Do you think Iron Maiden should play To Tame a Land live again? Also, posted ALL of the materials used in this episode FOR FREE (you don't have to be a Patreon unless you would like to support the show) here - www.patreon.com/posts/iron-maiden-to-100245152?Link&
@werc85music5 ай бұрын
I would be great to hear live! 🤘🏻😎
@RobertEleuteri-fj8fp5 ай бұрын
Absolutely! 🤘🏼
@MKO-USA5 ай бұрын
@MetalPilgrim - If you look above Herbert Ails you can see Sand Dune Nightclub and grill with arrows pointing to Herbet Ails.
@etonasama5 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I think it would sound quite nice live.
@PhoenixBird90005 ай бұрын
Since Dune is currently a hit in theaters, now is the perfect time.
@mylovesongs24295 ай бұрын
To Tame A Land is one of the best Maiden songs EVER!!! Of all their songs, it is a top-10 for me!!! The song has an atmospheric vibe from like a distant planet. The first riff is magical to me!! It never will get old!!!! They need to add the beautiful tune to the U.S. leg of the Future Past tour!!!!!
@Stefan979-5 ай бұрын
One of their best songs. From dynamics to lyrics to instrumentation - precious.
@Gorbyrev5 ай бұрын
I remember Bruce Dickinson tearing into Frank Herbert's refusal to grant permission to use the title "Dune" on the World Piece Tour gig at the Playhouse in Edinburgh. As a 13 year old I was clueless and only a little less clueless after reading the novel itself. Great song though and a shout out to Dream Theater who did the most amazing cover of the song on the covers disc contained in the deluxe edition of "Black Clouds and Silver Linings".
@daiwilliams56285 ай бұрын
Did the same rant in Cardiff too !
@adam8725 ай бұрын
DT's version is fantastic
@thekaptain15555 ай бұрын
No you don't
@seanlepki91215 ай бұрын
@@thekaptain1555shut up
@Gorbyrev5 ай бұрын
@thekaptain1555 May 1983, I assure you I do. First ever gig. Grand Prix were the supporting act and tickets were a fiver.
@ultrafivethousand5 ай бұрын
I borrowed a friend’s copy of Piece of Mind in the 1980s, and when that song came on I was like, “HEY, that’s from Dune!” I had read the book a couple of years before that, and I was so happy to see that Iron Maiden had read the same book. One of the most exciting things about listening to music pre-internet was coming across songs that referenced works from other media like books or movies, or catching something in a book or movie that you recognized from song lyrics, but hadn’t realized was a reference.
@BriskyShark5 ай бұрын
This is my favorite iron maiden song period, it’s how I became absolutely obsessed with dune some years back
@ScottyKirk15 ай бұрын
There's a great video here on YT that syncs the '84 movie with the song. Great stuff! 😅
@BriskyShark5 ай бұрын
@@ScottyKirk1 That was the video that led me to finding dune!!
@adam8725 ай бұрын
To Tame a Land is an absolute banger. One of their best IMHO.
@19TheEvergreyOne785 ай бұрын
Together with Still Life, To Tame a Land is the song I'd love for them to play again as I sadly have never been able to experience them live.
@padywac19705 ай бұрын
I saw Maiden in 84 and 21. If you get to see them next time they come close to you. You should do it! I can vouch for the fact that they still rock as hard as they did in the 80s.
@1001SHAD4 ай бұрын
Saw them about 15 years ago, a few friends have caught them more recently. Great show but- Bruce came right out and told everybody ‘we’ve got a new album and we’re playing the whole thing!’ Not gonna lie, there was a very low, collective groan from the audience. I hear it’s pretty typical. We got Hallowed and (maybe) run to the hills as encore’s. Place went nuts. The rest was good but I’d never heard any of it.
@the_lichemaster5 ай бұрын
The complete opposite with Patrick McGoohan who's response when they were getting permission to use the prisoner was Do It!
@jonnywishbone48055 ай бұрын
_Do it!_ 😂
@richard1966groovy5 ай бұрын
I caught the World Piece tour stop in Toronto and remember having a good laugh when Bruce introduced the song, tearing a strip off Frank Herbert for not letting them use Dune as the title.
