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A point towards your theory, Paradox confirmed that the ending of one of the games is an alternate universe. In that ending Albedo turns into alien x and is trapped as he is unable to convince Bellecus or Serena and is trapped to debate with them for as long as they want.

I feel like there's an obvious answer as to why he didn't gather alternative Vilgax's. I doubt any of them would play subservient to another Vilgax and any Vilgax that does have an Omnitrix is probably way too evil/powerful to work with our boy.

The forge of creation exists outside the universe implying across the multiverse their is only one. Which would mean across the multiverse there is only one Alien X. So if Belecus and Serana only agree with Ben Prime then only he can use Alien X’s power.

It's also important to note, that Ben can only transform into Alien X if the other two personalities inside allow him to first.

A huge reason I think the evil Ben army didn’t have any Alien X users is simply because if they had Alien X unlocked and usable they either would be stuck in an eternal debate or alternatively they would be so powerful that they would likely kill or enslave Vilgax if he tried to bring them to his side

I've heard that one of the creators of the show said all Omnimatrixes share the one Alien X. Of course each writer has their own ideas on how everything works. But it's an interesting possibility that once Prime Ben gained favor with Alien X's personalities, he gained near exclusive rights to the transformation.

Albedo only can mentally alter his dna to whatever aliens were in the active playlist of the ultimatrix at the time when Ben interfered with Albedo’s machine to transform him back to galvan form. Alien X was currently locked out of the active playlist without the keys that Gwen and Kevin had. Albedo only had access to every classic, af (minus Alien X) and ua alien (and Gravattack). He doesn’t have playlists anymore because he doesn’t have an omnimatrix device.

There was an argument in another video (I forgot where) that Ben 10K also cannot fully control Alien X, he had to fuse it with Atomix in order to circumvent the two personalities. Which is why Atomic-X isn't as powerful as pure Alien X because fusion splits the two alien's DNA in half and combine it to form another new kind of Alien. In that argument, splitting Alien-X's DNA in half allows its user to take control of Alien-X without the need to argue with the two personalities but also made him extremely weak, which is why Atomic-X is vulnerable to Time-Bomb. Duncan Rouleau, creator of ben 10 series, stated that any fusion with Celestialsapien DNA is less powerful than Alien X due to the Celestialsapien DNA being diluted.

There's only one forge of creation at the center of the Omniverse so all Alien X transformations across the Ominiverse have the same personalities inside them and Paradox said there's a time-line where Albedo got trapped in Alien X for a year, so, Bellicus and Serena just not allowing evil Omnitrix users to use their powers at all and the younger inexperient/immature versions being unable to win in an argument with them makes perfect sense

A note against Vilgax's ability to team up with other variants of himself through the multiverse. Vilgax is obviously evil, perhaps the most evil within the series wishing for nothing but endless conquest - if Vilgax was to form a team completely made up of alternate selves, then they would most certainly fight for control over the group which would cause the plan to flop. Although, it would be humorous to see Omniverse Vilgax get obliterated by classic Vilgax and Future Vilgax since the two are obviously more capable than Vilgax Prime.

5:35 Instead of putting Alien X DNA inside the Omnitrix. I like to think that the Omnitrix just transport Alien X to Ben location and Ben into Alien X mind space. Since Alien X exist before Ben and continue to after he die, it could be assumed that Paradox trick them to become anchored to the Omnitrix and because a transformation.

Perhaps its like how Kuro put it in the heroes united reaction. "If this is the same timeline, even the so much things change there is the ROLE of someone being the HERO"

The Ben of the game vilgax attacks (I think it was this game) is a different version of Ben and he is able to use alien x. It also appears that he has a better relationship with Bellicus and Serena as they let him turn back to human instead of keeping him in alien x form unlike Ben prime.

You could also draw the point of Ben Prime being the voice of reason and thus being the one capable of convincing Bellicus and Serena is because he is from the prime timeline. Meaning he has the most reason, as his existence is the most logical. Since every other universe/dimension would be a deviation from his path.

