This video explains why Mazda 3 is more expensive than its competitors like the Honda Civic and Toyota Altis. #Mazda 3 is driver centric and is well- engineered that is why it is more expensive.
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@vanillacream57502 жыл бұрын
Ang sarap makinig sa Channel na to sobrang relaxing lalo na pag patulog ka na parang nagkkwento yung tatay mo sayo about sa kotse and feel mo talaga kinakausap ka tapos hindi pa commercial yung pag ka review galing puso and experience talaga ang galing
@krisjulio44122 жыл бұрын
Very nice review sir. Mazda cars are really fun to drive 1000%. I have an mx-5 2022 Soft top and I always enjoy driving it, city and highways. More power to your channel !
@geraldcagape45452 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir Levi for a very comprehensive and well research based discussion on Mazda 3 ,im learning a lot from you .God bless you sir
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@roybello8944 Жыл бұрын
never seen a most in depth video as this. thanks
@jaredwaje16 Жыл бұрын
The way you narrate exudes your love for this car without being boastful. ❤
@johnnytampocao76712 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your explanation why Mazda can't be compared in price and performance from the mainstream brand kahit pareho sila Japanese brand. I'm an avid fan of most North American car journalist kaya naiintindihan ko lahat at naniniwala ako sa lahat ng paliwanag nyo. Isa pang reason kung bakit special car ang Mazda ay dahil sa reliability ng engine, halos nagpapalitan sila ng Lexus at Toyota sa number 1 spot for the last three years ayon sa mga famous American car magazine na ang panel ng mga hurado na nag e evaluate every year ay mga expert car enthusiasts and journalist. Kahit maliit na company ang Mazda pero ang budget ng R&D nila ay malaki kaya maganda ang resulta ng bawat model na inilalabas nila. Yung bagong labas nilang CX-50 sa US at CX-60 sa Europe ay maganda ang mga feedback ng mga car reviewers from Europe and the US.
@franka67902 жыл бұрын
Mazda makes great cars the last time I held my hand behind a mazda car was way back when I owned a 1994 Astina.
@jrom911072 жыл бұрын
Napaka linaw at detalyado ng review niyo sir. Madami ako naunawaan tungkol sa mazda. Thumbs up. More power sa channel niyo. Matic subscribe ako. 👌
@T.Alpha30808 ай бұрын
Well explained po Sir Levi, I've been watching your vlog since young drive test niyo ng Mazda 3 up until now, sana po mag labas pa kayo ng mga new videos and insights about M3. Keep it up!
@paulabesamis15982 жыл бұрын
The most detailed car review i ever watched on youtube ,, i'm just a viewer 16mins ago , now i'm subscribed. Lamig sa tenga
@braderlouie10812 жыл бұрын
Nice and informative content, appreciate your positive insights based on scientific facts, and i agree with you Mazda has done everything to give the consumers the best value for their money 👍
@Red-ft9sb2 жыл бұрын
Will have mine next week! Can’t wait… So inspiring!
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
You will love it and will keep on looking back at it
@harremmayuela98722 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review sir... If given a chance.. Mazda 3 talaga kukunin ko... Proud and satisfied mazda 3 Gen 1owner here... Kahit old model, d nabibitin sa porma kahit itabi mo sa sa mga Vios new models... Iba talaga aura... 😅👍
@barianelozano26142 жыл бұрын
M3bk owner here. Same tayo dyan hahaha! M3 padin ang next car ko. Mazda forver 😁
@llyanjimenez49852 жыл бұрын
Grabe I didn’t know the thought and attention to detail that this car has to offer. U explained it precisely, iba ka talaga sir levi from other car reviewers yung laman and thought that you put into your videos is truly amazing.
@teejaysalgado9819 Жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s just built differently overall. Late 2020, when I saw the geely coolray, naimpress ako sa interior grabe ang ganda! Pero nung dumasn ako sa mazda, nakita koyung all new m3, namangha ako.. mas maganda quality ng mazda interior. Kaya pala mura lng coolray. Di gaano masyado maganda quality. Grabe ang ganda talaga ng mazda. Miski nga honda civic, ang layo sa m3.
