Why I Quit Teaching High School After 5 Hard Years FINALLY EXPLAINED!

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Joyful Through It All

Joyful Through It All

2 жыл бұрын

If you are considering leaving teaching, you need to watch this video! In this video, I will finally explain why I quit teaching high school after 5 years. I quit teaching after a rocky start to the profession and five years of struggling with teacher burn out, perfectionism, and anxiety.
My hope is by sharing why I quit teaching high school, and my gratitude for the struggles I went through, that you will find strength if you are considering quitting teaching.
Teacher burn out is a common experience and one of the main reasons why teachers quit the profession. Don't get stuck in a cycle. There are plenty of other jobs for teachers that are better suited to your strengths! Use my story to take action and make a change today!
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@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Have you left teaching? Wondering where to go next? Check out this video to hear how I used my teaching experience to land my dream job after quitting teaching! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMhhaKSp0ZipeXk.html
@anissaholmes4495
@anissaholmes4495 2 жыл бұрын
I love teaching but I don’t like what it has become. It has really changed. The standards seem so low for parents and students. The standards are so impossibly high for teachers. I have the same personality traits.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very insightful comment! I feel the same way. I was in love with sharing my passion and watching it inspire young minds. However, the low standards that are set for students and the pressure to 'produce' high results is immense. Teaching a growth mindset really helped with this. My classes understood that it was about growing through struggle rather than just getting a good mark for no reason. Their parents, however, did not always share this view!
@ebert8756
@ebert8756 2 жыл бұрын
I am always thinking about standards , including basic standards for behavior and civility
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@ebert8756 this ^
@PlanetNumeracy
@PlanetNumeracy 2 жыл бұрын
Too many people think that if you can't learn math instantly without effort, it's due to a bad teacher... :(
@raleemay
@raleemay 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Low standards for students. And they have such low standards for themselves. Yet everything they do reflects back on you.
@xnihilo64
@xnihilo64 2 жыл бұрын
I'm finally retiring after 25 years. I've witnessed the decline of public schools during that time. When I hear young adults considering the profession, I tell them to look elsewhere. Sad.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Congrats on the retirement! I’m sure you’ve seen your share of change throughout.
@raleemay
@raleemay 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your retirement. How exciting
@kayabe856
@kayabe856 Жыл бұрын
I give the same advice for nursing 😂😂😂 DONT DO IT!!!!
@xnihilo1044
@xnihilo1044 Жыл бұрын
@@kayabe856 really? I’m shocked. I actually tell kids thinking about teaching to consider nursing 🤪
@wheatstonebridge
@wheatstonebridge 4 ай бұрын
Do you see a massive difference since you started?
@lindsayjones1359
@lindsayjones1359 2 жыл бұрын
Parents expect teachers to bring their kids up today . Kids don't keep quiet and pay attention in classrooms.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is especially true in boarding schools! I struggled less with classroom management, but the lack of accountability parents hold their kids to is definitely a major burnout factor for teachers.
@jillsalkin7389
@jillsalkin7389 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, YES!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@jillsalkin7389 Sending ALL of the positivity your way!
@Nan-59
@Nan-59 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine there's a teacher out there right now who isn't exhausted, fed up and really wish they didn't have to go into the classroom tomorrow morning. Beyond the craziness of the pandemic, kids (in the US, anyway) are horribly disrespectful. They cuss at teachers out every single day. As a 62 year old woman, I find it truly unacceptable.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It is a sad reality for the profession right now isn’t it. I do think the circumstances are going to motivate people to make a change at least. There are plenty of jobs for teachers out there!
@bobp1016
@bobp1016 2 жыл бұрын
I love my job as a teacher and I enjoy going to work. Yes, I hate the masks and the horrible curriculum, but I still enjoy my job.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is great to hear. It is always nice to see someone in a job they love and using their strengths to make a difference!
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 2 жыл бұрын
I am a 62 year old teacher and I am not exhausted. The kids don't curse me. They can be rude sometime but so can adults. I do my best and that is al I can do.
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 Жыл бұрын
I have taught for 29 years. I am not exhausted or fed up. I intend to keep working until they drag me out of here.
@goodtalker
@goodtalker 2 жыл бұрын
I "fell" into a middle school teaching job, quite by accident, when I was 24. I had just graduated from college, had a wife, a daughter, and another daughter on the way. I was grateful to be employed. Seven years later I quit not having any idea what I was going to do. A friend suggested a position in adult education at the local jail. I took that job and had a great career for over 20 years. What was the real difference? In the public school, I had virtually no professional discretion or control--over anything. In the adult education job, I had tons of control. It made all the difference in the world. Thanks for reading.
@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999
@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999 2 жыл бұрын
I "fell" into teaching also!!! I was working at a 6 figure job in a fortune 500 telecom company when I learned that my daughter was arrested for drugs. She had a 1 yr old at the time. I rushed to get the baby (now 20 lol) and got full custody. I needed to change jobs in order to take care of her. I couldn't keep flying all over the world on business. I figured that teaching would be "easy" and I'd be home in summer and holidays. It's 18 years later and I HATE my job. My hair is literally falling out from the stress. I am retiring in 18 days to take a job that I love where I can work at home. I enjoyed reading your story!!!! We never know where our passion might be needed!
@goodtalker
@goodtalker 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999 Hi Melody! Great story. I come from a well-to-do farming family, but always wanted to be a pilot in the military more than anything. After my first child was born, I turned down an aviation career contract in the Marines, and like you, thought teaching would be good job in terms of the responsibility I had with becoming a father. I was wrong. After 20 years in correctional education, I got out, and not a minute too soon. The same nonsense that governed public education was taking root in adult education. I retired from adult education at 56, sure felt "tired" all the time, and for about 5 years now have worked for a large plumbing retailer. I love it. My daughters are now 38 and 36. The moral of the story? Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, especially when there's a loved one involved. Have a nice day from Southern California.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story! I empathize with being grateful for work. In fact, I believe this is what kept me in my job (knowing how hard it was to land the position in the first place). Adult education truly is a completely different game. I imagine you also found a much deeper sense of meaning and purpose in your specific role. I also imagine that you touched many lives and inspired positive change in a powerful way. Thank you again for sharing. I wish you and your family much joy and happiness!
@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999
@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999 2 жыл бұрын
@@goodtalker Wonderful!!!! I love your story! Yup, family first! Thanks for sending some sunshime from SoCal!
@user-cz5lj2vx1f
@user-cz5lj2vx1f 4 ай бұрын
What a sad commentary on the state of PARENTOG that you had a better experience teaching in an adult JAIL than in a HIGH SCHOOL. It increasingly seems the "problem" with public schools is 2 fold: 1. CLUELESS or BAD PARENTS & 2. INCOMPETENT or ABUSIVE ADMINISTRATORS. The problem is NOT teachers!
@shaggyrumplenutz1610
@shaggyrumplenutz1610 2 жыл бұрын
I taught high school for ten years. I wish I could have that time back.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you were able to carry some of the skills you developed forward to something great!
@shaggyrumplenutz1610
@shaggyrumplenutz1610 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll I teach at the middle school I attended back in my hometown. It is a much better fit and I feel like I matter.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaggyrumplenutz1610 What a journey! That has to feel very 'full-circle'. My best wishes to you!