I always assumed that if another Alien X tried to erase our Ben, the omnitrix would just turn Ben into Alien X as well, which is arguably worse for Vilgax then just not trying to erase Ben and having him not turn into Alien X, hence why Vilgax never had it happen

The real question is why albedo trust vilgax again

there is actually a timeline were albedo did turn into alien X witch happend in a ben 10 game and witch professor paradox in UAF referenced by saying "in a world where Albedo was trapped as Alien X for nearly a year"

here's something about alien x i wonder about sometimes... if alien x can rewind time, is it possible for him to freeze it? could ben, serena and bellicus have debates in a stopped time? if he can't, can he modify ben's personal state? like, theoretically, could ben ask for control over alien x in exchange for spending his sleeping hours talking with them, and they just give him a free full night rest in its place? just makes me wonder if ben could have had full alien x control much earlier if he made the right proposal.

2 things: we could say that celestiansapiens are 4 dimensional beings we could assume that ben is the default user of the omnitrix since there are more bens that anyone with omnitrixes, so maybe ben is the perfect person to use the omnitrix since other subjects go wrong somewhere and god knows how they end (imagine azmut fucks up something with the dna, they die, they "go rogue" with to much power and die/end in galactic prision, etc), or maybe the owner of the omnitrix is always someone good (celestial sapiens did it) and at some point some of them turn evil

the fact that some of the writers give some backstory for the other ben's expect bad ben he's the only one without a backstory

When it comes to Ben's who started to leave the heroic path, I would also count Benzarro. As I always given his zombie look, his reality looks like a zombie apocalypse(think marvel zombies if you want) and Benzarro was just as heroic as Ben Prime but clearly became infected with a virus that would ultimately lead to his zombie look and become a fallen hero. (I say this as I'm kinda mad that Omniverse only showed two different Ben's realities both Ben 23 and Mad Ben)

I do remember a statement from Man of Action stating that no matter what version of Ben uses Alien X, it's the exact same Alien X all the time meaning that it exists in a state where he's basically everywhere and nowhere at the same time. It also said "as to which one they'd help depends on who activates it first", so basically whoever pulls Alien X in the Omnitrix first is the one who gets to use it, so theoretically any of them could. My guess is that when Ben 10k went Atomic X (which from what I remember is one of his most common fusions), it locked the others out of Alien X due to the Celestialsapien DNA technically being in use at the time

3:16 yes ben63 for the win.

So if Ben procured a bunch of Bioid's and turns them all into Alien X would they all be connected in a sort of hive mind or would they be different personalities working to the same goal? Would they all be as powerful as Alien X or would 12 total copies be individually 1/12th as powerful?

Its important to note that Albedo, aside from already having it proven that he cant reach an agreement with B and C in the Vilgax Attacks game, might not even have access to alien x. His stabilizer stabilizes forms that ben had available during albedos last appearance in UA. At that time, Alien X was locked away from Bens playlist by keys held by Gwen and Kevin

I honestly feel Bad Ben has a shot at using Alien X, he seems to be much smarter and manipulative than the other Ben's, i could see him convincing serena and belicus to give him control.

I think it was stated that there is only one Alien x that each alternative ben has access to since celestial sapiens live outside the multiverses so if two bens transformed to Alien they will probably fight over control in someway maybe see who will persuade belligus and seriena

“Make Ben 63 into Ben prime” A man of culture I see.

Albato's alien x personalities are not the same as Ben's because they have different names and are more like Albato and the main reason ben can use alien x is because his two personalities are still fighting not because of his nature although it is a part of the reason why he previously had control over it as they only gave him limited time to use it and because of what he has using it for is why he got permission before but know because alienx's personalities are letting him control while they are arguing is the real reason he has control

It's stated that Alien X can be used by only one of the Bens across the Multiverse at a time basically all the Bens can't turn into Alien X at the same time. That one Alien X just goes to whichever Ben or Omnitrix user needs him at that time. All the Bens and Omnitrix users across the multiverse use the same Alien X.