@teejaysalgado9819 Жыл бұрын
Esp. when you see this car in person. When I checked out the Coolray after the lockdown, I was blown away with how cheap it is but with all those features. Made me think that Japanese cars were inferior. But when I saw the all new Mazda 3... I was wrong. The quality is waaaayyyyy better. Thus explains the price. You can just really tell the difference. Interior pa lang yan ha. Also build quality is just... different. Then the drive. Wow!
@samdg13222 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir for another helpful and must know infos. 👍
@mvzzzzzy2 жыл бұрын
Benta sakin lalo Mazda 3 because of your reviews sir Levi. Honest and straight to the point.
@jexhunt.3072 жыл бұрын
Also, i cant wait for the cx60. We currently have the cx5 with the 2.5 and even eith the small numbers coming out from the 2.5 this car can take you places. Especially thru the mountains
@amadoiiilumabang71172 жыл бұрын
Got Mazda as my first car and as a new driver. I like it so much.
@tonyebeo4762 жыл бұрын
Great presentation boss.👌🏻 Mazda PH should give you perks.😊 Hope you can make a review of Mazda CX-8 Signature series. Ano impression mo. Thanks in advance.😊
@bimz27102 жыл бұрын
In addition, mazda uses conventional torque converter engine (trad automatic) compared to CVT's of toyota & honda which I think is more reliable, engine-wise.
@benjidowning26092 жыл бұрын
CVT’s are definitely not more reliable than a regular automatic
@franka67902 жыл бұрын
Scooter
@almericswitzercalonge59612 жыл бұрын
That is why i get rid of my nissan rouge 2019 2.5 engine cvt trans i traded with mazda cx3 awd which has 2.0 engine a/t.uphill driving,merging in freeways you can’t go wrong zoom zoom all the way
@benjidowning26092 жыл бұрын
@@almericswitzercalonge5961 yes, Mazda automatics are great transmissions
@marcs42 жыл бұрын
yeah right. they're still conventional and not overengineered and complicated like the German premium brands. great and surprisingly reliable but not at all sophisticated or at least not here in ph. i remember watching savagegeese's review of the 3. prolly the best review for me. i hope they bring in the skyactiv x here in our local market. aasa nalang haha
@wiliamryanquiroga39002 жыл бұрын
Thumbs sa nga content mo sir. Clean review and reliable mga output mo. Subscribed!
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kennhayao56462 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews sir, na e explain mo ng maayos, by the way sir baka pwd mo ma review next yung ford raptor 4x4 2022, nakita ko kasi yung hilux conquest 4x4 2022 review mo and pinag pipiliin ko kung raptor ba or hilux, sana ma notice mo sir, maraming salamat, God bless
@ptkbsq2 жыл бұрын
I got the 2.0 fastback non-hybrid. No regrets. Worth every peso
@victorco83062 жыл бұрын
Are the headlamps/DRL in the non-hybrid also LEDs?
@ptkbsq2 жыл бұрын
@@victorco8306 the headlamp of the 2.0 non-hybrid is similar to the ones in Elite trim, yung may halogen DRL. I just had it replaced with LED bulbs so medyo kamukha na nya yung nasa vid
@makimolina99992 жыл бұрын
Very sophisticated review sir! It makes me love mazda3 much more 😊 i really want to buy this
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Highly recommended if you want a premium car with good engineering
@MrLincoln07 Жыл бұрын
great review. Well done man Cheers from NYC!!..will definitely get 1...
@ridewithlevi6418 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@markjavier81572 жыл бұрын
1st Sir. Thank you for your good videos 😊👍
@roderictan2 жыл бұрын
I've been driving a mazda for 6 years. Very reliable sya at no major breakdown. Nasa 235K na odo as of today.
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Wow cool..