@rachaeleotto3049
@rachaeleotto3049 2 жыл бұрын
I found the part where you said you chose teaching because you viewed it as a respectable profession relatable. You were a good student and you respected your teachers. You probably found out like myself that teaching is not, in fact, a respected profession. Either the profession has changed so much since we were in school or our teachers were just really good at hiding the challenges. That's why I don't sugar-coat it when my students ask me about my job. It's not right to encourage the next generation into a toxic career.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good point. I held onto the belief that my job was respected right up until the end. If I accepted that it wasn't the job I thought it was a bit earlier, it probably would have made the decision easier. It's funny how your mind convinces you of things you know not to be true now!
@caseybent-callaghan6659
@caseybent-callaghan6659 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectionism is a tough one to get past in this job. It's a character (defect in my case) that brought me to my knees mentally and emotionally. I'm 35 years in and to be able to make it this long required switching up every now and then (I've taught elementary, middle school and high school math) and am currently an Instructional Coach. I can also say that had I not dealt with my perfectionism and was still letting it rule my life, there is no way I would be at year 35. Be gentle with yourselves, fellow teachers.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is great advice. I love your approach of switching things up. A fresh challenge is always good for the soul. Congrats on the 35 years!
@mawulekumitokponwey9086
@mawulekumitokponwey9086 2 жыл бұрын
I a recently retired teacher who spent 30 years in the trenches. I stayed through the torture for so long because I had a personal mission to help as many people as I could in my community. I taught history at the high school that I graduated from for 13 years. I loved many aspects of teaching, and I hated so many more. I am glad that you were able to find that life/ profession balance and are happy. I appreciated all that you shared.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It’s great to hear that your desire to help carried you forward for so long. This is how you know you were in it for the right reasons! Thanks for sharing!
@rowdybliss
@rowdybliss 2 жыл бұрын
I went to school to become a music teacher (class of ’98, so it’s been a while…), and I had such high hopes… but boy, once I got my first real teaching gig, I was SO disillusioned. No amount of student teaching prepared me for the bureaucratic idiocy of working in public schools and, from what I can tell, it’s only gotten worse. I loved teaching the kids-I was a great teacher!-but between the garbage pay and the utter lack of administrative support, I left and became a paralegal (pretty happy about that).
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear you have found work that you connect with. This is so so so important!
@MD-lc7hn
@MD-lc7hn 2 жыл бұрын
Italy here. Teachers used to have a decent contract even with a low wage. Now, together with a low pay, the workload and expectations have increased exponentially. Parents and their teens are rude, headmasters treat teachers in a very condescending way and blame them for their inability to manage . I will not get into details cause I think it’s also connected with historical and political process. What I think is that even if in Italy it’s a long term government job, And unlike the US there aren’t many opportunities, I will look for sth else and employ my skills. I cannot stand another idiot complaining ‘we have too many paid holidays’, unable to understand that if we hadn’t those paid extra days we would be all burned out.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy to hear that you are looking for different ways to use your skills! Best of luck!
@just_aline7317
@just_aline7317 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, same here in Germany. The parents lack appreciation and their children adapt their behaviour.
@just_aline7317
@just_aline7317 2 жыл бұрын
After 4 years I have just quit teaching at a high school, it was a privat high school and they didn't pay enough money, most of my colleagues were unprofessional and my bosses underappreciated all of us. Lots of our students had learning disabilities or behavioural issues yet they didn't receive the help they needed and deserved. I appreciated having a contract and steady income but I just continually felt drained and the virus just accelerated my decision to leave. Now I work as a freelance instructor teaching German to adult migrants and I feel a lot more appreciated and less drained. Teaching is fun again.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately what you’ve shared appears to be quite common. Thanks for sharing your story! I applaud your strength and courage and wish you the best in your new and exciting role!
@just_aline7317
@just_aline7317 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll thank you for your comments and your wishes, they are very appreciated 😊
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@just_aline7317 You got this!
@michaelwallace1189
@michaelwallace1189 Жыл бұрын
Public is worse by a factor of ten.
@CuteKnight98
@CuteKnight98 2 жыл бұрын
Gaslighting and all kinds of problems. :( Toxic work environment. My physical and mental health have been greatly impacted.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
No one should have to experience this in the workplace. My best wishes for a more positive experience moving forward!
@crowkraehenfrau2604
@crowkraehenfrau2604 2 жыл бұрын
Have been a teacher in Germany for 20 years now. I still love the profession...and teaching Math. But I started when my daughter was 9 years old. And Germany is a bit better for teachers than the US. Though things have been taking a turn for the worst. But being a perfectionist certainly doesn't work. It's more about surviving an absolutely crazy job... and not forgetting what I love about it.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This was very well said! I think toward the end I started understanding that it was about survival. I just wanted more than going in every day with a goal to just stay alive!
@MD-lc7hn
@MD-lc7hn 2 жыл бұрын
And in Germany contracts and welfare are amazing. Just think about us poor Italian teachers. We merely survive… it’s not the job it used to be.
@TheJollyReiver
@TheJollyReiver 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective fella. I’m in my first year of teaching and turning 25 next week. I feel that to be a successful teacher you have to make it your whole life. I used to have so many hobbies and side jobs that I loved and I used to have a wide social life. Now I barely have any time, I don’t see friends, girlfriend, I don’t do my hobbies anymore and I feel my life passing away quickly as I’m just living for the weekends/school holidays. I’m at a very good school with great staff and my class is very manageable, so it could be FAR worse. But it just isn’t for me, I want my life back. Also, with the hours I put in, the pay simply isn’t worth it! Yet, I feel frustrated because I’ve trained so hard to do it and I’m desperate to finish after 1 year.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers friend. The first few years are 100% the hardest. I remember prepping everything all the time on nights, weekends, the summer, you name it. Now, it could get better once you get into the profession a bit, but the reasons I shared in the video are what drove me out, even after I was established. It is a balancing game for sure. Do you have other ideas for what you would do? The training is definitely applicable to other areas!
@TheJollyReiver
@TheJollyReiver 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll I want to do my passion tbh. I’m going to try and grow my KZfaq channel while supporting myself with a job that doesn’t require much effort. I just realised that there’s nothing more important than my time and I feel I’m wasting my youth doing something I dislike. I’d rather get out now rather than wish I’d done it after 5/10 years, as many commenters here and elsewhere seem to. Thanks for your reply mate, been watching a few of your vids after finding this and enjoying them!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
For real. I can't agree more with what you have said here. I wish you courage and success my friend!
@AmoebaInk
@AmoebaInk 2 жыл бұрын
I'd keep in mind this is your first year and time management is part of the learning curve. (And I do know there's a lot of time demands on teachers.) If you choose to do something else, that's ok, but you may also want to take a breath at year end and do some review, consider if there are some steps you could take to minimize your workload. With either decision, give your admin feedback. I feel like loss of planning time is a major complaint for a lot of teachers. More planning periods would help with that work/life balance.
@AmoebaInk
@AmoebaInk 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJollyReiver Given that comment of wanting a less demanding job to follow a passion. I've done the same. If you still enjoy teaching, you may look into sub positions, after school programs, older daycare class (can be stressful but not so much grading), tutoring, or something education adjacent. Maybe even an online teaching position. I tend to work part time jobs, so I can have some steady income while building my business. But the money is not enough for most people... You have to find your own balance.