Well there was a Statement by Duncan that suggests Alien x is Omnipresent in the Omnitrix's in the Omniverse As well as a Statement by Bellicus in his Debut "Alien X doesn't do Anything until it's put to a Vote we only cut you slack cause you're new..But that's the Procedure" Either Suggesting 2 Things 1)Bellicus was just explaining how Alien X functions 2)Explaining that It's Standard Procedure to allow anyone who first transforms into Alien X to get a Free First Action I'm more Leaning to number 2

I remember in Ben 10 Vilgax Attack for the DS Albedo did turn into Alien X but that was the game the video is pretty awesome

Pretty sure alien X wouldnt just let him do it Also i heard that alien x pretty much goes to whoever calls him

I think the only thing Id point out is the fact that whenever you use the term dimension, you actually mean timeline. I know Omniverse kept using the whole dimension 23 to represent Ben 23, however if you look at what a dimension actually is in the Ben 10 lore and what a timeline is you'd see that what these bens or other omnitrix wielding beings are, are beings from other timelines. Think of prime Ben being the trunk of a tree, all the other counterparts being timelines, dimensions being realms that reside within the universe and the universe it's being analogous to the whole tree.

I always wanted to see an Ultimate Ben transformation where he has all the powers and functionalities of the Omnitrix simultaneously except for Alien X. I know we see something kind of like this in Ultimate Alien with future Ben, but he still had to call out the names of the aliens and use them one at a time so not what I'm talking about.

I have barely watched Ben 10 and know almost nothing about the show at all, yet this still remained incredibly entertaining…Congratulations

One theory could be that if anyone of them turns into alien X then even if they could convince them to do anything they would be staring at 2-4 alien X’s when they got out because if I saw someone turn into alien X then all limiters are off. They have plenty of time to transform into something equal with how long it took even Ben Prime to fix a single dam in the first appearance.

vilgax can not even have gotten the first omnitrix because it was connected to max's DNA because max was the one who was supost to get the omnitrix and that also explains why Gwen was able to get it to.

The ben 10 reboot actually had a movie called "Alien xtinction" where there is an alternate evil ben who uses Alien x

I think all Ben’s do have access to their own Alien X, but they either just don’t have access to that yet or they can’t physically control it because of Serena and Bellicus not agreeing to give those maniacs the responsibility. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they actually tried it out off screen

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Considering albedo also got stuck in a celestialsapien form for a year in one universe, yeah lol..

Another theory is that Alien X can only be wielded by a good guy and not a bad guy.

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i think the answer is basically just: Balicus and Serina > the concept of time itself Their consciousness supersedes time and thus any timeline shenanigans. They basically choose when they feel like letting Ben use Alien X, so it stands to reason they can choose which Ben they feel like dealing with. They also seam to not like Ben enough to want to actively avoid dealing with any and all other Bens who they can, or Bens who cant properly fulfill his role as a non partisan neutral voice of reason between Belicus and Serina

Also albedo in an alternate timeline he used alien x bjt was stuvk for a year with belecus and swlena bc he couldnt agree with em the event is confirmed by dr paradox aswell

bro you didn have to do the bad bens at the start so dirty

2:14 true but could Vilgax not go back in time to the time when he had the omnitrix? and take that vilgax with him

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Albedo cannot have Alien X as a transformation if you remember in Ultimate Alien Ben was only shown to transform into Alien X once in episode "The Forge of Creation" and there we learned that Ben has installed a feature where Alien X's DNA in particular will always be locked away and can be only used when both Kevin and Gwen insert their keys into the Ultimatrix stating specifically that the reason for locking that transformation through this key based security system is so that enemies namely Albedo cannot get access to Ben's strongest transformation even if they get access to the Ultimatrix themselves Exhibit A- The Plant monsters And when Albedo gained his ability to transform in other aliens in episode "Double or Nothing" it was because of that accident with Ben and the Ultimatrix when he was trying to regain his original self back and that accident AGAIN happened because of the Ultimatrix which I just explained have literally the Alien X Transformation being locked under lock and key and would need to be unlocked for a use which is likely why when Albedo absorbed the DNA of all the aliens (including ones we haven't seen yet either like Gravattack) Alien X's DNA was not absorbed because of the locking mechanism Also hypothetically speaking all of the Alien X is the same Alien X for all the Omnitrix users across the Multiverse being the same Belicus and Serena versions as stated by Duncan Rouleau that Alien X is beyond Time and Space and the same version exist for every reality the only reason we saw Alien X's first appearance the way we did is because Ben Prime's reality is the first and main reality and it is the one from which the entire multiverse branches from and thus it is likely that Alien X in general was birthed and accessed for the first time in the Multiverse when Ben Ben used it in Alien force episode "X= Ben + 2" and Alien X was birthed into existence while Serena and Belicus met their first version of Ben Tennyson being Ben Prime in what is to be followed by a multiverse of them

