Why I use a DJ mixer for production // PLAYdifferently MODEL1 review and walkthrough

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OoraMusic

OoraMusic

3 жыл бұрын

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This is why the PLAYdifferently Model1 became my secret weapon. All my production is shaped by this amazing instrument.
I will show you how I use it and how it sounds on a Producer standpoint, with no DJ experience.
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- Playdifferently Model1
- Benidub Digital Echo
- Eventide Space
- Elektron Octatrack
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@NineHellHeaven
@NineHellHeaven 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting by my window waiting for mine to arrive. My Christmas present to myself. So excited.
@Kamasutralovers
@Kamasutralovers 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve been using the Model1 in our studio and for our lives since it came out, and I have to say your video is the best one I’ve seen. It’s always cool to listen to other artists talk about how they use gear and you did a great video. Never thought about bringing back the returns on a channel will have to try it out!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@MrFullyCharged
@MrFullyCharged Жыл бұрын
I absolutely prefer using two channels for the returns. Gives much more control, eq capability is much better, and being able to grab both sends and DROP them out instantly with the faders, as the track drops/builds... it's very useful.
@hamzage
@hamzage 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really great video that shows some of the strengths of this piece of gear. I use my Xone DB4 in a similar way when producing and when DJing. Keep it up!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@supernatural802
@supernatural802 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this video together. it was exactly what i was looking for in terms of using this mixer in this way.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@KaosEngineering
@KaosEngineering Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who does things the right way ! ... I really appreciate the fact that you shared your experience with us. Thank you very much.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!!
@andymadero832
@andymadero832 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing way in using the Model 1. I am sold. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@theway3058
@theway3058 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks a lot for going into detail on this mixer. And your right about wanting direct out. My vintage Neves consoles and the ssl I had all had direct outs. I’m looking for a creative way to record and this might be what I need.
@ZenShaman
@ZenShaman Жыл бұрын
so, i picked up a behringer DDM 4000 at a very good price, along with an Alesis S 12 channel mixer, and thought to myself, im going to connect them both and use them in my production, and wondered if anyone else had thought of this idea. so i popped that question into youtube, and voila, here you popped up, along with several others, using a DJ mixer in production, and boy was i shocked. what im loving about my accidental discovery , is that ive got so many more options than i realized, ive got direct outputs on both mixers, along with midi on the behringer, a multitude of fx on the behringer, and im also using native instruments komplete audio 6 which gives me even more options using sends and returns in even more creative ways. Im just now hooking it all up, and will be experimenting to see just what all is possible, so i wanted to thank you for posting this video, its extremely enlightening, and once ive got my rig setup and working ill do a video, so you and some others that are curious about the possibilities can see the potential im just now realizing, thanks to you!
@cheeyse9857
@cheeyse9857 3 жыл бұрын
This is great mate ! Please do a video for the analog rytm next - would love to see how you use that in your setup. 🙏🏻
@cheeyse9857
@cheeyse9857 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Legend! Thank you!
@wileysupergenius
@wileysupergenius 2 ай бұрын
Mine arrived today! Already it's integrating so nicely. My optimization is a DB-25 patch bay to Eurorack 1/8" IN/OUT. I love how you expressed that you trust your instincts during the performance and try to avoid having the long post-production. Fully agree with this sentiment.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 ай бұрын
still my favorite mixer!
@rfinz
@rfinz 3 жыл бұрын
love this! have similar preferences re: recording a live performance vs tracking in and mixing later.
@n7ctu
@n7ctu 3 жыл бұрын
Love the trick with the aux to separate channel...have struggled with getting analog effects to stand out with this mixer and that can give the additional control needed.
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies 10 күн бұрын
Nice review 👍 having just added an 8 channel console to my setup, once I’ve adapted to that I can potentially see a model 1.4 in my future 😃
@jimivandebeek
@jimivandebeek 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful mixer! I like the idea of using a dj mixer because its designed to performance.
@benwallace560
@benwallace560 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, exactly the video I was hoping to see! Ah man, I wish direct outs were at least an option but you make really good points about cutting down mixing time! sounds super nice.
