Why I Sold The Worlds Greatest Overland Trailer

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Why I Sold The Worlds Greatest Overland Trailer
The famed Conqueror trailer went with us across the US. These are considered by many to be the greatest off road trailers on the planet. I camped, explored and lived inside of it for weeks at a time. It has all the features you could want, and it looks tough as nails. So why did I sell my overland trailer? I do still believe this is one of the worlds greatest pieces of overland equipment, but lets get into why I sold the worlds greatest overland trailer....
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@freddiemartinez7192 2 жыл бұрын

I bought my Conqueror in 2017, before there were so many options with off-road trailers. They have been making this trailer now for almost 30 years as the ultimate off-grid base camp. That’s how it was advertised and that’s why I bought it. I appreciate your comments that it doesn’t fit what you do. The ultimate design is that you set base camp and deploy the Rally Tent as a place to eat and store gear out of the elements. Then you can stay for a few days and be “at home.” I know several people who have lived out of their Conquerors for several years and two couples that live in their Conquerors full time. I think it is the toughest rig for its size and capabilities, and many other platforms are based on this build especially the “A-Arm” suspension. Good luck with your new project and I look forward to see how you build your new rig to match your needs!!

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Freddie! I recognize the name from the Facebook group. Yes, it’s an awesome camper for sure. It’s perfect for most people who like to set up for days at a time. I already have a little sellers remorse, but new cool stuff will occupy my mind soon. I definitely don’t think the Conquerors are bad at all, just not for me at this point in my life. Enjoy the warm season bud!

@freddiemartinez7192 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland Make sure you let us know when you are in Southern AZ and we’ll take you on a run near the vineyards!!

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

@@freddiemartinez7192 Very kind of you to offer, thanks Freddie! If I find myself down that direction I will let you know! Thank you!

@mixflip 2 жыл бұрын

I have always liked the idea of a shelter that is always setup at a moments notice. Wind, sand, rain, dust, bugs....just hop in and relax or work on videos.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the conqueror can do just that. Pop the top, and your good to go. But resetting up the table, moving gear around, etc is a bit of a hassle and then it has to be set outside. The next rig I will build specifically for me, and I think that will solve this type of issue.

@christianmillhollon4481 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland this is one of them lol

@oscarbriceno978 2 жыл бұрын

The most recent Conqueror Trailers coming to the USA have changes to accomodate US Overlanders. Look at RV of American, their versions don't have the old awning.

@dickinaroundoutdoors8609 2 жыл бұрын

I have never owned a trailer despite the itch many times. I am glad I saw this video as it really confirms all the concerns I have had about a trailer. It sounds like you are still going to have quite a setup. I have yet to move from a tent but I am starting to think about moving into something new (given lead times probably 1+ years!) and I think the slide in pickup camper might be my choice.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always had concerns for my own use case, but decided I wanted to know for sure. Glad it helped your curiosity.

@arkos55 Жыл бұрын

We went from backpacking to car tent camping on occasion to a small square drop, and now moving on to a slightly bigger off-road trailer with some inside space. Rented a sprinter for one trip and absolutely hated being tied down to the campsite after set-up, so could never see going with anything that’s tied to the drive vehicle because we like to move around too much. Our new trailer takes like five minutes to set up or take down because we studiously avoid all the outdoor walls and such. I would also never call a made in China Conqueror the best trailer in the world when there are made in Aussie and US trailers that blow it away now. It’s a good trailer, but anything that requires all that setup is just a pain in the neck as you found out. I just could never go with something like an alu cab on a truck when it traps you at the site after set up. Will be interesting to see how you find it after a while.

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

The new Conquerors are made in China, but this one was SA built. There are downsides to being tied down to camp but I prefer it for the most part. I like having everything with me at all times. It’s awesome that we have so many options to choose from!

@michaelnugara1 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the honest review. Everything you mentioned about it being a pain to set up, is what was on my mind. I also think it's too heavy and the payload is too low. Towing with the FJ you must've used sooo much fuel. Thanks for sharing Mick

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

It actually pulled it surprisingly well, and I only lost about 3mpg. Of course a better tow rig would have been better, but it wasn’t horrible. A lot of people complain about the 490 payload. It seems if you filled it up every storage compartment and the wood rack you could easily be over.