Vilgax didn't team up with alternative Vilgaxes due to danger of betrayal

I think your theory on the heroic ben role of the dimensional omnitrix users is flawed when we take into consideration omnitrix Argit. He's more or less just Argit being argit, but with the argitrix

This wanted to be spider verse but remained just 2 episodes

I was wondering the same thing yesterday.

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Editing in this was SMOOTH

Alien X is literally black Elemental Hero Neos design wise Now that I think about it Jaden and Ben are so similar in terms of their characters. Both wear colorful jackets, both use their powers to save the day (Season 4 Jaden materializes Neos and movie Jaden makes Yubel shoot literal ki blasts to "save" the people) and both have a monster/alien that look so similar to each other. _I know this comment is kinda random and off topic but as soon as I saw Alien X in the thumbnail I couldn't stop thinking about these similarities lol_ Great video though, funny editing heh

The reason Vilgax didn't find a timeline where another vilgax had the watch was likely because that Vilgax would be objectively more powerful, and there's nothing stopping that one from going "Why should i listen to a watchless loser like you," and killing our Vilgax. Especially if he's just as power hungry as ours, he would probably rather conquer this universe for himself, rather than let an inferior vilgax take it.

I think an older Gwen 10 would side more with Serena just like Mad Ben would side with Bellicus

Ben10k and BenPrime are from different timeline, it was mentioned in UA that everytime Ben meet with himself his timeline changes

My favorite Aliens are Waterhazard Atomix and Articguana (Ultimate)

I'm pretty sure Bad and Mad Ben would have access to Alien X, as they have versions of the official Omnitrix, which has access to all the DNA in their universes. The only way they wouldn't have Celestial Sapien DNA is if a Celestial Sapien never gave it's sample to that universes Azmuth, or they never made themselves known to that universe

Your videos are pretty interesting! Keep up the work.

Bruh I just realized the plot for Spider-Man into the spiderverse is literally just Ben 10

Remember that besides gwen 10 there is Argit 10

I loved this show this Ben 10 show is the best Bad Ben is my favourite Ben

Ooh, it looks like I've stumbled across a future animation lore channel while it's still small. Best of luck to you in the future. With content like this, I'm sure you'll be a huge channel in no time.

Even if any of the evil bens did transfom into Alien X they would end up being stuck as alien x

Albedos celestial personalities are Annikus and Kursika not Belicus Serena

4:00 actuly there was a onather ben that used alien X .Evil ben from reboot in alien x-tinction specil.. But he did unlock alien x on a difrent way (smashing the omnitrix) and was pretty weak sence he got defrated by lego,apmhibian ,ripjaws, two 10 year old heatblasts and chromostone.

One point about your theory that alternative Vilgax with Omnitrix would not be evil, may not be true. Remember when Paradox and his team of Bens were off recruiting, they see Argit in a pile of gold? Ya, he is not at all worthy of Omnitrix, still he had it. I think, as others suggested, it has to do more with Vilgax knowing he would not be able to work with other himselves... Oh, and also, didn't he actually want to destroy all of the timelines containing Omnitrixes? I believe his real goal was to rule the only timeline where no Omnitrix was there. So there was no point in collecting other Vilgaxes.

In an alternate universe, (video game) Albedo actually DID turn into alien X but he was trapped as him for a year having to plead with Bellicus and Serena to let him go.

