Why is FRANCE betting on NUCLEAR ENERGY again? - VisualPolitik EN

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In order to guarantee France's electricity supply, become more competitive and achieve carbon neutrality by 2050, Emannuel Macron has just put France back in the race for nuclear development. The French nation, the country that is most dependent on nuclear energy, will build new reactors in the coming years. And that's not all, it is also fighting hard for the European Union to consider nuclear as a green and sustainable energy.
In this video we tell you all the details about France's recent bid to return to the atomic age.

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@johndoe-cd9vt
@johndoe-cd9vt 2 жыл бұрын
french guy here, we are not "betting again on it" we have never considered stopping it, we are not Germany, we don't want to rely on USSR... sorry, on Russia.
@Amaling
@Amaling 2 жыл бұрын
Good shit, Nuclear is soooo much better than shit like gas coal oil. And in the current there are places where we simply can't just use renewable energy, Nuclear works
@cte4dota
@cte4dota 2 жыл бұрын
That's why you rely on US who fu#ed you up many times especially with 57billon deal of Submarines. Great.
@johndoe-cd9vt
@johndoe-cd9vt 2 жыл бұрын
@@cte4dota excuse me, France relies on the US ? It's a joke right ? HAHAHHAH France is the oldest ally of the US AND the main competitor when it's about military sales... What happened to France since the Aukus deal ? at least 3 or 4 multi billion contracts with Rafale and other stuff and now India and France are Making a nuclear submarine deal and also a new Rafale contract. Ask youself why France called her ambassadors from the US and Australia but not UK... The real reason is because UK is also a customer, they have a pending order with France... (a boat...) I can tell you one thing, each time the Rafale wins, the US looses, they are always in the final round to win the contracts, but for Aukus, it' was 100% politic, the US don't care about the submarine deal, what they want is to be able to send their military assets in the Australian ports to be closer of China... Nice try, but you should do your homework better...
@cte4dota
@cte4dota 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndoe-cd9vt Whatever you say man, just worship ur bosses in US and do what they want and you will be cool, You where ally of Russia also? But you don't like them just coz US masters like it that way? Russians did nothing wrong to you.
@johndoe-cd9vt
@johndoe-cd9vt 2 жыл бұрын
@@cte4dota France is probably the country who likes the most Russia in Europe... In fact most of the other countries are scared of Russia, but France is not because: 1) She shares a long history with Russia 2) She is the only nuclear power in EU... BUT I hate what Germany is doing with Russia, she is too dependent and weaken the EU states.
@mrinsanity7
@mrinsanity7 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe even better question is - Why WOULDN'T France bet on nuclear energy?
@1968Christiaan
@1968Christiaan 2 жыл бұрын
Cost, waste disposal, battery development over the next 20 years...
@adamc2378
@adamc2378 2 жыл бұрын
@@1968Christiaan Waste? Mean the stuff that's still 97% fuel and can be recycled indefinitely?
@banana-vd7jm
@banana-vd7jm 2 жыл бұрын
@@1968Christiaan well I would rather store waste underground where it is unlikely to harm anyone then waste in the air that kills millions of people and tens of millions of animals per year.
@VFPn96kQT
@VFPn96kQT 2 жыл бұрын
@@1968Christiaan how much does it cost to have solar power station that can provide 1000-2000 MW of power 24/7 365 days a year in any climate?
@gasdive
@gasdive 2 жыл бұрын
@@VFPn96kQT well no nuclear plant meets those parameters. However a 3 GW continuous solar farm and storage that does meet those parameters is being built now in Australia (which has the climate and land) to supply Singapore (which doesn't). Cost is about 12 billion USD, so about 1/3-1/6 (depending on how you measure - capital costs only or life cycle costs) of the price of the same sized EPR plant being built in the UK, and its taking about 6 years, so 1/4 the lead time of the UK plant.
@IKEMENOsakaman
@IKEMENOsakaman 2 жыл бұрын
France's neighbor Germany's electricity bills are skyrocketing right now as we talk. Germany has stopped all nuclear power plants. France is on the right track.
@EdgelordOfEdginess
@EdgelordOfEdginess 2 жыл бұрын
The reason is that company don’t have to pay for the Energiewende, but the taxpayers
@miteshmistry25
@miteshmistry25 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear waste is a problem.
@ogedeh
@ogedeh 2 жыл бұрын
My neeeighbor is a horse
@vector6077
@vector6077 2 жыл бұрын
@@miteshmistry25 And there are solutions being reserched to make it easier to solve than the carbon emissions problem with traditional fuel... While being much much much more sustainable than both traditional fuel and renewed energy.
@vector6077
@vector6077 2 жыл бұрын
@@ogedeh Juan?
@MrIcetiger93
@MrIcetiger93 2 жыл бұрын
As a French i think that is the best news i heard for my country in ten years !
@davidturner4076
@davidturner4076 2 жыл бұрын
The world should follow France's energy example.
@MardrukZeiss
@MardrukZeiss 2 жыл бұрын
As a German I agree. European nuclear power would be a great benefit especially of we develop through reactors further.
@yuriydee
@yuriydee 2 жыл бұрын
I hope your country leads the way with Nuclear energy in the EU.
@achillezins6548
@achillezins6548 2 жыл бұрын
First thing I found nice about macron lol
@manhoosnick
@manhoosnick 2 жыл бұрын
Better news next year : Macron reelection.
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 2 жыл бұрын
Germany shut down nearly half of their reactors post Fukushima. Belgium is phasing their reactors out by 2025. Britain has under invested in nuclear power for decades. Austria built a reactor but never even used it. I am not strongly pro nuclear, but if we are going to achieve anything approaching carbon neutral, we are going to need more nuclear power plants.
@hummerskickass
@hummerskickass 2 жыл бұрын
At least Belgium is going to be replacing their reactors with newer ones.
@Karim94222
@Karim94222 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, Japan didnt
@rw-xf4cb
@rw-xf4cb 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Germany was so cocky that their renewables would save the day until the wind decided not to blow and the sunshine not be there at night (how dare it). Love how Germany is trying to say natural gas is renewable, unless they're going to tap into the German Reichstag - should probably be enough gas there to power half of Europe and while at it Brussels would be another NG rich site....
@prst99
@prst99 2 жыл бұрын
@@rw-xf4cb they have backed themselves into an illogical corner. Thus saying burning fossils fuels is environmentally sustainable. I hate when the environmentalists can’t accept reality and they contribute to the pollution just as much as non-environmentalists.
@Tanks_In_Space
@Tanks_In_Space 2 жыл бұрын
The Netherlands are gonna build 3 new nuclear plants too
@ahmadogidan4171
@ahmadogidan4171 2 жыл бұрын
I think France's decision to stick to nuclear is probably a good thing for them. Solar and wind aren't enough to meet our energy needs.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID
@greob
@greob 2 жыл бұрын
They would be enough if the politicians actually had courage and would enforce reforms and crack down on the wasteful consumption of energy done every single day.
@pros3795
@pros3795 2 жыл бұрын
@@greob so, on a dark winter day with almost no wind we should all live without electricity? Or maybe act like the Belgian Green Party and build more gas power plants
@colingenge9999
@colingenge9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@pros3795 Denmark is 84% renewable with zero problems and low prices..
@colingenge9999
@colingenge9999 2 жыл бұрын
When the free market creates power, it is SWS Solar Wind and Storage because that is the only way to make money on power. Regulated Utilities must sign 25 year contracts for gas that stifle innovation and they must run the plant even if they don’t want the power because their agreement says so. Free enterprise is buying batteries in Australia and getting a 50% return on capital each year and lowering power prices.
@blackchoas
@blackchoas 2 жыл бұрын
Classifying Gas as sustainable would be a joke, maybe give a special classification different from coal or oil but it shouldn't be given the same status as wind or solar. If you want an energy system built around renewables plus a nuclear backbone then you need to subsidize for that, if you treat gas like its perfectly equal to those others it will remain integral to the system.
@RafaelsFlix
@RafaelsFlix 2 жыл бұрын
RNG is sustainable.
@instanoodles
@instanoodles 2 жыл бұрын
and with all the gas leakage that happens in natural gas pipelines, natural gas is almost as bad as coal when it comes to greenhouse gasses. Methane is a much worse greenhouse gas compared to C02.
@RafaelsFlix
@RafaelsFlix 2 жыл бұрын
@alex bob agreed. Old gas plants are horrible. But if ur getting gas from natural waste products like spoiled food and landfills than its actually carbon negative.
@MrJesiah3
@MrJesiah3 2 жыл бұрын
@@RafaelsFlix Russia says otherwise...
@benjaminlamey3591
@benjaminlamey3591 2 жыл бұрын
well, there is no renewables without a toping possibilty able to compensate, and that is natural gas (or worse).
@dragosstanciu9866
@dragosstanciu9866 2 жыл бұрын
France is an excellent example for how the use of nuclear energy is good.
@shakiMiki
@shakiMiki 2 жыл бұрын
Have you actually watched the video?
@dragosstanciu9866
@dragosstanciu9866 2 жыл бұрын
@@shakiMiki Yes, I have. Nuclear energy is the future.
@myroslavnesysiuk730
@myroslavnesysiuk730 2 жыл бұрын
And Ukraine is an example of continuing to use nuclear power despite setbacks?
@frogg8891
@frogg8891 2 жыл бұрын
@@myroslavnesysiuk730 And, inevitably someone is going to come, pointing out problems, that only apply to old reactor designs...
@myroslavnesysiuk730
@myroslavnesysiuk730 2 жыл бұрын
@@frogg8891 uhhh. Don't remind. So many times
@theephemeralglade1935
@theephemeralglade1935 2 жыл бұрын
France is not, "betting", on anything. They have always successfully used nuclear power. One reason it has worked is because their designs are standardized.
@1968Christiaan
@1968Christiaan 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bet... that someone doesnt improve on battery storage in the next 20 years. That nothing unforeseen goes wrong... that somebody somewhere can bury all their waste and nothing will happen to it... AND that the budgets limits can be held. No modern nuclear power station has been built within budget... often many time more expensive.
@theephemeralglade1935
@theephemeralglade1935 2 жыл бұрын
@@1968Christiaan Battery storage will likely NEVER even come close to the energy density of fission, and that is without even acknowledging the fact that batteries are not a source of power. Yes, repositories will have to be built. Budgets can be blown when power is vital and global warming mitigation is more import. Anyone who thinks that the TERAWATTS of energy we need to maintain modern society will EVER be provided by renewable energy and storage does not understand energy production or energy density at all.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
@@theephemeralglade1935 Well SAID
@8BitNaptime
@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын
@@1968Christiaan ...what does storage have to do with generation?
@yeetdeets
@yeetdeets 2 жыл бұрын
​@@8BitNaptime Solar panels are on average more effective power generators. More modular, cheaper production, no fuel, etc. With perfect energy storage they would be way better than nuclear or anything else. Currently storage is not good enough though, incurring too large losses in storing and retrieving energy. But with the ongoing electric vehicle revolution, research into more efficient batteries is gaining massive funding, so it's only a matter of time. For context I'm currently pro-nuclear as well. Don't really see any drawbacks, and we can't wait 40 years for better batteries and solar to be viable. Wind pollutes too much aesthetically and kills birds etc. Whoever approved/subsidised wind turbines should be forced to live in wind turbine parks the rest of their lives.
@jeremysmith4620
@jeremysmith4620 2 жыл бұрын
France is betting on nuclear energy for the same reasons other nations should. Nuclear is by far the safest, cleanest, and one of the cheapest high yield energy options available to us at the moment. Decades of fossil fuel industries spending unfathomable sums of money to demonize nuclear energy in the press, advertising, and lobbying spaces have lead to a massive "not in my backward" attitude toward nuclear energy worldwide, but especially in the US. There is simply no clear path currently to transition off of fossil fuels without the further embracing nuclear power on a much larger scale.