@bader3879
@bader3879 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Please make more videos on model 1
@spacedrifter1961
@spacedrifter1961 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent explaination of a beautiful piece of hardware ✨☺️.
@SimonRedfernLondonBerlin
@SimonRedfernLondonBerlin 3 жыл бұрын
Nice music and description. Much appreciated!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@fotomaton7852
@fotomaton7852 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, this is is exactly the way I've forseen to use this mixer for my studio! One big feature you didn't touch upon are the two D-sub INs & OUTs that allow up to 16-channel analog ins & 8-channel analog outs via D-sub connectors. This means the Model1 can double as an amazing summing mixer for your DAW (especially if you have D-sub I/Os such as Antelope Orion)!
@jovantrendmaker4722
@jovantrendmaker4722 2 жыл бұрын
Damn didnt know that so you have 4 or stereo tracks that you can record in to your daw?
@Digalog
@Digalog 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovantrendmaker4722 Or use your daw + hw to send to model1 input do the summing and record the result the summing back to your interface input
@Digalog
@Digalog 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovantrendmaker4722 6 + 2 x return channels
@thorstenweimar1190
@thorstenweimar1190 2 жыл бұрын
@Fotomaton Model 1 has 8 fixed stereo channels. That's 6 main stereos and two returns. These cannot be split into mono inputs to create 16 mono inputs. Nor can any of these channels manage mono signals.
@Judasz696
@Judasz696 10 ай бұрын
@@thorstenweimar1190 still you you have 6 stereo channels + 2 returns back into your fx pedals and then to your daw for recording. There are no analog mixer like it (d subs connectors wich are a type of a direct out and direct in as I understood?)
@meilstone
@meilstone 11 ай бұрын
I'm also using the method "shape the sound first" then mix less -> run all the synths and samplers into a little analog mixer, the stereo mix into a Finalizer and via ADAT to my audio-interface and from there via USB into my phone :)
@joebrewer4529
@joebrewer4529 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best accident that ever happened to me it was buying the Denon 1850. I'm surprised someone doesn't take this form factor and make more of a studio mixer with digital IO and quarter inch XLR RCA inputs it would be brilliant.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes that would be a great idea!
@nikarga
@nikarga 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video. I just received mine and my only gripe is that a) no individual outs as u mention b) no mono source for a mono synth which means you need to sacrifice a stereo channel. c) DB25 connector can be a bit of a pain until you find a suitable cable that stays on properly.... other than that, absolutely love the sound... by and large my favourite sounding mixer
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you. Bu most of my synth goes into a stereo fx unit (delay or reverb) so in the end im fine.Definitely was thought for DJs so one need to know that before buying.
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
Re the DB25: when you buy a DB25 cable, it normally comes with 2 pairs if screws with different threads. In my case (Cordial multicore), the "spare" pair of screws was the one that fit perfectly...
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway Жыл бұрын
It has tons of coolness factor but other than the great filters, not really advantageous over normal mixers it seems. No inserts (which can be used for isolated outs and limited aux send returns/ no xlr inputs/ no mono channels/ no L/R fader separation/ no built in fx. So this Is a big bill for manly filter eq, aesthetic, tiny bit of saturation I feel like.
@Matthew-px9nu
@Matthew-px9nu 3 жыл бұрын
They have a 4 channel one now too !
@michaels8088
@michaels8088 Жыл бұрын
definitely makes sense..I use a DJ mixer and Mackie when i spin..I have another mixing board for live/sound design/production
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
Word!
@noteethmotif
@noteethmotif 3 жыл бұрын
Great content my friend. Saving up my pennies for this thing.
@tomcerrox6198
@tomcerrox6198 2 жыл бұрын
Instrument is the perfect word for this 🖖🏻
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@jovantrendmaker4722
@jovantrendmaker4722 2 жыл бұрын
I use my xone 4d like that with my mpc 2000xl. Mpc has 8 mono outs so 4 stereo that i connect to my xone 4d and i can record 4 channels straight in to ableton. So much fun
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yep sounds like it!
@herocity1165
@herocity1165 3 жыл бұрын
I have one and I absolutely love it when I use it for because I do a lot of hip-hop and big beat production I use it to zero in on sounds the EQ is great for this I can get as close as possible the frequency of a sound I actually want a sample before I even start to chop my samples man I run it through izotope then clean up my samples in the Box
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
seems like a great workflow!