@stevep24485 ай бұрын
To Tame a Land inspired me to read Dune, now my favorite novel. Being a Ukrainian not living in Ukraine (US), what I learned from this vid really struck a chord with me. It just tied everything together in some strange way. Very cool feeling.
@Mike_Collins3925 ай бұрын
Man , this really takes me back ... 1983 was a long time ago , yes indeed. My dad had a massive stereo in his living room , so all the neighbors got to listen to POM back then as well !!! This is my favorite song from my favorite album , UP THE IRONS ( and the rivit heads too ) !!!
@haldalorian5 ай бұрын
I had this album on vinyl, and the lyrics for the song printed inside misspelled “Muad’Dib” as “Maud’Dib.”
@shaihulud45155 ай бұрын
Fun fact: As a big Maiden fan, "To tame a land" wasn't exactly my favorite song, BUT - because of those "mystical" words I did some research and found out that it is lore from a book called "Dune" by Frank Herbert. OK, so I bought the first book, read it, and bought the second...and the third...and the fourth...to make it short: all six of Herbert's original work. This was some thirty years ago. And to this day, "Dune" has left it's mark in many ways. And if you haven't read it: DO IT! It's very deep, philosophical, and is a perfect canvas to reflect about humanity, ethics, religion and politics alltogether. And makes you appreciate Maiden's song even more! P.S.: Blind Guardian also made a song about Dune: Traveler in time. Do you know any more bands that did songs about Dune? 'Cause I'd really love to know!
@scamp78875 ай бұрын
Best blind guardian song for sure!
@Defrezus3 ай бұрын
As luck would have it, I'm seeing BG a week from now! I would just rather not go to New York. But you got to do what you got to do.
@scamp78873 ай бұрын
@@Defrezus I'll be seeing them on this tour as well.
@shaihulud45153 ай бұрын
@@Defrezus :-D I hear you man, I hear you! Have a good time at their show \m/
@deniguenard82785 ай бұрын
That is ironic that you posted this video. I recently watched both the new release of Dune and went back to the 1984 version to juxtapose the difference between the two. To tame a Land is arguably my favorite Iron Maiden song of all time. I love the middle eastern vibe throughout the song and how it is so atmospheric in sound that it transports you into this otherworldly place known as Dune. As a bass player myself I have sat down and learned this song and it is not easy to play the whole way through as it takes a lot of stamina. Especially when it comes to that riff you had highlighted in the video is rather quick and tricky to pull off and do. I knew of the movie Dune back in 1984 and I believe at the time there was an arcade video game of it, but it wasn't until years later I became interested in the source of inspiration behind that song (as well as other Maiden tunes such as Brave New World as an example in which I read also). I think Frank Herbert shot himself in the foot for denying Maiden to use the original song title Dune but in all fairness, I do prefer the (now) alternate title much better as it adds to the intrigue of the song all the more.
@Metla6665 ай бұрын
I read the dune books as a teenager, and never made the connection. It wasn't until I mentioned to someone that it was a shame Maiden had never done a song about Dune as I figured it would be a perfect fit that it was pointed out to me that To Tame a land was in fact Dune. Something of a Revelation.
@the_trooper_725 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what's more shocking.. The fact that Frank Herbert denied Maiden or that people still haven't subscribed to your channel!! 🤘🏻😎🙏🏻💥
@muriloid5 ай бұрын
Question, there are so many high quality clips from the piece of mind era in this video, where did you got them? I always struggle to find good videos of that tour. Also, as always, great video! This song is so awesome, its the perfect precursor to the Powerslave era imo.
@MetalPilgrim5 ай бұрын
Hey man, just posted all of the links here (you don't have to be a Patron) - www.patreon.com/posts/iron-maiden-to-100245152?Link&
@larslevinberget95585 ай бұрын
My favorite song on the Piece Of Mind album back when it came out :) Much because it is co-written with Dave Murray
@borisbabich5 ай бұрын
Once, traveling on my motorcycle from Belgrade to Stuttgart, most of the time I did the Tun-ah-tunah-ttunah-tuna... drlinnng, drlinnng! in my helmet. Such a great song. Thanks again and I hope you have your city back soon. 💪
@GBCR5 ай бұрын
That must have been an amazing trip! I've been in both Belgrade and Stuttgart, but not from one to the other - and certainly not on a motorcycle. Cheers!