@tiredox3788
@tiredox3788 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear power is cheaper and safer.
@1968Christiaan
@1968Christiaan 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear power is not, will not and has never been a financially viable option. There are great videos on youtube about the financing of nuclear power stations. Companies had to be given massive funding to start the projects, have not found ways to get rid of the waste.. and want to move out of nuclear as quickly as possible. Nuclear is the long term worse option next to "carry on with coal". This is a conversation about future energy security. Ask yourself this real personal question ... if you had a million dollars to invest... would you bet that a company can create cheap electric storage in the next 20 years... (Musk, Iron-Air, Liquid metal, Redox etc) or would you bet NO ONE can crack that and put your investment in a nuclear power plant ? This is why nuclear is no longer privately financed........
@lovelyhomeboy2782
@lovelyhomeboy2782 2 жыл бұрын
@Robert Groot they dont create as much energy tho and the reason why they arent being built is for political reasons
@aidegrod
@aidegrod 2 жыл бұрын
@Robert Groot Read about torium cycle. It didn't produce waste near at all, also current nuclear waste can be used as fuel for this type of reactors.
@aidegrod
@aidegrod 2 жыл бұрын
@@1968Christiaan Also read about toruim cycle, no waste at all.
@TheDrew2022
@TheDrew2022 2 жыл бұрын
The big issue with modern electrical demand is base load power demand, and you can't supply base load power with renewables like wind or solar, you need some form of high megawatt generation that can run steadily for long periods of time, right now that's either, hydro, nuclear, or fossil fuels. Hydro & Nuclear don't emit CO2 while fossil fuels, even natural gas, emit CO2.
@craigoutdoors30
@craigoutdoors30 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear also allows them to be more independent.
@alexties6933
@alexties6933 2 жыл бұрын
"you can't supply base load power with renewables" is just a wrong statement. Baseload power does not require huge powerplants nor plants who can run steadily for long periods of time. The components of your baseload just must be able to replace eachother within a short period of time. Since Solar and Wind are currently the cheapest electricity sources you want to use as much of them as you can. Wind is generally already a part of baseload. While solar is used to cover peak demand during the day it can also go down into the baseload replacing among others Hydro, which can then power back up once the sun has set. In the future baseloads will become even more dynamic since wind and solar have no fuel cost and supplying baseload with gas or coal, you have pay for, while solar and wind sit idle but could generate is just a waste of money. Also having high-megawatt single powerplants can even be something really legbreaking. When France has to, and i think they even currently are, shut down one or more nuclear powerplants, which can mean a output reduction of multiple gigawatts, thats a expensive hole to fill
@hendrikdependrik1891
@hendrikdependrik1891 2 жыл бұрын
You only forget one thing. Solar and wind energy is not being given to the people, but to big corporations. Eg the Netherlands allowing Facebook to build a datacenter so big it has the same amount of energy consumption as the entire city of Amsterdam. How the hell can we become carbon neutral if we're going to give >15% of our total energy supply to datacenters? Datacenters don't like nuclear energy, because that isn't green. So nuclear energy can provide baseload to the people without big corp snooping away the electricity.
@ricardoxavier827
@ricardoxavier827 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexties6933 france have mountain terrain and rain enough to replace all their nuclear power plants, using the storage system we already use. New river dams, can pump up back the water when the solar and wind produce above the demand, using that not used energy, to the dam produce again when the wind and solar are short. In that system we only need 2 dams in sequence to do the energy storage like a battery. One of the dams of course must be in a "dry" river base to allow that energy storage. We already have 2 new dams of that double fuction, builded conected to two old big river dams. Now we are building 3 new sequencial dams, in a river basin that was not enough to one old system dam, and in the mountains were we have more wind generation parks. The 2 upper dams has that double fuction, and the down dam are only for holding the water and produce energy if the upper 2 dams are releasing too much water.
@prst99
@prst99 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoxavier827 why is land development and hydroforming for power generation not considered pollution? Is carbon dioxide the only pollution that matters? I would consider digging, development of natural areas, diverting waterways large scale pollution also.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 2 жыл бұрын
france is smart thats why. they were loosing favour over the technology - but france seeing how the rest of europe crusify themselves over high fossil fuel prices... decided that the main reason for them having nuclear in the 1st place was still valid. france has no historic coal deposits or oil or gas. nuclear was frances way way out. also france has the highest air quality in the EU. 90% carbon free.
@davidbarry6900
@davidbarry6900 2 жыл бұрын
France also has the lowest CO2 emissions per person in the EU, due to nuclear power.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbarry6900 it gets even better. next gen reactor designs use previously disguarded waste as fuel. legacy nuclear could not extract the majority of the power in the fuel. next gen uses molten salts. no need to mine new uranium, 100s of years worth of fuel sitting stored at the nuclear power stations still.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 2 жыл бұрын
As president Giscard (in the context of the 70's oil crisis) said : "In France we don't have oil, but we have ideas" haha.
@plumebrise4801
@plumebrise4801 Жыл бұрын
In Fact ,France has the 7th best air quality in the World .
@AurediumRiptide
@AurediumRiptide 2 жыл бұрын
Here in the Netherlands the new government has planned the construction of two nuclear power plants. It will probably replace the one existing one. It makes sense as we are getting to the max capacity for windmills and resistance has grown in the populace for placing them. We also have a lot of solar power but our energy grids are reaching their caps as a result. Since the Netherlands has lots of fine-dust and other pollution due to agriculture being one of its pillars it makes sense to build nuclear facilities to close gas, coal and oil energy centrals to compensate for it. Certainly you can change your agriculture sector and we are ahead of the curve but its no where near enough and will take a while to shift it. Regarding Germany; they were just dumb. They closed their nuclear power plants and while they did place windmills, they also reopened massive brown coal mines and power plants. As an indication, brown coals is even worse then regular coals in its pollution and devastation for the landscape due to the way its mined. Yes a nuclear power plant is a massive disaster when it goes wrong. But when it goes right it does hardly any harm. Coal, oil and gas power plants kill people every day; but its largely hidden as it hides in things like cancer and other hard to trace conditions.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 2 жыл бұрын
Mark my word : in the next 10 years, Germany will go back on its decision, they recently went in deficit in their energy balance for the first time in decades. Especially if France and the Netherlands start to export nuclear massively to them, they will likely try to build SMR. But it's my opinion, their green madness will end eventually.
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Жыл бұрын
Are your fracking activities completely closed? Apparently you have huge natural gas resources ...
@AurediumRiptide
@AurediumRiptide Жыл бұрын
@@OmmerSyssel True, we are sitting on one off the largest reserved. Getting that gas causes a lot of quakes thou and it literally destroys houses and towns as a result so its not a viable source.
@StudioOnyx-fr
@StudioOnyx-fr 2 жыл бұрын
March 2022 - Looks like Germany was wrong on betting on gaz.
@giselasilva5415
@giselasilva5415 2 жыл бұрын
If the EU stop investing on fossil fuels and instead invest on renewable energy and nuclear, it will stop being dependent on other countries for energy production and become an example on the way forward on carbon neutrality. Macron is so right on his plans, hope France keep him as President 🇫🇷🇪🇺👍
@achillezins6548
@achillezins6548 2 жыл бұрын
You know that Macron let the Fessenheim close itself in 2020, right? He doesn’t have a clear opinion about anything, he is sometimes in favour of something and sometimes against that same thing. That’s why I wouldn’t vote for him in 2022
@SchnuckySchuster
@SchnuckySchuster 2 жыл бұрын
There are no known Uranium deposits in the EU to speak of.
@giselasilva5415
@giselasilva5415 2 жыл бұрын
@@SchnuckySchuster there are some in Spain and Portugal 😉
@SXcite
@SXcite 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you can't vote as uninformed as you are.
@danielzins2563
@danielzins2563 2 жыл бұрын
You really know nothing about Macron. He is full of contradiction. At the beginning of his campagn, he planned to shut down 12 nuclear reactor
@CoolChris-vn8hz
@CoolChris-vn8hz Жыл бұрын
Everyone laughed at France for their decision. Now, with everyone at the mercy of russian fuel lines, they've stopped laughing.
@midnattsol6207
@midnattsol6207 Жыл бұрын
Do you know where 50% of the fuel rods came from? take a guess
@anjuauroraprime2783
@anjuauroraprime2783 Жыл бұрын
@@midnattsol6207 Even if it comes from Northkorea, once you possess it, nobody can turn tap on or off at will... You have greater control for your energy security.
@rdormer
@rdormer Жыл бұрын
@@midnattsol6207 Do you know that stockpiling enough fuel for a decade or more of operation is trivially easy? Quite the stark contrast from gas supplies that have to be continuously replenished.
@marcwinkler
@marcwinkler Жыл бұрын
don't hold your breath for 25 -30 years.
@noah-ni3ee
@noah-ni3ee Жыл бұрын
Considering 2022, as a german, i am still laughing....
@blitz3391
@blitz3391 2 жыл бұрын
A very recent 2 years study has just been released about the topic of France's energy transition to more sustainable methods. It studied hundreds of different cases and took opinions from every possible actors to come up with 6 possible paths our country could take, based on a 2050 to 2060 horizon. Appart from 1 of the 6, which explains the cost of 100% renewable, all include nuclear power. I think the lowest ratio is 25% if i remember well, but the most "realistic" one would be around 50%. But something is clear; anybody promising our country being out of Nuclear energy by 2035 or before is a lunatic, and we have to start now our transition. An other detail about the EU energy classification is that there is also a very strong case made to have gaz as a "sustainable" energy, when we know it polutes almost as much as coal.
@xbreaker
@xbreaker 2 жыл бұрын
@Blitz Where can I find this study?
@0799qwertzuiop
@0799qwertzuiop 2 жыл бұрын
Gas emmits only half the Co2/kwh conpared to coal... The reason we use it because we don't need to import it
@sanders555
@sanders555 2 жыл бұрын
@@0799qwertzuiop And nuclear is 0%. If burning whale blubber only had half the emissions of coal would you endorse going back to killing whales for mankind's energy needs?Natural gas is still a limited, antiquated, non-renewable, carbon-based fuel that pollutes our air and water. So I'm left wondering what's your point?
@phineascampbell3103
@phineascampbell3103 2 жыл бұрын
Your English is great, and it's probably just autotype on your phone that spell it like this, but just in case it is one you're unsure about yet: With 'another' in English, you can't put 'an other' without having changed the meaning quite significantly. 'an other' is different to 'another.' 'Another' means additional/further, whereas 'an other' means an alternative/separate thing. The two words aren't just another way of writing the one word. Of course as with all languages there are exceptions! And I'm sure you already knew the meanings. But your English is so good I wanted to point this thing out in case it was one of those quirks of refinement that we can benefit from being told we've missed them. Sorry for the pedantry if it was only your phone distorting what you actually typed. This wouldn't surprise me, given how perfect your English otherwise was. 🙂
@0799qwertzuiop
@0799qwertzuiop 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanders555 well blubber is technically net 0 emmissions. My point is that Gas is a much better resource to use compared to coal. We currently can't supply all our energy needs with renewables so using Gas to plug the gap isn't that bad. Nuclear isn't a solution either because it won't be ready in time. The only other option is to not use as much energy wich is not going to happen.
@brightmal
@brightmal 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see France updating the existing systems with molten salt systems. Not only more power for less cost, but also the possibility of processing all of the waste into industrially useful products.