@h-dawg969
@h-dawg969 11 ай бұрын
That’s really interesting about the camera feed. So if I get an rca to mini jack, going from a main output on my interface to mini jack mic input it will record the audio alongside the video? As I’ve been filming in the room, and recording in Logic, then muting the cameras in room sound and syncing it with the audio and footage in Final Cut. So can I just get an rca to camera mic input and all will be good?
@bikesbeersbeats
@bikesbeersbeats 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview, you're using the mixer as intended. There is no crossfader so its not really a great mixer for standard DJs but better suited to live performers using a mix of hardware/software. Funny enough you already have a crossfader with the octatrack which is a million times more fun ;-p
@djdeejdjay8669
@djdeejdjay8669 2 жыл бұрын
Eh? Rotary mixers which have been around since time began also don't have cross faders....kinda blows your theory out of the window...lol..but in all seriousness he is using it like s mixing desk which is a very different way of doing things as he isn't doing DJ sets with it...this mixer is intended for DJing initially and not music production.
@spiegelkind2387
@spiegelkind2387 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdeejdjay8669 A mixer is a mixer. This one is intended for hybrid sets and experiments, I don’t think it’s particularly innovative for regular two track DJ sets.
@djdeejdjay8669
@djdeejdjay8669 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiegelkind2387 Eh? I don't think you know what you're talking about fella. It's not a 2 channel mixer either.
@spiegelkind2387
@spiegelkind2387 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdeejdjay8669 Lol reading comprehension much? I'm saying the Model 1 might be an overkill for two track DJing.
@djdeejdjay8669
@djdeejdjay8669 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiegelkind2387 not really...it gives you the flexibility to run fx units etc....most people mix more than 2 decks nowadays as well....either way it's not up to us to say to people that you're wasting that mixer by mixing 2 tracks....
@MrFullyCharged
@MrFullyCharged Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for this. I ran an Ableton project through my model1 via 5 stem layers, performed live, resampled into DAW via the 1/8" record jack on the top of the mixer. My question is, how have you worked through any audio spikes when resampling the performance? I had a couple of loud moments, likely when sending too much audio to my reverb pedal OR to my Zen Delay... and as such, the final print sounds great - but overall is about 5db lower than otherwise would be in DAW... Any suggestions would be MUCH appreciated! I mean, other than "watch the knobs and levels, bro" :)
@Judasz696
@Judasz696 Жыл бұрын
You can connect it to audio interface with dsub to jack cables and record all channels and sends at once.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
definitely!
@Sjaard
@Sjaard Жыл бұрын
Best video to get to know all the sides of the mixer. I have a question. Is it normal that when the resonance of the master filter is turned up and I switch on the filter button of a channel, the bass of that channel is boosted? Best Henry
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
It doesn't happen to me... better contact them to ask!
@citizenoftheverse4653
@citizenoftheverse4653 5 ай бұрын
I'm currently looking forward to get a new mixer for my setup and I'm really seduced by your demonstration. That really now makes sense to me to use a DJ mixer or at least consider using one... I do also agree about the Daw thing that's in some way counter productive and way less spontaneous and less creative than just actualy playing music realtime ;-)
@1975neilmcm
@1975neilmcm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks never thought to use the main channels for the fx send going to try this out , how do connect the cue b up as a third fx send .
@NineHellHeaven
@NineHellHeaven 3 жыл бұрын
Cable from headphone out to effects. Cue button controls which channel(s) is/are sent to the effect and the headphone volume controls the send amount. Cable from effect back to one of the channels. Volume knob/fader controls return amount.