@JustMeAllDayEveryday
@JustMeAllDayEveryday 2 жыл бұрын
I too taught for 5 years ( & a few years later - I came back for one year: teaching part time: which I hadn't even known was possible! - it was GT for a tiny school- so not all classes can be made into part time- but they are out there) But after that- I discovered that IF you have a teaching degree - there are a lot of other jobs that are available for teachers! I worked for a publishing company- and traveled the state, talking to teachers and admin, doing textbook sales presentations, & then teaching workshops to schools that purchased said textbooks, and providing professional development to teachers- using those textbooks- I absolutely LOVED this job! I got to teach- but talk to adults & I met so many neat people- just thot I'd comment to let you in on another avenue that Teachers can move toward! Good Luck!! 😉
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story. I love to hear what other people are doing with their teaching experience in non-teacher jobs! I’m especially glad to hear that you love your work. This is so so important. Thanks again for the comment!
@raleemay
@raleemay 2 жыл бұрын
I could never be a teacher. I’ve worked in education off and on for 12 years but as a substitute teacher and educational assistant. I work at a high school now and it’s horrible. But at least when I clock out I don’t have to worry so much about prepping anything or grading anything, or emailing parents. It’s hard though dealing with the behaviors, and lazy students.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Everything you have described is definitely draining. If there was some way to leave that all behind, you'd be looking at a seriously rewarding profession! I still look back with gratitude for my time in the classroom, as it led me to where I am now :D
@beesbythesea8899
@beesbythesea8899 2 жыл бұрын
I taught for 20 years and was the opposite of perfectionism. Sometimes my best lessons were responding to something that didn't work or having to ad lib for whatever reason. I did not sweat the smalI stuff and was not afraid to apologise for a bad lesson. Not everything goes as planned. I saw brilliant students who struggled with perfectionism and I would tell the that perfectionism can be the enemy of good enough. After all it was just middle school.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
These are wise words that I would share with my younger self if I had the chance!
@michaelwallace1189
@michaelwallace1189 Жыл бұрын
Now we have to write extremely detailed lesson plans that take literally hours to complete. For who? Nobody in the actual class. Then there are constant observations nitpicking you for not doing it exactly the way you were told. God forbid you deviate from your lesson plan that went off the rails first period Monday morning because that's the way it works... Every year there is a different strategy they want to see. This year it's hunting not fishing. I wish I was doing either of those things. One year it was a duck a beaver and a goose. It's seriously that stupid. Job creep is unbelievable and so bad they now expect you to do more than twice what you can do in your contracted hours. The whole system is based on equity of outcomes, not equality of opportunity, which, if you ask me is absolutely essential to learning. Don't even get me started on teaching to the tests.
@jlynt680
@jlynt680 2 жыл бұрын
I rarely slept. I worked all day at school, came home to be a mom of two, and after they were in bed by 8pm, I would work on lessons until 1am. I would get up at 5 and start again. My health was negatively impacted.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is a familiar story for sure. I hope you found some balance that helps you prioritize your family!
@Nemotensho
@Nemotensho 2 жыл бұрын
The system is broken. Most students are taught just to go to college but they are not even set for college. K to college so many things that are wrong with the system that needs to change or education will just keep going downhill. I love to teach and am willing to help students anytime. I hate the outcome that I see with students being taught wrong things and being said wrong things before going to college. Sigh.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true isn’t it? And with the standards being so low in secondary school, it makes you wonder how colleges are coping. There is a responsibility of colleges to prepare students for the workforce, so how can we do that if we don’t raise the bar?
@ebert8756
@ebert8756 2 жыл бұрын
What you said about perfectionism really hit home. If you want to be forced to give up perfectionism, try teaching. You will either recognize the need to give up perfectionism, or go insane.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! Unfortunately I still haven’t given it up :( but, making the change I did allowed me to use my strengths in a different way and carve out some time to focus on those tendencies. We are all a work in progress aren’t we!
@ebert8756
@ebert8756 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll I want to rewrite my comment, because it sounds like i'm talking about "you" when I'm really talking about me... I don't mean to judge anyone's path, I meant to share what I've gone through but I didn't really write it right. I should say, teaching forced ME to give up perfectionism. There just came a day when there was no chance in the world that I had enough time and resources to make things live up to my idea of "perfect." I do think I'm a better person for it. I realized I could still help students learn in ways that did not adhere to my ideas of perfect and that was growth! (for me)
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@ebert8756 no worries at all! I understood what you meant! I wish you happiness friend!
@ebert8756
@ebert8756 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll ☺️happy holidays to you friend ☺️
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
You as well! What a beautiful time of year!
@byeteaching
@byeteaching 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic content! I appreciate how you've provided concrete examples of mistakes and offered practical solutions. Your advice will undoubtedly help teachers navigate the job market outside of education more effectively. Well done!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@chrisbarlow3949
@chrisbarlow3949 2 жыл бұрын
Getting laid off from the pandemic make me think twice about my career. I decided to go into education. I'm not a teacher, but some teachers I had were great. This added more reasons to go into the field. 3 months in and I love it. No other job I had was more rewarding.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy to hear you have found something you are passionate about! Causing people to reflect on their work and what is important is the one good thing that has come from this pandemic.
@chrisbarlow3949
@chrisbarlow3949 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll Thank you so much for the kind response.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbarlow3949 Keep going Chris! You got this!
@persephoneblack888
@persephoneblack888 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of becoming a teacher (I'm a pats currently and became one during the pandemic). I've come across a lot of these videos and honestly they've started scaring me off the profession. I'm starting to lean more towards becoming an epidemiologist or something else in science (since my degree is in science).
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It’s tough because my intention behind this video was never to scare anyone away from the profession. I think there are those who can thrive if they have a unique intersection of specific strengths, passion, and tolerance. I think all teachers are drawn to the profession because they have an instinct to want to help young minds learn and become passionate about something worthwhile. However, the conditions and demands of the job end up burning out people who are dedicated professionals. The job is insanely demanding, and as others have mentioned, it has gotten worse. But as I said, with the right skill set and self care, you can make it work! It wasn’t for me, and at this point, I’ve been out of teaching for almost 5 years and have never looked back. I feel like I am making more of a difference now than I ever was, and I feel more valued and respected in my profession. I also managed to secure a very good sense of work/life balance that I could never have had as a teacher. I know this was a long comment, but I didn’t want to be responsible for scaring you away from what could be your passion! 🔥
@observant3309
@observant3309 2 жыл бұрын
Veteran teacher here. I regret ever taking the degree. Don’t do it.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It is a tough call. I think there is a lot you can take from experiencing the job. The 5 years I spent in the field literally transformed my life and led me to where I am now. I can't say I recommend it as a long term profession, but for some perspective and to open other doors, I'd be lying if I said I regret my time!
@SarahG266
@SarahG266 4 ай бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAllspoken like a true teacher!
@sirendipitybritt
@sirendipitybritt 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you, Bro! So much! Subbed! Great content, sir! Keep it up! You have no idea how much I can relate 👽👏🤲🏻🤟🏼👽thank you for your honesty!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the sub and the kind notes. I think a lot of teachers feel the way we do on a daily basis during regular circumstances, let alone these days!
@matthewcoombs3282
@matthewcoombs3282 6 ай бұрын
I don't work as a Teacher but have friends and family who are. Really the conditions they work under seem to me to be intolerable. There is a lot of guilt about leaving the profession and your students but self care should be paramount. Also know your own self worth. Many of the skills Teachers have are transferable in positions of training, consuelling and management or HR roles with a little re-training.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
This was well said. I remember getting a lot of shade thrown my way by former colleagues as if I was taking a step down rather than an action of self care. That’s why I made this video though! So others can gain the confidence they need if they are in a similar situation!