@bigcnmmerb0873
@bigcnmmerb0873 2 жыл бұрын
They use breeder reactors so they can reuse stored waste that they have, as smart as molten salt reactors infact the both of them are extremely good reactors either one of them is good
@Baamthe25th
@Baamthe25th 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigcnmmerb0873 French here. Dunno where you got that info, but we don't have breeder reactors. The last one we've built, Superphénix, which worked fine was shut down prematurely just as it got operational, because Jospin, prime minister at the time, thought it wasn't "economically viable". So it's getting dismantled... And there was another experimental project, Astrid, that got shut down recently too. Unfortunately, there isn't enough political Will anymore to really make headway with Nuclear, and there's a big political opposition from "Green" parties even in a Nuclear Bastion like France, which truthfully is managing to sabotage things. Well, people are starting to wake up to it, and now that other countries are interested in breeder reactors, people are starting to see we were 20 years ahead of the rest and we squandered it all to appease idiots.
@bigcnmmerb0873
@bigcnmmerb0873 2 жыл бұрын
@@Baamthe25th damn that's really unfortunate, as for the info couldn't remember whether it was Russia or France so just want with france instead lol so sorry bout that.
@davedobbschannel
@davedobbschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that we build nuclear power stations on fault-lines and tsunami hot spots to stop the hugely immense 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide in the air. We are estimated to make about three percent of that very large 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide that Earth's eco system is utterly dependant. The rest is spewing from volcanoes and the fault-lines they sit on. We ignore the monster storms that are generated by these massive volcanoes spewing these particles that the moisture condenses on and creates the super storms. And now we see long duration Volcanoes like La Palma breaking all the rules of any volcanoes we have seen going off in our history and we wonder why we see elevated levels of carbon dioxide? Unknown to most, Chernobyl went bang on the day of a massive Earthquake as did Fukushima. Now we see cancer rates rise amid endless altering of the safe amount of parts per million of radioactive particles permitted to accommodate the massive leaks from just 4 reactor meltdowns we know of over 35 years. Possibly about one percent catastrophic failure overall perhaps. Now we watch our loved ones die slowly of cancers. Not in pain as we have taken Afghanistan's opium to solve that problem. But they can die of our 'Green' choices and all their money can be drained off before their departure by medical and pharmaceutical corporations that can extend their early departure but still at great cost beyond just the hard cash. Perfect profiteering in what we have all perceived to be 'right wing' scenario but it's sold to us as a 'left wing' environmental agenda. I mean, come one: there is no right or left wing. There is just vulnerable human beings getting swayed by a political bullshit agenda that uses 'woke' bullshit to drive their profiteering business ideas and then buy legislation from politicians that push ruthless profiteering green agendas on us...by LAW. But Hay!! Good news, Bill Gates says he can get us to carbon zero with vaccinations. And the environmentalists all believe it. Doesn't it look like British Columbia is crying out for lots more nuclear power stations to be built on these flood plains. To SAVE THE WORLD...yeah!! Apparently we're going to build 16 new power stations to save Britain here in the UK! YEAH! It like the power station built near me at Hinkley Point in the UK. Literally built on the main tsunami hot spot of Western Europe. The last time the tsunami occurred was when La Palma last majorly erupted and the fault line that it sits on that runs out to the Mid Atlantic Rift that.likely caused the tsunami that dwarfed the Fukushima tsunami. But that the invisible wall of belief we hide behind so we can pretend we can't comprehend that. A good environmentalist knows he or she is good because of his or her beliefs. They are no different to Christians. They have taken Christ off the cross and stuck the Earth on it instead and now she's dying because of your sins. Let's face it, it's a lot easier to believe than you or me killing Jesus. All right I did it...I'll lay down my life in servitude. And if we believe our servitude makes us good to this nuclear fission obsessed carbon dioxide hating god then just like Christianity, we're good only by belief but totally toxic in reality which basically means heinous and utterly evil... Ring any bells? Until we see through our duality and realise we are merely being invaded by beings that run a system called 'belief' to control Humanity which is nothing more than an invasive entity that has its claws locked on to only one thing: you body and mind. Welcome to the invasion of the body snatchers...the believers. All the answers you are looking for are beyond belief now and if you can't cross that line then your time is all but done here on this plane. Because our beliefs are killing our world it has to let you go. We give it no choice. Time to take your shot. It's ok. You ready for your booster yet? The believers will be-lieving shortly. Go in hate, doubt and belief. Or stay in love. The problem we face is about to get solved once and for all. The solution to it all stares you in the face but you can't believe what you see. Some times you have to be honest with yourself and ask the real question you need to ask yourself: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING? Not me. Very interesting video. Thanks very much.
@SC-yy4sw
@SC-yy4sw 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigcnmmerb0873 yeah russia still has some SFBs online BN-600 and 800. Unfortunately, we closed down superphénix a while ago to appease "environmentalists". And also bc uranium is cheap.
@tonychen76
@tonychen76 2 жыл бұрын
Some places are lucky enough to have sufficient renewable energy resources to not need nuclear energy. If they then want to go all renewable, that's sensible. But for Germany to try to get a fossil fuel (natural gas) classified as "green" is extremely hypocritical.
@davedobbschannel
@davedobbschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that we build nuclear power stations on fault-lines and tsunami hot spots to stop the hugely immense 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide in the air. We are estimated to make about three percent of that very large 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide that Earth's eco system is utterly dependant. The rest is spewing from volcanoes and the fault-lines they sit on. We ignore the monster storms that are generated by these massive volcanoes spewing these particles that the moisture condenses on and creates the super storms. And now we see long duration Volcanoes like La Palma breaking all the rules of any volcanoes we have seen going off in our history and we wonder why we see elevated levels of carbon dioxide? Unknown to most, Chernobyl went bang on the day of a massive Earthquake as did Fukushima. Now we see cancer rates rise amid endless altering of the safe amount of parts per million of radioactive particles permitted to accommodate the massive leaks from just 4 reactor meltdowns we know of over 35 years. Possibly about one percent catastrophic failure overall perhaps. Now we watch our loved ones die slowly of cancers. Not in pain as we have taken Afghanistan's opium to solve that problem. But they can die of our 'Green' choices and all their money can be drained off before their departure by medical and pharmaceutical corporations that can extend their early departure but still at great cost beyond just the hard cash. Perfect profiteering in what we have all perceived to be 'right wing' scenario but it's sold to us as a 'left wing' environmental agenda. I mean, come one: there is no right or left wing. There is just vulnerable human beings getting swayed by a political bullshit agenda that uses 'woke' bullshit to drive their profiteering business ideas and then buy legislation from politicians that push ruthless profiteering green agendas on us...by LAW. But Hay!! Good news, Bill Gates says he can get us to carbon zero with vaccinations. And the environmentalists all believe it. Doesn't it look like British Columbia is crying out for lots more nuclear power stations to be built on these flood plains. To SAVE THE WORLD...yeah!! Apparently we're going to build 16 new power stations to save Britain here in the UK! YEAH! It like the power station built near me at Hinkley Point in the UK. Literally built on the main tsunami hot spot of Western Europe. The last time the tsunami occurred was when La Palma last majorly erupted and the fault line that it sits on that runs out to the Mid Atlantic Rift that.likely caused the tsunami that dwarfed the Fukushima tsunami. But that the invisible wall of belief we hide behind so we can pretend we can't comprehend that. A good environmentalist knows he or she is good because of his or her beliefs. They are no different to Christians. They have taken Christ off the cross and stuck the Earth on it instead and now she's dying because of your sins. Let's face it, it's a lot easier to believe than you or me killing Jesus. All right I did it...I'll lay down my life in servitude. And if we believe our servitude makes us good to this nuclear fission obsessed carbon dioxide hating god then just like Christianity, we're good only by belief but totally toxic in reality which basically means heinous and utterly evil... Ring any bells? Until we see through our duality and realise we are merely being invaded by beings that run a system called 'belief' to control Humanity which is nothing more than an invasive entity that has its claws locked on to only one thing: you body and mind. Welcome to the invasion of the body snatchers...the believers. All the answers you are looking for are beyond belief now and if you can't cross that line then your time is all but done here on this plane. Because our beliefs are killing our world it has to let you go. We give it no choice. Time to take your shot. It's ok. You ready for your booster yet? The believers will be-lieving shortly. Go in hate, doubt and belief. Or stay in love. The problem we face is about to get solved once and for all. The solution to it all stares you in the face but you can't believe what you see. Some times you have to be honest with yourself and ask the real question you need to ask yourself: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING? Not me. Very interesting video. Thanks very much.
@Chronomatrix
@Chronomatrix 2 жыл бұрын
It's wise to invest heavily on nuclear energy and research new technologies so we can safely dispose of nuclear residue. Also, instead of building huge nuclear plants it'd be much better to build small reactors, which are easier to maintain and dismantle.
@eclipsenow5431
@eclipsenow5431 2 жыл бұрын
Today's nuclear 'waste' is not a problem - but the SOLUTION to climate change! Feed it to breeder reactors and get 100 times the energy out of it! It's just a LIE to say waste is a problem. This 4 minute Argonne Labs video explains. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9J9d6eZtp-RoHk.html
@subumohapatra
@subumohapatra 2 жыл бұрын
I bet by the end of next 20 years SpaceX startship program would be sucessful and it would be wiser to dump all the waste on Venus. Additionally france can recycle and reduce the size of the waste.
@philipgeyer926
@philipgeyer926 2 жыл бұрын
Don't the smaller reactors produce more waste?
@acevaver5425
@acevaver5425 2 жыл бұрын
@@eclipsenow5431 Nuclear energy is extremely complex and you don't have the technical know-how to have an opinion on it. Don't jump on a bandwagon because some media influencer want you to contort to their belief.
@sanders555
@sanders555 2 жыл бұрын
@@acevaver5425 You could say that about literally any 21st century technology. I don't know what was said here that made you assume anyone's knowledge on the topic was just as lacking as yours, much less reach the conclusion they're on some influencer "bandwagon". I hate people commenting on subjects in which they have no grasp or real depth of understanding as much as anyone, but for you to post that kind of criticism here just makes it sound like you just have a chip on your shoulder and an uninformed, garbage interpretation of facts more than it makes you sound like any type of genuine, well-intentioned advocate for rational, better-informed opinions. You've contributed nothing to this dialog other than cultivating a distaste for you and your commentary from a large public audience.
@olderchin1558
@olderchin1558 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with democracies is that sometimes the dumbest part of your population is driving national policies.
@emilhuseynov6121
@emilhuseynov6121 2 жыл бұрын
In this case I think supporting the pro-nuclear faction would be the right choice. Don’t forget Germany receives its natural gas from Russia, hence dependency to Russian gas won’t be a good think for the future of EU.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
and thats only one of dangerous aspects of Energiewelte
@arnehofoss9109
@arnehofoss9109 2 жыл бұрын
Does it Mather where the gas come from?
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
@@arnehofoss9109 ecologicly, i does not, politicly, it does.