@Kindclap
@Kindclap 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao Federico e complimenti per il canale, uno dei più interessanti che abbia incontrato. Mixer stupendo, davvero, ma ad oggi per me abbastanza irraggiungibile, sia come costo che come effettiva disponibilità sul mercato. Esistono delle valide alternative ad esso? Meglio puntare su un Dj mixer o ci sono mixer live che possono essere validi comunque?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao! io avevo l'SSL six, e credo prenderò ssl BiG SiX. dai un'occhiata, suonano da dio
@LiamKillen
@LiamKillen Жыл бұрын
Oh you got the model one! 😮
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
ahah yes, ages ago, one of my first BIG purchases
@Gabay54
@Gabay54 11 ай бұрын
I believe you mentioned the SSL Big Six was on your radar when you were looking at adding a new mixer to your workflow. Since seeing your videos on the PLAYdifferently Model 1 it seems to be a great fit for a studio with keyboard/synth type recording which is what I have now. When weighing the BIg Six and Model 1 was there anything in particular that tipped the scales toward the Model 1? I have always felt a little hesitant on the Big Six, not sure why. BTW: I am looking at the Model 1.4 instead of Model 1. Thanks.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 10 ай бұрын
I like both of them . If I had to chose I would probably go ssl big six for the studio oriented musicians and model1 for live performances ones.
@Gruftgrabbler
@Gruftgrabbler 3 жыл бұрын
I think a DJ mixer for synths is amazing. Im planing to get xone 96 for this case. For me its a big bonus that its also an usb interface, so I can record ever channel separately. But I dont like a single thing on the xone 96. I dont use a crossfader so the space which is used for it could be better a distortion circuit like on the model 1. A Xone 96 without crossfader with additional distortion would be my absolut dream mixer
@aaronw4537
@aaronw4537 3 жыл бұрын
Why not remove the crossfader from the 96?
@djdeejdjay8669
@djdeejdjay8669 2 жыл бұрын
The 96 is a pile of crap! I brought one and returned it straight away...the left and right signal on each channel is balanced or matched...! I can send you a video link of this....
@TimH123
@TimH123 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdeejdjay8669 please can you explain?
@djdeejdjay8669
@djdeejdjay8669 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimH123 explain why mate?
@TimH123
@TimH123 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m interested in your comment because I’m thinking of buying one of these, but I don’t actually understand the technical issue you are talking about, so an explanation would be helpful.
@mikedubz5576
@mikedubz5576 3 ай бұрын
How can you work with that fader curve on the faders? It does not bother you how aggressive it is?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 ай бұрын
I guess I got used to it!
@tendingtropic7778
@tendingtropic7778 3 жыл бұрын
Nice man! You inspired me and I also recently bought the Model 1 mixer, beautiful sound. I have a few minor 'issues' I noticed. 1) in a dark environment, I can see the white prefader&line/dsub buttons at the top stil be a bit lit (and asymmetrical, one more than the other) when they are 'off'. Do you have this too? 2) I can hear a hum/buzz through cue A (when set to 100% mix) on my headphone, when the level (volume) is set at >70%, and 3) when I use the 'master filter on' button as a performance tool, so playing with the master filter and then quickly switching it off by hitting the 'master filter on' button, I do hear a (minor) click sometimes. Isnt this supposed to be silent (zero crossing technology)? Would be great if you could find the time to check with your unit and let me know if you also experience this 3 things. Its not a very big deal, but just wanna make sure my unit is not faulty, its 3k so now is the time to make sure (still under warranty).
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
So i dont hear any click engaging the filter, not really any hum or buzz, maybe some hiss on the headphones but only at volumes that will blew my head off. the dsub light happen to me too, never really cared too much. Contact them and see what they say, you need to be 100%happy!
@tendingtropic7778
@tendingtropic7778 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic thank you, I don't mind the lights/led asymmetry that much, but the clicks might be a problem, so your information is useful! I will contact them, thanks again.
@jovantrendmaker4722
@jovantrendmaker4722 2 жыл бұрын
@@tendingtropic7778 clicks also happen on xone mixers. Wasnt playONE made by A&H?
@ActualKaktus
@ActualKaktus 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. What audio interface are you using with it?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Apollo 8!
@stuartbond3321
@stuartbond3321 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I'm seriously considering the Model 1.4 for a similar use case. However I'd like to know more about the fader curves as they seem to only work in the top 40-50%... Are they useable for a mix? Can they be adjusted or even replaced?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that. They work really nice for me, but I mostly use them at unity ( on top)
@Matthew-px9nu
@Matthew-px9nu 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are crushing it ! How do you fit the Otto Boum into this ?