@ramzizaz 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear about the direction you are going in. That's what I assume I will do too once the kids get bigger to comfortable take the gx460 and the dog. I have rented a teton x trailer before but getting through trails here in Colorado was a challenge. I am thinking of more bigger truck, tundra, zr2 silverado or rebel with a diesel and a Hiatus Camper since it's hard sided and seems to offer more space than most wedge style campers. ™

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’d love a full size too, but I would have to sacrifice a lot of the places I go using one. So I’m going to stick with midsize and just accept us won’t be huge inside.

@pytheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another great vid! And straight talk! I had no idea the break down and checkout would take that long, but there it is. So, the ultimate,... no single one solution. Tundra for max space, Taco without crew cab for great maneuverability... Maybe TAV truck bed from paired with maybe the AT Atlas or Super Pacific? Have you decided on what you're going to next? (Please accept my apologies if I missed this conclusion in another vid.)

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Derek! Yeah I have decided on what I’m doing, it’ll be a truck type build. I’m slowly unveiling exactly what I’m doing. It’ll be Alucab for sure! I will say though, the Tacoma with or without the crew cab is not he same length since you cant get the single cab anymore. And we have the dog so we need the extra space in the back for her. So I’ll have to deal with a longer wheel base unfortunately.

@pytheus 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland Awesome!! Thanks for the gracious response! I'm excited to see and learn about your new build. Happy trails!

@victorcrawford4379 Жыл бұрын

Tell me about how the FJ pulled with everything loaded? I have a 4runner and have been eyeballing the 490. I am a basecamp hunter, so I'd like your opinion. MPGs don't matter to me, I just need to know how it towed on the highway and the "hills" of Colorado. Wolf Creek, Lizard head, and Red Mountain Passes come to mind.

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

Hey Victor, the Fj did okay. Going up major inclines I would be slowed down dramatically. Vail pass was 3rd gear and 50mph max. I am heavily modified and heavy, so that didn't help. I am regeared to 4.56 gears which was a huge help. Its slow going, but doable. My Toyota has never been a speed machine so it really didn't bother me too much. Off road wasn't bad at all. In low range it did surprisingly well. I didn't take it over anything crazy but it always held its own off the pavement. For a hunting setup it would be pretty ideal!

@victorcrawford4379 Жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland appreciate the info!

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

@@victorcrawford4379 happy to help

@freedomrider266 Жыл бұрын

You will be over the 4runner's max tow with this.... I love the UEV 490, but you MUST have the right vehicle to avoid towing at/over the 4runner/FJ Cruiser max!

@theawakeningpremie 2 жыл бұрын

OMG Natalia sooo good to see you in the video.... it's me Premie 😘😘😘 from Egypt ! 👍 Rest of the video is also good 😁

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Premie! I have heard a lot about you! Natalia has told me some cool stories from the pyramids, sounds like it was quite the experience! Thanks for checking out the channel!

@theawakeningpremie 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland Hi nice to meet you too, heard so much about you, and love your videos, but have to admit don't know that much about it 😁 you guys have to visit me in the Netherlands, you can make some videos here 👍🤗

@thecosmiclibrary6798 2 жыл бұрын

Premie!!! So good to connect on here!! This is Natalia 😁 We have already talked about coming to see you and doing videos there!! Lol I told him that was a must go destination as soon as I got back haha! When’s the best time to visit for camping season?

@theawakeningpremie 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecosmiclibrary6798 oh wow 🤩 you guys know that Europe is the place to be with regards to camping right, you guys would love it. April until October is good 👍 take care 😘

@drewolm Жыл бұрын

Sold my camper last year and went all tent all the time. Campers give a lot of comfort and carrying capacity but they’re a lot to take care of. It’s so liberating not towing that thing around everywhere, breaking it down, setting it up when you want to move… On another note, build a big ol full-size.

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

Full size just can’t go to some of the places we go. Someday when I’m slowing down a bit I’ll build a full size flat bed setup but for now, I’m keeping it smaller.

@chriskenmotsu9 2 жыл бұрын

@independenceoverland, watching utube I have noticed that the truck&alu-cab khaya setup is a 🔥 hot setup, your fj cruiser and trailer was a great but a little bit too big for where you were going just my observation, but anyway keep doing what your doing brah, will be keeping in tune with your new build 👍🤙👍

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, I appreciate it bud!