@borisbabich5 ай бұрын
@@GBCR It was - especially as I was basically a kid. 😊 Cheers!
@emem27565 ай бұрын
Inspired by Dune , I recommend "Traveller in Time" by Blind Guardian
@TOGade-dj6jh5 ай бұрын
Rime of the ancient mariner, one of the best metal pieces ever written. They honor the horror tale said to be one of the first ever written. 🤘🏻🇸🇪
@seanlepki91215 ай бұрын
7:57 this sounds more like that one part in "mother Russia" from no prayer for the dying
@marcmorenogarcia15395 ай бұрын
Woww Man, Im spanish and I didnt know the fact that the band incorporated that riff based in Isaac Albeniz! I've always listened and reminded me a lot, but never thought it was played with that intention! Great video as well!!!
@trikkke115 ай бұрын
Serious : it hardly sounds intentional. And Pilgrim will never know until Harris admits it. This channel is always so full of BS.
@catmanduu665 ай бұрын
It's kind of super crazy. I have loved this song since first hearing it and it is one of my favorite Maiden tracks. I had never read the novel but did talk to people who had and they gave me the gist of it. I saw the original movie in 1985 and hated it. It was just to bizarre back then. Fast forward to a couple of years ago when the new Dune movie comes out. Right before that movie I listened to the Dune book on audio and fell in love with it. I wasn't super impressed with the movie and now feel the 84 version is better. I then read/listened to the Frank Hebert biography. This story is in there. Now I've read Dune Messiah and Children of Dune and seen the new movie and kind of hated it too. I went back and reread chapters 38 to the end of the book, the plot of this movie, and they took to much out. The movie is really the things they don't talk about in the book. There would be one line about a battle but no description and the movie of course fleshed that out. Which was good but they took away some of the best parts of the book. Sorry, a bit of the rant at the end. I love this song.
@ericperreault88895 ай бұрын
would love to hear to tame a land live! Since I'm born in 83 it was hard for me to catch that tour...so even after my 25th iron maiden show in wacken ( I did try to find you btw would've been nice to talk) I still haven't heard that song...next time I meet steve I'll ask about it for sure now that alexander the great been played let's go for a return of to tame a land :P
@meloralovesdarkness249526 күн бұрын
Though POWERSLAVE got me into Maiden in 84, it was KILLERS and Then Piece of Mind, that got me cemented an addicted to old Maiden. "To Tame a Land" is one of my Favorite tracks from POM For Sure! In those years I Was confused! I then saw the DUNE film later in 84 or 85 & drew the 2 together! = Awesome! Awesom Author and Band!
@JiveTurkey1254 ай бұрын
Saw this tour in 83 at the Garden with Quiet Riot Absolute Favorite Maiden song
@johnebejer5 ай бұрын
Aussie 70's hard rock band Buffalo had a song called Dune Messiah.
@MrAero1645 ай бұрын
Dang you are right. Is it about Dune though?
@GarryParker5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight! It was only a few months ago, after listening to this song for all those years, did I realise it was about Dune. I was sat listening to it in the car when the penny dropped. What a great song.
@lordcarnorjax85995 ай бұрын
I didn't really get into To Tame A Land till I'd read Dune. That book is amazing and at the same time it's not a easy read. Listening to Iron Maiden has certainly broadened the type of books I read, that's for sure.
@ChristopherMarlborough5 ай бұрын
Great Video. Worth a sub. I remember Bruce telling that story about Frank Herbert's refusal to let them use the name when they played it on the Piece of Mind tour. He was the best storyteller. I have been playing To Tame a Land for my 11-year old son and we are going to watch the first Dune movie next week. Would love to see a video about his Revelations rap on the same tour about Samuel Taylor Coleridge, hemp, and Queen Victoria.
@afobos15 ай бұрын
Bein an avid reader most of my life (mostly sci-fi) I read the Dune books long before Iron Maiden turned it into a song and knowing what they were singing about just added to the joy of experiencing that album shortly after it came out. Yep, I'm old.
@rachaeltownend68725 ай бұрын
I love it! It’s a bit lyrically awkward at times, and from a bass player’s point of view it’s a sod to play, but it’s a classic for sure!
@projectavalongame4 ай бұрын
So many Maiden songs go E - C - D - E or some variation of that (and I love it), but this song shows how much of a genius Steve Can be.