@thisismyengine
@thisismyengine 3 жыл бұрын
yep - interested in this too... doesn't have a master insert like the X96
@tendingtropic7778
@tendingtropic7778 3 жыл бұрын
you can see it in another vid. he feeds the octatrack through it
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
always after Octatrack!
@Judasz696
@Judasz696 10 ай бұрын
Apart from eq, filters,fx and distorion does analog mixer dicrete circulity add any benefits to the signal flow? Bigger headroom then mixing in one box (daw)?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 10 ай бұрын
I would say you are fine in the box nowadays. Hardware mostly give you a different workflow and could sound great, but you can use lot of cool software to get great sounds too!
@thorstenweimar1190
@thorstenweimar1190 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, what kind of drum machine are you using for the track in the background? It sounds like some kind of Roland machine? And where does the pad come from? Thanks
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the drum was made with a Roland tr8, the pad was made with a novation peaks.
@thorstenweimar1190
@thorstenweimar1190 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you think it is possible to use it for a summing mixer for acoustic guitar, voices, keyboards etc? That means not a fully electronic project? The analog circuit seems to be very promising and you can integrate outboard gear. I don’t wanna record through it, that is not possible, but to benefit from the EQ’s, Filters and add subtle harmonics would be great. Thanks for your channels, great content and I really like your music! Thorsten
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Thorsten this mixer sounds really great, so it would be a terrific summing box, especially using the drive circuit. You can't go wrong!
@thorstenweimar1190
@thorstenweimar1190 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Thanks a lot! I will give it a try and also I like some of the Styrmon/Eventide pedals…I might integrate those too. Seems to be a lot of fun to use! Greetings from California
@peterbakker9531
@peterbakker9531 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do I understand correctly that you link return 1 into channel 5 and return 2 into channel 6 (cable jacket to tulip!)?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
yes!
@rudi6996
@rudi6996 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Oora, thank for the very informativ video, I like all of your videos! My question, how do you connect you OT or synth with the model1? Model1 has cinch imputs (mono) and on the other side you us 1/4" TR jacks? you never had background noises during your session? Thanks again.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I use a rca to trs cable, never had a problem
@effext1
@effext1 3 жыл бұрын
It also has DB25 connections for all the inputs and outputs that are balanced. This mixer was designed to integrate dj gear with production gear.
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend using the Dsub ins for synths, eg with a Cordial DSub breakout cable. This provides balanced inputs.
@themisterno
@themisterno 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing here, with same mixer, for same reasons! :)))
@ZenMountain
@ZenMountain Жыл бұрын
Federico, did you ever had issues with your Model 1, where it didn't engage the Master Filter or Master EQ after pressing the switches or it failed to disengage them after turning them off, or just weird behavior with Master Filter and EQ? I think mine has an issue, but I'm not sure if it's faulty or this is how these mixers normally behave when they have low level signals maybe due to the Zero crossing circuit. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
I had a similar issue once, and I had to send back to service. We found out it was related to hot plugging the model 1. So always turn on and off it from the back!
@turfoid7899
@turfoid7899 2 жыл бұрын
Damn now i cant decide. I mqke a lot of dub techno. And this looks so nice!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
lot fo cool stuff in the market I know!
@nagchumpalot
@nagchumpalot Жыл бұрын
Any tips on good TS to RCA cables to use for this? wouldn't Sub give better sound quality because its balanced? what do you use if I may ask?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
So far I used really basic cables from amazon, will get sub sooner or later!
@909Mark
@909Mark 3 жыл бұрын
Mixing will be very smooth
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it will :)
@kostantinosmag2986
@kostantinosmag2986 3 жыл бұрын
MODEL 1 Is the BEST... nice video ...💯🎶
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ✌️
@ananim7542
@ananim7542 2 жыл бұрын
have you figured out any trick to address panning with this mixer?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
nope :/
@detroitologist
@detroitologist 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is first and foremost a dj and not a producer other than for the love of the sound of synthesizers and drum machines, I'm wishing for a dj mixer with more channels to use for gear as well as dj'ing. I don't have the justification of $$$ for a separate mixing console yet. I don't like the Allen + Heath filters, resonance is too harsh and has that tiny pop. The Model 1 has zero crossing detection circuit and filters sound very pleasing. This mixer is really well designed by Ritchie but the omission of a crossfader doesn't work for me personally. Damnit! I use both line level faders and crossfader to mix. I understand this is based off mixing from Ableton where the hardware matches the software. I installed an Innofader the past weekend and it was a revelation to say the least. It puts even stuff like the Eternal faders to shame. I'll be happy for a long time. Still lusting for the perfect mixer.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you! I am like you struggling to find the FINAL mixer. Model one with direct outs would have be the one for me I think!
