Why I use the Canon xf605 for Filmmaking?

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Why I use the Canon xf605 for Filmmaking?

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2 ай бұрын

Why do I sometimes turn to a camcorder like the Canon xf605 for filmmaking? A few of the main reasons is the quick run and gun of an all in one camera verses carrying a bulky cinema camera. The long reach of the built in lens...and that reach allows you to get close to wildlife or situations where keeping a safe distance is important.
The built in ND filters, XLR, SDI has made the Canon xf605 an excellent camera to add to my professional film productions. I almost always have it with me. When taking off the lens hood, it is easy to have it and a couple batteries in a backpack or as a carry on when traveling.
I certainly wish the lens was faster when in telephoto, but F4.5 really isn't bad. A larger sensor would also be nice. I also find that I can fairly easily color match to other cameras when I film in cLOG 3. With so many built in features and advantages...plus a price point of $4,299, I find it a good investment.
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@WunKoolKat 16 күн бұрын

Beautiful footage! The zoom rocker makes it excellent for sports as well. So smooth with complete customization of that rocker speed in the settings.

@savillecreations8046 16 күн бұрын

@@WunKoolKat ya the rocker is excellent. On some documentaries I’ll pull out the 605 just to do a long zoom in or zoom out of the host or subject.

@WunKoolKat 16 күн бұрын

@@savillecreations8046 I got it for sports. Football and track in days that were the hottest even all day in El Paso at the Conference USA Championships the internal fan kept it cool and it never overheated.

@brmoogma Ай бұрын

...agree 100%

@savillecreations8046 Ай бұрын

@@brmoogma and the more I use it the more I like it. Came in clutch on a two week documentary I was just on in 6 states and Canada. Had many times where I literally had to jump out of the car to get a shot. The 605 was the go to camera for that.

@samueldickes 2 ай бұрын

I also use my Sony full-frame camera with a pletoria of great lenses, filters, cage, XLR add-on, but often I just fall back to my Canon XF605. The 605 is just such a versatile beast, all in one box, easy to handle and unbeatable fast. It’s just such a joy to work with it. And so I won’t participate in the debate of full-frame or camcorders. Each one has its advantages and disadvantages in different situations. For me it’s both of them, and I wouldn’t want to miss any of the two. But for me, a modern top notch camcorder, like the XF605, is one of the most underrated pieces of gear, mostly under the radar of all the full-frame generation.

@savillecreations8046 2 ай бұрын

Hey Samuel. Exactly. And as far as the debate, I don't understand it. I am fortunate to film some very high profile productions all over the country/world and yes...the cinema cameras capture amazing footage. Worked on a commercial shoot all day yesterday on the DJI Ronin 4d 8k. The prime lenses and that camera captured incredible scenes. Didn't pull out the 605 once. But the day before, I was suddenly in a situation where a surprise birthday party happened. The 605 knocked it out of the park for that situation.

@bp-blackshark Ай бұрын

A lot of "cinematographers" are comparing the XF605 with cinema cameras, but in reality, it`s part of the XA camcorder and PTZ camera family. This is probably, why it only has a lens with a small diameter. All of those lenses for the XF, XA and PTZ cameras might be made on the same production line. One top Canon 1" PTZ camera seems to have the same lens and the same electronic parts as the XF605...the CR-N700. Also, if you would "strip" the XF605 down, if you would "put away" all additional accessories (lens, XLR extension, etc,), a FX30/FX3/R5C would need, to have the same functionality like on the XF605, the basic camera part of the XF605 would only be a "camera" about 1.200$. So realisticly, peoples are comparing 3 - 5.000$ APS-C/full frame cameras with a 1.200$ 1" sensor camera. And then, they have to put on a lot of additional accessories, even to be able to "keep up" with the complete XF605. The XF605 seems only to have two weaknesses: a bad low light capability, and a visible rolling shutter. If you use indoors a good lighting setup, and don´t use excessive whip-pan´s, it´s a fantastic "all in one" camera-package for it´s price. For my XF605 i bought an additional NANO-C98 98wh, 14,8v, 6600mah Battery with PowerTap and USB, so i could run an external monitor and the XF605 just with one battery. The only "rig" part is the monitor holder, two cables to the monitor, the external monitor with a sunshade, a shotgun XLR microphone and a wireless XLR microphone system. The XF605 is a perfect camera for weekend warriors...you don`t have to remember a lot of functions, because of the dedicated buttons. You just press the button with the name on it. You don´t have to search trough a touchscreen menu, like on my Canon HF G50, which was my first attempt, to enter the video world. I also could have a C70 for that money, but the additional stuff, i would need, to get the same functionality like on the XF605, would blow up my budget. Now, we have a C400 knocking on the door, and it´s hard to resist. With a C400, i would go nuts with the additional stuff, i could put on... The XF605 is the "restriction" i need, lol!

@savillecreations8046 Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment.