@CheshireTomcat685 ай бұрын
Iron Maiden and Ana Vidovic. The cross over I was not expecting!
@xetanth875 ай бұрын
How were they allowed to namedrop so many words invented by Herbert? They could have made a subtle tribute to Dune, but they decided to make it extra obvious and I'm really curious how they didn't get into trouble for it
@Metla6665 ай бұрын
Pretty sure more people came to know the world of dune from the books rather then from the 1984 movie. It is the best selling Science Fiction novel of all time.
@orendungan34555 ай бұрын
I came to IM after Powerslave, so To Tame a Land was already in play, and I had seen Dune a couple of times before catching up to Piece of Mind. I was blown away at first listening, although my friend at the time was clueless about all the lyrics, asking me what the hell was a gom jabber (that's how he said it). I told him all about it and felt like I knew a thing. Much different from now, where I never feel like I know anything. Still one of my favorites, and still stands out against a backdrop of an album of great, great songs. Stay safe out there.
@voronOsphere5 ай бұрын
Heaviest Maiden Riff when the Metal kicks in!
@mcstabba5 ай бұрын
To Tame A Land is great, Dune is great.... and Piece Of Mind is my favourite Maiden album! (Somewhere In Time is a close second).
@ricklindberg4228Ай бұрын
Of course Maiden should play it live. To Tame A Land is heavy. It's epic. It's always been a personal favorite. It's like several songs in one with all the different riffs and time changes and moods. A spectacular Maiden masterpiece. It would have been amazing had they put it on Live After Death too. UP THE IRONS!!!!
@daviddoty-ni9leАй бұрын
phantom of the Opera clocked in at 8 min & the longest song they ever recorded is empire of the clouds clocking in at 18 minutes
@GODemon135 ай бұрын
You didn't hear Samuel Taylor Coleridge making a stink about it.
@mvunit35 ай бұрын
Haha! :P
@markstammers19235 ай бұрын
I remember trying to read the novel when I was younger, and couldn't get into it so gave up,Years later after listening to TTAL(many times over the years)I gave the books another go,and really enjoyed them, And the song made more sense as well.
@Saurles4 ай бұрын
This is my absolute favorite song by Maiden, but I still have yet to read the nove.
@DoctorEnigma015 ай бұрын
I followed maiden on the peace of mind tour to 3 different cities and met Steve Harris in Fresno, good times
@davidbayerle66525 ай бұрын
One of my all time favorite Maiden tracks, I love the darkness , guitar riffs and bass lines are fantastic 🤘🇨🇦🇺🇦
@christschinwon5 ай бұрын
Much better title than Dune anyway. Steve was on fire writing epics in the 80s. I don't even mind the weird lyrics. Incredible tune!
@NunoGuitarsSilva5 ай бұрын
Cheers from Portugal 💪🤘
@jandrexel-le5dj5 ай бұрын
My first concert 🤘 Dave extended the songs guitar outro by a few minutes, taking it to a sophisticated level.
@KABModels5 ай бұрын
As if to prove Steve right about popularising the film Dune, this is the first time i knew the song was about dune.
@FernanMas5 ай бұрын
I am not a special fan of Maiden, but this is my fav song of metal realms ever. Simply a perfecte song
@ScottyKirk15 ай бұрын
Still have my bootleg double CD of the Hammersmith '83 show. Incredible concert! Always enjoyed the story Bruce tells the audience about trying to get the song title from Herbert. 😅 😎
@sfermigier5 ай бұрын
To Tame a Land is also one of my favourite Maiden songs. I was slightly (but not unexpectedly) disappointed that they didn't use the song for the closing credits of the movie. Given the water that has passed under the bridge, and the passing of Herbert, this would have been possible, even if improbable.
@marcusmiller82675 ай бұрын
Iron Maiden has been a huge part of my life. I don't think I've ever seen Dune (though I probably should). Thanks for a very interesting post. And God be with you. I'm so disgusted that my country (USA) is using the war as a political football. You and your countrymen (and ladies) deserve far better. My heart goes out to you.
@jesseturner98655 ай бұрын
Considering a movie came out in 1984, I wonder if that has more to do with it. Frank or the publication thought it was riding on the productions coat tails rather than standing on its own.