@jj0b
@jj0b Жыл бұрын
Umm, how has no one else asked about what on earth is going on with that Octatrack?! Lol. The layout is totally different with the cross fader on the left and the trigger buttons arranged in two rows, and the biggest difference, pitch and mod wheels!!! It certainly looks like an Elektron box, and you say it is, but it looks nothing like anything I have ever seen offered from Elektron. Where did you find this? Thanks and happy to have found your channel!
@dazisk5355
@dazisk5355 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, that's pretty cool but 3 300 USD !!!??? O_O Where can I find second-hand for a better price ?! and if not, what kind of replacement you suggest for better price ? tnx
@jovantrendmaker4722
@jovantrendmaker4722 2 жыл бұрын
Xone 96
@bikesbeersbeats
@bikesbeersbeats 3 жыл бұрын
Just received a Model 1 do perform in a similar way to you. Do you have an issue with the Model 1 Master Filter not switching on/off reliably if the volume sliders are below -6? It seems to be random on each channel that if the slider isnt above -6 or -12 then it wont switch the master eq for that channel on/off or there is a slight delay. A&H already confirmed the mixer is defective and sent a replacement but it has exactly the same problem.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I dont have that issue but will test it later!
@bikesbeersbeats
@bikesbeersbeats 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic here is the problem across 3 channels. Seems to be volume/trim related. kzfaq.info/sun/PLGUAamOxeIkmUctwMdEsg2wb4gSy77Cww
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
This is an often mentioned design issue. On my Model 1, I need to have at least -6 dB on a channel to make the master filter switch on or off.
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikesbeersbeats I have the same issue - it is regularly reported and apparently due to the analog design of the zero-crossing detection.
@turfoid7899
@turfoid7899 2 жыл бұрын
I nearly bought one. But i boughta xone 96. Only because its for deejaying, but i still may return in and get a model 1. I produce more than deejay and 4 channels is limiting.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
the 96 is great!
@ripsniff9742
@ripsniff9742 4 ай бұрын
For someone used both. Is the sound similar to xone 92?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 4 ай бұрын
I never tried the one sadly, but I think they might be in the same league
@ripsniff9742
@ripsniff9742 3 ай бұрын
@OoraMusic I got a xone62 really cheap from ebay. No soundcard on it but I have that.
3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea to use the mixer as an instrument rather than a 'middle-hardware' only. Can a cheaper 'DJ' alternative like Traktor S4 could do the job, with some additional live 'samples' integration and manipulation? Just thinking about how an hybrid and affordable setup could look like?
@Gruftgrabbler
@Gruftgrabbler 3 жыл бұрын
yes you can use the s4 but you don't have any hardware sends with it and of cause you need your computer connected
3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruftgrabbler you mean send and return (from effects)?
@Gruftgrabbler
@Gruftgrabbler 3 жыл бұрын
@ no general. of cause you have while using traktor or whatever dj software you use. But for example you can not send the audio to any hardware effect unit outside of the s4. if this is not an issue you can could try it. but I would try to borrow it from someone before buying
@MrFullyCharged
@MrFullyCharged Жыл бұрын
You can print four stem layers from your DAW and import them into the S4, and then "mix" the four stem layers as four DECKS on the unit, using the Traktor effects inside - and record that entire output as your newly bounced track. HOWEVER the pieces you will be missing - external effects and the analog sound of the filters/distortion. You can absolutely live without those things and use the S4. A very famous global producer/dj actually (secretly) does this exact thing to make his tracks come alive. He "mixes" the stems on his Traktor rig, saves the audio, then sends to his mastering plugs. It can be done. Think outside of the box!