@soonsuicidal2 жыл бұрын
but sir what about the parts madali ba makahanap outside casa? Pag casa kase for sure na ang laki ng gagastusin compared kung sa labas mo ipagagawa. 😭
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
@@soonsuicidal marami naman parts outside casa
@soonsuicidal2 жыл бұрын
@@ridewithlevi6418 niice. Thanks po
@acc1tester3987 ай бұрын
saan recommended shop sir to have it maintained? planning to buy 2nd hand
@ronchua3031 Жыл бұрын
Na excite ako sir, undecided pako sa kukunin ko car pero bec of your vid, MAZDA ako ❤
@grme55872 жыл бұрын
Gandang ganda talaga ako sa 3 ngayon! Really wanting one these days
@EduardoSantos-oc5io2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos, and have become a fan of the way you've set up your M3 hatchback. Question: do the Linea Corse lc818 mags come with a bolt pattern of PCD 5x114.3 (which is the M3 standard)? I have not come across such LC mags that are 19 x 8,.5 with this bolt pattern; so did you use an adapter?
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s PCD is 114.3 and I don’t use adapter. It’s actually rare because it is staggered. Most Lineas are square
@EduardoSantos-oc5io2 жыл бұрын
@@ridewithlevi6418 Thank you for your reply. You are indeed fortunate to have been able to source Linea Corse lc818 with bolt pattern PCD 5x114.3. I'm a fan of your design aesthetic.
@archieroyal54442 жыл бұрын
Staggered eh dahil sa RWD dahil doon ang power. Karamihan ng FWD square set up.
@parirala48302 жыл бұрын
Thank you for enlightening me
@nickbarnes58022 жыл бұрын
nice and good explanation very informative
@LimpEminem2 жыл бұрын
Mazda is positioning themselves as a premium brand since they sell less cars compared to their rivals.
@441meatloaf Жыл бұрын
They sell less cars because their vehicles dont sell well.... Look at sales data in previous generation of mazdas, they had no problems shifting units. Even the CX-5 was a top seller amongst their segment. Mazda these days can't sell because there are so many competitive options, Mazda couldn't compete. The premium up market strategy was a complete fail and Mazda CEO has admitted the premium marketing just didn't work. Koreans have dug into every other segment roots and offered extremely valued package with all the options without costing a lot, even a toyota cant come close to it.
@brensgelo2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Engr. for this very informative video. Actually, I also like the looks of Mazda compared to it's competitors. Especially the CX5 diesel soul red crystal. The interior is very luxurious 👍🙏
@montblanc_777 Жыл бұрын
great video and review on Mazda 3 :)
@AndrewR100012 жыл бұрын
Galing mo talaga Sir Levi Completos Recados!!!
@genetorres28202 жыл бұрын
As always, very detailed sir Levi.. however does your observation also covers the earlier Mazda 3's, like for Gen 1 and 2?
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
It does not cover Gen 1 and Gen 2
@genetorres28202 жыл бұрын
@@ridewithlevi6418 I see. I thought that the same can be said for Gen 1 compared to other brands during the same time Gen 1 was released. Sabi mo kasi that Mazda always uses their design language whenever they make cars
@alucardbrahmstone66592 жыл бұрын
Mazda is the king of sedan and hatchback. Comfort and tech topnotch halos kalevel na ng mga BMW at Benz compare to other brands.
@aldrensubijano23522 жыл бұрын
Galing mo sir levi! Kakaiba reviews nyo po! Kahit small details di nyo pinapalampas.. very informative! Galing nyo po!
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Thank you po
@superalpha86522 жыл бұрын
Does changing the wheels to 19inch affects the pick up? Does it felt slower in straight line?
@janlester2 жыл бұрын
Much like apple products, hindi lang nagbabase sa specs, kundi sa overall user experience. Meron siyang mga aspects na hindi obvious sa mga regular consumers
@manueljoramsanluis47652 жыл бұрын
boss Levs, very nice review.. Lodi 👍
@BongJrdG2 жыл бұрын
Could you give your impressions on the CX-8? I know it doesn't directly compete with the PPVs but at its price point, it is close to the top-of-the-lines of the PPVs. Could somebody eyeing on these popular PPVs even consider this 7-seater crossover? Thanks.
@albinoiiicordova48112 жыл бұрын
Sir Levi! Thank your contents very informative! 👌 Kamustahin ko lang sana yung Xfilms ceramic tint niyo as of today. Salamat and more power to your channel! 🙏
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Ok naman, walang problema ang tint, no discolorartion
@albinoiiicordova48112 жыл бұрын
Salamat @@ridewithlevi6418! Godbless sir!