@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999
@dr.melodyschumann-herb6999 2 жыл бұрын
I "fell" into teaching!!! I was working at a 6 figure job in a fortune 500 telecom company when I learned that my daughter was arrested for drugs. She had a 1 yr old at the time. I rushed to get the baby (now 20 lol) and got full custody. I needed to change jobs in order to take care of her. I couldn't keep flying all over the world on business. I figured that teaching would be "easy" and I'd be home in summer and for holidays. It's 18 years later and I HATE my job. My hair is literally falling out from the stress. I am retiring in 18 days to take a job that I love where I can work at home. We never know where our passion might be needed! I'm joyful now!!!! Hopefully my hair will grow back! LOL
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Melody, thank you for sharing your incredible story! I admire how selfless you were during your transition and imagine you gained so much perspective. Your story truly is inspiring for anyone who believes that it is 'too late' to make a change. I wish you all the joy and comfort that working from home brings and that you can connect with your passions in a way that rewards you for all the wisdom you have gained over the past 20 years!
@dorianmac7466
@dorianmac7466 Жыл бұрын
I had to laugh ( with empathy) when you said your hair fell out from stress. The same thing happend to me. On my job ID for my first day too how I looked two to three months later changes drastically. I had never been in a situation where I was the" bad guy." That was how I felt as a teacher... That's why I for a much better life!
@amandalove2955
@amandalove2955 2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense if you don't already have 28 years in. I've put in too much time to convert. The problems with education only get worse as society coddles kids forever...
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that it is probably way harder being so far into your career. However, a colleague of mine recently left after 25 years and is now thriving in her second career!
@richardgagnon4409
@richardgagnon4409 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughtful words!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
All the best to you!
@DLFfitness1
@DLFfitness1 2 жыл бұрын
When you make anything your identity, you become stuck and or trapped.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This can definitely happen! I try to keep my more value centric passions like my family and lifestyle closer to my heart these days.
@fortusvictus8297
@fortusvictus8297 2 жыл бұрын
I think the psychological phrase is: Our standards become our judge. So the key is to not set standards for ourselves that we would not hold others to. Treat yourself like you were an employee you cared about and all that.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@fortusvictus8297 This is great advice. My problem is I set insane standards for myself and it never feels like I am in control of what those standards are!
@pabloalmady
@pabloalmady 11 ай бұрын
I taught for 20 years in the United States. In 2017, I decided I had had enough. I sold my property in Las Vegas and moved to Guatemala. I teach English to 30 students out of my house. It is so much more rewarding and enjoyable. And the pay is awesome. I make in 12 hours a week, what teachers in actual school settings make in 2 or more weeks. Life in Guatemala is stress free. In the US, you live to work, but in Guatemala you work to live.😅
@sharinaross1865
@sharinaross1865 6 ай бұрын
Are you teaching English to native Spanish speakers?
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like my way of living!
@pabloalmady
@pabloalmady 5 ай бұрын
@@sharinaross1865 Yes I am.
@ArtistFormallyKnownasMC
@ArtistFormallyKnownasMC 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. It’s been a terrible school year.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I will keep you in my thoughts!
@winecrimesfoodandtime7119
@winecrimesfoodandtime7119 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it has last few years
@AGoodEnoughMom
@AGoodEnoughMom 2 жыл бұрын
Our past defines who we are today - so even if I'm not doing what I use to do (being an occupational therapist) I still use those skills I learnt daily now and am so thankful for them. It was difficult to leave my profession but I'm loving being a homeschool mom. So I can really relate to your journey 😊 thank you for sharing 🌻
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a good point. Even if it feels like wasted time, nothing is ever a waste. Homeschooling is so rewarding also.😃
@victoriamartin5414
@victoriamartin5414 Жыл бұрын
I relate to everything you’re saying and im praying a different job opens up for me.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
I hope you are able to find something that allows you to find balance while also using your unique strengths! Do you have anything in mind?
@victoriamartin5414
@victoriamartin5414 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll I’ve got a couple of interviews at some colleges to do administration/enrollment type work. I did that in college and loved it. If you’re the praying type, I surely would love your prayers. :)
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
I will keep you in ours! You got this!
@jimmystate
@jimmystate Жыл бұрын
really fantastic video... viewpoints, and tips, and knowing what you transitioned to
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been meaning to do a followup with more details. It seems that there are many people out there looking for a new direction.
@gemox3225
@gemox3225 13 күн бұрын
I was a bit like you - I used to be (and still am sometimes) petrified of public speaking and I ended up being a professor and having to stand up and talk in front of 100 or even 250 students sometimes. I am also basically an introvert.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 13 күн бұрын
Funny how that happens, isn't it?! Did you end up enjoying yourself? I always wondered about teaching post-secondary and whether there would be less parent pressure, etc.
@gemox3225
@gemox3225 13 күн бұрын
@joyfulthroughitall. I ended up leaving Western Academia. There wasn't much parental pressure but the Woke movement (then called political correctness) and Postmodernism were too fake to tolerate, at least for me as a Liberal Arts professor. Also most people were very pretentious. I suspect unscientific movements like these would not be as powerful in the Math and Sciences.
@jamesdeagle
@jamesdeagle 5 ай бұрын
Well done, very clear and most of all ... very true! James Deagle
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
Cheers James!
@choicelyon2131
@choicelyon2131 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for addressing the perfectionist side of things. I relate strongly to your experiences, and often times people will try to just say to me: "Don't work so hard! It doesn't have to be perfect!" but for my personality, this is incredibly hard to do. So, realistically I don't think teaching is a compatible career for my personality type; my work-life balance seems to get worse as the years go on. Thanks for sharing your experiences! I'm hoping to switch careers after I close out this year.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing worse then hearing “don’t work so hard”. I totally get it. I’ve never been one to strive for mediocrity, so that’s a tough standard to set for yourself. It’s also important to be passionate about your work without having to limit yourself. I wish you the best in your transition! Do you have any plans or potential pathways?
@choicelyon2131
@choicelyon2131 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll Yes, exactly! I appreciate the validation! In a sense, I'd rather work extra hours and be proud of doing my best work than work less and feel like it's a bit sloppy for my standards. Thanks for asking - I've been considering academic advising at the university level. I'm trying to research the work-life balance of that field, and so far it seems like it would be an improvement from my current level.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
This is so well said. It is all about finding your passion and purpose. With that, it doesn't even feel like work! I feel like that would be a good fit for a person with the perspective that you have. You would bring a lot of real world experience from your transition in jobs. I wish you only the best!
@choicelyon2131
@choicelyon2131 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll Thank you so much for your thoughtful response 🙏 I am hoping I can apply all that I've learned to a field that makes me feel happier and more balanced. 🙂
@Hilaire_Balrog
@Hilaire_Balrog 20 күн бұрын
Right now, teaching at a decent private school is fine but its just not paying me what I need to make and beyond being an administrator, which i have no desire to do, there is no path for real income growth. With a kid about to go to college in a year and no raise for the upcoming year (plus teaching a grade that I am definitely NOT looking forward to) means I need to work hard this summer on finding something new.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 20 күн бұрын
What are your passions? Are there any ways that you can repurpose your teachable subjects in another career?
@wheatstonebridge
@wheatstonebridge 4 ай бұрын
Ive been an educational assistant for about 12 years now. I really dislike my job and Ive noticed a difference in behaviours and demands. Im quitting my job and will be joining the trades instead. I hope to resign from the school district once I start doing trade work.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 4 ай бұрын
I wish you the best! I am curious about your journey to the trades! What inspired you and what specific trades will you be pursuing?