@TheFandangovideoguy 2 ай бұрын

I have a couple of older Canon HD cameras. The XF300 line. Very reliable...getting old. I thought about upgrading to this XF605 but I was "seduced" by mirrorless cameras...I have been using Sony FX30 cameras with nice lenses for a bit. Good quality but sometimes a camcorder is the way to go...for live events etc. Some of the reviews for the XF605 were not favourable. Some users reported "too much noise" on the video-and poor low light video quality, but compared to what? full frame? well...a 1" sensor can't compete with cropped or full frame, but for some live events a camcorder with lots of external buttons and connections (HDMI and HD-SDI for sure) is the way to go..but I find the camcorder very expensive.I could buy 2 FX30 for that price in Canada. Your footage looks great! Do you notice a HUGE drop in quality when comparing the video quality from the XF605 against the FX6 (I have use the FX6 and is great camera but not a camcorder).what profile did you use? did you colour grade it a lot? That pond looks like a dream! Thanks

@savillecreations8046 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. No doubt the xf605 has its limitations...when compared to full-frame and prime lenses. But the same is true when those cameras are compared to the 605. For me it has its place and that place is run and gun, events, long lens etc...just like you said. I don't see that I will use it day to day but for documentaries, when I need a long lens with a servo, nature etc, I think it is going to be great. But the vast majority of my productions fall more in line with filmmaking. I primarily use the Ronin 4d 8k, Sony and a Canon R5c...which also gives me 45 megapixel stills when I need pics. There will be times when the 605 will contribute some footage. Yes I did color enhance most of the clips. On my high resolution screens I can easily tell the difference between the 4k and 1080 footage from the 605. It was recorded in MP4 (HEVC 10 bit)REC709.I have to keep in mind that many clients won't see the difference on productions between the 4k and 1080 when this camera will be used. It's just a tool to make my life easier on certain shoots and also make my productions better when it is needed. Lastly...yes that pond is beautiful, but definitely made to look more beautiful in the video. Thanks again.

@TheFandangovideoguy 2 ай бұрын

@@savillecreations8046 yeah. This camcorder could be a great addition to my tool box but i can't afford it. I havent been doing many live events lately where I need to connect to big screens and XLR etc. Real camcorder work. For smaller projects I got a coupe of FX30 with decent lenses. I guess it's "unfair" to compare it to even the FX30 and the FX6 and the other awesome cameras you own. But there are times when a true ENG camcorder is the way to go. Or maybe we are old school? LOL...Maybe I'll get a second hand one if the price is right. Thanks so much

@savillecreations8046 2 ай бұрын

@@TheFandangovideoguy Ya at 55 years old I might be old school :) But the run and gun features are hard to beat. The FX30 is a great camera. Hope you are liking it.

@TheFandangovideoguy 2 ай бұрын

@@savillecreations8046 are you calling me a young man? LOL...56 here. I even used SVHS camcorders long ago! wow...I guess the look of mirrroless is more "cinematic" but good pro camcorders are very useful. Here in Canada I bought 2 Sony FX30 for the price of one XF605 and for the small weddings I do, this business decision made sense...I will buy your 605 when you are done with it! LOL> Take care

@savillecreations8046 2 ай бұрын

@@TheFandangovideoguy Haha. I'm 56 in July. Side note: My wife is from Montreal. Her parents now live in Toronto. We live in Salt Lake City, Utah. Love getting back up north to visit family and friends. Was just in Calgary.

@nealwynne3016 23 күн бұрын

Do you find there is a difference between recording prores 422 externally vs the xfavc intra frame internal 422 format?

@savillecreations8046 16 күн бұрын

@@nealwynne3016 I personally don’t see a difference. I’ll do the pro res only when a client asks for it.

@TheFandangovideoguy 2 ай бұрын

I'll buy a gently used 605 for a good price! I just can't pay full price! LOL

@GMRiverBoys 2 ай бұрын

I’ll sell you ours for half off list price, and it comes with an A30 and an A60.

@GMRiverBoys 2 ай бұрын

Just don’t shoot anything in low light or indoors. Ours sits in the storage closet collecting dust. I shoot Canon and Sony, and prefer Canon, but the 605 is a bad camera for the price. You’re in full sunlight, go into the wooded area and shoot in the shadows then post the clips.

@TheFandangovideoguy 2 ай бұрын

collecting dust?! wow...oh...I rented one last year and I recorded in 4k (while my XF300 recorded in HD). The 605 footage was ok but nothing vastly superior to the XF300...at least not to my eyes. But it could be me. If I continue to do live events I will need a good professional camcorder. I want to like Canon...

@fsb6724 2 ай бұрын

Bad camera for the price? It depends on what you are filming? I made a ton of money with camcorders and still do. I also do films and own C70s and R5c. I actually have two XF605s. I have definitely maximized ROI with these cameras.

@savillecreations8046 2 ай бұрын

It’s why I said it has its place. No need to film in poor lit scenarios as that’s not what I bought it for. I use cinema cameras extensively but there are situations where the 605 is great to have. And there are times in foreign countries that I won’t risk having expensive lenses and cameras where I question customs and the higher risk of being robbed. Was in Honduras and a camera like the 605 is great for the run and gun situations...which for safety there were many of those times. Also had an R5c and a couple small lenses for interviews, low light and the times we could capture more cinematic content. But every time I use the 605, which is maybe a couple times a month, I’m always glad I have it.

@savillecreations8046 2 ай бұрын

@@fsb6724 I have an R5c also and it is a great camera. Like any camera it has its pros and cons. If I want much more cinematic footage, higher resolution, fast lenses…the R5c is excellent. If I have a situation where I need built in ND filters, SDI, long servo zoom and immediately ready to go, the 605 works for me in those situations.

@GMRiverBoys 2 ай бұрын

@@TheFandangovideoguy I love canon but the 605 was purchased for run-and-gun corporate work. It doesnt meet our expectations so it sits in the closet, we also have 2 Panasonic camcorders that can shoot 4K60 and they produce a MUCH cleaner image compared to the 605. This is indoor with studio lighting and the 605 has very noticeable noise. It’s fine outside is the sunlight that’s about it.