@davedobbschannel
@davedobbschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that we build nuclear power stations on fault-lines and tsunami hot spots to stop the hugely immense 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide in the air. We are estimated to make about three percent of that very large 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide that Earth's eco system is utterly dependant. The rest is spewing from volcanoes and the fault-lines they sit on. We ignore the monster storms that are generated by these massive volcanoes spewing these particles that the moisture condenses on and creates the super storms. And now we see long duration Volcanoes like La Palma breaking all the rules of any volcanoes we have seen going off in our history and we wonder why we see elevated levels of carbon dioxide? Unknown to most, Chernobyl went bang on the day of a massive Earthquake as did Fukushima. Now we see cancer rates rise amid endless altering of the safe amount of parts per million of radioactive particles permitted to accommodate the massive leaks from just 4 reactor meltdowns we know of over 35 years. Possibly about one percent catastrophic failure overall perhaps. Now we watch our loved ones die slowly of cancers. Not in pain as we have taken Afghanistan's opium to solve that problem. But they can die of our 'Green' choices and all their money can be drained off before their departure by medical and pharmaceutical corporations that can extend their early departure but still at great cost beyond just the hard cash. Perfect profiteering in what we have all perceived to be 'right wing' scenario but it's sold to us as a 'left wing' environmental agenda. I mean, come one: there is no right or left wing. There is just vulnerable human beings getting swayed by a political bullshit agenda that uses 'woke' bullshit to drive their profiteering business ideas and then buy legislation from politicians that push ruthless profiteering green agendas on us...by LAW. But Hay!! Good news, Bill Gates says he can get us to carbon zero with vaccinations. And the environmentalists all believe it. Doesn't it look like British Columbia is crying out for lots more nuclear power stations to be built on these flood plains. To SAVE THE WORLD...yeah!! Apparently we're going to build 16 new power stations to save Britain here in the UK! YEAH! It like the power station built near me at Hinkley Point in the UK. Literally built on the main tsunami hot spot of Western Europe. The last time the tsunami occurred was when La Palma last majorly erupted and the fault line that it sits on that runs out to the Mid Atlantic Rift that.likely caused the tsunami that dwarfed the Fukushima tsunami. But that the invisible wall of belief we hide behind so we can pretend we can't comprehend that. A good environmentalist knows he or she is good because of his or her beliefs. They are no different to Christians. They have taken Christ off the cross and stuck the Earth on it instead and now she's dying because of your sins. Let's face it, it's a lot easier to believe than you or me killing Jesus. All right I did it...I'll lay down my life in servitude. And if we believe our servitude makes us good to this nuclear fission obsessed carbon dioxide hating god then just like Christianity, we're good only by belief but totally toxic in reality which basically means heinous and utterly evil... Ring any bells? Until we see through our duality and realise we are merely being invaded by beings that run a system called 'belief' to control Humanity which is nothing more than an invasive entity that has its claws locked on to only one thing: you body and mind. Welcome to the invasion of the body snatchers...the believers. All the answers you are looking for are beyond belief now and if you can't cross that line then your time is all but done here on this plane. Because our beliefs are killing our world it has to let you go. We give it no choice. Time to take your shot. It's ok. You ready for your booster yet? The believers will be-lieving shortly. Go in hate, doubt and belief. Or stay in love. The problem we face is about to get solved once and for all. The solution to it all stares you in the face but you can't believe what you see. Some times you have to be honest with yourself and ask the real question you need to ask yourself: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING? Not me. Very interesting video. Thanks very much.
@canadiannuclearman
@canadiannuclearman 2 жыл бұрын
Being dependent on Russian natural gas now is the worst of times with invation of Ukraine by Russia looming
@faitero
@faitero 2 жыл бұрын
France is smart.
@dlewis8405
@dlewis8405 2 жыл бұрын
It is worth noting that if France spends $50 billion on refurbishing nuclear plants that is money that will be spent primarily in France.
@Lapantouflemagic0
@Lapantouflemagic0 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, and as long as those plants stay online, they keep generating money. add to that the cost of oil / coal we don't have to import to replace it and the math becomes abundantly clear.
@alexandervlaescu9901
@alexandervlaescu9901 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lapantouflemagic0 If you also add the fact that EVs are becoming more viable by the year , you can see why having a robush and energy dense generation system is important.
@dalel3608
@dalel3608 2 жыл бұрын
THIS Germany spends oodles of money on importing gas, France gets to keep every dime.
@collinwhites9833
@collinwhites9833 Жыл бұрын
That is also nuclear expertise that can be sold or traded to India as they develop nuclear plants and nuclear ships. India is moving into solar panel production so that is a relationship that can be mutually beneficial and a win-win.
@falxgod6848
@falxgod6848 2 жыл бұрын
Le German here. Our nuclear policy is dogshit. We need it to be independent of Russian Energy/Gas Market manipulation. Invest in fission and even more in fusion. ITER will be finished soon(tm). Hopefully, France will be able to get the nuclear classification and I personally hope that Berlin has to back down from gas. Gas might be better than coal but nothing beets nuclear if it's done right.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear FTW!
@Izingana
@Izingana 2 жыл бұрын
As a German; would you buy anything technological from France?
@Hepad_
@Hepad_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Izingana French engineering is one of (if not the) best in the world.
@Izingana
@Izingana 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hepad_ Enlighten me, please!
@ffffuchs
@ffffuchs 2 жыл бұрын
It's not going to happen. Germany will never back down from nuclear, not in near future. Current govt wiith greens defo won't. Which means even if a pro-nuclear party/coaliting wins in 2025, puts through legislative changes, the earliest date for *planning* a new German nuclear plant would be 2027, assuming typical timeframes meaning an online date of mid to late 2030s.... And who would build and run it? Germany relinquished its nuclear industry. Siemens sold off its reactor business in 2011. And at any rate, what party would advertise being pro-nuclear when 80% of Germans oppose it?
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 2 жыл бұрын
France has more reactor than any superpower, as a percentage of all power plants, and yet it managed to never had its Chernobyl / TMI / Fukushima / whatever happened in China. That's why we always look down on so-called superpowers. Just because you're big doesn't mean you're skilled.
@achillezins6548
@achillezins6548 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Also France invest quite a lot to avoid any disasters.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
@@achillezins6548 lets be honest here, whit exception of Chernobyl, (and dont know what and when in china you have in mind), TMI is not even worth mention, and Fukushima was not that bad, technology - even for 2nd generation of reactors- hold out most of it inside.
@achillezins6548
@achillezins6548 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianmarkovic5881 I think you wanted to respond to the other guy. I'm just saying that france spends a lot, just to aviod any disasters (almost half of it's nuclear budget)
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
@@achillezins6548 true, but overall it fits tread, another thing is current regulations made overpaying for nuclear safery, respectivly whit additional cost there are demminishing returns.
@achillezins6548
@achillezins6548 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianmarkovic5881 yeah France invest a lot in nuclear (a total of 176 billion € to be exact since 1945 and 80 billion € just for safety). It’s very expensive yeah but it’s economically profitable. France nuclear industry makes every year 20 billion €. The nuclear sector brings together 220 000 jobs and 2500 companies (source: EDF, IDE)
@lukat9702
@lukat9702 2 жыл бұрын
German green fundamentalists are no engineers...
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 2 жыл бұрын
French here, not really liking Macron, but it's his best decision in 5 year. 6 new reactors + 8 in the study.
@ChickenVeggi
@ChickenVeggi 2 жыл бұрын
despite popular perceptions Nuclear Energy is be very safe and will become infinitely more safer with new technology
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
I love more safe theory,....in fact we just paying 4x cost for chance of accident rate 10e-10 instead of 10e-8.....
@ChickenVeggi
@ChickenVeggi 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianmarkovic5881 Nuclear energy maybe costly to build but accounting for long term cost it can compete with fossil fuel on prices. Also new technologies like molten salt reactor can reduce cost even further
@coreymicallef365
@coreymicallef365 2 жыл бұрын
The simple answer... because it just works at scale unlike most of the other low carbon alternatives.
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 2 жыл бұрын
The d3mocrats made sure to stop America's use of nuclear power
@coreymicallef365
@coreymicallef365 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamescollier3 a glut of natural gas for most of the last decade has cushioned the effects of the current enegy transition in the US so they could ignore the problems emerging from not including a nuclear expansion in the grid but that's ending as we speak for quite a few reasons (underinvestment, increasing LNG export capacity, fewer financing options for natural gas projects, and a natural market correction). It'll be harder to ignore as prices rise and blackouts like those that occured in California and Texas this last year become more frequent.
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreymicallef365 and that the current administration is trying to go carbon free.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear FTW!
@mattturngain1238
@mattturngain1238 2 жыл бұрын
Most of that natural gas would have to come from the Russian Federation, right? Don't know if Europe wants to be more dependent on that. As I understand solar, hydro and wind energy will not be sufficient for the demand, so hard choices will have to be made one way or the other.
@vindicare9636
@vindicare9636 2 жыл бұрын
Guess what,the best Nuclear powerplants in the form of VVER-1200 comes from the Russian Federation as well
@SmokWawelski4D
@SmokWawelski4D 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear FTW! German Energiewende costs are estimated to be anywhere between 680 billion and ONE TRILLION € by 2030, and as of now even Ukraine emits half as much co2 per kWh than Germany; even costs of EPR pale in comparison to that and you could go much cheaper: Korean APR-1400 were/are built in UAE for a modest ~6 billion $. To put it in a different words: for the price of Energiewende we could decarbonize entire EU's electricity for 80 years - a period during which wind turbines and pv panels would have to be reinstalled 3-4 times, and we would still be burning gas.
@raituano849
@raituano849 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how much electricity you can produce, if their power grid system is not updated it wouldn’t work or atleast less efficient
@lorrygoth
@lorrygoth 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Canadian, we use nuclear power and I personally hope our homegrown SMRs are enough to cover the loss of our oldest reactor.
@markusz4447
@markusz4447 2 жыл бұрын
I get the argument of environmentally sustainable with nuclear.... but gas? come on...
@jorisderijck1779
@jorisderijck1779 2 жыл бұрын
guess they mean renewable created gas, there are some business channels in my country as well discussing that gas produced by fermentation of feedstock, or other reclaming processes of waste should be allowed to get certificates of renewablity so they can be competitive with gas of fossil origin on national, european and international markets
@Robbedem
@Robbedem 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorisderijck1779 I think they are talking about gas found underground. The reason is probably that they want to use gas power plants as a backup for solar/wind. Seeing solar+wind+gas as a single package, could put gas into the sustainable group. But while I understand their thinking, I don't think it's a good idea. Since to be sustainable, you need energy storage. Not a backup gas power plant.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robbedem Energy storage have problem, noone know how big it truly needs to be, and how costly it can become then, imagine batteries to keep country on for 2 weeks in winter,...
@eaaeeeea
@eaaeeeea 2 жыл бұрын
Four things that I think are good in the world right now: 1. France investing in nuclear 2. Small nuclear reactors' development being in full force 3. Finland's Olkiluoto 3 nuclear PWR was just switched on after over a decade of delays, with planned commercial electricity production in June 2022. 4. The fusion plant ITER being a massive international project, and the Tokamak components are already being installed
@paulrouth5997
@paulrouth5997 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely nuclear power plants will be required (as well as renewable energy sources and energy storage systems) to move away from coal, oil, and natural gas, but there are better ways of delivering nuclear power than through EPR reactors.
@inesis
@inesis 2 жыл бұрын
Germany: We ArE doOmeD BEcAuSE of cliMate cHAngE !! LET's BaN eVerYThinG !! France: Ok, the situations is bad but we have a practical solution. There is no need to plaster the Alps with wind turbines.
@shakiMiki
@shakiMiki 2 жыл бұрын
Almost as if you have failed to understand all the issues the video brought up. Always the problem with binary thinking.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
@@shakiMiki Nuclear FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@achillezins6548
@achillezins6548 2 жыл бұрын
When the Germans believe in something, they really do.
@davidlea-smith4747
@davidlea-smith4747 2 жыл бұрын
I had the privilege of performing some experiments at the ILL facility in Grenoble, which uses neutrons generated by a nuclear reactor. What struck me was the confidence and professionalism of the workforce there and how comfortable everyone was with nuclear power.
@harishankarknair995
@harishankarknair995 2 жыл бұрын
that is cool experience not gonna lie
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Жыл бұрын
Everyone is normally comfortable with even dangerous practices, until shit happens. Fukushima was such a case ...