@elementarymusicrocks5984
@elementarymusicrocks5984 2 жыл бұрын
100% Agree with knowing your personality. Loving doing something is so very different that teaching it!!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true though. Passion can only take you so far. There is no shame at all in taking your strengths and passions elsewhere. By the way, my wife and I homeschool our daughter and I am starting a music unit with her in the new year. I just subscribed and plan on using some of your stuff! Thanks for the unique idea for a channel!
@TheWolfSaidPoofy
@TheWolfSaidPoofy 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I'm thinking I won't be able to stick it out as a teacher, and it ultimately comes down to health reasons and NOT the actual gripes I have with the profession. I went into teaching because I was lost and desperate to finally major in something. I suffer from depression, OCD, anxiety, executive dysfunction, and more, and I knew coming into teaching that it was going to be hard and far from ideal for me. As it turns out, it has its difficulty but it's something I feel I could thrive in as a career, IF it wasn't specifically for my executive dysfunction. Sometimes teachers feel like they're drowning with work, that's always me x 3 and then some. It's hard to get work started, continued, or finished, and if I finish it's usually at a subpar level. Tis a pity because I think this could work despite all my other issues.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember that you still have unique strengths, despite the obstacles you described! How can you use the strengths you have to find work that you are still passionate about? Check out the next part of my story for some inspiration! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMhhaKSp0ZipeXk.html
@MichelleGayScienceTeacher
@MichelleGayScienceTeacher 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@kathryncainmadsen5850
@kathryncainmadsen5850 2 жыл бұрын
I never heard ANY adult telling teens to hurry and make decisions about what they wanted and I taught 35 years. But I have heard them pushing for college.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
For me it was just pressure that was being applied from so many directions. I’m sure it wasn’t as bad as I remember, but as a high strung perfectionist, I felt cornered into diving into whatever I was doing at the time. The good news is, it got me to where I am now, and if it weren’t for teaching, I never would have met my wife! #gratitude
@TheCozinessCode
@TheCozinessCode Жыл бұрын
I started teaching in the pandemic, but no year has been the same as the last for the past 3 years. I haven’t actually experienced a full 140-150 student roster that many teachers have to face - and I cannot possibly imagine myself doing that. I’m lucky to be in an alternative teaching environment now with much smaller class sizes, but even then, I too have perfectionist tendencies and I get stressed trying to make lessons with my smaller classes and different schedule. I also get nervous speaking in front of other people… which is why I feel that I MUST be prepared otherwise I will not have a clue what to do. This is a good thing I suppose. I also don’t have a background in education, so that makes it more difficult. I’ve found that focusing on the students and helping them more on a 1:1 basis is much easier for me - I feel I am quite good at that. But the workload as a new teacher is, quite frankly, ridiculous. The best teachers in the country could put their lessons in a file, and the government could distribute those files to all new teachers to model for them how lessons should be set up, how classes should be run, etc etc. It would allow teachers to actually focus on the teaching and supporting students and not on the ridiculous amount of lesson prep. I’d still like to be involved in education, but I’m trying to find where that might be.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
The prep is definitely insane. In my final year, knowing that I was quitting, I practiced just walking in and sort of 'winging it'. It was insanely stressful, but knowing that I was leaving made it a lot easier. I don't know how people operate like that regularly! I just checked out your channel (in particular your video on how you arranged your apartment). First of all, dude, you have a real knack for video production and audience retention (this is something that I am working at on my math channel that I run). Your video was so engaging that I watched the whole thing without even really being interested in the topic! And second of all, you seem really passionate about that niche. Have you ever considered pursuing it as a job? I'm not sure what the exact job would be, but there has to be something! It might even feel like 1:1 teaching if you are helping people organize their spaces.
@MDonteMoore
@MDonteMoore 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a teacher but I think this is pretty good for everyone visiting that cross roads in your life. I know I am and I found it helpful. Thank you for sharing.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. When I watch this back I wish that I could tell my younger self these things. Or just that version of myself that was going through it at the time. All the best to you during this time!
@robinrainmaker7232
@robinrainmaker7232 2 жыл бұрын
Great ideas!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊 I wish you the best!
@atomictime9410
@atomictime9410 Жыл бұрын
I have a Air Force retirement and decided to sub with my Masters Degree. I did it for two years in Southern Califirnia. A few diferent districts. The kids are monsters and the administration doesn't support decipline in the classroom. Hearing the other teachers stories you think they were all prison guards
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
There are certainly similarities aren’t there!
@cameliomack9932
@cameliomack9932 2 жыл бұрын
Someone please tell me where all this "hate your local teacher" stuff is coming from? Fairly frequently the Washington Post has another "teacher outrage" story, and I'm sick of them. Everybody reads it, and then says "fire that teacher"! What is that about? The topics vary, but the most recent one was a teacher who accidentally called a girl who identified as trans, "Miss". The parents complained, so the teacher was suspended. Now, they are threatening to fire her! Then, there were the teachers that taught some unapproved things about slavery. They were true, but they upset some parents. A local teacher was arrested last year for helping a little boy put on his coat. The boy said the teacher brushed up against him wrong. There were no other accusations, but that was enough. A movie was made about a teacher who referenced the Bible in a history class! They tried to fire her! When will the insanity end, and we just really develop an appreciation for the profession and the people? BTW: I'm a former Engineer, never a teacher. Just someone tired of hearing teachers getting trashed for no reason...
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a function of the culture right now. Teachers are already held to a high standard when it comes to keeping up with changes in social trends. There are so many sensitive things to keep in mind these days that people are happy to jump in whenever someone makes a mistake.
@robertdufour2456
@robertdufour2456 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! My best to you my friend!
@priscillajimenez27
@priscillajimenez27 2 жыл бұрын
Dealt with a lot of mental and physical abuse as well as sabotage from staff.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you courage and strength!
@historian909
@historian909 Жыл бұрын
I left due to mental health issues after only 3 months of teaching. I'm going back to school now to learn business
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Your courage is inspiring. I am sure it was not an easy decision or process, but it is great to see you making a change before letting the job impact your wellbeing any more than it has. All the best on your new journey my friend!
@johnnyboyvan
@johnnyboyvan Жыл бұрын
I retire next school year after 32 years. I love teaching but not the changes I have been witnessing. Never take anything too personally and put the work aside as much as possible. Freedom on the horizon. Over 6000 kids and survived and thrived. Get rid of staff meetings...lol .
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Congrats on a retirement well earned!
@sharinaross1865
@sharinaross1865 6 ай бұрын
Congrats on your retirement. 32 years dedicated to other people's children is a long time.
@bcc7777
@bcc7777 Жыл бұрын
It's not hard to get teaching job, because they're desperate. It's hard to be happy in a teaching job. NOT because you don't like teaching, because you're treated like crap.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
It was insanely hard to get a job when I started teaching. This was the main reason I struggled to leave and why I put up with the conditions for so long. Regardless though, we all deserve to love the work that we do!
