you realize that it's ok... and it could be so much better" - i can totally relate to this

I agree, things are getting interesting 💻

But framer is very limiting, I once transferred Figma designs to framer using its plugin. Then I struggle a lot to get the carausal to scroll. I finally ended up using the carausal element provided by framer. And was not able to change the position of carausal indicators (dots). That is very limiting. Almost as much as using a template. Plus it's very hard to find help on Google because there are like 3-4 products called framer and Framer X...

Thanks for posting

Reading many of the comments I don't think people know that Framer can easily be extended by writing custom React components. Framer has a built-in add-component functionality and you can use the Framer Motion library natively. No tool is perfect, I would like to see an easier way to tap your Framer CMS. This should be a capability that should have been there from day one.

Just using Framer for a few days as an UI/UX designer and it's amazing! How could I redeem your discount coupon?

thanks! design 1st here. anything to speed things up is great!

Yeah framer is very familiar to Figma which is super easy. Probably won’t build anything more than a marketing or portfolio site tho

what are the features that webflow delivery that framer doesn't?

I’m obsessed with framer. Especially coming from Wordpress. Most coding platform imo

Thanks! I am intriqued to try it! How do I get the discount code?

Hey Matt (or anyone else who might know), it seems like client handoff is still an issue with Framer. How do you ship your Framer websites? Using the remix method seems a bit clunky and tricky (or expensive) for the client. Especially if the designer wants regular access for website maintenance. Would love to see @FluxAcademy do a video on this!

What about SEO for framer sites? Any insights about how effective framer websites are?

hm didn’t find the link for framer promocode but thank you for the video!

Thanks for sharing. Insightful video. Also please I can't see the promo code

if there are webflow developers here are the animation /motion design similar to what you can do in framer? I want to take a motion design course that is taught in webflow and i want to also apply it when Im using framer.

Does thie mean that evry customer of your should have Framer account subscription?

The affiliate link doesn't work cos it needs https before it. Great video

Do you recommend any Framer courses ?

Interesting!

framer partner talking about pros and cons :)

What have happened? Webflow stopped paying for promotion?

for a Brochure site maybe framer

another thing to learn eh. There are so many no code apps these days everyone is copying each other. With these tools anyone can create sites. this + AI, designers can be spared in no time

I appritiate the video and the reasons but I would like a comparations of someone who knows both.

I feel the same about Webflow. I want to like it but just can't work with it.

well...been with wf for 6 years. Made 200+ sites :D Tried framer to see it's capabilities. If you know what are Framer limitations are, and you design in Figma using these limitations - than Framer is good. But, for professional sites with a bunch of CMS collections, full code control, custom code to extend functionalities, site speed, and scalability - Webflow is the winner. I think every web designer should know a bit of dev too because this closes the gap between the design and dev. Wish Framer could take over wf, but that's not gonna happen. Imagine when wf will release it's AI. How many sites with good practices in web dev were made with wf. It will just sunset everyone.

I looked into framer. But compared to webflow, Framer did not suit my needs. I can't remember specifically what it was, but there was one thing that was a deal killer for me. Note: I think it's their pricing scheme. Hosting is more expensive and far more limited than webflow. Even though webflow is not scaleable (having a 1:1 cost ratio) as a guy who also makes residual money on hosting, I have to keep my costs as low as possible.

Def love framer more than webflow. Coming from a graphic designer with Wordpress background.

Exactly a replica of my experience! Webflow's UI was the first thing that put me off, I needed something good-looking like Figma. Framer is the tool I was looking for.🤗

The best thing a designer can do is learn how to code.

Outstanding review. Very well aligned with my observations too. I am not a developer, so Framer works better for me as it combines Design with No code, while providing flexibility for developers familiar in React to use code overrides to extend the functionality

i tried framer and i can see why people love it. That said, i think the Webflow is a upgrade to framer. Framer is amazing for 90% of things, webflow do 8% more and the last 2% is custom code for sure. Webflow is harder but is so capable that is almost a crime to actually do html/css/js from scratch right now. I think the framer interface is easier until you want complete freedom to move around, that will get you pissed fast. To me this is more a case-by-case scenario. Complex website to build ? Webflow or/and Dev. Simple site to build? Framer or webflow.

If you are proficient in HTML and CSS Webflow is super easy.

searched for some webflow tutorials so I found you and then I saw this video, looked at framer and instantly fell in love with it. I mean I also love webflow because I don't think it is that hard but I already feel like that I am able to do more stuff (for free) and also are able to build a site even faster. So currently I would say framer over webflow but I still love webflow ^^

The problem with Framer is that you can not put it on your own hosting.

RIP Adobe Muse.

I went ahead and checked Framer's website. What a disaster of a DOM... It doesn't speak very well for the product, does it?

Ive Tourette's so webflow makes me crazy

Framer's broken, bro. You can't compare a solid tool like Webflow with a fancy one that only makes aesthetically pleasing sites. When it comes to creating websites for serious brands and businesses, there's no comparison. Framer is for dreamers and creatives who want to create something cool. Webflow is a tool for creating high-performance sites.

Framer is great, but they own your code... That's a huge risk for any business.

Lol, so you did not try webflow and you are comparing Webflow with Framer ? What a Bulll**** How can you compare if you did not try both for some time ? BULLLLLL******

if you never built a website these days UX/UI. designers do not know code so framer is great but for old-school web designers web flow. rocks.. web flow has more plug-ins and usages working with. Figma...web flow is much more robust just be patience your income will grow