@RS-ls7mm
@RS-ls7mm 2 жыл бұрын
Germany wants to consider gas as a green energy source and not nuclear? Someone has lost their way (bought by special interest).
@factnotfiction5915
@factnotfiction5915 2 жыл бұрын
Well, these are the guys that promised to keep coal until 2038 (until even their highest court couldn't stomache it and reduced the promise to 2030).
@mecha-sheep7674
@mecha-sheep7674 2 жыл бұрын
Gas is sold by Russia. Germany wants to open a new gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. In the 1970 and 1980, the Grünen and anti-nuclear germans had links with the USSR. I bet they are still "useful idiots" right now.
@Blake-Urizen
@Blake-Urizen 2 жыл бұрын
Fukushima's lesson = don't build nuclear power plants in seismically-active zones. Three Mile Island and Chernobyl would like to add that engineering has improved since '79 and '86. Uranium ores hasten to point out that they come from the ground.
@joechang8696
@joechang8696 2 жыл бұрын
the Japanese almost had it right in the Fukushima plant design, oh well. They knew ahead of time that having the diesel generators too low to sea level was the last risk, but didn't want to allocate the money to move them
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
Fukushima survived earhquake whit 5*, actualy, if it didnt have set automatic shutdown during earthquake it could use electricity produced to keep cooling going even after tsunami,... but honestly, it killed old power plant 10-15 years early, and caused complicated decommision, but overral it is nowhere as bad as media and antinuclear populist making it to be.
@woitika5983
@woitika5983 2 жыл бұрын
"Uranium ores hasten to point out that they come from the ground" bull's-eye :-)
@Mirion212
@Mirion212 2 жыл бұрын
The unholy PR and media alliance of environmentalists, oil industry, Russian/Chinese interests, pacifists, and the renewable lobby make the obvious solution to our CO2 issue politically unfeasible. Nuclear power plants are like trees, the best time to build one was 40 years ago, but the best available alternative is starting now. If only people would listen to those who actually know about the subject.
@oll9693
@oll9693 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear energy is need to build because we can achieve advance nuclear energy to promote space journey so we need build nuclear power plant to gain more knowledge
@StanZbornak
@StanZbornak 2 жыл бұрын
I think a barrier that many who would otherwise support nuclear energy is still cost. Or at least ignorance to the cost over time. The concept of keeping the grid at capacity when renewables are not available gets lost in translation as well. Like many good ideas, one of the biggest obstacles is that most people have no interest in a long form discussion explaining pros and cons. I’m for nuclear power expansion, but even I have many questions on the process of mining, ensuring supply, and disposal. Those are issues with answers but the problem is the lack of individuals who are interested enough to inquire. How much is gas/petrol on a given day? That is the only energy question I ever hear. I consider myself to be on the environmentalist side of issues more often than not, but why on God’s green earth would anyone think burning coal for another 40 years while we improve renewable technologies is a better environmental choice than reactors pumping steam during the same time. On an unrelated note, I don’t believe I heard the story comment on where Germany gets it natural gas.
@oll9693
@oll9693 2 жыл бұрын
@@StanZbornak nuclear plant need to build so we can gain knowledge for every plant we build so we can build advance nuclear energy by continuing reasearch and we can dispose waste
@StanZbornak
@StanZbornak 2 жыл бұрын
@@oll9693 I agree and hope to see the day humans perfect fusion reactors. But in the meantime we need to convince citizens to demand this from their governments. In the US I find people on all ends of the political spectrum with disdain or ambivalence towards nuclear energy expansion, further highlighting OP’s suggestion of an unholy alliance of strange bedfellows pontificating half truths and conveniently forgetting to expound upon cost over time and innovative disposable techniques.
@oll9693
@oll9693 2 жыл бұрын
@@StanZbornak practice makes man perfect capitalist not wait for result they need immediate energy but only nuclear energy bring renewal energy
@singhhimanshu0022
@singhhimanshu0022 2 жыл бұрын
We Indians are also shifting from coal to nuclear by the help of Russia, US and France
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 2 жыл бұрын
It can't happen soon enough. The sooner India has a clean reliable source of electricity, the sooner it's economy can go stratospheric.
@daniellarson3068
@daniellarson3068 2 жыл бұрын
India has a lot of Thorium.
@shadowpat810
@shadowpat810 2 жыл бұрын
@@skasteve6528 we are limited by the restrictions imposed by formation of NSG group Just wait till we can find a way around it and see our energy sector thrive
@bongdan
@bongdan 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowpat810 better build toilets first and educate people about condoms...l
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
well bigest help came from Cannada, Currently India made reactors are based on CANDU design,... Cannada was just unhapy that India used them for making nukes, but thats story for another day....
@matejkleni6295
@matejkleni6295 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest gamble in energy strategies among nations and my personal bet is that Germany will have to admit a defeat eventually. Because German strategy assumes wind and solar installed power about two times higher than peak demand (implies huge investment costs), lots of storage (for which there is no foreseeable technology to store energy in summer for the winter), lots of hydrogen hydrolysis plants (which have very poor efficiency and most hydrogen will be needed for vehicles and not to generate electricity again) and demand response (which may shift demand for a couple of hours, but is useless for weekly or seasonal shifting). All in all, this strategy has too many weak points to be considered as viable. What will Germans do in cold and calm winter nights? But we will see.
@TBFSJjunior
@TBFSJjunior 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree with your assessments on most points to be honest. The german (conservative/libertarian) government paid for a study 10 years age which answered all those questions and showed how Germany could be run on 100% renewables incl storage without the need of new technology (except a moderate learning curve) and without added cost to the system. Since then reality has shown that the learning curve in storage and renewable technology was underestimated by them by a lot. I could give you a break down if you are interested as I'm currently working on a presentation on renewables at my german university, for which I reread that old study and compare it with the current situation and give an outlook into the future. First of there is a negative correlation between wind and solar, so u have more wind at night and in the winter, which lowers the need for storage. Based on data for Germany over the last 10 years, the need for long term storage is much lower than first expected, but installed power has to be equal to peak power. We need massive amounts of hydrogen and synthetic fuel for heavy industry, ships/airplanes, and long term storage, etc. as there is no alternative. Luckily this is cheaper and ironically more efficient than nuclear. (Nuclear has an efficiency of around 33%, while hydrogen storage can be over 40%) I highly doubt though that hydrogen cars will ever be a sygnificant thing and even hydrogen trucks might never happen. 2 years ago I would have answered "I don't know", but if you look at the data coming in, I can't see any feasible pathway for hydrogen cars, while BEVs are already on their pathway to take over the market. (November we had more BEVs than Diesel cars sold in Germany.) On the other hand France has relyed on german coal power for 4 winters in a row now and around half of their reactors is due to be decommissioned in this decade. I doubt how they could replace 30 reactors in 10 years if their last reactor took almost 2 decades and 19bn to be build.
@olivierb9716
@olivierb9716 2 жыл бұрын
@@TBFSJjunior what you said is not totally true. generally, france import electricity from germany, but , in the same time,export the double for italie,spain and uk . france have a positive balance for electricity. and when you are talking about effeciency, what is the effeciency from a solar panel and a wind turbine ? rsponse 25 30 % max.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 2 жыл бұрын
Riot.
@matejkleni6295
@matejkleni6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@TBFSJjunior Admittedly, I don't know the details about German strategy - my impression is that it is politically driven in the sense - give me the best strategy without nuclear- and then this is what they came up with. It might work. But i have a PhD in electrical engineering and power systems and 20 years experience in energy regulation and some things don't look intuitive to me. Even some things you said above are looks dodgy. 1. You don't compare 33% thermal to electric efficiency with 40% electric to electric efficiency - these are apples and pears. Further 40% E2E efficiency with H2 is a dream, currently its more like 30%. 2. If you have installed wind and solar equal to peak demand and because average output is about 30% of installed, where do you get the missing energy to cover electric demand as well as to generate wast amount of hydrogen. In my intuition you need much more installed power than peak demand. 3. there may be more wind at night and in the winter on average, but there are seasons when this is not the case and then what? 4. My question on seasonal storage remains unanswered. The rest of what you say makes sense, but just to set the table: what is your profession and experience?
@matejkleni6295
@matejkleni6295 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivierb9716 France is indeed struggling in the past years with its nuclear fleet and sometimes indeed needs to import electricity in total. But this reflects the hard time (namely neglect) on nuclear industry over past 30 years. This does not mean these problems will persist. Nuclear has a much greater and feasible potential to close the energy gap than any other strategy. Probably the best mix is to have installed power 50-60% (of peak demand) that is available anytime (nuclear, hydro) and about 70-80% (of peak demand) of RES, and produce hydrogen when there is excess. But maybe you need much more.
@ProlificInvention
@ProlificInvention 2 жыл бұрын
"Its a hell of a way to boil water" Albert Einstein
@nickthesoldier7260
@nickthesoldier7260 2 жыл бұрын
I count more on nuclear and fusion energy(how "cool" will be to have the power of the sun) rather than wind, solar and hydro that too destroy animal enviroment
@chang-kp9sp
@chang-kp9sp 2 жыл бұрын
We need to admit that the current situation of renewable just unreliable . Solar and wind is depend on weather which is more and more rampant and unpredictable. We need nuclear power as energy backbone.
@eaaeeeea
@eaaeeeea 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. We need nuclear until we figure out cheap, safe, sustainable, and reliable energy storage. After we have that we can ditch nuclear for good and go 100 % hydro, solar and wind.
@singhhimanshu0022
@singhhimanshu0022 2 жыл бұрын
I love secularism of France btw nuclear energy is future for humanity
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
firs dying by Islamization of France, second, who know how thing will turned out in future.
@reallifehack4790
@reallifehack4790 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianmarkovic5881 will definitely be better than serbia for sure
@anhourofhonourforanhonesth2940
@anhourofhonourforanhonesth2940 2 жыл бұрын
"Why betting on Nuclear AGAIN?" The real question should have instead be some similar to the following: "How could public opinion and policymakers have turned their backs on Nuclear power so far, despite being that one the only scientifically proven alternative we have to address our energetic and environmental crisis in a far better way than unreliable, weather-dependent and heavily natural-resources-reliant renewable energies which are, by the science, never meant to be able to give the energy supply our modern civilization need - let alone the energy supply in the way our civilization need, which needs to be continuous and predictable, and not certainly intermittent and unpredictable - , and instead give their attention upon those last ones, disseminating wishful thinking about possibility of getting out of them 100% of our energy needs, when in reality leaving our global fossil fuels consumption unchanged over the last thirty years and wasting a huge amount of taxpayers' money uselessly which could have been far more better invested on proven and useful technologies capable of getting us safe from fossil fuels pollution and skyrocketing energy bills which are plaguing Europe and the US due to our needed reliance on natural gas which is the first consequence of being reliant on intermittent renewables?" To call this crucial question a "gamble" is a quite unchaste behavior.