@niamhbatstone269
@niamhbatstone269 2 жыл бұрын
I taught high school for a year after majoring in English and History and having no idea what I wanted to do career-wise. I adored my students, but my perfectionism and procrastination combo made every day so, so stressful, as I felt like I needed to be spending pretty much all day every day prepping for classes, and I just couldn't do it (there were some administrative circumstances as well that really drove me to leave after a year, but I don't think I would have stayed for longer than 2-3 years ultimately). It took some serious soul-searching to kind of come up with a list of what I wanted out of a job, and what would actually fit my personality (an active job where I was on my feet and moving around (preferably outside when possible), a 9-5 type job that I didn't have to think about when I came home, a job with lots of variety, a job that paid well enough that I could work part time and work on writing which has always been my passion, and a job where I felt like I was truly helping the people in my community) and I eventually decided on veterinary medicine. After a year of working as a vet assistant and taking prerequisite courses, I just got accepted into vet school and I'm really excited for what the future holds. More than that even though, I'm grateful to have had the chance to do a complete career 180. It takes a lot of guts, but it's possible!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of parallels between our stories! It is great to hear a career change success story. I hope anyone who watches this video sees this comment because it is another example of how it is 100% possible to do a complete 180! 🔥
@rimbaudification
@rimbaudification 9 ай бұрын
I’m a writer too. I’ve considered teaching many times. I have degrees in Spanish and creative writing. I have been a k-12 tutor which I loved but I’m 54 so I might be going back to the postal service (which I hate) for the financial stability. I’ve really only had odd jobs, part time jobs, and no jobs. I really don’t have a clue what I’m doing, except when I’m writing poems. Nice to hear there’s another writer out there. Best of luck with vet school.
@sharinaross1865
@sharinaross1865 6 ай бұрын
Best of luck in veterinarian school. Heard they work sun up to sun down.
@theinquisitor18
@theinquisitor18 2 жыл бұрын
I graduate with two degrees in computing. I've been offered a teaching job to teach very entry level computing. I know that's the exact opposite of the topic of this video, but I wanted to share it.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh. Your story is literally the exact inverse of mine! I love it!
@queenofwater8783
@queenofwater8783 6 ай бұрын
I retired early after 20 years. I found the post-Covid student, and even some parent, behavior absolutely untenable. I had never been treated so horribly.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
It sounds like you made a good choice. I hope you are flourishing on your new path!
@Chibling
@Chibling Жыл бұрын
Parents should have a license to have kids.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Interesting thought, but that would imply that there is some sort of standard to which parents can be held, and who sets that standard?
@Chibling
@Chibling Жыл бұрын
​@@JoyfulThroughItAll We already ask parents to not shake their babies. License level 1 would be passing a written multiple choice test on development from ages 1-3, and taking home of a baby android type of thing that records how it is treated. If they pass that, then they need to pass another test informed by developmental psychology and other important data on parenting styles etc. Once this is completed, they have to pass the same kind of interview that adoptive parents pass. After this, the birth control implant is removed. This would never happen, religion already has its own plans with children.
@dorianmac7466
@dorianmac7466 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like a driver's license ..at least a certificate, or card; something to show you've at least thought about the necessary requirements😉 of raising children
@psolver8147
@psolver8147 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how similar our lives are. Growing up I was a perfectionist, anxious, pressured from a parent to get into a respected career and had teaching constantly being told something I should do. I finally left after having no choice through going through depression. I should’ve left after year 1. Stayed 6 years and health took a decline.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, that is uncanny! I hope you managed to find something you are passionate about and that allows you to use your strengths in a different way! Sending all the positive vibes your way! 👊
@KARMAZYNA
@KARMAZYNA 5 ай бұрын
I quit over 3 years ago after teaching for 6 years. Haven't regretted this decision since. True, there were aspects of teaching that I absolutely loved and that I miss often, but they were far and few between, and definitely not enough to keep me there.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
We share feelings! In general I just look back with gratitude and am happy to be where I am now!
@DIAMONDGIRL57
@DIAMONDGIRL57 3 ай бұрын
I shared with patents their children need to study; read at least 90 minutes per day dedicated/set aside for reading. They thought it was too much time for one class.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 3 ай бұрын
Parents have to be one of the most difficult stakeholders to satisfy.
@jalcal2460
@jalcal2460 2 жыл бұрын
Also , I so wish I could have had you as a teacher in middle/high school because my introversion was misunderstood by some teachers. On eminent that stood out was when we were reading a play in English class and the teacher looked right at me and threatened the class she would take off points if more of us didn’t step up and volunteer to read. If you really wanted so much” participation “ just assign parts in rotation. She meant well...
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can't really bully participation out of people can you!
@robertreyes5036
@robertreyes5036 Жыл бұрын
I taught middle and elementary school orchestra for 16 years. Stayed away from high school because I knew how hard it was. I’m now teaching high school this year and last year and I’m working 30 times harder for the same money
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
My thinking was always that the parents would be worse in elementary school. But I feel that isn’t really reality. What is it specifically that makes high school more work? I’m curious to hear your opinion as someone who has done both!
@hypershadw
@hypershadw Жыл бұрын
Did you quit and then go into your new web designing career or did you have a plan already set before you quit?
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
When I quit I didn't really have a concrete plan. The only thing I knew I was going to do was tutor to have somewhat of an income while I figured things out. During this time I started just applying to other teaching related jobs. I ended up teaching part time online for a school that needed courses built and had no one to do the work. I started taking courses online for web dev since I had so much more free time (ie. no prep/flexible hours) and before long that had become my FT thing. And here I am 5 years later still doing it! PS: love the mega man photo!
@hypershadw
@hypershadw 9 ай бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll Thank you! The main thing I have run into is the frequently changing expectations. I was the same as you staying after school to make sure all my lesson plans were perfect until like 6-7 at night. The bar was constantly changing and it has been a challenge to try to meet up to expectations. I decided to exit with the birth of my child in January with the hopes to pursuit a bachelors in Biology. Since I am already a Biology teacher with a bachelors in secondary education and focus in general science and Biology this reduced the credit hours I have to take to just 2 semesters (1 full year). With FMLA I realized that I can stay away from work and keep my insurance while also getting paid. I have been there since 2020 but I feel I got burnout faster due to the clients we have. I work at a level 3 facility which is 1 step away from a detention center. Due to limited staff, scheduling is a constant nightmare along with behavior problems are frequent. I appreciate the mentality of "If I quit I'm a failure" Being shown that it isn't correct. I had that thought for the longest time and feel better knowing that others have gone through similar instances as me.
@YT-ov7sw
@YT-ov7sw 3 ай бұрын
Could people share what they got into after teaching please? Thanks😊
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 3 ай бұрын
I've been meaning to make a video about this for a while but haven't been able to find the time! Basically, after I left teaching I started teaching online. There are plenty of jobs teaching online for private schools that can get you started doing this. I hustled for a couple years doing that and ended up accepting a head of department role at the online school. After a few years it turns out the school needed more support writing and developing courses. I took a few online courses in web development and ended up overseeing all of the course development for the school! My story follows a pretty specific path that not everyone will be interested in. But I do encourage looking for online teaching jobs as it keeps you sort of in the field without a lot of the pressures of being in a physical classroom. This will give you the time and breathing room to find something that you love doing!
@rachelj0an
@rachelj0an 2 жыл бұрын
After 20+years in trenches...math and business courses...there are too many outside variables...administration,student behavior problems,parents who either thought Jr. was a genius or they didnt care...co-teachers who put ut mildly were jerks...were the deciding factor to leave thus level of education action. I concentrated on higher education and love it...no parental interference or level of behavior problems.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy to hear you found a place to use your strengths and teaching gifts! The higher education route is one of many alternate paths for teachers who still want to teach! Thanks for sharing!
@Juliet42110
@Juliet42110 7 ай бұрын
You sound like you are such a great dad and husband.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 7 ай бұрын
My family is my compass!
@prettynatural1973
@prettynatural1973 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Hope this one helps you out in your journey!
@historyhongkong7521
@historyhongkong7521 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask which field can one change after worked as a teacher please?