@UpintheAir.stream 10 ай бұрын

Nice FJ, especially with the Schelmann seats. I had done a video series about them and installing them. They make a huge difference, they were pricey, but worth it.

@IndependenceOverland 10 ай бұрын

They are such nice seats! It’s too bad there isn’t more support/adapters/kits to put them into all of the newer vehicles.

@UpintheAir.stream 10 ай бұрын

This was a constant concern , when I was doing marketing for Long Range America I forget the company that we used for some of the solutions. Might be mentioned in on of the videos. They make universal kits for specific vehicles. @@IndependenceOverland

@CortJohnson 2 жыл бұрын

I have the feeling that this guy is focused totally on himself…it’s all about me, me, me….

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@VanillaGorilla502 2 жыл бұрын

I’m debating on a similar camper or saving up for an Pecor systems Tacoma build.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

The Pecor flatbeds aren’t incredibly heavy, but the canopy is from what I have been told. Personally though, I would rather have a built Tacoma than the camper. Unless you sit in one campsite for 4-5 days quite often, in which case the Conqueror makes complete sense.

@freedomrider266 Жыл бұрын

I'm well aware of what the UEV 490 weighs, and you're almost guaranteed over weight in the towing with an FJ Cruiser! FJ max is 5000 lbs, and we should NEVER be towing the max!

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

Mine was stripped down and basically didn’t come with what most peoples did. It was 3200 lbs dry.

@ralphkeith2905 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps you've covered this in another video, why the Alu-cab canopy camper? I've decided that's the route I want to go, after a lot of research, I'm debating between the Alu-Cab and the AT Overland Atlas. Each has their pro/con making it a difficult decision.

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

Hey Ralph, I don’t think you would regret either purchase. Part of my decision is how great the Alucab tent has been for me. The Alucab is going to be a step up for dust sealing vs the AT. The Alucab has a lot of aftermarket support which is a big deal to me, as well as it’s just designed to be modified. It has T-slot all over it which I truly appreciate. The AT has better insulation, slightly cheaper last time I checked, and US built. They build very nice equipment as well, Alucab has just really grown on me. The awning integration, take integration, and a propane fireplace just check a lot of boxes. I like to build things that are complicated though haha!

@ralphkeith2905 Жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland thanks. I'm also leaning towards the Alu-Cab for the same reasoning....especially the dust. I do like that you can get the windows in the Alu-Cab now as well. I'm looking forward to your build.

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

@@ralphkeith2905 as soon as I get notice that the truck is being built, I’ll have the canopy camper on order. With todays delays in every industry, it’s hard knowing when that will be. I am very much looking forward to something new to modify.

@stevenkhan4344 2 жыл бұрын

Why not just have a smaller more mobile trailer w RTT? I think having a truck w RTT and tons of camo gear will weigh u down in the trails. My build is a Tacoma on 35s. And a small trailer containing camp gear/RTT. So I can stay Mobil wo having to pack everything up if I want to hit the trails

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

We don’t go camp somewhere so we can do trails. Its more of an exploring thing. Once we are on a trail, we are camping somewhere else 99% of the time. I’m not into base camping personally, but a small trailer works for a lot of people.

@larryrose1379 2 жыл бұрын

Are we thinking like a Tundra with a ALU Cab Canopy camper ? 🤔 We're thinking one for our Tacoma

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Tundra is too big for the majority of trails IMO. Just too much truck for a lot of places. Tacoma is the way I think.

@Legendairy2 2 жыл бұрын

Curious how your FJ pulled that trailer. I have a 2019 Tundra and after skid plates, front bumper and winch, Icon lift with 35s, myself (175lbs) and my wife (135lbs) we have 330lbs before being over GVWR. We have been looking at the Dweller 13 which has a GVWR of 5732 and that puts us grossly overweight.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

You need to be looking at Gross combined weigh rating. It’s different than just GVWR

@Legendairy2 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland doesnt change the fact you still have to look at GVWR as well. Just because you are within GCWR does not mean you are within GVWR as well. Tongue weight adds to GVWR and to be legal you need to be within both GCWR and GVWR as well as under payload and axle limitations.

@roblynch9219 5 ай бұрын

ha, I know that trailer - here on the east coast with its new owner!