@MrToradragon
@MrToradragon 2 жыл бұрын
Windscale Harrisburg Jaslovské Bohunice Chernobyl Monjun Fukushima A list goes ever on and on, until it reaches immense scale, list of plants that blow through roof, and where it ends I can not tell... (sung on famous tune from even more famous motion picture) That is one component, there were serious accidents and people don't like radioactive emissions in their back yards, don't like being forced out of their homes because something went wrong in power plant. Another component is that nuclear power will for ever be linked with military and nuclear bombs. As well by it's nature nuclear power is highly centralized and thus gives immense power to whoever controls those power plants and trust to corporations and governments is on steady decline from some 60's. And even if governments in Europe would be saint and never did anything bad, It would take just USA and their sometimes shady deeds to sow distrust in Europe. Their entertainment & news industry is so powerful. I would argue that rather than continuous power supply, that continuous power consumption, is the dream of owners of steam cycle based power plants (unlike hydro they suffer when power output must be suddenly changed), civilization needs on-demand power and best sources of this are hydro, system with batteries and "small" ICE units, NOT 1GW+ reactor blocks. BTW do you know that in some countries companies must send consumption plans to power companies and if those are not followed they must pay hefty fines? That is significant drawback of centralized power systems. As well you should take in account that nuclear power will be, for at least 20-25 years after construction, expensive, somewhere in range of 80€ (stated by source in ČEZ) to some 120€ per MWh (expected price from Hinkley Point C) and you have to add various fees and taxes, suddenly price form grid matches or is even higher, than power from consumer-side renewable power system which will provide stable price and, when paid out of pocket, will not suffer from effects of inflation, price from gird will, and their payback period is usually calculated for 10 to 15 years. Any power produced after that period costs the company only maintenance fo the system. Skyrocketing prices of gas in Europe have more complex causes than simple reliance on gas. One reason is Russian pressure on NS2, another are low stocks of gas after covid crisis. Some part plays less windy weather. Another small are high prices of CO2 emissions... Fossil fuels consumption can be changed, lowered, once we will start production of fuels. Price of energy form renewables - wind and solar - was already pretty low and around 2015 some project went as low as 20-30$ range in places like Saudi Arabia, this can already sent price of hydrogen per MWh, to regions of 50-60€/MWh, which is already below price of nuclear power and user side generated power can be quite reasonable.
@adamperdue3178
@adamperdue3178 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrToradragon You list all of those nuclear accidents, and besides Chernobyl, how many people have died from them? More people die DAILY due to effects caused by pollution from fossil fuels (not to mention the various accidents) than have died during the entire 21st Century due to nuclear. It's estimated that 36,000 people die per year in the EU and US alone just from coal, while the TOTAL death toll for nuclear power is less than 1,000 confirmed deaths EVER, and even the worst estimates don't even breach the 10,000 mark. Nuclear power outcompetes every other possible electrical generation's price point, except for the fact that people are so illogically terrified of it that governments impose massive amounts of redundant red-tape and 'safety measures', raising the price by absurd amounts. Saying that governments should avoid nuclear power because governments have made it too expensive to compete with solar/wind (which they've then subsidized) is a bit of a circular argument.
@Izingana
@Izingana 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamperdue3178 Illogical would be storing dangerous waste for 100.000 years! #itsAllAboutMeMeMeMe Illogical would also be the economics. Way too expensive for building, waste-storage and disasters…
@bencoad8492
@bencoad8492 2 жыл бұрын
@@Izingana its not even that, run it through a next gen molten salt reactors and its down to 300 years with a 95%+ burn up compared to solid fueled reactors of ~1% burn up.. it depends on the reactors type you use.
@Izingana
@Izingana 2 жыл бұрын
@@bencoad8492 Stop repeating! You sound like an add..
@Akshay_p_kumar
@Akshay_p_kumar 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, Just last week India's government has given approval to build a new nuclear plant in partnership with French EDF. Land has already been acquired from farmers. It will have 6 EPR reactors and will produce more than 9000 Mw of electricity once its construction is completed
@benghazi4216
@benghazi4216 2 жыл бұрын
A fun fact. In France the French nuclear companies are hounded by regulators for their mistakes. In China, the same French nuclear companies are forced to go public world wide because the Chinese regulators aren't responding to dangerous signs. And China haven't had a serious accident yet, and they run 50 of them. Nuclear energy is pretty safe to me.
@andrewlambert7246
@andrewlambert7246 2 жыл бұрын
It isnt a gamble with those prices and long building timelines for their reactors. Two things are of vital importance in nuclear industry. 1. Safety. 2. Price 3. Building time.
@owennilens8892
@owennilens8892 2 жыл бұрын
"Why is France BETTING on nuclear again"???? Don't you mean relying rather than betting? You make it sound like they're choosing uncertainty...
@samuelstroh8631
@samuelstroh8631 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear has always and will always be the future, the power density ratio has no match.
@tomkelly8827
@tomkelly8827 2 жыл бұрын
If the land that a nuclear power plant is on was covered with solar panels, including the setback allowances, Solar would produce more power from the same amount of land. Also people can live there, they can build their homes under the solar panels, their garden shed can be covered in solar panels. The cost for the solar installation is much lower then actual nuclear build costs and no radioactivity is released.
@daszek8160
@daszek8160 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkelly8827 but it doesn't work when is cloudy and at night.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkelly8827 it is nice dream,.. but lavs of physic are aginst you. You are also ignoring a hellot of toxic materials used in those solar panels.
@Ezpazmic
@Ezpazmic 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkelly8827 nope. It's the exact opposite. Solar would require way more land than a nuclear plant to produce the same amount of power.
@stephenhoughton632
@stephenhoughton632 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkelly8827 Anywhere north of Chicago, solar is carbon positive.
@informationcollectionpost3257
@informationcollectionpost3257 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much majored in Energy production way back in 1987 for an engineering bachelors degree and worked briefly in the nuclear industry as a draftsman. Never used that knowledge and ended up in the design of heavy machinery so I should be knowledgable but not an expert. They didn't need energy production engineers in the late 1980's and early 1990's. At least that is what they thought. The biggest two problems with nuclear energy is cost and long lived nuclear waste. Today's reactors are much safer than the reactors in the 1980's but most are still producing long lived wastes and that includes the SMR. SMR's may cost less to produce and then perhaps not as you have to produce more of them. At least SMR's would allow you to spread your costs over a longer time period. Molten salt reactors require no containment vessels and are best produced as a SMR or on a factory assembly line. They have no pressure on the reactor parts and therefore can be designed with a lot less material. All this adds up to lower costs but salts are very corrosive and the only parts that can withstand this corrosion are expensive nickel based alloys. Using thorium as a fuel not only uses a very abundant nuclear fuel but can be breed to U233 which can be used in future reactor runs. The reactor can burn most of its waste to produce more electric and reduce its waste down to a storage life of 300 to 400 years verses 10,000 years for our current reactors. The biggest problem is clear, we never developed this reactor because most countries wanted to breed fuel that could be used for nuclear weapons. Thorium based reactors can not breed fuel suitable for nuclear weapons. It is going to take a few more years to develop a salt based thorium fueled reactor. NG based plants have been made as combined cycle plants with up to around 50 to 60% efficiency. They not only require a lot less fuel but should have very low CO2 emissions. As far as methane emissions go most of your methane emissions are from the heating of rotten plant matter in the Boreal and Actic regions, not from gas industry pipelines. Even if you don't view combined cycle NG power plants as ideal; they are at least a start in solving the problem until something better is developed. Whatever is decided make sure the plants are combined cycle and not single generation cycle plants that are lower in efficiency.
@olivierb9716
@olivierb9716 2 жыл бұрын
thorium reactor and molten salt reactor are just a project. a lot of solutions needs to be found. and the u 233 is a very radioactiv material and can be use for atomic bombs
@informationcollectionpost3257
@informationcollectionpost3257 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivierb9716 The idea is to fission the U233 for further energy production and then dispose of the waste. As far as removing it from the reactor's salts I have heard that it is quit difficult but I am not an expert. As far as experimental, yes only Oak Ridge has run one experimental reactor or this type. The research looked very promising but looking promising & being feasible are two different things. All I am saying is that it should be worth the small amount of research needed to find out more about this reactor.
@informationcollectionpost3257
@informationcollectionpost3257 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivierb9716 plutonium is extremely toxic and you have to breed fuel to make nuclear a long term energy solution.
@theodor4943
@theodor4943 2 жыл бұрын
France betting on nuclear once again, marks a shift in European climate policy
@bobthegoat7090
@bobthegoat7090 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the EU is actually putting natural gas and nuclear energy in the same group. One is environmentally stable and the other is environmentally devastating.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
Germany us betting on Gas as backup,.. there is no wonder that this nonsence is going trouth EU,...
@Baamthe25th
@Baamthe25th 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Gaz is still progress compared to coal. It emits half the CO2 I agree that it's bullshit compared to nuclear that essentially emits nothing.
@bobthegoat7090
@bobthegoat7090 2 жыл бұрын
@@Baamthe25th Unfortunately, the transportation requirements mean that natural gas lifecycle emissions are 47% higher than the direct emissions at the site of consumption. Plus leakage is a big problem and as much of the natural gas is methane it is an even bigger problem as that causes 4 times the greenhouse effect as CO2 does. It also releases Nitrous Oxide. Source: Sorry, KZfaq won't let me put a link in my comment even if I use [dot]
@davedobbschannel
@davedobbschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that we build nuclear power stations on fault-lines and tsunami hot spots to stop the hugely immense 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide in the air. We are estimated to make about three percent of that very large 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide that Earth's eco system is utterly dependant. The rest is spewing from volcanoes and the fault-lines they sit on. We ignore the monster storms that are generated by these massive volcanoes spewing these particles that the moisture condenses on and creates the super storms. And now we see long duration Volcanoes like La Palma breaking all the rules of any volcanoes we have seen going off in our history and we wonder why we see elevated levels of carbon dioxide? Unknown to most, Chernobyl went bang on the day of a massive Earthquake as did Fukushima. Now we see cancer rates rise amid endless altering of the safe amount of parts per million of radioactive particles permitted to accommodate the massive leaks from just 4 reactor meltdowns we know of over 35 years. Possibly about one percent catastrophic failure overall perhaps. Now we watch our loved ones die slowly of cancers. Not in pain as we have taken Afghanistan's opium to solve that problem. But they can die of our 'Green' choices and all their money can be drained off before their departure by medical and pharmaceutical corporations that can extend their early departure but still at great cost beyond just the hard cash. Perfect profiteering in what we have all perceived to be 'right wing' scenario but it's sold to us as a 'left wing' environmental agenda. I mean, come one: there is no right or left wing. There is just vulnerable human beings getting swayed by a political bullshit agenda that uses 'woke' bullshit to drive their profiteering business ideas and then buy legislation from politicians that push ruthless profiteering green agendas on us...by LAW. But Hay!! Good news, Bill Gates says he can get us to carbon zero with vaccinations. And the environmentalists all believe it. Doesn't it look like British Columbia is crying out for lots more nuclear power stations to be built on these flood plains. To SAVE THE WORLD...yeah!! Apparently we're going to build 16 new power stations to save Britain here in the UK! YEAH! It like the power station built near me at Hinkley Point in the UK. Literally built on the main tsunami hot spot of Western Europe. The last time the tsunami occurred was when La Palma last majorly erupted and the fault line that it sits on that runs out to the Mid Atlantic Rift that.likely caused the tsunami that dwarfed the Fukushima tsunami. But that the invisible wall of belief we hide behind so we can pretend we can't comprehend that. A good environmentalist knows he or she is good because of his or her beliefs. They are no different to Christians. They have taken Christ off the cross and stuck the Earth on it instead and now she's dying because of your sins. Let's face it, it's a lot easier to believe than you or me killing Jesus. All right I did it...I'll lay down my life in servitude. And if we believe our servitude makes us good to this nuclear fission obsessed carbon dioxide hating god then just like Christianity, we're good only by belief but totally toxic in reality which basically means heinous and utterly evil... Ring any bells? Until we see through our duality and realise we are merely being invaded by beings that run a system called 'belief' to control Humanity which is nothing more than an invasive entity that has its claws locked on to only one thing: you body and mind. Welcome to the invasion of the body snatchers...the believers. All the answers you are looking for are beyond belief now and if you can't cross that line then your time is all but done here on this plane. Because our beliefs are killing our world it has to let you go. We give it no choice. Time to take your shot. It's ok. You ready for your booster yet? The believers will be-lieving shortly. Go in hate, doubt and belief. Or stay in love. The problem we face is about to get solved once and for all. The solution to it all stares you in the face but you can't believe what you see. Some times you have to be honest with yourself and ask the real question you need to ask yourself: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING? Not me. Very interesting video. Thanks very much.