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on your subject background, but in general, teachers tend to be knowledgeable, organized, critical thinkers who are skilled communicators. I recommend combining this general skillset with your own passions and interests to see what interests you. You may also want to look at additional education to bridge any gaps in qualifications. For me, I started with tutoring math, which led to pursuing online teaching, which further lead to leadership opportunities, followed by development work at the online school. I took a bunch of online courses and am now a web developer! This is a career that wasn’t even in my scope when I first left teaching, so the sky is the limit! Best of luck in your search!
@julieduncan4075
@julieduncan4075 Жыл бұрын
You are so lucky to have found something you love doing that pays.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Very fortunate. It wasn't always that way though. There was a lot of struggle and a lot of uncertainty. But these are necessary steps in order to get to doing something that you love. Are you in education also? Are you considering a career change?
@julieduncan4075
@julieduncan4075 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll I’m in my 22nd year and have taught kindergarten for the last 14. I’ve seen things, even at the sheltered rural charter school where I’ve spent my entire career. I have an amazing administrator, but even she can not stem the tide of evil that is washing over public education. I don’t know how much longer I can put up with it. I only have a few more years before I can retire, but feel like I could be entirely drained of my will to live by then. I’ve tried to get out a few times, but the security of a consistent paycheck and insurance, however crappy, keeps me trammeled. People depend on me, so I won’t just up and quit. It’s a constant conundrum that I struggle with every waking moment. Not sure why I just spilled my guts like that. Sorry.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
No need to apologize. It can be difficult to feel stuck in a job that you know isn't what you want to be doing. It sounds like you find meaning in supporting those that depend on you at least. Sometimes that is enough to carry us through. I wish you all the best as you navigate the last few years before your hard earned retirement!
@julieduncan4075
@julieduncan4075 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll Thank you kindly. 🙂
@cyndig1670
@cyndig1670 Жыл бұрын
The demands for teachers, disrespect and low pay is a joke. What is America thinking? Good for your wife!!!! Smart lady!
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Without her I am lost!
@TheMindfulMillennial12
@TheMindfulMillennial12 2 жыл бұрын
I left teaching K-8 music :)
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
There were probably some SUPER rewarding and adorable moments in that role, but I can imagine it being a draining job. Were you able to use your passion for music somewhere else? Music has such power to give us life and connect with ourselves. It would be a shame for you to not be able to use your gifts after leaving your job!
@kevtherev8194
@kevtherev8194 2 жыл бұрын
you are a natural psychologist
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the result of years and years of reading and studying. Both the literature and myself!
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 2 жыл бұрын
I have taught high school for 29 years. Its been mostly a good experience. Young teachers expect too much of themselves and of other people. You can't do everything. And other people don't care about you that much.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it has been a good experience for you. It is always nice to hear of someone who has made it work for them for that long!
@MaSa-qv7pi
@MaSa-qv7pi Жыл бұрын
I spend the past few years teaching overseas and loved it. However coming back to the US reminded me that teachers don’t make a living wage so I’m looking for a career change
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
Any idea where you are heading next?
@MaSa-qv7pi
@MaSa-qv7pi Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll ideally I'd like to get into tech because of the good health insurance. Just have to make peace with programming first
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
That's the route I took and I love it. I was never strong in programming, but I sucked it up and took a pile of online courses and am loving it now!
@MaSa-qv7pi
@MaSa-qv7pi Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll What resources did you use? I’m trying to exhaust Free Code Camp best I can
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
I had a subscription to Codecademy that got me started with a lot of the basics I was lacking. Their stuff is a bit of a mixed bag though in terms of quality. Have you heard of the Odin Project? Its an open-source free resource that is of surprisingly high quality! www.theodinproject.com/
@jalcal2460
@jalcal2460 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there are many teachers that shouldn’t be teaching but insist they love their jobs !
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It is common for sure!
@mathisnotforthefaintofheart
@mathisnotforthefaintofheart 2 жыл бұрын
The same can be said about pastors, police and politicians...
@learnsmartwithalfred8263
@learnsmartwithalfred8263 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of share a similar experience with ya.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I hope things work out for you and that you find work that you love!
@LLS710
@LLS710 9 ай бұрын
IF you completed your 5th year good for you because you will receive benefits for life. It may not be much, but it's something
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 9 ай бұрын
I learned more in those 5 years about myself than I can say. Truly a transformative experience in the best possible way.
@LLS710
@LLS710 9 ай бұрын
Yay! Good! I've learned from 5 x 5 that I can take a whole lot of humiliation and bullish*t than I realized,, LOl. but there is a lot about teaching that is so comfortable and enjoyable. But . . . I'm making this my last year. I now have known six innocent men all accused by females of being inappropriate because they got angry at the teacher or coach for SOME reason. We are talking before even junior high. All of these men had to go through hell, none of the four students stuck with their original story (the fifth was a false accusation by a mother) and four of the teachers were mandatory transferred. The last was sent home for a YEAR. He somehow got to go back to our site. That final case was the mother making stories up. Anyway, I feel like anyone at any time can just say anything and the cops will have me detained. (This only applies to males, obviously). Add to that the following scene: I'm brand new to a new site. Some sixth grade boys are being bad outside the classroom. I came out and told them sternly to stop it. A mother immediately starts filming me. Turns out she's the head of the PTA at our site. How do YOU think it looks when all that's filmed is me yelling at the kids? They look innocent. I look like a psycho. I'm retiring this year, or any day before the end of the year if I feel like it.@@JoyfulThroughItAll
@albertlee2462
@albertlee2462 2 жыл бұрын
is there any way we can chat about this topic sometime
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Of course! You can always reach us at the email on our channel's About page (team@joyfulthroughitall.com)
@gerberjoanne266
@gerberjoanne266 Жыл бұрын
There should be a lot more done for career guidance at both the high school and college levels. Otherwise, students make career decisions based on immature thinking, inadequate knowledge of the limitations in the job market, inadequate or no knowledge of less well-known jobs/professions that could be better choices, and limited awareness of the emotional/personality/temperamental requirements of various professions (it's not just about credentials). It seems that too much is left to chance or shallow thinking, leaving people to make mistakes that could cost them years in the wrong job. Of course, the experience could still be valuable, as it may enable you to grow on a personal level or give you experience and skills that you can carry over into another job. Still, I think that people would be happier if they could avoid wrong choices in the first place.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
This is so true. It’s so hard to make an informed decision so young. And nothing can prepare you for the actual experience when you get there.
@dominickostamo4422
@dominickostamo4422 10 ай бұрын
This guy spent most this video talking about how he’s a perfectionist. He must’ve said it 100 times.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 10 ай бұрын
I mean, it is the reason why I quit teaching high school... You click? I deliver my guy.
@5forhim787
@5forhim787 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me sad to hear this as a lifelong teacher now retired….My input is, like police officers, teachers must wear too many hats. A human is incapable of spreading out their emotions over so many issues they must be accountable to in today’s environment. Here it started with President Reagan where he convinced the public that teaching is only a science and must be modeled. The left here is also culpable in that they view the teaching environments as primarily a complicated social welfare day care. I must add though to this person that your age group spends too little time as a teacher and see non classroom advancement as a better goal. Schools are filled with 26 year old managers, its what board members want.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it seems more and more common. Myself, my priorities were just elsewhere. I was replaceable as a teacher, but I was not replaceable at home. In addition, there was work out there that was much more in line with my passions and strengths that was a fraction of the stress and work that teaching turned out to be for me.