@MrFullyCharged
@MrFullyCharged Жыл бұрын
@@Gruftgrabbler The best you could do- run the audio output of the s4 to an effects processor - OR run a cable from the headphone out, to an external effects unit. Use it as a send. To return this/record this, just run the resultant audio from the effects unit into your audio interface and record in your DAW.
@djilk-housetechno
@djilk-housetechno 3 жыл бұрын
it is my main mixer. love the quality and sound. but there are some flaws. there is headphone cue crosstalk issue. led brightness are not even. tried 3 units and they are had the same issue. those are things you just have to live with it if you choose this mixer.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
noticed the crosstalk, but definitely not an issue for me.
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, also just had the DSub out card failing on a 2yr old mixer... I guess all electronic components can fail - but still a 300 EUR repair. A&H guarantee does only cover the original buyer, and I bought mine 2nd hand... Still - just got mine back, and it sounds so much better than anything else!!
@gweisolos
@gweisolos 3 жыл бұрын
I've never used db25 cables before, but my understanding is that would give you the direct outputs?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
nope, that would have been glorious
@gweisolos
@gweisolos 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic oh well, that's is a shame. I'm now confused as to what the d-sub outs are for!
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
@@gweisolos The 2 DSub ins allow you to send all 6 stereo inputs + stereo returns on balanced connections, and the DSub out gives you the main mix, both aux busses, as well as cue b in balanced stereo outs.
@gweisolos
@gweisolos 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clemens38000 thanks, appreciate the explanation
@chriskitedude565
@chriskitedude565 3 жыл бұрын
prefer the 96 over the mod1. love the integrated souncard of the 96 and the usb/11-12 to record to my optical DAC. a&h do a refitted model 1 with soundcard.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that this is a full analog mixer , so the digital part doesn;t get obsolete, but the 96 is a beast!
@thisismyengine
@thisismyengine 3 жыл бұрын
do a&h actually do a retrofit M1?
@jovantrendmaker4722
@jovantrendmaker4722 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt A&H make first modelONE units and guy who designer 92 was one the project?
@Clemens38000
@Clemens38000 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovantrendmaker4722 It is the A&H Xone designer (A. Rigby) who developed the Model 1, and it is built (and repaired) by A&H.
@lokologico
@lokologico Жыл бұрын
I love this mixer, but the price! DJ mixers are a bit over the top I think, considering studio mixers with as much feature sets if not more cost less. Panasonic tax?
@willemvanwanrooij
@willemvanwanrooij 10 ай бұрын
Hi, would you still recommend a dj mixer for a small setup with synths and effects?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 10 ай бұрын
ssl six is amazing
@masonjahncke7844
@masonjahncke7844 9 ай бұрын
​@@OoraMusicwould you recommend the SSL big six over the model one? I already own an amazing RME audio interface, so I'm personally thinking the model one just to run all my gear through it's analog filter/eq straight to my daw
@willemvanwanrooij
@willemvanwanrooij 18 күн бұрын
@@masonjahncke7844 Hi, what did you choose finaly? The Model1 or the BigSix? I think i'll go for the Model1.
@musicbyaitken
@musicbyaitken 2 жыл бұрын
How do you Connect the synths? Vía the rca ins?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes!
@musicbyaitken
@musicbyaitken 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic awesome thanks? Always been a little doubtful about rca connectors, specially about sound quality. Never had any issues with them? Do you use those fancy balanced connectors of the first two channels? Why so much asking about that: I’m deciding between model 1 and xone96. The price is not the point but I’m thinking a hybrid ableton synth player rig. Thanks!
@turfoid7899
@turfoid7899 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wromg with using it as a producer mixer . Its not what you use its how you use it. It actually makes perfect sense to use a dj mixer, they are often built well, and somehave great effects and filters, the model 1 is no exception. I would say another mixer that would be good is allan & Heathe especially given they have nice 4 band eq. And great filters! , and even the new expensive pioneer might do a good job. Theres so many and, Its crazy to me that as producers we dont often use dj mixers. I get that the lack of channels can be a thing, but, some dj mixers have a lot of channels. But, if you can afford 2 high end mixers, why not try that? Lol that would be awesome. I deejayed for 20 years, and not many producers used dj mixers. But more should and I think will. Keep it up 👍🏻
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
agree with all that you said!!