@zzzz5695
@zzzz5695 2 жыл бұрын
and German betting on Nord Stream 2 (Putin) lol
@86samsky
@86samsky 2 жыл бұрын
Well they export energy to half of Europe's major economies. We need more to hit climate goals set for 10 years or so. France has successfully done nuclear for decades. This is a slight no brainer
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Nuclear FTW!
@cte4dota
@cte4dota 2 жыл бұрын
Russians already build small reactors, floating on water used to power up remote regions.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
and meanwhile building big reactors on the ground,.... clearly, there is place for both technologies.
@rogeronslow1498
@rogeronslow1498 2 жыл бұрын
France is building more nuclear power stations because it is the logical thing to do. They cost a lot more to build than a coal power station but after about 8 years they break even and then are much cheaper to run until their end-of-life.
@hkchan1339
@hkchan1339 2 жыл бұрын
Natural gas is not cheap and you will be under the thumb of Russia. It’s also emitting a lot of CO2 as it’s ultimately a carbon fuel.
2 жыл бұрын
There is still reserves off the shore of Holland, and France buys its gas from Algeria and Egypt as well as Holland as previously said. The advantage with gas is that you can make combined cycles power plants (a gas turbine producing electricity with the exhaust heat directed to boil water that will too spin a steam turbine). However, it's indeed still a carbon fuel and that will fuck up the climate and ocean water pH
@kolerick
@kolerick 2 жыл бұрын
about the taxonomy: if they simply did tax the CO2 emitted while building, operating and dismantle of the various plants, it would be fair... let's not forget to include the CO2 emitted abroad for the imported parts and fuel...
@denniswong2068
@denniswong2068 2 жыл бұрын
Macron: Finally I can eat macaron when the rest of Europe is in panic.
@DirectorJK
@DirectorJK 2 жыл бұрын
And where Berlin's gas coming from? Haha better nuclear then
@pweb4941
@pweb4941 2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that more havent realised that Nuclear is the future. It was a contestable statement when cheap coal was beig used. But now, taking coal off the table and with the insanely accelerated targets , Nuclear is essential. Oh by the way, the numbers being mentioned are miniscule compare to the cost of covid
@ffffuchs
@ffffuchs 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a coincidience. Cost overruns, delays and plethora of issues plague most nuclear projects. The EPR is a shitshow, Finland's new EPR is 12 years over schedule and €10 billion over vost. Even in China 3/4 of their reactors suffered delays. Or the fact right now 1/3 of French nuclear capacity is offline for maintanace due to a recently found problem affecting same reactor types. Or look at the mismanagement of the American Vogtle Plant's new AP1000s. Hell, even back in golden age of 70s new US reactors constantly faced serious issues and overruns. And yeah right now with high energy prices nuclear looks attractive, but it wasn't the case just a few years before when cheap gas and renewables seriously undercut nuclear's profitability. Much, much more can be said on the matter, but to sum it up nuclear energy has many reasons why it failed to reach the promises it once had, and saying greens and chernobyl/fukushima is responsible (while partially true) covers up the responsibility of the nuclear industry's poor management and the financial aspect.
@pweb4941
@pweb4941 2 жыл бұрын
@@ffffuchs you make it sound like the alternative has no problems. But look at germany, they have shut down their nuclear industry, and their carbon footprint has gone up. Because they fill the gap with carbon based generation eg gas. Or they import frances electricity which is nuclear. They have spent 100s of billions on green tech and they still are at a low % of total generation. Solar is marginal in europe, wind is not- yet there is a problem when there is no wind. What is your solution?
@ffffuchs
@ffffuchs 2 жыл бұрын
@@pweb4941 mix of nuclear and renewables with some countries having more in some, plus some storage and finally some gas for a short while as a bridg.e
@pweb4941
@pweb4941 2 жыл бұрын
@@ffffuchs Nord stream 2 is not a bridging solution though is it?
@ffffuchs
@ffffuchs 2 жыл бұрын
@@pweb4941 NS2 is primarily geopolitical projects with its own slew of issues.
@TheRareVideosXL
@TheRareVideosXL 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video yet again.
@exponentmantissa5598
@exponentmantissa5598 2 жыл бұрын
What I hear from most governments including my own here in Canada is that they will meet certain goals in the future but they have no plan to get there. They want to attack carbon at every chance but yet they continue to push natural gas. I am an electrical engineer with 41 years experience. Nuclear, especially SMRs is the way to go. It is cost efficient and completely calculable. One thing that renewables suffer from is that they generate the power away from where it is needed and there are significant losses. SMRs can go anywhere. IN Canada's arctic they burn diesel for electricity, that is really ugly from an emissions perspective, a SMR fixes that. The only way to solve the energy puzzle is nuclear in combination with renewables. The arguments against it hold little weight and are mostly political as in the case with Germany. One more thing, anyone that thinks that solar and wind turbines have a small ecological footprint should take the time to research the lifetime of these sources and they will se they are nowhere near as green as they think.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
SMRs made sence in Canada, whit a lot off grid communities, in central Europe, whit well developed Grid based on big central sources, bigger plants made more sence. moreover in times when SMR are still in development phase, while big reactors are aviable for construction.
@Amaling
@Amaling 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you France, VERY cool. Hope the rest of EU at least partially follows. A good mix of renewable and nuclear energy makes the most sense for our current and near future technology
@davedobbschannel
@davedobbschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that we build nuclear power stations on fault-lines and tsunami hot spots to stop the hugely immense 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide in the air. We are estimated to make about three percent of that very large 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide that Earth's eco system is utterly dependant. The rest is spewing from volcanoes and the fault-lines they sit on. We ignore the monster storms that are generated by these massive volcanoes spewing these particles that the moisture condenses on and creates the super storms. And now we see long duration Volcanoes like La Palma breaking all the rules of any volcanoes we have seen going off in our history and we wonder why we see elevated levels of carbon dioxide? Unknown to most, Chernobyl went bang on the day of a massive Earthquake as did Fukushima. Now we see cancer rates rise amid endless altering of the safe amount of parts per million of radioactive particles permitted to accommodate the massive leaks from just 4 reactor meltdowns we know of over 35 years. Possibly about one percent catastrophic failure overall perhaps. Now we watch our loved ones die slowly of cancers. Not in pain as we have taken Afghanistan's opium to solve that problem. But they can die of our 'Green' choices and all their money can be drained off before their departure by medical and pharmaceutical corporations that can extend their early departure but still at great cost beyond just the hard cash. Perfect profiteering in what we have all perceived to be 'right wing' scenario but it's sold to us as a 'left wing' environmental agenda. I mean, come one: there is no right or left wing. There is just vulnerable human beings getting swayed by a political bullshit agenda that uses 'woke' bullshit to drive their profiteering business ideas and then buy legislation from politicians that push ruthless profiteering green agendas on us...by LAW. But Hay!! Good news, Bill Gates says he can get us to carbon zero with vaccinations. And the environmentalists all believe it. Doesn't it look like British Columbia is crying out for lots more nuclear power stations to be built on these flood plains. To SAVE THE WORLD...yeah!! Apparently we're going to build 16 new power stations to save Britain here in the UK! YEAH! It like the power station built near me at Hinkley Point in the UK. Literally built on the main tsunami hot spot of Western Europe. The last time the tsunami occurred was when La Palma last majorly erupted and the fault line that it sits on that runs out to the Mid Atlantic Rift that.likely caused the tsunami that dwarfed the Fukushima tsunami. But that the invisible wall of belief we hide behind so we can pretend we can't comprehend that. A good environmentalist knows he or she is good because of his or her beliefs. They are no different to Christians. They have taken Christ off the cross and stuck the Earth on it instead and now she's dying because of your sins. Let's face it, it's a lot easier to believe than you or me killing Jesus. All right I did it...I'll lay down my life in servitude. And if we believe our servitude makes us good to this nuclear fission obsessed carbon dioxide hating god then just like Christianity, we're good only by belief but totally toxic in reality which basically means heinous and utterly evil... Ring any bells? Until we see through our duality and realise we are merely being invaded by beings that run a system called 'belief' to control Humanity which is nothing more than an invasive entity that has its claws locked on to only one thing: you body and mind. Welcome to the invasion of the body snatchers...the believers. All the answers you are looking for are beyond belief now and if you can't cross that line then your time is all but done here on this plane. Because our beliefs are killing our world it has to let you go. We give it no choice. Time to take your shot. It's ok. You ready for your booster yet? The believers will be-lieving shortly. Go in hate, doubt and belief. Or stay in love. The problem we face is about to get solved once and for all. The solution to it all stares you in the face but you can't believe what you see. Some times you have to be honest with yourself and ask the real question you need to ask yourself: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING? Not me. Very interesting video. Thanks very much.
@Amaling
@Amaling 2 жыл бұрын
@@davedobbschannel are you ok?
@Gastyz
@Gastyz 2 жыл бұрын
When accounting for mining, production, transportation and installation, solar panels have a similar carbon footprint per kilowatt as gas. Fourth generation nuclear power plants already exists and can use nuclear waste. Total nuclear waste produced to date is about 400000 metric tons, plastic waste on the other hand is 8 billions, thats 25000 times more. Clearly nuclear waste is not a big deal.
@billpetersen298
@billpetersen298 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, solar panels are made in Xinjiang. So not, humanely sustainable.
@marcwinkler
@marcwinkler 2 жыл бұрын
Plastic waste irradiating the f planet.
@davidbarry6900
@davidbarry6900 2 жыл бұрын
@@billpetersen298 Also, solar panels will not necessarily be available, if anything happens to crash China or sour international relations.
@bradgardner4299
@bradgardner4299 Жыл бұрын
I wish Australia would go nuclear power generation.
@Danne1886
@Danne1886 2 жыл бұрын
With the technology available today, and the current power shortages from renewables and depending on Russia, it's hardly a gamble. The oil and coal industries have done a hell of a job demonizing nuclear, but it's always been our future.
@thefoundingtitanerenyeager2345
@thefoundingtitanerenyeager2345 2 жыл бұрын
Yea all nuclear power plants used today were first designed in the 70s and 80s and are still better in almost every way than even renewables and there the only clean energy source that’s actually cheaper than gas and coal without major tax cuts and subsidies and if we’re able to implant Molten Salt Reactors they’ll be able to produce even more energy for less cost
@hirkstein6259
@hirkstein6259 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 useful life of 40 years... who says that? We have an independant body controlling safety of nuclear installation in France, ASN (Autorité de la Sûreté Nucléaire), which tells you black on white that nuclear reactors don't have set lifetimes, and that since they are constantly monitored, they can be exploited as long as its deemed safe by it. That does mean that we will need to invest in new nuclear powerplants, and R&D into 4th gen nuclear technology, but that's mainly to lower the usage of uranium per electricity produced. Today, if we replaced all gas and coal powerplants with nuclear powerplants, there would only be enough uranium for 100 to 200 years of electricity generation (with constant power production), but with the the 4th generation, that usage can be extended to up to 2000 years, leaving us more than enough time to kill ourselves any other ways than power outages.