@asifmuniruniverse7732
@asifmuniruniverse7732 Жыл бұрын
Silence is better for health
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
It’s my preferred atmosphere
@StopWhining491
@StopWhining491 2 жыл бұрын
Teaching, particularly in public schools, is no longer a respected profession. Administration and politics has accomplished that. If you want to teach, do it on your own.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
I first started noticing this after a pile of really intense parent interviews. Parents seem less interested in having their children actually learn and grow and more interested in just 'getting high marks'. For me, I burnt out trying to convince families of the importance of just having a love of learning, and letting the marks come.
@tewanwilson
@tewanwilson 2 жыл бұрын
Passion can only carry you so far! You can say that again my brother because I don’t think they heard you lol
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true though isn’t it? There is always a call for passionate and engaging teachers. This is what I would say is one of the most important characteristics of an effective teacher. But there needs to be room for self-care in the profession also.
@michaelwallace1189
@michaelwallace1189 Жыл бұрын
I see two massive and insurmountable problems with education. The first is the fact that schools, districts and laws favor equity of outcomes rather than equality of opportunity. The very nature of education and, supposedly the purpose, demands a merit based system that offers the exact same opportunity to every student, but not the same result. It has to be up to the learner to acquire the knowledge. Nothing else can ever work. Second is the testing culture. In nature, an organism will seek the place of greatest comfort in its ecosystem. The artificial pressures of high stakes tests create a culture of teaching to the tests. I know we say that doesn't happen and teachers will fight you for it, but it's true. For example, literacy. We begin early by giving students materials that mirror the materials on the tests. Boring, vapid, disconnected and unimportant reading that is short and followed by mc questions or skills instruction that reinforces how poorly the students performed on an unnatural task they never cared about. We start this in third or fourth grade to save ourselves, not to teach students about the author's craft of story, not to engage the learner with dynamic and interesting characters they want to find out about, and because of this we start from the very beginning with serious deficiencies in literacy. We have destroyed their desire to read for pleasure, which must come first. That's the short version...
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
These are all valid critiques of a very flawed system. I think this is why the homeschool model has gained so much traction. With the right resources, parents can foster their children’s interests in an authentic way that doesn’t fall into all the flaws you discussed.
@markterry1915
@markterry1915 2 жыл бұрын
Parents of soon to be 1st time students within the elementary level are going to be in for a long drawn out process that has never been ventured before. Families are more complex and unpredictable today - no single family fits nicely into a single box as one did 25 or more years ago. Therefore, teaching comes w/ demands that depletes peace of mind, sense of accomplishments, self priority pushed aside, mundane tasks ignored from being overwhelmed with other needless day to day interuptions...
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good observation and highlights the need for ongoing professional development and vigilance! Teachers that want to avoid burnout have to stay on their toes for sure.
@markterry1915
@markterry1915 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll Everyone must decide on what brings value to society that benefits the masses that begins with a motivation to excel other people expectations. One should not go into a field of occupation because one's parents told them so: but rather the contrary. Another thought. Why should anyone care if one enter the field of teaching only to later quit? What noble thing did one accomplish? The American school system wasn't that great anyways!!
@rimbaudification
@rimbaudification 9 ай бұрын
Gone are the days of sacrifice.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 9 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@eshadiva6600
@eshadiva6600 2 жыл бұрын
I quit after 5 years also I get it
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
What did you end up pursuing afterwards?
@eshadiva6600
@eshadiva6600 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll law but only made it to paralegal now I am doing a little real estate.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are keeping things fresh!
@ThisisPam
@ThisisPam Ай бұрын
Bingo ❤
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 20 күн бұрын
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@marcmeinzer8859
@marcmeinzer8859 Жыл бұрын
To me there is little room for perfectionism in the teaching field for the simple reason that you are opening a wedge which outside forces can then exploit to drive you nuts. This is because you’re dealing with kids, not paid co-workers, so you have virtually no leverage to get them dismissed for failing to cooperate or produce. And typically, most of the students are boring, fairly dumb, have never been anywhere nor done much of anything, and although you can get them to work in class good luck getting them to do their homework is all I can say. So there is a very real limit to what they are capable of absorbing, and you’ve got to realize that they’re only kids. When teaching a self contained parochial 7th grade class with some 8th grade courses on the side I found the bottom third of the kids virtually incapable of performing even the simplest arithmetic, which astonished me at time considering how I’d been in the navigational rating [quartermaster] in the navy! So I was just incredulous. Nor could I really get away with flunking anyone either as this wasn’t high school. The jaded teachers I went to grad school with at Cleveland State referred to teaching as “herding worms”. I quit after seven years.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll Жыл бұрын
It's true. In fact, in hindsight, it seems that 'mediocre' was the standard to strive for rather than perfection! The teachers that last seem to be the ones that just are indifferent to almost everything they come across.
@marcmeinzer8859
@marcmeinzer8859 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulThroughItAll You should really look into becoming an actuary. I once went SCUBA diving with an actuary which is the perfect job for a mathematics nerd/fanatic. Were I actually forced to return to teaching, which is only hypothetical since I’m retired and 67 years old, I’d go back to school to get certified as an art teacher. High school art is a pure elective and with virtually no paperwork involved either, since you’re just eyeballing their work to assign grades. But to be realistic, the educational bureaucracy has doubtlessly ruined art instruction as well, by for instance simply de-funding it since all they’re doing now is teaching to the proficiency tests.
@dbs555
@dbs555 6 ай бұрын
You would have quit in the first year if you had me as a math student. Dyscalculia and dyslexia makes numbers and letters as presented in algebra unintelligible. No amount of tutoring or practice helps and your need for perfection wouldn't allow you to fail at something beyond anyone's capabilities.
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 5 ай бұрын
I never found struggling students to be that stressful. They usually gave you an opportunity to make a lasting difference.
@SaidAhmad
@SaidAhmad 4 ай бұрын
30 year retired teacher here. Teaching is hard. The skills you need to be a good teacher are hard won during the course of one’s career. All of the complaints I’ve heard on this and similar videos highlighting former teachers who quit the profession have been experienced by those of us who did not quit but stuck it out because we value the contributions we as teachers have to make to our students and the community that makes up our particular school district. If you find disruptive students, overbearing and unresponsive administrators, large classroom sizes, irresponsible parenting, lack of prep time plus other resources needed to do your job, all these things, reasons for quitting a profession with tremendous impact on your community, then, it may be that you were not qualified for the position from the get go. It is better to quit out right at the end of your first year than be a quiet quitter and hurt the reputation of the profession for which you clearly do not have the aptitude. Real teachers do not abandon their students and communities because it is hard. ( this of course, does not mean that we cannot complain, and strive to make things better).
@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 4 ай бұрын
The reality is things have changed a lot and the demands are quite simply not reasonable for even "real teachers" as you put it. Education has not adapted well to all of the profound changes we've seen in the last few years. There are also so many ways that a teacher can teach without being bound to the classroom. For example, I've been teaching math on KZfaq for years and have reached and impacted significantly more students than I ever did in the classroom. The students are also much more grateful and appreciative than most of the students I worked with in my time in the classroom. Most importantly though, I think one of the responsibilities of a "real teacher" should be to model self preservation. Let's teach the next generation that there is more to a job than giving your own wellness to it.
@dextermcgrubbin
@dextermcgrubbin 2 жыл бұрын
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@JoyfulThroughItAll
@JoyfulThroughItAll 2 жыл бұрын
The advice I give at that time stamp was literally what motivated me to make a change.
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