@DC-gi3zi2 жыл бұрын
Very well said sir levy !
@oscieestanislao58402 жыл бұрын
Very informative..personally for I'd rather have mazda that BMW with all the problem they're having. Here in the USA you can get a used BMW for less than a used Mazda or Toyota, because if the expensive maintenance, parts and labor, while Toyota or Mazda has cheaper. That's why, alot of people buy BMW, they just keep it for 5 years or less especially wnen the warranty expired.
@koukimonzta2 жыл бұрын
BMW = Broke My Wallet
@DennisAbad6 ай бұрын
new fan boss, thanks for this vid! M3 owner as well. hirap lumipat sa ibang brand hehe
@DennisAbad6 ай бұрын
bargain nga sir. super reasonable yung price to be honest
@arthurgadz6462 жыл бұрын
My favorite Mazda exterior is this 3 hatchback.. There is nothing like it.. Napapa nganga ako pag nakita ko to sa daan.. Specially pag nka glossy coat or wrap..wow..
@UrsaWarrior952 жыл бұрын
For me, ok na yung pricing nang Mazda na slightly premium but still attainable and not super high/luxury class. Some are even saying that Mazda will become a "Japanese BMW" I hope Mazda stays in this bracket and not over inflate their models 😓
@engrtancha2 жыл бұрын
for me, the biggest sell for mazda is the use of conventional auto-transmission.. CVT is boring even with synthetic 'shifting'
@colostomybag93672 жыл бұрын
CVTs with synthetic shifting is not just boring it also puts more of a "shock" through the belt that can wear it faster than a normal cvt than changes its ratio smoothly.
@dahnteyog2 жыл бұрын
💯
@user-ve3wv7cg9o4 ай бұрын
Sir Levi, any difference po ng stock and upgraded rims and tires and fuel consumption? also if I may know brand ng rim and tire size maganda kasi tindig at sakto ang offset.
@MrSuperralph233 ай бұрын
I own a Mazda 3 Sedan Gen 1 2010 and I have it until now. 14 yrs na sya sakin. Matibay na kotse. It still drives great! Also, mas maganda pa features ng Mazda. I am planning to buy a Mazda 2 or 3 na kahit 2nd hand, Trade In ko na lang yung kotse ko.
@loupetespeaks65152 жыл бұрын
Mazda it self manufacture cars that value for your money and though its pricey compare to other japanese car brand,here in UAE i did consider getting a Mazda CX-3,and i also tried driving the Mazda 3 sedan it was fun to drive,seats hug your back,no acceleration lag, really responsive steering wheel! and the design really works well,but i ended up getting mitsubishi,again budget wise..anyways Mazda its a great car ,Drive safe everyone!
@yohannesavannahmiro39262 жыл бұрын
Hi engr. E review mo rin cx5 at Cx9. :)
@jocalibusohump2 жыл бұрын
Nice sir .new subscriber from abra 😁.mazda is gud machine.I think mazda close to German cars.
@dornierserctajon80942 жыл бұрын
if you look at mazda 3s cabin parang di high tech.. kaunti lang ang buttons and maliit lang ang screen.. pero ang totoo, isa ito sa pinaka hightech together with the all new honda civic sa segment nila.. napakaganda lang talaga nag pagka layout nila ng mga buttons niya kaya di mo pansin..
@karagdagangimpormasyon47362 жыл бұрын
Ford, Mazda, at Subaru mga brands na may pagka-luxury pgdating sa styling, tech. features, at comfort na pwedeng panlaban sa BMW & Mercedes.
@keithgeraldnavarro91132 жыл бұрын
Nagbago ung pananaw ko nung npakinggan ko ng maigi ung vlog mo sir ☺️ kaya pala hindi nkkipagsabayan si mazda sa mga bagong model ng mga ssakyan kse my ibang way pala sila pra maappreciate sila.