@woodreauxwoodreaux62985 ай бұрын
I didn't even think about reading any Herbert's works until Iron Maiden made that song. The only battle Frank Herbert won was the battle against himself. Who the hell doesn't like Iron Maiden? What was wrong with that guy?
@R3stlessNWild5 ай бұрын
A lot of things. Dude was also such a raging homophobe that he not only disowned his son Bruce for being gay, Frank also kept him from being able to see his mother *on her deathbed.* All in all, a world class prick.
@alanchristian82895 ай бұрын
I remember Bruce having a go at Herbert when they played Nottingham on the world piece tour.
@ClarenceDoskocil5 ай бұрын
It was a dick move. The song encapsulates the book better than all three (four) DUNE films. Song is as good as the book.
@garymitchell58994 ай бұрын
Yeah that'd be exciting being at a concert with Bruce explaining their legal spats
@Ribulose15diphosphat5 ай бұрын
Finally a Video about my favourite Song.
@SeaOfMadness5 ай бұрын
They just needed to call the song June. Sorted.
@strangelee44005 ай бұрын
They could play it after the ides of march.
@m0zidesigner5 ай бұрын
Dream Theater's cover of To Tame a Land is pretty epic as well.. John Myung killing it on the bass as always.
@Crispy_Mofo_5 ай бұрын
I would love to tame a land and still life be played live. Dave was being a master on this album.
@johnnyrandom1005 ай бұрын
Amazing song. The reason I read the book.
@kudukilla5 ай бұрын
Same.
@kudukilla5 ай бұрын
Same.
@joebarrera97415 ай бұрын
ALL I CAN SAY STEVE HARRIS IS AWESOME HE'S SUCH PROLIFIC SONGWRITER ONE OF BEST BASSTS IN THE WORLD❤
@angusorvid88405 ай бұрын
POM is one of my favorite Maiden albums. Just a masterpiece.
@google_was_my_idea_first5 ай бұрын
Iron Maiden were so correct. Had I had known this was about the story Dune, I would have totally gone out and bought the book.
@rockstorm43815 ай бұрын
The arrow @4:18 confused me a bit since it was pointing to Clive Burr (former drummer). Frank Herbert is further up in the credits.
@MetalPilgrim5 ай бұрын
Yeah, sorry about that ;) Accidentaly moved it haha
@slot-store85065 ай бұрын
Luckywise i had the chance to see/hear it live in 1984 in Kerkrade , Netherlands and even there Bruce had some "nice words" for Frank Herbert
@bretsigler5 ай бұрын
Most definitely they should play this live again and they should play it right after Alexander the Great 🤘
@p.w.s15 ай бұрын
I definitely prefer "to tame a land" to "dune"
@parazatico90305 ай бұрын
Apparently Tolkien disliked Dune. I believe he was asked to provide an endorsement for it, but declined.
@R3stlessNWild5 ай бұрын
Can't say I blame him. It's a good story with a ton of world building, but GOOD GRIEF, getting through Herbert's prose was like trying to walk through quicksand while carrying cinderblocks after getting dosed with trazodone.
@crewyou075 ай бұрын
Mmmm, unlike most of the Heavy Metal fans at that time who, as you said had no idea that the lyrical content of “To Tame a Land” was not just a bunch of words strung together. I was fortunate to have a friend who immediately recognized the subject of the song during one of our ( first listen to an album after purchase session ) having read “Dune” by Frank Herbert multiple times at that point. On another note, I also think that “Still Life” is my favorite song from that release with “To Tame a Land” a very close second.
@catmus15065 ай бұрын
To Tame a Land is probably my favourite song of theirs in all time. Most metal heads actually read so I don’t know why anyone can have any issue with it.
@craiggraham41344 ай бұрын
I would have never known about Judge Dredd if not for Anthrax
@ElViejoYElViaje5 ай бұрын
"To Tame a Land" has ALWAYS been my favorite Maiden song, by far. So underrated in my opinion.
@davidromano24215 ай бұрын
To me this is the definitive album and to tame a land is one of the best tracks on it
@jackclements21635 ай бұрын
It's a tight track to play to...a deceptive challenge for guitarists. It has many modulations and is important for that reason for Maiden and Steve as it shows their musicianship competence!
@jbertucci5 ай бұрын
Great vid, hohol 😂 ❤
@jeanrunkle10595 ай бұрын
7:22 thats adrians les paul!! Just now noticed that!