I think Ben 23 and Gwen 10 would be able to use the omnitrix's version of Celestialsapiens after enough experience and reasoning is earned through their own trials and tribulations. They are both still heroic at heart. Gwen and Ben are so alike besides their base work ethic and Gwen's perfectionist upbringing. Gwen, Grandpa Max, and even Kevin who showed restraint while going mad in UA would be suitable weilders for the most part in a fully sound mind. Ben 23 just was stunted a bit due to his lack of Grandpa Max, but even if he is more egotistical on a surface level. He became a hero, even if one who is a bit selfish, and he did still fight to save the multiverse, and didn't seem to be thriving mentally without Azmuth, Tetrax, and Six Six's help. But give it some years and he'll probably be more reasonable than a vast majority of other users. May I remind you that Argit even eclipses current Ben 23 in selfishness by a landslide?

Imagine if albedo used alien x

When the screen turned blurry I thought my lenses fell out

On the Alien X subject, how does Atomix work? Does he have the voices inside or is he free

"Nega Ben" 💀

The reason why ben is the only one with alien x? Welp because he was the good one at it.

3:15 said in a quick text; "Making Ben 63 The Prime Ben"

so basicly, ben prime is the only ben with a high enough spech stat to convence belicus and serena to do something.

so...coming back too this a year later i realised something. This video kind of rides on the fact albedo had alien X in his final state...but...he didnt. Albedo only has aliens that where present during ultimate aliens episode "double or nothing" and prior. The big bomb thing Albedo made too allow him too return too his galvan form was supposed too also let him transform into any alien in the ben 10 universe but because of the ultimatrixes interference albedos transformations only lasted a few seconds and he can only transform into the aliens ben had unlocked up too that point so that means albedo doesnt have any aliens from the Omniverse Omnitrix. But before double or nothing at some point Ben and Kevin made those weird keys too lock away alien X for safe keeping specifically too "Prevent albedo from accessing this one." So when albedos bomb went off he didnt have the celestialsapien transformation at his disposal. And the stabilizer only gave albedo ultimate aliens but didn't give him more dna samples (ben already had gravattack during ua just didnt use him). So video debunked since Albedo DIDNT have alien X and the other bens likely didnt unlock him at that point

Bro I haven't watched but guessing they can't use it because they can't convince their trouble voices

The closest thing we got to an alternate Ben using Alien X was through OV Ben 10K using Atomic X. Though it’s not the full sample of Celestialsapien DNA, it’s still a noteworthy mention.

this is like a spiderverse cannon event type deal

Well there is this new rebooted ben 10 movie were the villain was a evil ben stuck inside the aline x thats makes whole the arguments once again debatable!😬

He's the only one worthy of such power. The others aren't.

"making Ben 63 the prime Ben" that's the quick note that appeared between 3:15 and 3:16

For the record, I caught that that Ben 63 bulletin.

Ok so for people who didn't pay attention to the lore. When one turns into an Alien X. Their identities are divided into two consciousness. These contemplate every thought the host has ever had. The only difference is Alien X is capable of Manifesting these thoughts. For OG Ben Compassion and Reason are his greatest traits to be a hero. For these other Ben we don't know what their duality of consciousness. Also it would be incredible boring

Nah the Bens knew the fight would have been over real quick and the episode had to be 22 minutes long, so yeah.

4:01 there was also a Ben from the game “Ben 10 Alien Force: Vilgax attacks” who transformed into alien X. I am not sure if it’s confirmed, but some people say that this is a different dimension Ben, so maybe 3 versions

for those wondering the words that flash under the Taco Tuesday bulletin point are "Making Ben 63 The Prime Ben"

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"He's kind , thoughtful, and responsible," as the clip of him mind controlling his friends into fighting just for his enjoyment 😂

At 3:16 the text that pops up is “Making Ben 63 the prime ben” In case anyone was curious

I thought It was Pretty Clear? Bellicus and Serena might be too arrogant and careless but even they are wise enough to see through Evil. They simply wouldn’t allow any Evil Version of Ben 10 to use them.