@amazingr9992 жыл бұрын
Same. Iba din pala dating unlike sa civic iba din dating. Sila parang mga Mercedes ang class segment
@markcervantes152 жыл бұрын
Ganda boss bagay na bagay yung rims..
@donrobert35812 жыл бұрын
I may have missed this out. Pero how's the after sales maintenance and parts of mazda? I'm planning to get cx5 (pre-owned) really soon.
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Ok naman aftersales service nila, by appointment and organized. I don’t know about the parts yet kasi libre pa maintenance ko for 3 years
@masterb568314 күн бұрын
Never had a problem with after sales and spare parts. Great customer service too.
@eg7thSign2 жыл бұрын
Sir Levi thanks for this video. If i may ask, anong variant po yung M3 niyo?
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Its the elite variant
@SoJooCars2 жыл бұрын
I really want to have coffee with you sir Levi 😍
@erikyan35372 жыл бұрын
nice
@charlesa1234 Жыл бұрын
Sir Levi SoJoo wants to have coffee with you
@cristoffeeborja36304 ай бұрын
Sir levi is ut true ang mazda daw ay sirain? Cx 5 and others? I hope mapansin. Thanks
@MariaSalleh2 жыл бұрын
I have a honda civic 2022 and toyota altis 2021 ... and my sister just bought a mazda 3 2022 ... sporty mazda..awesome. but comfortable 3 of out 5 if you want to compare with honda and toyota
@TheCC112 жыл бұрын
grabe ganda ng paint ng mazda. buhay na buhay
@gyozamoney59092 жыл бұрын
Dream car ko ang Mazda. Sana magkaroon in the future.
@charlesa1234 Жыл бұрын
Anong model ang pangarap mo sir?
@krispypata162 жыл бұрын
sir please review the new cx9🙂
@nawfqnts96607 ай бұрын
Yung mazda 3 mo na stock wheels nasa iyo pa? Anong brand ng tires yung naka kabit nung nabili mo siya ng BRANDNEW?
@kirinoxkyousuke2 жыл бұрын
what's that rims brand?
@almericswitzercalonge59612 жыл бұрын
Why I choose mazda? it is a driver centric vehicle,exterior and interior designs are luxurious and not easy to get old,it is a great car,here in Canada it is a head turner kind, mazda 3 hatchback and mazda cx3… why get bmw audi or mercedes benz if mazda offers better drive,fuel economy and cheaper mentainance, compared to other japanese car brands it is a bit expensive but way more better from the design,engine and transmission,loved our mazda cx3’s 😁🤗
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Mazda 3 hatchback won as the best car design last year
@paoo33532 жыл бұрын
Factor rin siguro yung Yojin5 program nila. Come to think of it na imposibleng free 5 yrs pms yung program na yun pero if ako naman tatanungin eh ok lang naman para secured yung sasakyan ko na casa maintained for 5 years.
@arthurgadz6462 жыл бұрын
This brand will eventually be a cheaper alternative to the German luxury brands and a fierce competitor to Lexus and Acura.. Have you seen the CX 60.. Stunning..
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Yes, grabe ang ganda ng Cx60
@441meatloaf Жыл бұрын
Nope it will never be an alternative to germans. Vehicle handling compared to an audi is not even close. Germans have essentially mastered how to make a luxury vehicle and the characteristic of one, mazda doesn't come close. Mazda dont even come close to how Lexus even drives, so it has no chance of beating any germans. Even a golf drives better than a mazda.
@clavelpaolo3163 Жыл бұрын
@@441meatloaf German Cars= Endless Money Pits
@441meatloaf Жыл бұрын
@@clavelpaolo3163 not really. Most cars are money pits when no one does maintenance. German cars are the same as long as you keep up with regular maintenance there will be minimal problems.
@raven21x5796 ай бұрын
ganda review boss.. interesting mazda!
@brotherstv1449 ай бұрын
Hi sir levi i hope na review nio yung mazda 2
@chriscrivera72202 жыл бұрын
Sir okay lang ba kumuha 2nd hand Mazda 3 ? Sana blog din kung Ano Ano Dapat tingnan sa mazda 2nd hand car Baka tinanggal na iba gamit pano kaya yun boss. More power Boss
@captaindon76862 жыл бұрын
Cx5 awd 2.5 2016 till now d sakit a ulo tama content mu sir iba tlga mazda
@St3PdOwN2UrL3v3L2 жыл бұрын
Question. Is it the same case for the older models?