@MrFullyCharged
@MrFullyCharged Жыл бұрын
Aside from the analog richness that is missing... the V10 is actually SUPERB for this.
@thomassynths
@thomassynths 3 жыл бұрын
Hardware ❤️
@tatsuhirosato8646
@tatsuhirosato8646 3 жыл бұрын
The trick is to have $3500 for a friggin mixer
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
easier than 20k. for a car
@bryankass
@bryankass Жыл бұрын
When CDJs cost 3 grand seems par for the pro course
@burger659
@burger659 Жыл бұрын
But can’t you multitrack with the d-sub outs ?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
sadly no
@burger659
@burger659 Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic this is really too bad! In 2022 this should be possible! Midas consoles did this.. even with a Roland tr8, you can multitrack via usb… But i heard with the xone 96 it’s possible… so maybe this is the ultimate mixer ?
@avefuqua
@avefuqua 4 ай бұрын
Good Mindset. Recording all at once 🤔.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 4 ай бұрын
always my favorite workflow
@lifetakesflight
@lifetakesflight Жыл бұрын
10:00 - effects to separate channel
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
:)
@Jean-LouisMayans
@Jean-LouisMayans 3 жыл бұрын
Why not xone 96?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
just really like the model1. im sure the 96 is amazing
@tendingtropic7778
@tendingtropic7778 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic your opinion is valuable; did you consider xone 96? what is the main reason you like the model 1 over the xone? don't you miss the 4 band eq per channel?
@gregcabrera6461
@gregcabrera6461 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Model 1 because of this video. I love you, but also shame on you.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
ahahaha sorry mate!
@zbsfm
@zbsfm 3 жыл бұрын
Nice mixer, good idea, but wow the PRICE...
@zbsfm
@zbsfm 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Seriously. It costs more than my entire modular system and mixer!
@LittleAmbientMachine
@LittleAmbientMachine 3 жыл бұрын
@@zbsfm it’s a full analog mixer and the best on the market. I would love to get one some day. I might just sell my eurorack for it 😂😂
@zbsfm
@zbsfm 3 жыл бұрын
@@LittleAmbientMachine My mixer is 16 channels and all analog and it cost 200 dollars... but i know what you mean.
@zbsfm
@zbsfm 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic So very tue - just realized I was probably coming off pretty rude / confrontational - that was not my intention. Really enjoyed the video, thanks for showing off this unusual piece of kit
@hardsync7873
@hardsync7873 3 жыл бұрын
Useful toy
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@VoidAbstract
@VoidAbstract 5 ай бұрын
Model 1 is pretty much a recording console
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 5 ай бұрын
agreed
@ANDYROBINSONFOLK
@ANDYROBINSONFOLK Ай бұрын
Just a thought and I may be wrong but is it a good idea to have your tape machine sitting on a guitar combo? i would be very wary of having tape and those sensitive heads so close to the very large transformers and huge magnets in the amplifier. eddy currents from transformers radiate over a large area around them.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Ай бұрын
that was long time ago, moved it away :)
@juliencarlier5872
@juliencarlier5872 3 жыл бұрын
Hesitate between this model one and ssl six...
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 3 жыл бұрын
both amazing. I had both and cant recommend both enough.
@juliencarlier5872
@juliencarlier5872 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic thanks for your answer but could you be a little bit more selective ? In a way of purity and quality of sound
@juliencarlier5872
@juliencarlier5872 3 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic maybe a pros and cons will be helpful for me
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies 10 күн бұрын
Well it’s cheaper than buying 12 moogerfooger filters 😂
@sunnykataria23
@sunnykataria23 2 жыл бұрын
hello sir , lovely video , will you teach me a few things on video call , im 90. % there , need last 10 % help .
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! I have a subscription on Patreon that includes 1on1 call, see if that can works!
@sunnykataria23
@sunnykataria23 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic hello , how can i contact you sir , i didnt understand what is Patreon , i would love to learn from you 1 on 1 call .
@PandaPotPies
@PandaPotPies 9 ай бұрын
holy shit why is this so much????
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