@canaan53375 ай бұрын
I wanted them to play it at the end of the first dune movie
@icekiwi95335 ай бұрын
Awesome Vlad. Cheers
@1848revolt5 ай бұрын
I was lucky enough to see the world piece tour.
@sharadmohip65367 күн бұрын
The first half of the song is one of the best ever… they don’t bring back the main riff and the outro messes up the song for me 😊
@ahmettahsinertas26525 ай бұрын
though I know the whole story in detail, I love your narration and probably would listen to you if you were to report weather forecast instead
@chrisvanallsburg5 ай бұрын
I did a cover/play along with To Tame a Land, and I have a map of Middle Earth in the background too. Ha. It's one of their best!
@Axe_WoundTV5 ай бұрын
I used to really like this song when I was 12-13 but it doesn't go anywhere near Hallowed or Revelations or Phantom. I'm not a Dune fan though. Awesome video, liked+subbed. Слава Україні
@KeshikS2C5 ай бұрын
Amazing song
@Crinklechip-s5 ай бұрын
I didn't know that. Man, 'To Tame A Land' totally got me into Dune. Frank Herbert was a dunce for being so short with Steve Harris. I can only imagine how many fans Iron Maiden made of the Dune books... I suppose its a tired old stereotype to think that Heavy Metal and its fans are idiots. What a stupid idea!
@igortchernowitzer9275 ай бұрын
Such a pity Maiden had dropped To Tame A Land way too early, They should have played it live longer, So is big regret they never played Sun And Steel
@cvzanikos15 ай бұрын
Bruce Dickinson being Bruce Dickinson basically. Call enough people an asshole enough times eventually you become one.
@Sotoskiller20094 ай бұрын
Epic song!
@mvunit35 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this up! . . . Around the time this album was released, I was working at a Pizza Restaurant in Diamond Bar California. I was introduced maybe a year or 2 before the album release, to the Dune (Novel) series by a friend in high school (circa 1979), and I also became a fan of Maiden after their debut album. On a AOR FM Station from LA that is now long gone; "KMET 94.7" ("The Mighty Met") was one of the 1st in the nation to have an all Metal program on Fridays in 1983 at 9pm that was hosted by "Jim Ladd" called *The Mighty Metal Shop/kMETAL Shop,* in which I heard TONS of bands that would become classics, and the latest _subgenres_ being debuted throughout the 80's (including MANY Underground bands, and the NWOBHM). But on the same station, was a segment that came on between commercials called "Off The Record" (which I believe was hosted by DJ "Cynthia Fox") . . . I wish I had taped this on the "Boom Box" that I listened to music with at work, as Cynthia told the story about Frank Herbert and Iron Maiden, and what his Publicist had responded. Which answered the question for me why it wasn't entitled "Dune", because it was my favorite track by Maiden off "Piece of Mind" (and "Where Eagles Dare"). But it continued . . . I am _guessing_ I heard this with my own ears a year or 2 after the release of Piece of Mind, Cynthia Fox actually interviewed Frank Herbert (!!!), and for the "Off the Record" segment, asked Frank if he ever _heard_ the Maiden track? (!!!). And she _played it for him_ . . . and he actually liked it! I can remember he was quite taken by how they put his story and the lyrics together (I'm sure I remember him saying that), and the music itself! I think, as anyone who had no clue what Metal music really was, only had stereotypes & cliches to base what they _thought_ the music would sound like. Believe me, I have scoured the Internet and Yt to find it to no avail :(. I may even go to lengths to see if I can contact _Cynthia_ to in-fact confirm that I didn't dream this up :P. But I thought I'd share this with fellow Maiden & DUNE fans. Maybe someone here in SoCal will also remember hearing it. Note, there have been PLENTY of Metal bands taking a crack at the DUNE storyline as well . . . mavearworx.weebly.com/blog/m-a-v-e-a-r-w-o-r-x-track-to-track-playlist-4-d-u-n-e - Thanks again Metal Pilgrim, and taking time to read \m/.
@jimmym33525 ай бұрын
Definitely a top 10'r for me. It would be hard to rank it the highest. There are just so many to choose from. I still think I like mariner a little better among their "epic" songs. Both songs are top 10 if not top 5.