@IndependenceOverland 5 ай бұрын

I miss that thing sometimes, and my wife REALLY misses that thing. She absolutely loved it.

@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 2 жыл бұрын

I guess I'm not an odball, I also don't like base camping. I like to keep it moving!

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’m always on the move and I want to see new stuff. If I have 5 days, that’s 5 potential days of new campsites. There are rare occasions I find a spot that’s so incredible I say a little longer, but those are few and far between.

@nocogarden Жыл бұрын

I bought a gladiator and it was the best decision ever.

@juliamichas 2 жыл бұрын

An hour and a half to pack it up? I've watched videos where people do it in 20 minutes.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

With the front bed rain fly out, the shower room setup, and the Bundutec awning, it for sure took us over and hour. If the front bed is open and nothing else, then yes it’s quick and easy but if your using all of the features of the camper it’s not quick at all.

@Hindsight-ep3hf 2 жыл бұрын

Trailers are anchors,,,less is more!

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

I think for certain trips they aren’t too bad. I like the Turtleback and Patriot styles now, where you just need extra gear, food and water. But they usually aren’t needed unless your heading out for a really long time.

@chrisgatlin5832 Жыл бұрын

It’s a great camper but very heavy

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

Mine didn’t have the stereo (even had empty speaker holes) or the factory heater which is heavy. It was super stripped down so it wasn’t too bad. The new ones are 1200lbs more than mine.

@tylerranes9391 2 жыл бұрын

Just buy the new Tacozilla!!!

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Man it looks pretty cool! I can’t imagine it will be much good for wheeling but it sure looks comfy.

@christianmillhollon4481 2 жыл бұрын

Why does any of this matter is the first question that comes to mind

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Because some people that watch my videos like the camper. So I’m explaining why I got rid of it. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@christianmillhollon4481 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland so people actually give a crap about you lol

@christianmillhollon4481 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland I wonder what they lack in their lives that make them watch videos that are literally opinions, they aren't seeking knowledge so it must be the lack of the camper

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

@@christianmillhollon4481 it’s social media man. Don’t tear people down and assume they are lacking in their lives because they have interests in what other people are up to. Everyone’s different.

@christianmillhollon4481 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland how much bull chit cold a bull chitter chit if a bull chitter could chit bull ?

@richardhenry1969 2 жыл бұрын

I think a truck is going to be to small also. You'd do better with a 4x4 van. As a person that's been in the woods or camping most of my life. I never liked trailers because you are limited. I have a chevy van I'm going to do a 4x4 on next summer. I thought about trucks but they are so limited in my unbuilt van I can go anywhere without having to setup even in the rain. Just adding a little hard learned lesson. Everyone for years said you don't need a van you don't want that gas hog. Well yes yes I do. Of course some things need to be experienced.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

The fuel wouldn’t bother me too much, but I don’t want to buy an older vehicle, because I already have an older vehicle. And the new vans are insanely priced and won’t wheel as well as a truck can. They can do a fair bit, but part of selling the camper is because it made me feel limited. A van would make me feel that way too. The only van I would probably consider is the 70 series Landcruiser troop carrier. Someday I would like to restore one. Just waiting on the front coil over models to be old enough to import.

@richardhenry1969 2 жыл бұрын

@@IndependenceOverland i personally felt like you do about vans. But after driving a Chevy Awd converted to 4x4 I totally changed my mind. Chevys are more expensive to convert but they drive great. Ford e350 are very cheap and very easy to convert. Just offing suggestion. I watched your building your more then capable of doing anything. I would suggest go bigger then you first plan. If you know what I mean. I’m still looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

@christurner68 2 жыл бұрын

Because its not the worlds greatest overland trailer!

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty close…

@CortJohnson 2 жыл бұрын

She’s sassing! Good god.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Its a joke.....

@malanalan1 2 жыл бұрын

Relax, it is not the greatest overland trailer.

@IndependenceOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on who you ask I suppose.

@Reaper6207 Жыл бұрын

What was towing that camper like with the FJ?

@IndependenceOverland Жыл бұрын

It actually wasn’t terrible, the regear really helped. I knew I’d be slow up the hills and not winning any races. I went 70mph max to give the drivetrain a break. Offroad it did really well in 4low.