@chrisb9143
@chrisb9143 2 жыл бұрын
The price of producing 1 MWh (1MW × 1hour) of electricity with a nuclear power plant is around 45 € (all costs included) With the current prices, you sell that MWh between 300€ and 500€, and we can produce about 50 GW. Guess why we want more
@stupidburp
@stupidburp Жыл бұрын
It would be great if France, Germany, UK, USA, Japan, Australia, and India could collaborate on a new standard reactor fuel. Ideally this might be HALEU TRISO fuel enriched to 18%. This could be used in new built civilian power plants and some military reactors. This would be more efficient, generate less waste, require less frequent refueling, and have greater safety via resistance to heat damage.
@roberteischen4170
@roberteischen4170 2 жыл бұрын
Is it a gamble though? Been a stable and reliable source of power for them for years now.
@Daniel-gs9eh
@Daniel-gs9eh 2 жыл бұрын
natural gas as environmentally suitable what a joke. and then to oppose nuclear 😂😂
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 2 жыл бұрын
Good, interesting and informative stuff.
@8bitorgy
@8bitorgy 2 жыл бұрын
How about a video about the environmental impact of mining uranium and refining it?
@duarteandrade7880
@duarteandrade7880 2 жыл бұрын
this isn't exactly a bet of France, it should be an European bet... France is geographically suited for nuclear production, in a European scale. They have the industry, they are in conditions to benefit from economies of scale, and the EU actually needs baseload solutions and diversified options for enegy generation. Nuclear is the definitive option for baseload energy production. The EPR problems is somewhat the result of 30 year of disinvestment in the nuclear energy. The SMR solution is probably the way to go in cost effectiveness, but if France is able to make the EPR cost effective, I believe no one in Europe would be unhappy with that, because, almost every European Country end up depending on France's energy production. To Classify Natural Gas as a sustainable energy source, is an absolute nonsense. We're watching an increasing dependency on Natural Gas provided by Russia, and I believe no one in the UE would be willing to be held hostage on Russian Natural Gas. It actually amazes me that Germany is still pushing for Natural Gas (as it amazed me the decision to shut down all nuclear reactors in Germany and replace them with lignite, witch was probably an even worse decision), but hey, I'm sure there are a lot of German companies that produce solutions for simple and combined cycle natural gas power plants, but that's a little bit short sighted... We're all watching this very what's happening with the Natural Gas prices around Europe, and the supply issues aren't likely to be solved soon. The push for less CO2 emissions is also likely to continue, as well as the energy requirements, for the electrification of the transport sector, and also for Hydrogen production (because it's seems that the EU is favorable to use Hydrogen as an energy source - It doesn't seem that good idea to me, but that's another subject)... If The EU doesn't qualify Nuclear as a sustainable energy source, we're just shooting ourselves in the foot. And if Natural Gas ends up classified as sustainable, it would be probable the most hypocritical and contradictory decision we've taken in the last decades.. Just my 2 cents
@dpie4859
@dpie4859 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@ianross225
@ianross225 2 жыл бұрын
A wise man once said: “nuclear power is the least bad option” . It’s way past the time when we should have invested in nuclear but further dithering is not an option as perfectly demonstrated by the crisis on gas prices and it’s effect on western economies plus emboldening crooks like Putin. Wind and solar don’t cut it. They can’t no matter how “green” you are.
@DanielBrotherston
@DanielBrotherston Жыл бұрын
If the EU defined natural gas but not nuclear as a green energy source, then they'd lose all credibility.
@DwaynedPearce
@DwaynedPearce 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what happened with this Channel but for some reason it seems like the writers assume it's audience doesn't know anything. They ask questions in the script on the audience's behalf like we are middle school students.
@bobanundson9247
@bobanundson9247 2 жыл бұрын
From the beginning of the climate panic, I have taken the position that nuclear is the only practical source of electric energy and it can provide heat for such as cement processes. In other words, the alarmists have never been serious because of their ignorant rejection of nuclear. The new generation of nuclear reactors is well worth the investment hampered only by politics. The waste problem can be solved by recycling it to provide even more energy and reduce its volume. Although that storage problem has been handled for the past 50+ years.
@davedobbschannel
@davedobbschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that we build nuclear power stations on fault-lines and tsunami hot spots to stop the hugely immense 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide in the air. We are estimated to make about three percent of that very large 0.04 percent of carbon dioxide that Earth's eco system is utterly dependant. The rest is spewing from volcanoes and the fault-lines they sit on. We ignore the monster storms that are generated by these massive volcanoes spewing these particles that the moisture condenses on and creates the super storms. And now we see long duration Volcanoes like La Palma breaking all the rules of any volcanoes we have seen going off in our history and we wonder why we see elevated levels of carbon dioxide? Unknown to most, Chernobyl went bang on the day of a massive Earthquake as did Fukushima. Now we see cancer rates rise amid endless altering of the safe amount of parts per million of radioactive particles permitted to accommodate the massive leaks from just 4 reactor meltdowns we know of over 35 years. Possibly about one percent catastrophic failure overall perhaps. Now we watch our loved ones die slowly of cancers. Not in pain as we have taken Afghanistan's opium to solve that problem. But they can die of our 'Green' choices and all their money can be drained off before their departure by medical and pharmaceutical corporations that can extend their early departure but still at great cost beyond just the hard cash. Perfect profiteering in what we have all perceived to be 'right wing' scenario but it's sold to us as a 'left wing' environmental agenda. I mean, come one: there is no right or left wing. There is just vulnerable human beings getting swayed by a political bullshit agenda that uses 'woke' bullshit to drive their profiteering business ideas and then buy legislation from politicians that push ruthless profiteering green agendas on us...by LAW. But Hay!! Good news, Bill Gates says he can get us to carbon zero with vaccinations. And the environmentalists all believe it. Doesn't it look like British Columbia is crying out for lots more nuclear power stations to be built on these flood plains. To SAVE THE WORLD...yeah!! Apparently we're going to build 16 new power stations to save Britain here in the UK! YEAH! It like the power station built near me at Hinkley Point in the UK. Literally built on the main tsunami hot spot of Western Europe. The last time the tsunami occurred was when La Palma last majorly erupted and the fault line that it sits on that runs out to the Mid Atlantic Rift that.likely caused the tsunami that dwarfed the Fukushima tsunami. But that the invisible wall of belief we hide behind so we can pretend we can't comprehend that. A good environmentalist knows he or she is good because of his or her beliefs. They are no different to Christians. They have taken Christ off the cross and stuck the Earth on it instead and now she's dying because of your sins. Let's face it, it's a lot easier to believe than you or me killing Jesus. All right I did it...I'll lay down my life in servitude. And if we believe our servitude makes us good to this nuclear fission obsessed carbon dioxide hating god then just like Christianity, we're good only by belief but totally toxic in reality which basically means heinous and utterly evil... Ring any bells? Until we see through our duality and realise we are merely being invaded by beings that run a system called 'belief' to control Humanity which is nothing more than an invasive entity that has its claws locked on to only one thing: you body and mind. Welcome to the invasion of the body snatchers...the believers. All the answers you are looking for are beyond belief now and if you can't cross that line then your time is all but done here on this plane. Because our beliefs are killing our world it has to let you go. We give it no choice. Time to take your shot. It's ok. You ready for your booster yet? The believers will be-lieving shortly. Go in hate, doubt and belief. Or stay in love. The problem we face is about to get solved once and for all. The solution to it all stares you in the face but you can't believe what you see. Some times you have to be honest with yourself and ask the real question you need to ask yourself: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING? Not me. Very interesting video. Thanks very much.
@InsanitiesBrother
@InsanitiesBrother 2 жыл бұрын
Because it worked last time. And there is even more reason for them to do it now than before.
2 жыл бұрын
The French Energiewende was done in the 70s, was called the "Mesmer plan", and as you said, it worked.
@swarnendu2007
@swarnendu2007 2 жыл бұрын
Why do media show Cooling Towers to show Nuclear power? Those are Convective Cooling Towers that uses cooling through evaporation to cool water used in Coal thermal plants, Steel plants and Nuclear plants.
@rolletroll2338
@rolletroll2338 2 жыл бұрын
For EDF, the main problem is not the cost of the technical problems faced by the EPR and PWR, it is mainly a stupid law that was voted in 2010 that forces EDF to promote its own concurrents by selling them 100 TWh of sweet nuclear energy for a bargain: the ARENH. This led to the a massive loss of clients for EDF in profit of their artificially cheaper concurrents. The ideology behind that is that monopolies , even natural, technical, state owned ones, are inherently bad. So today we are sabotaging our own state owned champion to please the German, hem the European Union.
@danialdirty5656
@danialdirty5656 Жыл бұрын
France made the right choice on nuclear energy. Sure it has its issues as well. But the numbers don't lie. Thanks to nuclear energy, France has A very low carbon emissions thanks to nuclear, so not only do the people benefit, but so does the environment.
@Daniel-fl5oq
@Daniel-fl5oq Жыл бұрын
Then after you posted this vedio, German is lack of gas by Russia. What a dramatic reality 😝
@yankikon125
@yankikon125 2 жыл бұрын
and you had to play that accordion music while he spoke :D
@prodeous
@prodeous 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there plans for "home scale" reactors in the kw range? I'd install one in my house or close to
@typhon36
@typhon36 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear energy is the only sensible alternative to replace base load.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 2 жыл бұрын
INDEED
@edsr164
@edsr164 2 жыл бұрын
Because nuclear eletric power is by far the most ecological.
@Gabriel_lfm
@Gabriel_lfm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video you got a new sub their, simple detail btw but the French minister of economy’s name is Bruno le maire (not le marie)
@farticlesofconflatulation
@farticlesofconflatulation 2 жыл бұрын
It boggles my mind how so many people pronounce nuclear as nu-cu-lar.
@reallybigjohnson
@reallybigjohnson Жыл бұрын
I have to say that after learning more and more about France over the last several years about how they maintain their own military industrial complex instead of relying almost entirely on foreign sources, their outright rejection of "woke" culture which is currently threatening to bring down much of the Western world, my respect for them has grown to the point that they are now my fave European country after Ireland and no one can beat Ireland.
@barryr.9354
@barryr.9354 Жыл бұрын
france and rejection of woke culture? it's like the birthplace of it
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 Жыл бұрын
@@barryr.9354 Not really french culture very much encourages freedom of speech. There very keen on there rights. The main issue they have with "woke" which bit vague of a term is often tells people what to do. French generally speaking don't like being told what to do or think. But on other hand there very pro gay right and trans rights. But unlike USA being gay isn't a big deal.
@darthvader5802
@darthvader5802 2 жыл бұрын
Because France is the only country in continental europe which has believable plans about stopping carbon dioxide emissions before 2050
@gontrandjojo9747
@gontrandjojo9747 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, it's not about ecologism, but about cost and energetic independance.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 Жыл бұрын
@@gontrandjojo9747 disagree french very green focused people. It is part sustainable. But they're population is generally very pro green Vs most western countries.
@gontrandjojo9747
@gontrandjojo9747 Жыл бұрын
@@murphy7801 France betting on nuclear energy is not for ecologist reasons, that's my point.
@markhellemans3440
@markhellemans3440 2 жыл бұрын
It is misleading to state that the shutdown and safe demolition of the French reactors would cost 85 billion, but renovating them only 50 billion. The old ones still need to be decommissioned at the end, so the demolition costs remain but are (typically) moved to the future.
@donmeisner4438
@donmeisner4438 2 жыл бұрын
Energy self sufficient should be on top of the EU agenda. Not oil from the middleeast or gas from Russia
@EliasBac
@EliasBac 2 жыл бұрын
France has been building and operating its nuclear plants for decades. It has very little natural disasters like earthquakes, etc. And they can afford the maintenance. It doesn’t have to change what it is already doing. Because there is no better solution for now.
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