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Not sure though but Mazda has evolved to be a premium brand in the last 5 years
@HansLotap2 жыл бұрын
Ganda kulay ng mga caliper
@emert74032 жыл бұрын
My dreamcar Mazda 3 hatch
@lexusianable2 жыл бұрын
Mazda cars always have a DNA of sporty handling and excellent chassis engr. However mazda is moving to become luxury centric that's why mazda 3 BP has slow steering response vs the BN.
@jednifsenarlo47862 ай бұрын
How bout maintenance cost? Issues? Spareparts availability outside CASA?
@ridewithlevi64182 ай бұрын
Marami parts outside casa, no issues.. hindi ko alam maintenance cost kasi free la ako for 3 years
@josepheyes45972 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how premium the CX-9 is. Kayang tumapat sa German brands.
@charlesa1234 Жыл бұрын
Yup both CX-9 and CX-8
@cruzito4life5712 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Mazda3 gt can keep up with the civic 1.5T
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
I think so
@kixnimrod64072 жыл бұрын
got mine, last feb lang after 6mos of waiting.. muntik na mpa civic rs...
@charlesa1234 Жыл бұрын
Anong year and model ng nakuha mo sir? And ano color?
@dbmscreen2 жыл бұрын
Sana black headliner na lang lahat ng sasakyan or sana may option
@lonzoandloise3 ай бұрын
Yung boses nyu po is very relaxing parang lolo ko po kayo.
@jexhunt.3072 жыл бұрын
Its because mazdas are a masterpiece. It is quality and its reliable. Legendary
@kraysanagustin2 жыл бұрын
Sir Levi bakit bose na po speakers mo? after market po ba or optional? thx.
@blackmambaaa412 ай бұрын
Standard mazda yang bose
@badoodiesatnubac82332 жыл бұрын
Hi sir. Ask k lng po if hindi po ba na void warranty nila nung pinalitan po yungags amd wheels po nila. Salamat po. Dun po sa montero annd other cars niyo po
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Hindi naman po
@archieroyal54442 жыл бұрын
Nasa efficiency ng maufacturing process ang presyo kaya mura ang Toyota kasi sila ang benchmark. Di dahil sa design. Reliable pa.
@bji.s.44392 жыл бұрын
This car reflects my personality tbh.
@alienlodejavu9504 Жыл бұрын
beautiful car, i like the look but theres one thing i dont like ~the price
@recyap2 жыл бұрын
Bakit yung dalawang nabili kong mazda yung manibela may kayok kapag nagbobodyroll? Naexperience niyo ba yun?
@jexhunt.3072 жыл бұрын
The cx5 priced at 1.9 m is valued at 1.7 in other countries. TAX……..with the price of 1.9 we could’ve gotten the turbo
@gautumb2 жыл бұрын
Where I live the Civic is much more expensive that the Mazda 3. Both have 1.5L engines. And the Civic is made in Thailand, the 3 in Japan.
@charlesa1234 Жыл бұрын
Then it's a no brainer
@radiobreakdown2 жыл бұрын
With the release of Unreal Engine 5's Lumen, I wonder if Mazda will still stick to clay modeling?
@destroyerarmor28462 жыл бұрын
Mazda is Japanese BMW without German expensive maintaining problems and frequent repairs
@acc1tester3987 ай бұрын
sir madami bang mazda specialist outside casa?
@jimmoriarty69642 жыл бұрын
3:12 complex design hindi nagagawa sa computer? Nag-research ka ba nito bro?
@ranzhao89122 жыл бұрын
sir what if ur reaction regarding sa pag phase out ng elite models and ung sport na ung entry for mazda 3?
@ridewithlevi64182 жыл бұрын
Well sana hindi nila inalis yung elite variant para may choices. Swerte nung nakakuha ng prenium at speed variant dati, completo sa features yun. better than the variants today